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Deadlock On A Business Deal

HELP I'm in a deadlock on a business deal. I already prayed for protection from error (of my making) in this. Question, should I pray that the Lord pushed the deal in my favor? I am dealing with a man from Pakistan and while I have not witnessed to him yet I certainly will. What is your decision?

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 ---mima on 2/16/10
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You have not really given enough information for me to give you a detailed answer. Based on what you state, I would simply see if I can just forget the deal. The rule of "thumb" I apply to business is if in doubt of any kind is just forget it. That seems to work for me.
---wivv on 3/21/10

Atheist to answer you I must ask you what does the word "Father" mean? Now I realize that you will not understand this answer/question because of the other things you don't understand. This goes back to what I told you in my other post. (Your problem is you have reserved too much of your heart for yourself.)
If you find the answer to "Father" check out El Elohim. Then you will have you answer.
Ugh... who created atheism?
---Elder on 2/23/10

Mima...I get it now. You got one of those emails where they need you to assist getting their money for them.
---KarenD on 2/23/10


And who 'created' 'the Creator'?
---atheist on 2/22/10

I am happy to report that the logjam has been solved verbally. Sign contracts are to be FedEx today. Again let me say thank you so much for your encouragement for your advice for your prayers. mima
---mima on 2/22/10

Steveng ... You said elsewhere that I was living in luxury, without knowing in what conditions I live. Perhaps you assumed too much. But I will not boast about my small income.

And then you claimed that you are not living in luxury. But in the context of the discussion we were engaged in ...

... your salary, and your feeding arrangements, whilst not excessive by western standards, are luxurious by the standards of the people in Darfur, and totally beyond their dreams, or even their imagination.
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/22/10

Sounds like MONEY BUSINESS to me Mima. How about praying for God's will in this?????
---KarenD on 2/21/10

Mima: Bible teaches that we should make prayers and petitions to God for everything. Thus there is no reason that you cannot pray to God to push this deal through in your favor. If David could as God for help in battle against his enemies what is the difference to pray a prayer for help in a business endeavour? We can pray about anything. If I were you, I would fast and pray about the deal and the Pakistanians salvation.
---jody on 2/20/10

If the error was of your making, be upfront with your prospect. Tell him that you made an error and like to amend it. This will SHOW him that you are honest and willing to work out a deal even if you lose money the first time around. Do this and he will respect you for your honesty and, therefore, you will have a customer for life.

Do not witness to him. A christian business person doesn't need to witness to every person he or she meets. Allow your newfounded friendship to congeal first. The bible shows many business deals without trying to convert. Do an online KJV bible search for "counsel."

Proverbs 11:14 (face-to-face)
Proverbs 1:5

Pray to God and believe in your heart the business deal went through.
---Steveng on 2/20/10

I don't see why not. Just tell God you would appreciate the deal in your favor. "Thy will be done". Be bold in your prayers....Witness only by the power of the Holy Spirit.
---catherine on 2/19/10

Atheist, I found the tooth fairy and S/C to be mom and dad. Your example is invalid.
There is life outside of earth. If you knew God you would find this out.
Life in other places is not the debate. I hate to see someone who exercises as much faith as you do miss the Savior because of misguided placement.
Creation without a creator, now, that takes some faith. Like a chicken fighting a train, sincere but sincerely wrong. The problem is everyone will know there is a God/Savior who loved them and wanted fellowship with them. Because someone chooses to reject this doesnt change the fact.
God said, You will find me when you search for me with all your heart. Your problem is you have reserved too much of your heart for yourself.
---Elder on 2/18/10


I haven't and can't look everywhere in the universe for 'god'. Similarly, you haven't looked everywhere in the universe for the tooth fairy or Santa Claus.

