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Love Of Money Root Of Evil

There is nothing wrong with being wealthy. It's not the root of all evil is money, but the love of money is the root of all evil. I Timothy 6:10. Is this statement true?

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Rob, we can't share web sites here. However I have heard this so often on those teaching on the CBN network by WOF teachers. Kingdom NOW teachers.

WOF teachers are Kingdom NOW teachers. Did Jesus really "Pilate's judgment hall - slapped, smitten, beard plucked out, spit upon, mocked to

redeem us from every social injustice done to us

Absolutely not. Was Paul redeemed from every social injustice? NO! WOF /Kingdom now.

Today WE as the Church SUFFER all kinds of social injustices for the sake of the Gospel.

I'll find more! Hang in there!
---kathr4453 on 6/24/10

// "The Word goes on to say that He does NOTHING except He reveals it to His servants, the prophets."//

This is Scripture, Donna. You don't have an issue with me. You have an issue with the Word of God.

Again, I am not God nor am I a god. I am a son of God in the Son of God.
---Linda on 6/23/10

//You say you are like Jesus.... and I am like Satan for questioning who YOU are?//

You perceive everything through what you believe about what I believe and/or what you have heard from the bad apples. I didn't say you questioned me. The Scripture I used here has a principle in it. Many people can say that Jesus is the Son of the living God but not many can tell you what He did in redemption. They still believe that sin has dominion, that they can't resist the devil, that the devil is greater than they are, that healing of the physical body is not in the atonement (the stripes were in His body, not His spirit)...etc. They believe He is but not that He did the work. He called that unbelief "Satan".
---Linda on 6/23/10

When a person claims they can control God with their prayers and confessions, warning lights should go off. To stop going to doctors who are guided by God to many times save lives, is ludicrous. This kind of teachings come from the Word of Faith teachers. Kenneth Hagin says, that the powerful force by the words of the mouth, confession, will become reality and then you will get what you want from God. That confession is the first step and you can get healing, a new boat, someone to marry. The force of faith coupled with a carefully conceived positive confession is the only way to produce results. God's word conceived in the heart, then formed with the tongue and spoken out of the mouth becomes a spiritual force releasing the ability of God.
---Mark_V. on 6/24/10

Linda-- You say you do not claim to be a god. But everything else you say sounds as if you actually believe you are!
You say you are like Jesus.... and I am like Satan for questioning who YOU are?
By way of explanation you say you are like Jesus...and you tell me as Jesus did Peter, "get me behind me Satan"

You even have the nerve to say "The Word goes on to say that He does NOTHING except He reveals it to His servants,"...that's YOU.
You capilized NOTHING for emphasis.

I can forgive your insults, but I have to say I have never seen such unadulterated PRIDE in a Christian. Have you no shred of humility... No sense of the "the fear of God"? Do you ever read the verses on pride?
---Donna66 on 6/23/10

Jesus shed his blood 8 ways for 8 reasons, is new to me. Where did that come from Linda? I've never looked at it that way. It is interesting. May not be from the Word, but still interesting. I'll have to contemplate that for a while. Thanks for the input.

Everyone else. I've been in the so called WOF movement since 2004 & I never heard that, so why do you say that it's typical of WOF? And you say it so sarcastically. Have you heard that elsewhere? I'm just wondering why I haven't.

AGAIN, we are all the body of Christ. The body is not complete without all of us. Don't try to cut off your own arm.
---fay on 6/23/10

Mike, you are correct in all you said. I really don't know what was in the heart of Abraham, if he was scared or not even scared. But he was a man of faith and the famine was in God's hands anyways. God had a purpose for that famine to be there as He had control over it as He had with the famine in Egypt which appeared to man to be only the result of natural causes, Yet Joseph could say, "The thing is established of God, and God will shortly bring it to pass" Gen. 41:32. And also,
"And I also have withholden the rain from you, when there were yet three months before the harvest, and I caused it to rain upon one city, and caused it not to rain upon another city" Amos 4:7
---Mark_V. on 6/23/10

Kathr4453, I have done research on the Word of Faith Movement for a long time and have yet to find the things you listed.

If these things are true, if the moderators will make and exception and allow it, please share a web site where these teachings can be examined by myself and others.
---Rob on 6/23/10

Jesus shed His blood 8 ways for 8 reasons. ---.

Circumcision - to redeem us from the curse of the law
In the Garden - to redeem us from the sweat of Adam's brow, working to get the ground (heart) to produce
Pilate's judgment hall - slapped, smitten, beard plucked out, spit upon, mocked to redeem us from every social injustice done to us
Stripes -39 for Jewish law and many more to end the controversy between the two men (Jew/Gentile, inward man/outward man, healing in physical body
Crown of thorns - back~to redeem us from what is behind, front - the inability to face life, left - from the judgment of the goats, right - message of grace (5 no's of Romans 8)
---Linda on 6/14/10

Rob, this is exactly WOF teaching.
---kathr4453 on 6/23/10

Linda, allow me to ask you a very simple question.

Are you, or are you not of the WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT?
---Rob on 6/23/10

//They claim they are gods//

Rob, much of what you accuse us of saying is what you have heard other WOF people say and you have lumped us into that category. I never said I was a god. As a matter of fact I said, "They that are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." That doesn't sound the same. What I said is in Scripture. It is written.
---Linda on 6/23/10

Donna, what you wrote on 6/22/10 is true and is a common teaching of the WOF.

