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Did Eve Really Know God

Why did Eve choose to listen to the serpent when she was walking in the light (with God) and knew God? Or did she know God? Do we really KNOW God?

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Axe, Satan, the serpent, is the same Luscifur which was kicked out of heaven. He is not human, he is spirit. In Genesis he was in the form of a serpent, later on in time the writers came out with another name for the serpent, the name Satan, which also means devil. Mentioned in the temptation of Jesus.
In scripture we also learn that humans are Satan's or adversary. In Mark 8:33 "But when he had turned around and looked at His disciples, He rebuked Peter, saying, "Get behind Me Satan" for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men" In the New Testament, Satan is used. more.
---ven. on 6/27/20


Strongaxe, I believe Genesis 3:14-15 prove you wrong.

Satan has many names in scripture ...Lucifer is another. The serpent made of bronze in the OT represented SIN, not a reptile, and a reminder of the fall of man wasn't because of a talking horse like our silly sitcom Mr. Ed. And I believe Revelation clearly show in God's eyes He's grouped all together showing the many different names and references to Satan.

So we'll have to just agree to disagree.
---kathr4453 on 6/27/20


And the great dragon was cast down, the old serpent, he that is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world, he was cast down to the earth, and his angels were cast down with him (Revelation 12:9).
---kathr4453 on 6/27/20


kathr4453:

No, I don't believe that at all. Today, snakes crawl on the ground because they have no legs, yet their skeletons have vestigial legs. Their DNA includes instructions to make legs, but it has been suppressed, implying their ancestors did have legs at some point.

We DON'T see pictures of Satan, with horns and barbed tail, crawling on his belly. The "serpent" punished in Genesis was an actual snake, not Satan. Also, in Job, which must have occurred after Genesis (despite of when it was written), Satan was "walking about", so he didn't lose his legs.

Balaam's ass spoke to Balaam, but was not Satan. The Serpent spoke to Adam, but was not Satan either.
---StrongAxe on 6/26/20


Axe, you say, "ven: Job uses "Satan". Scholars believe Job was written earlier than other Bible books." When they put the Bible passages together, I don't think they are all in the right order.
Almost all are right.

,"Why would God give Adam a test he KNEW Adam would fail, and blame him for it?" First, God knows all, He then gives instructions to Adam knowing Adam is going to fail. God knew Adam would sin, yet God was not responsible for Adam's actions or choices.
What gets me is the story of Pharaoh. God brought him up to Pharaoh, knowing that in life Pharaoh going to kill many innocent people in his life in order for God to proclaim His name, many people died. Many were beaten.
---ven. on 6/26/20




So Strongaxe, in concluding to your options, are you saying God is warning us about the same serpent in Genesis is the exact one in 2Cor 11:3 that was driven out of the Garden of Eden? And is still on earth crawling around deceiving folks? Wow.

I believe you are in a vast minority and maybe all alone on this one, but to overthink what God clearly says, THAT OLD SERPENT , there is no other but the one in the garden.

But believe what you will. I still stand by by comment THAT I NEVER BROUGHT UP SATAN IN THE GARDEN IN THE FIRST PLACE.....VEN DID, and my response was to his comment. So if you want to school anyone ..you are addressing the wrong person.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/20


I believe this clears it up.

Genesis 3:14-15
And the Lord God said unto the serpent, because you hast done this, thou arr cursed above all cattle and above every beast of the field, upon thy belly shall thou go and dust shall thou ear all the days of life, AND I WILL PUT EMNITY BETWEEN THEE AND THE WOMAN, AND BETWEEN THY SEED AND HER SEED, it shall bruise thy head and thou shall bruise his heel.



So there is no stretch to understand that the Lord is speaking to the serpent and Satan in Genesis 3. Genesis 3:14 is said to the serpent and then Genesis 3:15 is said to Satan who is influencing the serpent.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/20


ven:

Job uses "Satan". Scholars believe Job was written earlier than other Bible books.

Why would God give Adam a test he KNEW Adam would fail, and blame him for it?


kathr4453:

2 Co 11:3 says the same as Genesis. "serpent", not "Satan" or "Devil".

Rev 12:9 says "the great dragon", "that old serpent", "the Devil", "Satan" but doesn't necessarily mean this serpent is the Genesis one.