BTW since the universe is so large I can't imagine why a 'god' capable of making it in six days would bother doing it for just humans on this planet. Or are those other stars and galaxies just light hanging above the firmament?
---atheist on 2/18/10

Atheist, do you trust every used car salesperson or every lawyer? Have you ever bought "the best" vacuum from a door to door salesperson? Does your lack of trust in God transfer into trust for every person that presents a sales pitch to you? If you ask someone if they lie what answer can they give you that you could believe?
Remember the phrase, "In God we Trust all others pay cash."
Can someone really be an atheist if they have not searched everything and every place in the universe to see if He is there? If they have not would they be a liar by saying they are an atheist?
---Elder on 2/18/10

Atheist No I don't personally see people of other religions as evil. It isn't them versus us and no its not part of my religion,but the Bible has guide lines for Christian living and one of those guidelines warns Christians not to marry or be unequaly yoked with unbelievers(don't believe in Christ). Those verses say, what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever. What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said,I will live with them and I will walk among them and I will be their God,and they will be my people. Therefore come out from among them and be separate. Simply,no entwined close relationships with unbelievers.
---Darlene_1 on 2/17/10

\\Is your conclusion really that because a man is from Pakistan and a non-Chrisitian that he is wicked?\\

There are quite a few Christians in Pakistan, who can be traced back to the days when St. Thomas went to India.

And like Christians in all majority-mahometan countries, their rights are being trampled.
---Cluny on 2/17/10


Is your conclusion really that because a man is from Pakistan and a non-Chrisitian that he is wicked?

Is such a 'them vs. us' division an important part of your Christian religion?

Mima is at least reaching out and treating this person with some basic respect.
---atheist on 2/17/10

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Mima,if that happened to me after I had prayed for God's protection,I would praise the Lord he heard my prayer and is protecting me from making a mistake. Haven't you even thought that it is God blocking your way from doing something which will hurt you? You shouldn't ask God to protect you and then when he stalls the process try to pray away what he may be using as your protection. Besides all that,going into a business with a nonChristian may be like being unequally yoked in a marriage,maybe you shouldn't do it. 2 Corinthians 6:14-16 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common. Read the rest from the bible,not room here.
---Darlene_1 on 2/17/10


I am sure that there several million Jews who prayed that their end would not be in an extermination camp. Do you seriously think that by praying, 'god' is going to intervene on your behalf and such a small time issue?
---atheist on 2/17/10

Well, I would say God would have a deal be in favor of everyone, like how Joseph was put in charge of all Egypt and he used his power to do good for everyone. If he's with you, you can spend some time with him and see if you can get to know him and share with him some. The "fleece" I go by is seeing how I see things and feel, etc., once I am satisfied I am really in God's own peace ruling in me, understanding that in this peace He will have me thinking and feeling what He pleases. But always be open for how I could be sensing wrong, about this, and keep openly trusting God to have me doing better. How worthwhile is the stuff of this business? This could effect how committed God is to making you succeed.
---Bill_bila5659 on 2/16/10

Mimi, If God hasn't moved don't you move either.
God knows what we need and desires to gives us what we want. Don't let your want supersede the will of God.
Pray a "Prayer Fleece." Pray that God will do something like make the man call by noon of Tuesday. If you don't receive your request then forget the deal.
Find out details about your deal and ask the man questions you know the answers to. If he lies to you then that should be a deal breaker also.
God Bless and go with you. Remember any deal this man makes will be for his benefit only.
---Elder on 2/16/10

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Are you sure you sure you are being quite fair in your deal? Is it balanced more in your favour?

Should we expect God to favour Christians in worldly business deals? Why should He?

Do you think your witness would be more readliy received if you get the better of him in business?

I think you'e getting worldly business mixed up with your Faith ... and we are told we can't serve God and Mammon
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/16/10

Well, you can pray for God's will to be done.

"He works all things after the counsel of His Will" (not ours).

If you are getting the feeling the deal could be shady, back out NOW.

If you have the wisdom to know it's a real deal and this man is honest, then go fot it.

God gives us wisdom to use for business decisions.

If you pray for favor, and the Lord doesn't give it to you, what then? Maybe you should have prayed BEFORE you even started the deal? Just curious.
---Donna on 2/16/10

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