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Six 24 Hour Creation Days

In Genesis 1, how are we sure that the days (the six days to create the world) are of 24 hours?

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Warwick thank you for your kind apology but I really wasn't offended,so everything is fine. I just wanted to get everything straightened out. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 4/26/10

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
---MIchael on 4/26/10

Denny, had Adam remained obedient to God in Eden, he would have continued to live. (Ps.115:16)

The command not to eat of the 'fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and bad' was a guarantee to Adam that he, unlike the animals, would continue to live. Obedience meant life, disobedience meant death.

Paul said at Ro.5:19- 'For just as through the disobedience of the one man many were constituted sinners...'

So yes, Adam died spiritually when he sinned and as he no longer qualified for everlasting life as Romans 5:12 teaches, he gradually grew old and suffered physical death. He couldn't pass on 'life' to his offspring, only sin with death as its consequence. (Of course Christ has undone the sin Adam introduced- another issue)
---David8318 on 4/26/10

6 days yes, but 24 hours? God didn't create the world in 6 days he created our "environment" in 6 days. The earth was already here void and without form before there was such a thing as time.
The earth was likely created instantly as God spoke it into existence.

The Genesis narrative is for our benefit to stand in awe and recount his divine attributes. God does not need 6 days to do anything.
The issue is not time but glory, majesty and power.
---larry on 4/25/10

Jesus said He is Light at John 8:12 . He also said He is Bread at John 6:35 .

How can you understand or believe those words if you take them literally ?

If you waive a literal translation for these words, why not allow the same for words in the old testament ?
---Dan1724 on 4/26/10

Tom, how have I missrepresented you?

You wrote "why be concerned?is it not enough to know God did it?"

If "God did it is enough" why did God give a whole chapter explaining the details of His days of creation. Could have said "God did it." God did it would then suffice for any chapter of Scripture.

Jesus and the apostles referred to or quoted from Genesis ch's. 1-11, 107 times! Always as fact. Shouldn't we also?

Jesus said the events of Genesis Ch. 1 and 2 are the foundation for Christian marriage.

The events of the first chapters of Genesis are (the NT says) the cause of why Jesus came to die.

"why be concerned" I wonder what is behind this comment?
---Warwick on 4/26/10

Warwick ... I agree with both your first and last paragraphs ... and have made those points on many occasions.

We differ on the literalness of the timescale in the Genesis account.

Perhaps because of that, you have assumed that we disagree on everything and have not recognised when we agree!
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/26/10

Alan I did not know you believed God is outside of time. I always have, and have often written this.

The point is that though God is outside of time we aren't and time was created for us. And His word was written for us in terms we can understand.

You must know I have often pointed out that 2 Peter 3:8 has nothing to do with the length of the days of creation.
---Warwick on 4/25/10

John, it is blasphemy to tell God you will not believe His word. He has not informed us about the intricate details of the power by which He created. However He clearly says He created in 6 24hr days, confimed by Exodus 20:8-11.

Indeed we were not there at creation nor was anyone alive today there at the cross. That is why God gave us 'absolute truth' in His inspired word.

The events of Genesis are the historical foundation for the historical gospel. How can their "absolute truth" be dismissed? See Romans 5: 12, 14, 6:23, 1 Corinthians 15: 21, 22.

Nowhere in Scripture does anyone refer to Genesis as other than historical reality. To say 'did God really say..." (Genesis 3:1) is the 'distraction."
---Warwick on 4/25/10

Darlene, I went back and had another look at what you wrote. You are right I missunderstood what you were saying.

My apologies for any offence.
---Warwick on 4/25/10

In reality Denny Creationism is only the belief that God's word should be taken as written, unless some Biblical or grammatical reasons says otherwise.

We were not there, but perfect God who knows the end from the beginning, and cannot lie, was there. What better witness can there be. We were not at the cross either so following your reasoning how do we know what happened?

Jesus says Adam was made at the beginning of the creation (that in which we live) and the genealogies give us a time-line from Adam to Jesus af approximately 4,000yrs. Do we reject this also?

How does Genesis creation not "agree with the reality of God's natural handiwork - creation -the universe/earth?"