Genesis says the serpent was punished by being forced to crawl on the earth - which applies to biological snakes. If "serpent" was just a metaphor for "Satan", that would not be the case.
---StrongAxe on 6/25/20


.....regards to the world of man. Satan was already in the garden. He was created before there was earth and all other things. He was present, or are you going to argue about that?
Concerning Eve, the Bible does not work mention God warning Adam not to touch the the fruit of the tree, yet Eve added those words. I said maybe Adam told her not to touch the fruit, I do not know that. I was not there
---ven. on 6/24/20

A double minded man is unstable in ALL his ways.

Ven was the one who originally said SATAN was in the garden, not me. Now if you say the serpent was not Satan, then exactly what verse says Satan was already in the Garden? I see ven embelleshes a lot adding to things not stated in scripture.
---kathr4453 on 6/25/20


Strongaxe, I believe scripture defines the serpent as the devil, AKA Satan re 2 Corinthians 11:3 and Revelation 12:9.

But to your question, Had God not said anything at all then why not, Eve would have had no reason to question. However BECAUSE Eve did say, The Lord said we shall not eat of this particular tree, she had to make a choice, Just as Paul is saying in 2 Corinthians 11:3 that today we are just as guilty if we are lured away by false teachers. There is no excuse for us or Eve.
---kathr4453 on 6/25/20




Axe, you are correct concerning the serpent. At that time the name Satan, was not used in the Hebrew Bible.
As to the matter of Eve. She was innocent. Even when she was talking to the serpent. It wasn't until she added of the fruit that her eyes were open and she became more knowledgeable. Yet, she was deceived but Adam was not. He should have being looking after Eve, but he forgot about her. I wonder how big the garden was that Adam did not hear the serpent talking to Eve.
Concerning God, He knew all along that they would fail. God is all knowing, nothing surprises Him.
---ven. on 6/25/20


kathr4453:

The corruptor in Eden was the Serpent, not Satan. Satan isn't even mentioned by name until Job (14 times), 1 Chronicles (once), Psalms (once) and Zehariah (twice).

What bothers me is why SHOULD Eve have rejected being tempted? She was innocent. She had never heard a lie before. She had never been tempted before. How was she expected to KNOW she SHOULD resist temptation, or that temptation was evil? That knowledge was in the Fruit WHICH SHE HADN'T EATEN YET.

Ask yourself this. Do you remember the very first time in your life you heard a lie? If so, did you believe it? If so, why? How did it make you feel when you discovered the truth? I remember, and I felt a tremendous feeling of anger and betrayal.
---StrongAxe on 6/24/20


Ven, I see you are the one complaining here. Sin was not in the world or garden before Adam and Eve sinned. You said Satan was, but sin is not another word or name for Satan. And Satans sin is not the issue here. Had Eve rejected being tempted to this very day, sin would not be in the world, as Romans 5 state BY ONE MAN SIN ENTERED THE WORLD. And you keep insisting Eve lied. How do you know Moses who wrote Genesis wasn't the one who lie or embelleshed? You don't!

I stand by my statement ALSO believed by many pastors and teachers, that if Eve lied to Satan then SIN had already been committed BY MAN regardless of Satan, and the eating of the fruit was not the first sin.

So go find somewhere else to complain to.
---kathr4453 on 6/24/20


David, yes. She believed Satan over God. She made a choice between the two. She ate being deceived, and Adam ate, not being deceived, but ate because of his love for Eve. He laid down his life for her. Jesus is said to be the last Adam, who laid down His life for His Bride. So it's important to see from Genesis to Revelation, all scripture points to Christ. And we get so much more understanding from scripture if we look at it through the eyes of God.

For God so loved THE WORLD He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life, is to man, not trees, stars, dirt, animals, Angels, ...and we need to make sure Satan doesn't contradict THESE WORDS God spoke.
---kathr4453 on 6/24/20


Kath, you now comlain again with my answer. You give: "
Romans 5:12
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned"

Here the Bible mentions world in regards to the world of man. Satan was already in the garden. He was created before there was earth and all other things. He was present, or are you going to argue about that?
Concerning Eve, the Bible does not mention God warning Adam not to touch the the fruit of the tree, yet Eve added those words. I said maybe Adam told her not to touch the fruit, I do not know that. I was not there
---ven. on 6/24/20


One thing that bothers me about the Fall story is that Eve believed the lie, but why should he not have done so?---StrongAxe

StrongAxe
If you believe a lie, you believe, because you are not aware it is a lie, else you wouldnt believe it.

