How To Disciple A Pastor
If you have a preacher in your church that is not living right and this you know to be true, examples showing favortism and getting a young lady pregnate in the church and you have a wife, then what are the congregation to do? Do they let the Lord handle it or ask the preacher to leave?
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---Laverne on 3/16/10
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Dont say "let the Lord handle it" when God tells you to do something.
We are instructed to judge *1. Matthew 18:15-20 concerns offenses committed against you personally, which allows the matter to be dealt with in private if they repent, but 1Timothy 5 does not. While we are not permitted to judge in an hypocritical, unjust, or false manner, or to diminish others *2, God tells us to correct a sinful brother, 2Thesalonians 3:6. The disciplining of a presumed Bishop is not a punishment, but recognizes that man is not qualified *3, and does not meeting various Biblical standards *4.
---Glenn on 3/18/10|
Please remember that 1Timothy 5:19-22 requires at least two reputable witnesses. If the charge is justifiable, Romans 16:17-18 and 1Corinthians 5:6-8, 11-13 apply.
*1 Romans 16:17-18, 1Corinthians 2:15, 5:1-13 (3), 6:4, 11:31.
*2 Matthew 7:1-5 / Luke 6:41-42, James 4:11-12.
*3 Acts 20:27-30, 1Timothy 3:1-15, Titus 1:5-16, James 3:1-18, 1Peter 5:1-3.
*4 Romans 6, 1Corinthians 6:20, Galatians 5:16-6:5, Ephesians 4:17-32, 5:3-18, Colossians 3:5-10, 22-23.
---Glenn on 3/17/10|
Who has the wife, Laverne?
The pastor or you?
And how do you know he's the father of this young lady's baby?
---Cluny on 3/16/10|
If it is a mainline heroically convectional church body there are internal procedures to handle the problem if it is reported to the next higher jurisdiction.
If your Church is an independent congregation all bets are off. This can get out of control. Every thing depends on internal church politics, who likes who and who gets support from who in internal church clicks. I does not make any difference if the allegations are true or false it all depends on the perceived power of the individual has has in the local church body making the allegations.
If you have a local clergy association and your church is a member go there for help if you don't have a lot of personal clout. There are no rules and this can turn into a brick fight.
---Friendly_Blogger on 3/16/10|
They need to get together with the board or elders of the church and seek God. He will give them wisdom on what to do. God will handle it through the people he chooses and this pastor.
---Shary on 3/16/10|
Pastors that are hired can be fired.
---michael_e on 3/16/10|
I'n *case* you are not in a really obedient church, be ready to face this fact and to just get out. But pray and test, first. "By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established." (in 2 Corinthians 13:1) See if Matthew 18:15-20 works. If the church does not obey this, notify whoever the church is accountable to, and if this does nothing, find a really obedient church and notify their leadership, then find out where God wants you.
Even if the man confesses, he may not be qualified to pastor, according to Paul's standards of 1 Timothy 3:1-10. I mean, he may never have met these qualifications. They need to rule on this, I'd say. God bless you ! ! !
---Bill_bila5659 on 3/16/10|
Elder is right. Go to the pastor, not everyone on this blog. Gossip, gossip, gossip. That's all some churches do.
---KarenD on 3/16/10|
If it were me and I was 100% sure the Pastor was living an immoral life, I'd leave the church. This may not be biblical, but that's what I would do.
He's coming back for a Bride without spot or wrinkle. That Pastor should step down if he's in immorality. Just like John Edwards should have got out of the Presidential race because what if he was elected President? Who would trust him? Can he ever be trusted again? I know John Edwards probably doesn't go to church, but he would be leading many people, an entire nation.
---Donna on 3/16/10|
First I must ask you what does the Bible say about this? Your first step has got to be Biblical. The first step is to go to him. What you think may not be reality at all.
It is like the faithful Pastor of many years who when this pretty woman came into the church made over her. After the service he went to her and hugged and kissed her. He said things to her which others couldn't hear. Someone did hear him say he'd pick her up at the motel she was at and take her to dinner. He was late coming to church that night. A "committee" was formed to correct him. It turned out that the woman was a missionary who the pastor had not seen for 6 years. She was his daughter.
Strike three for the congregation and all the busybodies.
---Elder on 3/16/10|