See Romans 1:20
---Warwick on 4/25/10

If a dollar bill says one dollar do you question it? You read a novel and even a school history book at face value. Do you question what is written? You intepret what is written as fact without grasping for other meanings. So why interpret the bible any other way? If it says six days why not just leave it at that? Why do you question it? Why do you believe there are hidden meanings in every verse? The bible is nothing more than a history book containing the past, present and future. It's simply a book about the relationship between God and his people/creation.

As for the verse "a day is like a thousand years" is just simply a simile ("like")defining God in man's language. Nothing more nothing less.
---Steveng on 4/25/10

This is a senseless argument. Who knows the ways of God? I do not. Nor can anyone else according to scripture. I cannot answer this question bc I do not know if God created everything on a 24hr basis. Bible says that to the Lord a day is as a thousand years. Who can honestly say anything about this and what does it matter? Truth is, this is a diversion as to the time that we are in. The END TIME. We should be focused upon growing in faith and serving the Lord. We should be preparing for His second coming, Not arguing re irrelevant topics.
---jody on 4/25/10

Warwick, I noticed, "Can we therefore interpret it ("what God has written") as we see fit?" Isn't that what we all often must do with things like the Biblical creation accounts, since we were not there? Young-earth creationism is certainly an "interpretation," that simply does not agree with the reality of God's natural handiwork - creation - the universe/earth.

---denny on 4/25/10

David8318, "Because of Adam's sin, Romans 5:12 'death spread to all men...', NOT animals." You mean spiritual death, right? Romans 8:21 and 22 implies death was purposely subjected onto creation by God, not caused by Adams fall - for animals and humans. "Decay" could quite literally be interpreted as physical death, because God never intended humans to live permanently limited to the physical limits of universe/earth.

---denny on 4/25/10

David8318: I take the death of animals to be necessary, as, if animals were to breed, but not die, in the end the world would overfill (unless God had designed other ways for that not to happen).

But, when you write 'thus many creatures lived and died before Adam was created, hence the fossil record.', do you take that to have happened in Genesis 1:1, or did the animals grow old and die on the same day (probably day 5/6) - that would imply the day may have been longer than 24 hours, wouldn't it?

I do not know enough to agree or disagree on that, I'm checking what you are suggesting, in case I got something wrong from what you write
---James on 4/25/10

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John, are you saying that what God has written is not historical Truth? Can we therefore interpret it as we see fit?
Answer please.
---Warwick on 4/25/10

The Bible is absolute Truth,that is not the argument. The Lord said 'Were you there when I created the Foundations of the world. Did you counsel me in creation?

It is Blasphemous to attempt to explain FOR G-d how the universe was created. He is very capable of explaining details, if he thought you needed to know them. ISN'T HE?

Darlene1 points out it's a detraction of Satan. Christianity has been contaminated by Greek Philosophy, so we dare interpret and explain in our feeble minds how the Lord created the universe. It's offensive to G-d, arrogant, absolute folly.
---John on 4/25/10

Warwick I wrote nothing about whether the things of God are true or untrue so your question was without merit and totaly out of line. In fact if you read back over my posts you will see I wrote the same view you repeated on your posts about Science and the Earths age. Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Now to the Satan part which was my focus,I'll make it simple, Warning! Warning! Satan is on the prowl trying to steal,kill,and destroy in any way he can. What better way to cause discord among the family of God than to nudge them into a dscussion which has no further valid information than what the Bible already gives.
---Darlene_1 on 4/25/10

David: The Bible still says in Ex 20:11 that you are wrong. Why is it necessary to argue with God? Do you think He'll change His mind?
---jerry6593 on 4/25/10

Cliff, 'science' or scientists are not of one mind. There are varying views within a group, and opposite views without.

Some here believe scientists all agree the earth is billions of years old. They don't, and the age of the earth cannot be proven either way, by the scientific method.
Why should all theologians agree? Some don't even trust the Bible reinterpreting Scripture through the 'glasses' of worldly philosophies. Some don't even believe Jesus physically died and rose again. Therefore they are not Christians but enemies of God.

You funny man, you wrote "there was NO written language then!" And then added "Dogmatism is unwarranted on his topic!"

Your dogmatism is ironic!
---Warwick on 4/25/10

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David, we are not obliged to accept views unsupported, in fact contradicted by Scripture.

Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God made the heavens and the earth" (there can only be one beginning). God's account of the making of the whole of creation, follows.

Considerning verse numbers are a human addition the creation narative is one flowing story with its components connected by "and," which occurs 90+ times in this chapter.

Then comes "Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array." From Genesis 1:1 to 2:1 leaves no room for any previous part creation.

Stay with God's word and dispense with nonBiblical Jehovah's Witness literature. It leads away from God.
---Warwick on 4/25/10

Cliff it constantly eludes you that this creation is God's. He needed no human assistance. Further man did not struggled to cobble the Bible together (as you promote). Rather God used men of His chosing, working under His inspiration, to bring us, and the Chinese, and the Vietnamese, the Germans and....His word. And He provided the Holy Spirit to guide those who truly seek the truth.

We are saved only by the grace of God and the faith He has given to us all. And our salvation is demonstrated and confirmed by the works we do after we are saved. You have precious little faith and no good works as your work is to endeavour to undermine God's word.

I believe no man can reach you but hopefully God can, before it is too late.

---Warwick on 4/25/10

In response to Jerry6593, Planet Earth was created before the 'six days' in which it was 'formless, waste and in darkness.' Gen.1:1,2

The 'heavens and earth' that were created during the 6 days refer to the 'heavens' made on the 2nd day where winged creatures would fly, and the 'earth' that was created was the earth made to appear above the waters on the 3rd day.

The 'six days' does not include the creation of planet earth mentioned at Gen.1:1.

The Genesis 'six days' is a historical, factual account of how God created and prepared the already existing planet for human habitation.
---David8318 on 4/25/10

There was no disease suffering or death among humans prior to Adam, obviously because Adam was the first human.

God created MAN in His 'image', not animals. Man was supposed to live forever, not animals.

Because of Adam's sin, Romans 5:12- 'death spread to all men...', NOT animals.

Animals have always and will always grow old and die. They did so before and after Adam. Animals were created before the creation of man, thus many creatures lived and died before Adam was created, hence the fossil record.
---David8318 on 4/25/10

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Warwick, The fact that scientists do not all agree ,is supposed to prove something??
How many "theologians" agree on all texts of scripture?..including creation time??
Does the fact that they don't agree prove they're wrong?
No one (including you) knows what language was spoken Gen #1. No one wrote down the conversation, there was NO written language then! Dogmatism is unwarranted on his topic!
---1st_cliff on 4/25/10

Some promote the view that 'science' has proven the earth is billions of years old. The common dating methods are all based upon decay rates of radioactive materials. There is no machine or testable process which gives ages. The dating process involves untestable assumptions and therefore cannot be proven.

Scientists are not a block with one belief nor does 'science' have one view. The debate between equally qualified scientists regarding causes of global warming clearly proves my point. One group proclaims global warming is the result of human activity, while other equally qualified scientists say there is no proof of this.

Likewise some scientists say the earth is ancient while others say, and show there is no proof of this.
---Warwick on 4/25/10

Darlene, does God say we can ignore the truth of anything in His word?

Those who claim that the days of creation are not 24hrs do so for nonBiblical reasons.

Whenever the events of Genesis 1 are mentioned elsewhere in Scripture these events are accepted as historical reality. Including by Jesus, the Creator.

The long-days promoters do so because they have accepted the nonBiblical long-ages belief. They believe the fossil record shows life and death over vast ages. A record of disease, suffering and death-before Adam. However the NT says death only entered the world because of, and after Adam's sin. This long-ages idea undermines the gospel's historical foundation. Jesus came because of what Adam did! Does that matter?
---Warwick on 4/25/10

John, are you saying that what God has written is not historical Truth? Can we therefore interpret it as we see fit, and still claim to be Christian?

Is the gospel historical reality? Did Jesus really physically die and really physically rise again, that we may actually be saved by His substitutionary death? Or is it just some spiritual exercise.

Answer please.
---Warwick on 4/25/10

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Warwick ... You agree with me! ... God is outside time

And the second part of 2 Peter 8.5.9. (which many ignore) goes further to show that.