The bible is simply stating that Satan lied to Eve, and she believed the lie Satan told. Her problem was, she took the word of Satan over the word of God.
---David on 6/24/20


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Ven, no one was talking about the fall of Satan and the Angels before creation. We were talking about sin in the garden accusing Eve of lying to the serpent would be sin. Unless you don't feel lying is a sin. Maybe that it, lying to you is not a sin.

Satan tempting Eve or Eve even thinking about disobeying was not sin either. Doing the sin is sin. Lying as you suggested would have been an act of sin. Doing the sin.

Silly you argue just to argue having no point to make but to argue.

Are you going to twist and change the subject again. If Satans sin counted as sin, then Adam and Eve were sinners because of Satans existance....OR NOT. I say NOT.
---kathr4453 on 6/23/20


Romans 5:12

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:


So again ven is WRONG, trying to look so smart he looks stupid. Satan sin may have infested the universe, but "THE WORLD " HERE means man. John 3:16 , 1 John 2:2 Satan is not a MAN. Also WORLD does not mean the ELECT ONLY. It would be silly to say "as by one man sin entered into the elect. " NOPE.

Keep arguing ven. I know my Bible. Do you?

Also Jesus died for the sin of the WORLD, does not include Satan.

So you need to either listen ven, or maybe be slow to speak.
---Kathr4453 on 6/23/20


Axe, you are correct, many people are not mentioned in the Bible, a lot of times women, they were not important to the stories. Every detail is not mention either. Just think how many books we would have if everything was recorded.
And Kath is wrong, sin was already present in the world, Satan The greatest sinner. On the subject of Eve, I do not believe she sinned before the fall of Adam. She ate from the fruit, and disobeyed God by eating, because she was deceived, Adam was not, for the human race, sin came through Adam.
---ven. on 6/23/20


Well we also see the 4 gospels giving account of their time with Jesus those 3 1/2 years Jesus was in ministry yet none of these 4 books are an exact word for word duplication. And in some instances draw questions concerning accuracy. Yet no where are any accused of lying. Moses I believe is said to have written Genesis, as the Holy Spirit revealed to Moses umpteen years after the flood even. So Moses was not even there. And I don't think Moses made up stuff either making Eve look like a liar. So one must either believe the Holy Spirit revealed this to Moses OR Moses lied.
---kathr4453 on 6/22/20


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ven:

Maybe Eve said something God DID say, just wasn't recorded. How likely is it that God spoke only two sentences to Adam in his whole life (i.e. name animals, eat anything except two fruit)?

The Bible typically only records things that are important, and omits most things that aren't, and the same goes with people, especially women (rarely mentioned, unless important to the story). Adam and Eve had no recorded daughters, yet their sons found wives somewhere. ALL patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob) and everyone mentioned in genealogies had only sons. Jacob's children mention only 12 sons - and one daughter, important to the story because her rape stared a war.
---StrongAxe on 6/21/20


Yea, to falsely accuse eve of lying would be saying sin was already in the garden before anyone even ate . I had a hard time with that. Scripture says IN ADAM ALL DIE. So to try to change the facts here is odd. I do know there are some who teach that about Eve lying to the serpent, but in researching these guys, they don't believe in original sin to begin with.
---kathr4453 on 6/20/20


When I mentioned that Eve had lied, I guess you could say she did not lie but added to the command of God. Something God did not mentioned.
But Adam and Eve did not know what sin was. Adam might have told her not to touch the fruit for her protection. It could be she thought God had said it. But the sin was when Adam ate of the fruit.
---ven. on 6/20/20


One thing that bothers me about the Fall story is that Eve believed the lie, but why should he not have done so? SHE HAD NEVER HEARD A LIE BEFORE and had no idea that deceit was even possible. She and Adam were totally innocent. They had no knowledge of evil UNTIL they ate from the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. At that point, their eyes were open, but then it was too late.
---StrongAxe on 6/17/20


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Eve chose to listen to the serpent because when the serpent spoke, he was very convincing in his words. He seem more convincing then God, that her eyes would be open and she would be like God. She also lied to the serpent when she said that God had told them, they were not to touch the fruit in he tree, but God never said that. She added to the command of God when she lied.
---ven. on 6/16/20


I believe scripture explains this as women being the weaker vessel, and exactly why Satan approached Eve and not Adam.

