Shes not an atheist if shes asking why GOD did something to her...
Shes just angry at him
---JackB on 11/28/10|
I do doubt that she was ever truly chosen by God. If she is an atheist, believe me when I say to you, God does not care about her sickness. He is going to place her in hell, soon. An atheist has a lot of nerve asking God for life let along anything else on His great, green, creative, earth. Have a good day.
---catherine on 11/28/10|
We must know the truth. God's will has been and is to heal the sick. His nature is not sickness, disease and death. His nature is health and life.
Sickness and disease did not exist until Satan showed up in the Garden of Eden. If illness and infirmities were God's will for His creation, then Adam and Eve would have been created that way. But they were not. They were created perfect and whole. God only deals with perfection. Everything He created was created perfect.
When Jesus came here to earth, He came for a purpose. First John 3:8, says, "For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil."
---Antoine on 11/27/10|
that she should read Job, it helped and restored my mom when she lacked faith at one point. and then again i do not think your friend can be an atheist, otherwise she would be angry with someone she does not believe is there. keep telling her that God is good and pray for her allot.
---Andy3996 on 4/26/10|
When God moved me back out here in the country, in my very own home after living in an apartment complex [God wanted me to learn about people, ha, ha, hum], I asked God why I can not have a FRIEND!! His reply was, "I want you all to myself". Exactly what He said. Really, I can understand it better, now, because, I wouldn't had been able to keep any friends, they would have long ago took off, because of all the tough, most choppy waters I have encountered. But, the Lord Jesus Christ has stood by me....note: However, God has made me some promises of a better life. I wish that He would hurry up, I am not getting any younger. On the otherhand, I must be careful in this.
---catherine on 4/18/10|
A desturbing response to people struggling with faith is lack of compassion, the arrogance of insinuation if they knew how to pray, God would heal.This is a fallen world. Many do not know what love of God means.Spiritual healing can happen in illness, God's strength is there for us.Jesus understood the world. He suffered because of mans evil, exposing it with grace. He rose demonstrating it is possible to live again whole with peace that defies understanding. Those that hurt, look to Christ for compassion, love personified. God will not control, we have free will, but compassion and guidance is there to 'resurrect' you in healing beyond the situation. Find loving,supportive friends as you go through trials.
---Jane on 4/18/10|
\\I feel upset that I cannot contribute as I know I could if I could work properly. It is upsetting, infuriating, and, yes, I feel angry, though I [hope] not directly at God. Blessings be with you
---peter3594 on 3/18/10\\
Peter, perhaps God has allowed this to happen to you so that you can bear the arms of unceasing prayer.
I don't doubt that you are suffering. But don't waste your sufferings--USE them!
To paraphrase C. S. Lewis, Satan is never more bloodied than when a Christian looks out over a landscape of great personal suffering, and still determines to be obedient and faithful to Christ.
---Cluny on 3/22/10|
Tell her, It is proven that God heals! God can heal! and God is perfect! But Why should he heal you when you do not believe in him? and when you blame the unblameable? Just as it is difficult for any one to receive any good at all from me when they are busy dissing me.
---Eloy on 3/20/10|
FatherBrendan: I understand your difficulties, I am in a similar situation, possibly not so bad: started with (type 1) diabetes, following problems with that, ended up with with epilepsy as well, habitually fired from one job after another, though insurance (public) covers me, I feel upset that I cannot contribute as I know I could if I could work properly. It is upsetting, infuriating, and, yes, I feel angry, though I [hope] not directly at God. Blessings be with you
---peter3594 on 3/18/10|
\\find someone that moves in the gift of healing and ask them to pray for us.\\
Donna, the gift of healing is not something someone "moves in."
It's the gift given to the sick person that heals him/her.
---Cluny on 3/18/10|
---FatherBrendan, There's a scripture in Isaiah that says, He will surely be gracious to you at the sound of your cry.
A cry is a continuous whale. Cry-Crying out continually, day and night.
Even if you're prayer is: Lord I hurt,please heal me. The root is we don't fully understand healing and we really don't know how to either pray for it for ourselves or find someone that moves in the gift of healing and ask them to pray for us. Keep crying out - the Lord showed me when a baby cries, he doesn't stop until he gets his need met.
---Donna on 3/18/10|
"It's not unusual to spend $1500 a month on medication when you have several chronic conditions. (I spend about that much, too)"
I am not a poor man, but that is more than my entire income after I have paid taxes, and accommodation costs.
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/18/10|
Your friend was not a Christian to start with if they later became an atheist.