That passage can't contribute to the debate about creeation time
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/25/10

warwick,Gods word doesn,t matter?????? NEVER SAID THAT. What iam saying is in direct conjunction with what darlene 1 is saying.
---tom2 on 4/25/10

David8318: "The Heavens and the Earth (Gen.1:1) were created before the 'six days' of creation mentioned at Exodus 20:8-11 and the 'day' of creation at Gen.2:4."

God says you are wrong!

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth

The heaven and the earth are INCLUDED in the six-day creation period. Any other interpretation does violence to the Word of God.

I could take your word for it, or I could believe what God wrote on the subject. I think I'll go with God. After all, He was there and you weren't.
---jerry6593 on 4/25/10

Darlene1 you're absolutely right!
Your post saids it all!
---John on 4/24/10

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Alan the only way to understand Scripture is to read it in context. From the word, to the sentence, to the verse, the chapter, the book, to the whole book.

See 2 Peter 3:8,9 "...With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

He is not saying a day is a thousand years or a thousand years is a day, to God, but that God is outside of time. Therefore " ...not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."

Because He is not locked in time as we.

Peter could use 'day', and 'thousand years' because his readers already knew what these words meant.
---Warwick on 4/24/10

Alan UK Your opinion is very good,that its stated like that to show God is outside time. That makes more sense than trying to make it fit Science's view. What it really comes to,maybe without people realizing it,is trying to reconcile what the Bible says about the Earth and its age with what Science has said about Earth being so old. It can't be done. Again this very telling verse,Bible Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand the worlds were framed by the Word of God,so things which are seen,are not made of things which do appear. That explains it all. How true this is, 1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of the world is foolishness with God. For it is written ,he takes the wise in their own craftiness. God alone knows the age of this Earth.
---Darlene_1 on 4/24/10

'A thousand years is a day to the Lord'I onder how literally this should be taken?

Did they even have the term, a million, in biblical times? Ot a trillion?

I think it just means that God is outside time ... totally.

If that is the case, it could have teken God 6 of His days, but they could be zillions of ours.

Except of course as Warwick point out, Jesus spoke of the world being made in 6 days. But was He being literal or was He talking in terms the people of the age would undersatnd?
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/24/10

I don't think God's time is like our time,A thousand years is a day to the Lord.I forget exactly where it is but it is in scripture.
---shirley on 4/24/10

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I wonder why does it matter to anyone how long the days of creation were. I've been guilty of this myself,shame on me. It's over,has no bearing on our salvation,and is very suspicious to me because it sounds more like a tool of Satan to distract Christians minds away from Jesus onto topics which are fruitless. We as Christians are to win souls not plant confussion over something so unimportant in the big scheme of life as a Christian. Job 15:2,3 Should a wise man utter vain knowledge,and fill his belly with the East wind. Should he reason with unprofitable talk? or with speeches wherewith he can do no good? 1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God.- the Lord knows the thoughts of the wise that they are vain.
---Darlene_1 on 4/24/10

I also believe that much of this speculation (which is fruitless) derives from the Greek influence on Christianity. The Hebrews never question G-d. They had no science per-se.

Today we are Platolists and question everything using the Greek platform of science/logic. This, I think is not right and leads to endless attempts to place the Creater of the Universe in a box. Something the Hebrews dare not do.

All of this stems from the Greeks and their endless philosophies. We cannot question the unanswerable(i.e. Creation, Predestination, Trinity, When/how we are Saved etc).

I just don't think G-d wants us to engage in this speculation, but simply accept it, as Mary did when she heard the News from Gabriel.
---John on 4/24/10

Gordon, No matter how you slice it ,evening and morning do not make a!
Why did God cut the day in 2 parts?
Evening to evening makes a!
Sun rise to sun rise--sun set to sun set, make 24hr.days!
Evening and morning were metaphorical time periods!
If you're going to mention 2 parts, why not mention all 4?? Night, day,evening and morning???
If you can't understand God's terminology ,You best leave it alone!
Is midnight evening or morning??
When does morning end and evening begin??
---1st_cliff on 4/24/10

The Heavens and the Earth (Gen.1:1) were created before the 'six days' of creation mentioned at Exodus 20:8-11 and the 'day' of creation at Gen.2:4.

Numbers 7:11-48 do not refer to God's time measurement but that of man's. Everyone agrees that God is outside of human time measurement, so why limit God's time frame with man's at Numbers 7?