It's also a picture of Christ and the Church. Christ is our head, as we live in submission to Him. We are HIS BODY, as Eve was from Adams body. This is stated in Ephesians... He also gave his life for the church, dying for us, as Adam also laid down his life for Eve.

Trying to make anything more out of it is just legalism. I see GRACE in the whole of it.

Jesus was FORORDAINED BEFORE the foundation of the world to take away sin. GRACE. And Genesis to Revelation is about Jesus Christ doing just that.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/20


The bible says Adam was not deceived but Eve was...
Eve coveted the tree and somehow this became apparent to the serpent (no one schemes without doing a little research beforehand).

Sin and Obedience cannot exist without the law. They had to be given a choice to obey or sin. Jesus went through the same...he was led in the wilderness to be tempted. Jesus was able to use the word of God to resist the twisting of the word by satan...Eve DID know God and she specifically tells satan the law, even saying she will die if she even touches it...the question isn't necessarily why they did it because God allowed this to happen.
---LadyShip19 on 4/27/20


i know mary (and ginger)...this is a very difficult form of communication. the only one that is important is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
---aka on 4/8/11


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aka, it was only one answer to a statement. everyone here speculates when there is no answer found in the bible. I just happened to see what you wrote and not the others. that was all. in love
---mary on 4/8/11


no mary. what i am saying is that you said that nowhere in the bible does it say....

and i am asking you where you were when others were making other suppositions that are not supported AT ALL by scripture.
---aka on 4/8/11


There are many voices in the world. On our daily journey we meet people at work, in grocery stores, our neighbors, passers-by, and each have their own words to say. But as we grow we are to learn to distinguish between the words of truth from the words of error, and we are to rely upon God's words always and at all times. When God says it it is right and dependable, but when the source of words is not God then we need to exercise prudence and discernment, especially if the source is Satan or a deceived soul who often mixes the truth with error in order to lead people into error and to destruction.
---Eloy on 4/6/11


aka, you are saying that because Adam did not tell Eve who she was, she sinned. Nothing to that effect. also, no one knows why Adam rebelled, not even the theologians, for he had no sin nature. Not like all of his descendants have after the fall. Anything said is only speculating.
---mary on 4/6/11


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//no where in the bible does it say that Adam chose to die with Eve.// mary

mary, support this with scripture actually given.

//Adam did not tell his wife all she needed to know and he also added to the information he actually did give her...
I don't believe she knew who she was. And that is Adam's fault for not telling her.//

where were you on that?

archetypes are throughout the scripture. they provide continuity, synopsis, and witness. e.g. David is an archetype of Jesus. however, it is not necessarily directly written. Adam dying for Eve but pulling back is a good archetype. are not men instructed to die for the wife like christ did for the church?
---aka on 4/5/11


When he sinned, he didn't chose to die.
She ate because she was convinced that the fruit was good to eat,....
---mary on 4/5/11

5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, (ye shall be as gods), knowing good and evil.

6 When the woman saw that the tree was good (for food), that it was (pleasant to the eyes), a tree to be desired (to make one wise), she took of the fruit thereof,did eat, gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat.

Both knowing penalty was death...chose to eat. Adam knew penalty and chose...death. His mate already had. As you say...it may not have been to "die" with Eve specifically as "love".
---Trav on 4/5/11


no where in the bible does it say that Adam chose to die with Eve. adding to the bible is a sin. When he sinned, he didn't chose to die. She ate because she was convinced that the fruit was good to eat, and she also gave to to her husband with her, and he ate, and look what happen, the eyes of both were opened. They did not realize what they had done until after they ate. They were convicted of sin after they ate.
---mary on 4/5/11


Adam chose to die with Eve, and is a shaddow of the LOVE Christ has for His bride, who laid down His own life. ---kathr4453 on 4/2/11

that is most intriguing. it works at so many levels, then

...it was the woman that you gave me.

true picture of man...he can never totally die to himself or for (any body else), so God had to send God in the flesh to do it.
---aka on 4/4/11


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Trey,
Adam did not tell his wife all she needed to know and he....
... is Adam's fault for not telling her.
---ginger on 3/24/11

Don't give us your bitter apples.
Even EVE didn't blame Adam! She was there!!
You have "men" issues.
The punishment is in place, we live it. I'm not mad at your distant mother. For some strange reason I still love "Some" lovable women.