---Alan on 3/17/10|
FatherBrendan-- Why did you pose your question about one who has "just become an atheist"? It was misleading. You are not such a doubter.
It's not unusual to spend $1500 a month on medication when you have several chronic conditions. (I spend about that much, too)
You are blessed to have insurance that covers a lot of it.
Is it the pain that gets to you? The frustration of having the essential tremor?
All the necessary tests and treatments?
This combination is enough to make you want to scream to God for relief. (you sound a bit like Job-- read the end of that book)
HE is able to supply the strength you need.
I will pray for you.
---Donna66 on 3/17/10|
Donna, I will let you in on what I was hoping could remain secret. When I was talking about my "friend," I was talking about myself.
I have fibromyalgia, diabetes, Addison's Disease, asthma, and what is called an essential tremor, where my nerves only relay impulses at 75% of "normal" speed.
I am not angry at God. Far from it, I love Him with all of my heart, soul, mind and strength. I do not feel that He has rejected me.
I know that He is working for good in my life. However, I hurt. I hurt to the point that I am using over $1500.00 per month in prescription drugs. And I thank God every day for the provision He has made for me, and that He has provided insurance that pays for most of the drugs I buy.
---FatherBrendan on 3/17/10|
Your friend is most likely angry because God allowed her to be sick. (He certainly didn't cause her sickness.) It's a common reaction to overwhelming circumstances. Don't rebuke her because of her doubts.
We trust God whether or not He gives us what we think we need, whether or not we are healed. It's what Job expressed when he said... Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him.
Remind her that though she may feel rejected God, He has not rejected her.We can be confident that He is working good for us even when all things seem to come against us. Remind her that a weaving from the bottom is never pretty, though the finished product may be exquisitely beautiful. She hasn't seen the top-side yet.
---Donna on 3/16/10|
Donna said:Because He gave us AUTHORITY to TRAMPLE upon serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy and this person isn't using his/her authority.
I have a friend who has an incurable disease. It won't kill him, it will just make the rest of his days a painful hell. He has confessed his sins, gone to the elders of the church, and they anointed him and prayed for him. He is looked upon as an example of piety in the congregation. He has faith. He has claimed his healing, fasted, prayed, confessed the victory, he has taken the authority to trample the devil. He has used all of his considerable faith and then some, and he knows that God is able. Still, there is no healing.
---FatherBrendan on 3/17/10|
My mother had cancer.
We did everything in the Christian bag of tricks: prayed, fasted, took authority over the disease/demon, cast out the disease/demon, confessed the victory, claimed the promise, etc, etc, etc.
Mother still died a lingering painful death, with the left side of her face a gaping hole.
Ultimately, God is charge, we are not, and there's something about this whole matter of divine healing He's keeping secret from all of us.
---Cluny on 3/16/10|
---Cluny on 3/15/10 That will simply elicit the question, "The why wasn't God strong enough to keep the devil from making me sick?"
Because He gave us AUTHORITY to TRAMPLE upon serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy and this person isn't using his/her authority.
God wants us to use the tools He gives to us to fight the devil. We wrestle NOT against flesh and blood, but against spirits and principalities, and spiritual wickedness in high places.
The scriptures speak for themselves to answer your question Cluny, I know you know that lol.
---Donna on 3/16/10|
\\Karin, tell her that it was the devil who made her sick. Jesus said, the thief cometh to steal, kill and destroy your life.\\
That will simply elicit the question, "The why wasn't God strong enough to keep the devil from making me sick?"
---Cluny on 3/15/10|
Karin, tell her that it was the devil who made her sick. Jesus said, the thief cometh to steal, kill and destroy your life.
In the very next verse Jesus said, but I came that they may have life and life abundantly.
Tell her Jesus said to take authority over the sickness and disease and command it to go in Jesus name, "Behold I've given you authority to trample upon serpents and scorpions and over ALL THE POWER OF THE ENEMY so that nothing shall injure you." so if she is being injured, take authority, granted healing may not come instantly, but it will come.
God raises people from the dead, so why would he go around striking your friend with an illness - the devil is succeeding if she became an athiest.
---Donna on 3/15/10|
If she doesn't believe in God, why does the blame her sickness on Him?
Why do I have diabetes and CKD (among other ailments)?
Why does a friend of mine suffer from fibromyalgia so badly that some days he can't even get out of bed to get to church or do anything else except lie there, hurt, and weep?
Nevertheless, both he and I confess gladly that God is still on the throne, and one day--maybe in this life, maybe in the world to come--these infirmities and illnesses will end.
BTW--what's the matter with your friend?
---Cluny on 3/15/10|