Again, the writer of both the Genesis account and Numbers 7 - Moses - wrote later about creation at Psalm 90:4 showing he knew the difference between God's measurement of time and man's, and knew they are not the same.

The Bible does not teach the 'six days' of creation were 24hrs.

The fact that the 7th day is still ongoing proves that the preceding 'six days' were not 24hr periods.
---David8318 on 4/24/10

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Thank you - everyone!

I posted this because I feel tempted to doubt the 24 hours.

So I wrote the blog to get some other opinions, as my mind, which demands reasons to reject a temptation, can be given some reason.

I guess I am also 'of little faith'

Thank you all, again!
---peter3594 on 4/24/10

Because GENESIS Chapter 1, Verses 5,8,13,19,23 and 31 all indicate, according to their specified day, that "...the evening and the morning were the first day,...the evening and the morning were the second day,...were the third day, etc., etc., 'til the sixth day. Then after which, YAH (GOD) rested on the Seventh Day, which HE sanctified as a Holy Day of Rest. The main point being, that we know that the "evening and the morning" are what makes up an individual 24-hour period of time. It's hard for us finite, created human beings to imagine that GOD could create all that HE did within 72 hours, but, as the Scriptures say, "...with GOD, all things are possible."
---Gordon on 4/24/10

Warwick,Right from the get-go you make it look like God set the in motion but when he told Adam he would till the soil,nothing about working 6 and resting. In fact this never came about for centuries,instituting the 6 day rest seventh some 1500 years after creation!
This weekly law mearly showed in miniature the 6 periods of time of creation (which He stated at the time)
To work 6,000 years and rest a thousand would be ridiculous! To God there's no difference as you say He's outside of time.
Why do you limit Him to a
---1st_cliff on 4/24/10

John I agree that God is above science in that He is absolute Truth-the God who knows the end from the beginning. Conversely science is a useful tool of falible sinful humans, who weren't there at the beginning and obviously don't know the ending.

When God speaks upon scientific matters His word is correct and does not need to change. Conversely scientific text books are constantly, and necessarily reviewed, as new evidence contradicts earlier beliefs.

Science has given us wonderful technical advances but is as limited as God is unlimited.
---Warwick on 4/24/10

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Tom, not being God I cannot read your motives. However over the years I have spoken with countless people who have expressed views similar to yours. I have asked-if it doesn't matter, then why not accept what the OT and NT say about the days of creation? When pushed most of them refused to do so, because they had ulterior motives. Some could not do so because God's word was not their authority. They were in fact reinterpreting God's word through the opinions of falible sinful men. You will search Scripture in vain to find one verse saying we should trust human opinion. All verses say the opposite.

So what is your reason for saying God's word doesn't matter?
---Warwick on 4/24/10

Thank you, Warwick- your list of the possible meanings is a great help! I posted this mostly because I was unsure whether it HAD to be 24 hours... I personally beleive it WAS, but some extra exidence is always welcome!

Thanks again

John: What you say about God not being logical has meaning. I suspect that God has reasons for doing everything (mostly because God is good, and does what IS good), and this COULD by some be called logic - but I prefer not to use that word because we use logic for something we understand to be logical

It is just that often we have absolutely no way to understand God's reasons, and so we question God's reasons (or logic)

As for science, I agree totally.
---peter3594 on 4/24/10

God wrote for us, with His own finger:

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

If indeed creation (including the earth itself) spanned anything other than six of our literal 24 hour days, then the whole purpose of the Commandment (to count the days and keep the day God made holy) is nullified, and God's purpose in writing it would become intentional deception! Why is it that any Christian would go to such lengths to uplift the mere speculations of men above the clear, straightforward handwriting of God?
---jerry6593 on 4/24/10

--Matthew Fontaine Maury (January 14, 1806 February 1, 1873)...devoted his time to the study of naval meteorology, navigation, charting the winds and currents, seeking the "Paths of the Seas" mentioned in Psalm 8 in the Bible.
--Johannes Kepler (December 27, 1571 November 15, 1630) reasoned that because the universe was designed by an intelligent Creator, it should function according to some logical pattern.
--Isaac Newton is well known as one of the greatest scientists who ever lived. Less well known is his deep belief in God and his conviction that scientific investigation leads to a greater knowledge of God the Creator of the universe.
The Bible leads us to the logic and science built into the created universe.
---MIchael on 4/24/10

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Donna66 and Rod4him are correct in their assertion that the Bible is NOT a Science book.