Gen 2:17 unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake, in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life,
---Trav on 4/4/11


Adam chose to die with Eve, and is a shaddow of the LOVE Christ has for His bride, who laid down His own life.
---kathr4453 on 4/2/11

Interesting thought.
Adams wife,made from him...tempted him. He succumbed to temptation...too extension of himself.

19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
22For I delight in law of God after the inward man:

23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to law of sin which is in my members.

24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from body of this death?
---Trav on 4/4/11


let's again assume that Adam told Eve that God said not to eat and not to touch. however, she did both things that Adam had told her that God did not want her to do. even if that was not what God said exactly, did not she disobey God in effect?

satan was not even challenging our word. he was challenging God's. we are nothing to satan. he hates us.

satan is to blame for the deception. they failed each other in the ways that men and women still fail each other today.

avoid the two extremes. adam failed eve and eve failed adam, and together (and separately) they failed God.

the two great commandments cover both satan's lies and A & E's failure of each other.
---aka on 4/3/11


Adam chose to die with Eve, and is a shaddow of the LOVE Christ has for His bride, who laid down His own life.

It doesn't appear there was any sexuality before sin, or we would see children before sin.

Adam didn't even KNOW ( know here means sexually) until after they left the Garden.
---kathr4453 on 4/2/11


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I agree with the post by---Lance on 3/24/11. Adam's desire not to lose his mate has to do with the sexuality of the human being.
---mima on 3/24/11


Don't blame Eve for disobeying God, Adam was forewarned, he just couldn't stand the thought of being separated from his mate.
---Lance on 3/24/11


Trey,
adam fell because he chose to fall.
Eve was decieved. What does that tell you?
That what Legends says here is corect.
Adam did not tell his wife all she needed to know and he also added to the information he actually did give her.
Eve knew God loved her very much.
I don't believe she knew who she was. And that is Adam's fault for not telling her.
---ginger on 3/24/11


Donna, the reason Eve listened to the Serpent is because:
1Tim2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Another question is, "Why would Adam, who was not deceived, eat of the forbidden fruit?" I believe he was tempted and lusted for that which was not his.

Jas1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
---trey on 3/23/11


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To know God is to know Truth! The Whole unadulterated Truth.
Adulterating:
1)Adding to the purity of something
2)Taking away(WITHHOLDING) from the purity of something.
---Legends on 3/17/11

Interesting that this a commandment also.
Adulterating.
Noah was perfect in his Generations. Unadulterated with others in the land.

This is what happened when Israel went outside their own...they became Adulterer's. Adulterated.

Highly promoted today. Hmmm kinda makes one wonder why. The world/men promote...then it must be ordained/correct before GOD is the logic??

One world. One people. One government. GOD help Israel out of this mess.
Perhaps you are more correct than you even realize, Legend.
---Trav on 3/20/11


To know God is to know Truth! The Whole unadulterated Truth.
Adulterating:
1)Adding to the purity of something
2)Taking away(WITHHOLDING) from the purity of something.
Eve's true identity was adulterated when Adam did not disclose her full, foreordained identity to her(he only called his wife the common term WOMAN. Later after her deception, Adam called her name Eve meaning "Life")
"Woman" didn't know herself as God knew her. Adam offered a lower name that withheld vital information about womens' true identities.
Adam's mouth created the problem. IMMEDIATELY after, the serpent came. Deception always IMMEDIATELY follows adulterated information.
The more we know WHOLE Truth, the more we KNOW God.
---Legends on 3/17/11


I think we should look generally as to how do you react when you get a message through the second person, Adam knew God very well cause he spoke to him directly. Eve did not speak to God, she received a message from God through Adam. When she met the snake, it was the first time she heard a different voice besides Adam's. I don't think she realised that it was satan talking. If so, I think she would not have interogated the snake and would have chose to walk away. And told Adam of the incident. Adam was asleep, what happens if you are a women who ha a partner and does not walk with him or have no connection, is easy to be deceived. This is a wake up call, that men should always beside their wives and make decisions, be good demostrators.
---Novi on 1/22/11


Lawrence, you are right, I believe that after the curse, she really knew the mistake that she had made. The first physical death should have been man and his wife, but it was an animal-a shadow of the reality that God would someday kill a substitute to redeem sinners.
---MarkV. on 6/14/10


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Mark V
I meant to say, Eve knew God even more aft she received the first curse.
---Lawrence on 6/14/10


