Cluny, I love what your father said. That was the best response to a statement like that. Your dad sounds like a wise man.
---Reba on 7/5/10|
Ecclesiastes 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts, even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other, yea, they have all one breath, so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all [is] vanity.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Everyone's spirit goes to the same God who gave it, sinner or saint.
There is no difference between the furenal survice.
You comfort the family.
Tou put the body in the grave.
The spirit goes back to God who gave it.
The body turns to dust.
Genesis 3:19 for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
---francis on 7/6/10|
What does the size of a funeral have to do with anything? I am a Christian and I am leaning toward having a graveside funeral. Quick and to the point. A million people can attend but it won't bring back the dead and certainly won't put them into Heaven! Or hell! People are very fickle and untrustworthy. If it were Oprah, or some other celebrity,the saved and unsaved would want to attend her funeral. Her funeral would be,undoubtedly,huge. But a poor christian man/woman, unknown and poor, would barely have a handful of people, at their funeral. So the numbers do not dictate anything. The dead won't know how many people are there and surely,won't care. The survivors are the ones who go to great lengths to prove something to the living.
---Robyn on 7/5/10|
I recently attended the funeral of my late father-in-law. The man was raised in a devoutly Christian home, but did not believe in God. He was a miserable man who lived his life for himself and took no interest whatsoever in his children or grandchildren. Alzheimer's stole what little connection he had with people toward the end of his life, and his funeral was very small.
His wife arranged for a clergyman to preside over the funeral service, but not knowing the deceased, he quickly invited family members to step forward to make comment on the man's life. One came foreward.We can know the impact of a life by the mourners at his funeral -- and an atheist funeral is a sad thing indeed.
---Elaine on 5/15/10|
Many people are shallow belivers who stay they believe in GOD but do not take him serious and do not commit their life to Him. Yet they will still get a preacher to get the immortal soul into some sort of heaven.
On the other hand the Bible calls the dead asleep. Act 2:29 Men [and] brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
1Cr 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits of them that slept.
---Samuel on 5/14/10|
When a really Christian person dies, I'd say a lot of people will be weeping because of how they miss that person. And ones will be thinking and talking about how they will always have that person and the person's love and example to help them through life. They will appreciate having had that person. And they might not be talking much about where the person is going, because their attention is more to how that person has been in their lives, and thanking God for this.
But in unbelieving funerals, I suspect we are going to hear a lot about where they have gone plus plenty of stories . . . instead of talking about how the person really was. And there may be wishful "maybe at the last minute talk".
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/14/10|
1. Neither unbeliever or believer is at his/her own funeral. Souls, at death, depart our bodies. Unbeliever's souls awake in torment. Believer's souls wake up in the presence of the Lord.
2. The believer's funeral is a testimony to the Godly life he/she lived on Earth & celebrates the life he/she now enjoys in the God's presence after death. For unbelievers, the only thing that can be noteworthy is perhaps some good works he/she did while on earth. Apart from that, there's no real hope or cause for celebration over the loss of unregenerated souls. In an attempt to console bereaved family & friends on such occassions, people often say things like, "He/she is now in a better place" wherever that may be.
---Leon on 5/14/10|
tom2 -- the only difference is in the people who believe that the deceased was what he or she appeared to be.
Yes. And those that don't,(believe the deceased was was what he/she appeared to be) either don't attend the funeral or they are family members who attend out of a feeling of obligation. If they feel "obligated" to attend, they probably feel obligated to act respectfully.
---Donna66 on 5/13/10|
the only difference is in the people who believe that the deceased was what he or she appeared to be.
---tom2 on 5/13/10|
there is none ,except in the minds of those people who knew that person and believe what they were during their life.non believers are described by jesus as being dead,even while they live.Our beliefs are perceptions are only truth when they are based upon the word,and governed by the acceptance of jesus.the flesh of both will rot in the grave,one will be raised unto eternal life,the other unto judgement,and the lake of fire.this is the only difference.
---tom2 on 5/13/10|
When Bob died some of his friends gathered at his wake, Jim said "Don't seem right just burying Bob, we really should do something religious" , so they started a bingo game!
---1st_cliff on 5/12/10|
Pierre-- My experience is that non-Christian funerals are NOT characterized by an atmosphere of "hopelessness". The non-believers present usually assume everyone goes to a "heaven" of some sort. Believers still have hope the the deceased made their peace with God just before they died. Almost all funerals have an element of sadness, NOT because of the departed's destination, but because friends and family of the deceased know they will miss having that person in their lives.
---Donna66 on 5/12/10|
I believe that funerals are more cultural than religious.
With few exception, people tend to follow cultural noirms regardless of religion or denomination when it comes to fnerals.
the differences being mainly in the belief of what happens in the afterlife.
---francis on 5/12/10|
In my first reply, the sinner person has made their choice when they die to go to hell, again, it's that persons choice, because they have rejected God in 1 way or another.
---Lawrence on 5/12/10|
The difference is in the belief of the person who died and the person who is burying them.
Example: I am a believer, born-again, spirit filled. My father died. I was his next of kin, in charge of his funeral, estate, etc.,
He is Catholic, so I burred him with a Catholic Mass being said, had a deacon at the grave doing the blessing (his entire family is Catholic and that's what they wanted me to do, so I did it for them, not me).
I do not want to be burried with a mass, but rather just a short viewing for my friends to come and say goodbye, a short message by my Pastor and take me to my grave and lower me into it in a casket. My spirit left me at the last breath I took, amen?
Does that make sense?
---Donna5535 on 5/12/10|
The service for the unbeliever will be characterized by an atmosphere of "hoplessnss", of a sad ending to life.
On the other hand the service for the believer will be characterized by an atmosphere filled with "hope" for the deceaced as if he/she just got a good start to life and the best is still to come!
---Pierre on 5/12/10|
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My father once went to an "everybody get up and say something" funeral of a suicide.
He stood up to say something. The deceased's friend said, "W.J., George made it clear he did not want a Christian funeral, so I don't want you saying anything Christian."
My father replied, "Well, I don't know anything heathen to say," and sat down.
---Cluny on 5/12/10|
That's a good question.
---amand6348 on 5/12/10|
What I have witnessed when a Man-made made minister of a Man-made relig-org ministers a funeral, they'l preach a non-sinner & a sinner on into heaven, no matter how clean or dirty that person has lived.
All of the funerals I've been to when an Apostolic Pentecost Minister ministered a sinners funeral, the pastor will say, this person is in the hands of The Living & just God. God will place that saved person soul in the right place, & the unsaved that sinner persons soul in the right place at the sinner persons choice.
---Lawrence on 5/12/10|