This question and this approach to Biblical "Logic" started in the Late 19th century mainly by John Darby (Father of the Pre-Trib heresy). The church needed to address Darwin and the new "Rise of Reasoning"(i.e. Atheism).

So they started to use the Bible as a scientific text book in what was then called Biblical Science. Now called Creation Science.

God is NOT logical or science. In fact He is quite the opposite. It is heretical to attempt to use G-d as a tool for science. He is above science and logic. Generally a tool used by Satan to lure Eve and thus the fall of man.
Fundamentals attempt to put God in a box.
---John on 4/23/10

Peter Hebrew for day (yom) is used the same as 'day' in English.

It means,
1) Time-without specific limits e.g. Genesis 2:4, Psalm 102:3
2) Daylight-sunrise to sunset Genesis 1:14
3) 24 hours Genesis 1:5, when accompanied by a number.

Read Numbers 7: 11-48 where the terms the "The first day, the second day...the 7th day are used."

Read Genesis 1:5-2:2 where the days are described with the exact same wording. Can the days of numbers be 24hr days and the days of Genesis (described identically) not be 24hr days? Of course not, all are 24hr days, and this demonstrates those who oppose the Genesis days being 24hrs do not have a Biblical basis for their claim.

So where does their belief come from?
---Warwick on 4/23/10

H3117 Yom / day. Unless it is modified by another word, it means either first light to twilight, or one sunset to the next (24 hours). As elsewhere in the Bible, day used with an ordinal number (first through sixth), and the term evening and morning means a common day, Exodus 20:11, 31:12-17. Genesis 1:4-5 concerns the earths rotation, and the use of day with night, as elsewhere, means a regular day. Genesis 1 is a literal narrative, and Christians believe that God presented an accurate account of the event to Moses. Why do people disagree with this? John 8:43-45, 1Corinthians 2:12-14, 1Timothy 4:1-2, Titus 1:14-16, James 3:14-15, Jude 1:18-19, Revelations 21:8.
---Glenn on 4/23/10

warwick,my point is why be concerned?is it not enough to know God did it?why ponder,debate,and in many cases argue over Gods word,when ultimately faith that God is,the he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him,is enough for this life,enough to be concerned about,the are you deligently seeking him part of life.Which by the way is the main objective,not deligently trying to understand God with these never ending,seemingly endless varieties of issues,and even more opinions than their are stars in the sky.this is not discernment,life is loving God,and everyone else,not wading thru Gods word as though it has millions of prospective meanings.
---tom2 on 4/23/10

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Thanks, you all, for your comments. THe reason why I posted that particular question is that I have seen, in other blogs about creation, some disagreements about it.

As a result, I wanted the opinions of others.

Most Christians I know feel that it is 24 hours, while some others are uncertain [I have yet to meet anyone who beleives they are NOT 24 hours].

I had seen somewhere that the word for day [something like yom, if I recall corectly] has sometimes been used for periods of time that were not necessarily 24 hours
---peter3594 on 4/23/10

\\Peter, Donna wrote "We are told a thousand years is as one day to the Lord."

In reality 2 Peter 3:8 says "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."\\

Don't forget Psalm 90, which says, "A thousand years in Your sight are as yesterday which is past, or a watch in the night."

Between David and St. Peter, I think it's safe to say that God doesn't reckon time as we doi.
---Cluny on 4/23/10

The Bible says nothing about 'an evening and a morning,' to END the seventh day as in the case of the other six days. This is a meaningful omission. The record simply states, 'God proceeded to bless the seventh day and make it sacred, because on it he has been resting from all his work.' Gen. 2:3.

The seventh day continued and the Bible supports this conclusion. It speaks of God still resting thousands of years after creation. At Psalm 95:8-11, we read that Jehovah said to the Israelites in the wilderness that they would not enter into His rest because of the hardness of their hearts.