Lawrance, she knew God before any sin was committed. Here it is again,
"Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man" Gen. 2:22.
If God brought her to the man, she had to have known God then. She was walking with God, had to have known God.
---MarkV. on 6/12/10


She prob knew God later (when she was charged) aft she partook of the forbidden fruit then gave to Adam.
God confronted Adam & Eve, then later they were charged, her first & then him, then out of the Garden they went.
She probably thought, did I cause all of this?
1st.Tim.2 v 14.
---Lawrence on 6/10/10


Until their eyes were 'opened' they where blinded to sin-knew only good-naked before God and were not ashamed.
But Nachash[dragon-serpent-Rev12:4-9] was more wiser then any living being of the field.
Beguiled-enticed-
eyes opened to sin which is darkness-closed eyes to light and truth.

God asked no question of the serpent-only sentenced.
Gen3:14-15
And the Lord God said unto the serpent...And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy SEED and her SEED:[It]shall bruise thy head, and [thou]shalt bruise His heel."
I will greatly multiply they sorrow and thy conception, in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children: and thy desire [shall]be to they husband, and[he]shall rule over thee.
---char on 6/4/10


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I agree with---miche3754 post on 6/2/10. And it was Adam who chose to disobey God.
Adam's choice had to do with Adam's human sexuality after all if he lost his mate Eve who is he going to make with the apes?
---mima on 6/4/10


Donna66, I believe you are correct in your answer. It is only splitting hairs. When she was convinced that the Serpent was speaking the Truth and God was not, she was completely deceived. This was her first and only encounter with the serpent that we know of. When God made woman out of the rib of Adam we are told, "And He brought her to the man" So Eve knew God, she walked with Him towards Adam. Now Adam did tell Eve what God had made clear about not eating from the tree in the middle of the garden, because she told that to the Serpent. The instructions were clear.
---MarkV. on 6/4/10


When Eve chose to believe Satan over God she was choosing Satan over God. We have a lot of people who falls into this category, today. You rather believe false preachers [Satan sent] than to believe the true preachers [God sent]. You rather believe Satan over GOD. Ok! Nothing has changed since Adam and Eve....You can see Adam and Eve in the unbelievers of today. For one thing passing the buck. Blaming everybody, or each other.
---catherine on 6/2/10


Catherine,

Yes, Eve knew God, we agree there, BUT...

Eve did not CHOOSE the serpent over God. The BIble clearly states that SHE WAS DECIEVED!
Adam made the choice to fall.
---miche3754 on 6/2/10


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Oh, yes, Eve really knew God..... However, Eve, made a choice. God or the serpent. She chose the serpent. She also involved another person in her sin, Adam. The final step on the path to sin is the involvement of others in our sin....[Affects someone else]. Eve's sin affected Adam, and consequently, Adam's sin affected the entire race....Because of sin, their intimate fellowship with God was broken.... Now, in Genesis 3: 20-21>>>"coats of skins, and clothed them". God's way of demonstrating that fellowship was restored....You can really know God through His Son Jesus Christ. There is no other way, and no other God. Only One.
---catherine on 6/1/10


Miche,
Many blessing to you sister-
God's peace.
---char on 5/3/10


AMEN CHAR!!!!
I actually taught sunday school class on that too!!!!

I love it when God gives me confirmation!!
---miche3754 on 5/3/10


Miche-I agree-Yes-Eve knew God.
My thoughts:
Adam-The man-born of God-formed from dust. Eve-made of dust from man.
Gen121-22
I believe the the king of Tyrus and the Prince of Tyrus in Ezekiel tells us satan's different personas.
Ex:
Before the fall-as King
Ezek28:11-19
vs.13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God,every precieous stone was thy covering...
After the fall-(current as prince)
Ez 28:1-10
vs2...because thy heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a god, I set in the seat of god)...

I see Eve being decieved first by the pleasant sight...
Gen 1:6
...and that pleasant to the eyes,and a tree to be desired to make wise...

then she knew good and evil-before she only knew good.
---char on 5/2/10


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In other words, those of us who know the 10 Commmandments are deceived....does that make sense? That's how I took it when i read your post - my apologies if I misinterpreted what's in your heart...my fault, I apologize.
---Donna5535 on 4/30/10

LOL it happens
---FRANCIS on 4/30/10


In other words, those of us who know the 10 Commmandments are deceived....does that make sense? That's how I took it when i read your post - my apologies if I misinterpreted what's in your heart...my fault, I apologize.
---Donna5535 on 4/30/10

I think francis means that we know the commandments but choose NOT to obey them.