Thus, God had been resting from works of the sort described in Genesis 1 and 2 from the creation of Eve to that time, more than 2,500 years.
---David8318 on 4/23/10

The Word helps us by identifying 3 of the 7 days:
1. The preparation day, the day Jesus died is generally accepted by the world as GOOD FRIDAY on which Jesus died, and on which the women went home to prepare spices and perfumes. 2. The Sabbath day,the 7th day, on which Chrit rested in the tomb and on which the women showd their love for Jesus by also resting on that day.3. Next we have the firt day of the week, celebrated by the world as Easter Sunday, the day Christ was resurrected.
Whether it is Friday the preparation, Sabbath the day of rest or the First Day (Eater Sunday) I believe that we can readily agree
that since these three days are 24hrs days, MO-TH are also 24 hrs days and the CREATION WEEK is also made up of 7 24hrs days.
---Pierre on 4/23/10

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The 6 days at Exodus 20:8-11 does not include the creation of Earth mentioned at Gen.1:1.

Planet Earth was created before the 'six days' in which it was formless, waste and in darkness. The 'heavens and earth' created during the 6 days refer to the 'heavens' made on the 2nd day where winged creatures would fly, and the 'earth' that was created was the earth made to appear above the waters on the 3rd day.

Nowhere in Exodus 20:8-11 does it say God's creative day is 24hrs in length.

From Psalm 90:4, it's clear Moses (and the Israelites) knew the difference between 'a day' with God, and 'a day' in human terms and that they were not the same in length. They simply copied God's creative week- work 6 days and rest on the 7th.
---David8318 on 4/23/10

John 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

I think Jesus who created would knoe
---francis on 4/23/10

Gen 2:2-3 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Exo 31:17 ...between me and the children of Israel for ever: for [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Hbr 4:9-10 There remaineth therefore a (day of?)rest to the people of God.For he that is entered into his (day of?)rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God [did] from his.
You do err concerning Heb 4.. enter in today, not tomorrow, if you did not yesterday, therefore, do not wrest, but rest.
---MIchael on 4/23/10

Peter, Exodus 20:8-11 clearly shows God created in 6 24hr days and rested the 7th 24hr day, and that this was the reason He commanded the Israelites to work for 6 of the same length days and rest the 7 day, of the same length.

If your reasoning is correct then the Israelites never again worked after the first 7th day, being on an everlasting Sabbath.

If the lack of 'evening and morning' means the 7th day never ended, it also means it never began, by the same logic, as each of the 6 days began with 'evening', as every day begins even today, in the Middle east. The Jewish Sabbath (Saturday) begins on Friday evening.
---Warwick on 4/23/10

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Cluny it is by faith we are saved, and without faith it is impossible to please God. It is not in the philosophies or opinions of man that we are to have faith but in God and His word.

His word clearly say that God created in 6 24 hr days. You will search Scripture in vain for any other meaning. Nonetheless some Christians either say it doesn't matter i.e. what God says doesn't matter, or that the days were not 24hr days, despite what God's word says. Both of these are not positions of faith and it is by our faith, plus our works that we will be judged.
---Warwick on 4/23/10

Peter, Donna wrote "We are told a thousand years is as one day to the Lord."

In reality 2 Peter 3:8 says "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day."

This verse, in context concerns those who claimed Jesus was slow in returning. Peter points out God is eternal therefore outside of time. This verse does not say a day is a thousand years, or a thousand years is a day, to God.
---Warwick on 4/23/10

Oh, are we discussing the days of Creation in Genesis 1 for a change?

According to Matthew 25, this is not what we'll be quizzed about at the Last Judgement.
---Cluny on 4/23/10

The record shows that creation was 6,000 years to man. The world was created on the night of April 1st 10194 B.C., and Adam the first man was created on Friday afternoon on April 1st in 4194 B.C. God told Adam that in the day he eats of the forbidden tree he would die. Now we know that after Adam ate of the tree he lived for only 930 years of age and then died, for scripture tells us that 1000 years to man on earth is the same as 1 day to God in heaven: therefore according to God, Adam did not indeed live one full day because 930 years is less than 1000 years.
---Eloy on 4/23/10

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it matters not to me whether it took 6 minutes,6 days,6years,6000 years,60,000 years,60,000.000 years, etc,etc,etc,etc,what matters to me is God is,God does,God did,God will.
---tom2 on 4/23/10

The Bible does teach 'one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.'- 2 Pe.3:8.