But yeah, sis, what you and Francis are posting make sense ,-)
---miche3754 on 4/30/10


francis, this statement: Many of us know the ten commandments, but we are deceived.

I think I could have misinterpreted it. But it sounds like you're saying "Many of us know the ten commandments, but we're deceived anyway."

In other words, those of us who know the 10 Commmandments are deceived....does that make sense? That's how I took it when i read your post - my apologies if I misinterpreted what's in your heart...my fault, I apologize.
---Donna5535 on 4/30/10


NOT the one splitting hairs, Donna.

By the way, beguiled MEANS to be deceived NOT convinced. The serpent didn't convince her of anything.
HE flat out lied thus deceiving her.

Paul says Eve was deceived NOT convinced.
And I believe him.
---miche3754 on 4/30/10


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miche3754-- Gen 3:4-6 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat


Eve let the Seprent DECEIVE her not convince her ??
If you are convinced to believe a lie
you're deceived. Why split hairs?
Furthermore he beguiled her.
2Cr 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty...
---Donna66 on 4/29/10


francis, this is where I disagree with you. I realize "MANY" does not include "ALL"
---Donna5535 on 4/29/10

I am 100% sure I said "many" and not "all."

And all i did was quoted the bible.

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

So where is the disagreement?
---francis on 4/29/10


---francis on 4/29/10
Many of us know the ten commandments, but we are deceived. And we do not know God because we do not keep his Ten Commandments.

francis, this is where I disagree with you. I realize "MANY" does not include "ALL" Christians....Many do not keep his commandments because they are not in-love with Jesus and when you are in-love with Jesus, those 10 Commandments become 10 Promises, you don't see them as commandments, you see them as promises.
---Donna5535 on 4/29/10


God did not tell them not to touch.
---MIchael on 4/29/10


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1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Eve knew the commandment of God, she knew not to touch, or eat from the tree. For a while she did keep his commandments, so we know that she knew Him.
But she was deceived. She was a free morlal bring and she made a choice

Many of us know the ten commandments, but we are deceived. And we do not know God because we do not keep his Ten Commandments.
---francis on 4/29/10


Satan through the serpent approached Eve first becaue she is the weaker vessel.... Adam shifted the blame to Eve in saying this woman you gave me. And then he shifted the blame to God,[almost like a challenge, yes, I did eat], and then over to the serpent. Instead of taking full responsibilty for his actions. He first blamed Eve, then God, and then the serpent. God kicked them out of the garden, too.
---catherine on 4/29/10


But she let the serpent convince her in the end.

We are told that THEY (both Adam and Eve) heard the voice of God in the cool of the evening.
Yes, they both knew God...but they didn't obey Him.
---Donna66 on 4/28/10

Remember Donna that Eve let the Seprent DECEIVE her not convince her.
He told the first lie ever told.

The rest is very true. They walked with God and talked with God, I believe she knew God, too.
---miche3754 on 4/29/10


Then what about the scripture, "If you love me, you'll obey me."

If Adam & Eve loved God, they would have obeyd him, right? Why didn't they?

By the way, in studying the account of Adam & Eve...it seems that God told Adam what tree he could and couldn't eat from and Adam in turn told Eve.....God didn't tell Eve directly. My point is: That could be where the communication problem happened...when Adam told Eve, he may have left a word or two out, thus a miscommunication happened and Eve believed the devil over Adam.
---Donna5535 on 4/29/10


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of course she knew God,more than we do today,but just like her,and adam,our nature,our flesh,leads us astray. We ,just as adam,and eve make decisions outside of the word,and will of God.also scripture clearly tells us we see,aka know,in part,but that one day we will know as we are known.Our hope is in God,that he is a rewarder of those who deligently seek him,remembering that this has all been accomplished thru his son jesus.
---tom2 on 4/29/10


donna,the correct response to whether we can know God is what jesus himself said,read john 14 verse 21
---tom2 on 4/29/10


Eve knew what God told her and Adam about the trees in the garden. She knew enough to correct's the serpent's initial attempt to mislead her.

Gen 3:1-3 Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

But she let the serpent convince her in the end.

We are told that THEY (both Adam and Eve) heard the voice of God in the cool of the evening.
Yes, they both knew God...but they didn't obey Him.
---Donna66 on 4/28/10


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