Peter may have had Psalm 90:4 in mind which reads 'For a thousand years are in your eyes but as yesterday when it is past.'

Interestingly, the writer of Psalm 90:4 is in fact Moses, the one used to write the Genesis creation account and who is discussing God's creative activity in Psalm 90.

Paul wrote that God's 7th day of 'rest' was not only running in the days of Joshua and King David, but also in his day at Hebrews 4:9.

The 7th day of God's rest (not ours) is still running today. Nowhere does the Bible conclude God's 7th day ('evening and morning') to correspond to the previous 6.
---David8318 on 4/23/10

Rod, salvation itself is scientifically inaccutate, also dead people rising, feeding the 5,000, healing the blind, and creation itself. Likewise much of the evolutionary story is scientifically inaccurate.

Considering God creates from nothing (scientifically inaccurtate) I doubt He will struggle to make stars fall to earth.

The Bible was written by God in terms we limited creatures understand. I was at the beach and the sun did rise. At another beach it disappeared behind the ocean. An accurate description of events, from the perspective of the viewer. Scientific books speak of sun rise and sunset.

Fortunately you are right Rod, Scripture does 'teach' salvation, and nonetheless always teaches absolute Truth.
---Warwick on 4/22/10

Tom I don't think many people are actually concerned about how long a day is for God,knowing He is eternal, therefore outside of time.

However God created time for we 'time-bound' creatures, and has defined how long a day is in Genesis 1:5, and Exodus 20:8-11. Why therefore do not all who follow God follow His definition of day length? If it doesn't matter then why not go with what God's word says. But many stubbornly refuse to do so, don't they? So it does matter to them. Why?
---Warwick on 4/22/10

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Warwick, Here are a couple of examples of statements that are not scientifically accurate in the Bible. The stars of the sky will fall to the earth, and the sun rises and sets.

The Bible is not teaching science. It teaches salvation.
---Rod4Him on 4/22/10

donna I wonder also why people seem so concerned about how long a day is for God,when he is eternal?seems like a silly questions, or maybe one of those ,heres your sign things.Anyway,one day we will be with God ,and live eternally, and eternity is alot longer than the time it took God to make creation,so why be so interested in days when our goal is ETERNAL LIFE?
---tom2 on 4/22/10

In relation to God's creation of the universe: Angels: The creation of angels is not mentioned in the original week. However, in the book of Job [38:7] the Bible seems to place their creation at the same time as that of the stars. [Job 1:6] is a good scripture to support this. If this is correct the angels came into being on the fourth day. Others feel this same chapter [38:4] indicated angels were present at the creation of the earth. If this is true, then angels must have been created sometime during the very first day of the creation week.
---catherine on 4/22/10

Rod, I am very happy the Bible isn't a scientific text book. The reason being that what is explained as fact in such books is a constantly changing story, as new 'facts' contradict the old.

Conversely the Bible is the word of God which was factually correct from the beginning. God was there at the beginning of creation but no man was, and He is the Truth who cannot lie.

Galileo came into conflict with the Roman Catholic Church as it had accepted the Aristotelian view of the heavens. This is not the Biblical view. Galileo's observations showed they were wrong. And the rest is history.
---Warwick on 4/22/10

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Donna, we know how long God's creation days were because He has told us and He cannot lie. By faith we know- Hebrews 11:3,6.

Nowhere in Scripture are we told "a thousand years is as one day to the Lord."

You are correct, God is outside time so why did He create time? Obviously for us-Exodus 20: 8-11 where God says the Israelites were to work for six days, and rest the seventh. Why? Because "in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, ...., but he rested on the seventh day...."

It is most important to stick to what God's word says as those who argue otherwise ignore His word, having ulterior motives.
---Warwick on 4/22/10

When discussing this, remember that the Bible wasn't written as a scientific book.

Galileo was put under house arrest by the "church" because Galileo knew scientifically that things were different than what the "church" believed the Bible said.
---Rod4Him on 4/22/10

We're not because we weren't there.

We are told a thousand years is as one day to the Lord.

There is no time in heaven....God doesn't have a watch.

Why is it so important to you Peter to "Be sure" that the days are of 24 hours? Just curious.
---Donna5535 on 4/22/10

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