They claim they are gods, they can speak things into existence, and they are not subject to GOD because GOD is subject to them and their bidding.

These things are some of the attributes of SATAN and why SATAN was cast from HEAVEN.
---Rob on 6/23/10


what i meant was abraham didn't stay during the famine & relied on god but moved on. why didn't he ask god to stop the famine or drought but made his OWN decision & took action to move on to egypt? does that mean he lack faith bec. he did not pray to god -'stop the famine & I will stay here in bethel bec i trust you'. but he did not. he used his own understanding that if he stayed there he will die of starvation.
my own experience is believing & trusting malachi(word of god), I hear from pastors to give & god will bless you (faith). but later on I missed many blessings not bec of lack of faith but proverbs & eccl said sharpen your skills & work hard.' (my own understanding). that is not wrong
---mike on 6/23/10

//what WERE your motives for comparing yourself to Jesus and me to Satan?//

No different than Jesus' was when he said to Peter, "Get thee behind me Satan." Peter had a tremendous revelation of who Jesus was but had no idea of what He came to do. Whether you believe it or not, healing still remains in the atonement. He redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us. Go to Deuteronomy 28:16 through the end of the chapter. The curse of the law is listed. And just in case someone should come along and say, "So and so disease isn't listed", God made sure it was covered in that last verse.
---Linda on 6/23/10

//Unlike Satan, I DO Believe Jesus is the Son of God//

So does Satan.

Mark 5:7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

8For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God, thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

If the unclean spirit calls Him by name and the devils believe and tremble, you can be assured their master knows who He is. What is sad is that the enemy knows better than some believers what Jesus did in those three days and nights.
---Linda on 6/23/10

Here we have Linda saying that God wants everyone to be healed. Well, He must not be God if He cannot get what He wants. Oh, I forgot, man is stopping Him. Man, a sinful creature to begin, who has authority over God. Almight God at that. They say they do not control God, but with their prayers they say they do, because God gave them that authority. The question of whether Jesus can still heal is true, He can do whatever He wants. But mark this, this is very important, "there is no healing ministry that Jesus can do now that can prove that He is the Messiah" Because there is no way that even if He does heal somebody, that it is necessary to connect that with Him. He is not present (in Person).
---Mark_V. on 6/23/10

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Linda -- Sorry for tempting you to "impure motives"? By the way, what WERE your motives for comparing yourself to Jesus and me to Satan?
(never mind, I don't really take offense)

Unlike Satan, I DO Believe Jesus is the Son of God ....but I'm not sure about YOU ..when you claim powers such as being able to dictate the weather... It just sounds a little presumptious to me.

Rom 11:33-34 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

A doctrine that makes God incapable of acting on His own, bothers me.
---Donna66 on 6/22/10

Mike, you said,
"'those who are genuine Christians who really put God first, in their thinking in all decisions they make. We can do nothing without Him"
Your statement is true. All genuine Christians do try to put God first in everything. A few times they fail, but their practice is to do the will of God in everything pertaining to their lives. They know that without God we can do nothing, but many times they do things without God involve and they run into problems and come back to God and ask for forgiveness. I understand those things, but what is your point on Abraham not praying before he left? Are you saying he was doing the will of God, thats why he didn't pray? I think that is correct. He had great faith.
---Mark_V. on 6/22/10


'those who are genuine Christians who really put God first, in their thinking in all decisions they make. We can do nothing without Him'

why didn't abraham prayed when there was famine but he went to egypt instead?
when the 7 years of drought happened, jacob joseph's father send his sons to egypt to buy food?
---mike on 6/22/10

It is wonderful...and all my children have tremendous favor with God and with man. I believe and confess the Scripture, "All my children are taught of the Lord and great is the peace of them" and "My seed shall be known among the gentiles and my offspring among the people. All they that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the Lord has blessed." They enjoy things in grace I never got to because I was so legalistic in the past. I am so glad they are being raised in the finished work of Christ. By the way, I sent you a friend request on Facebook.
---Linda on 6/22/10

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Donna, there has been prayer offered up regarding both the floods and the oil leak. In case you don't remember, from the time Jesus cursed the fig tree until it completely manifested the death, it took three days and that was with Jesus. In between cursing the tree and seeing the manifestation, He cleansed the temple. Personally, I am asking Him to cleanse my temple of any impure motive. It is hard to have a pure motive in the face of people who are demanding that you prove who you are, just as you are here. In case you have forgotten, that was the temptation of the enemy when Jesus was in the wilderness. "If You be the Son of God, do something here or there...." Lord have mercy upon you for tempting me to sin in my motives.
---Linda on 6/22/10

Mike, I really don't know what you are getting at. I read and reread your answer and do not know how to respond to it because I do not know what you are trying to explain. Sorry. What is your point? That Abraham didn't have faith, that he did? Can you explain first with Abraham? I would like to answer you if you do not mind.
---Mark_V. on 6/22/10

I'm so glad about your son, Linda. That is fantastic!!! Thank You Jesus!!!

Isn't He Wonderful, Wonderful, Wonderful? Isn't Jesus our Lord Wonderful? Eyes have seen, ears have heard, it's recorded in God's Word, Isn't Jesus our Lord WONDERFUL???

Praise His Holy Name!!!
---fay on 6/22/10

Fay, I am glad you shared that about that lady. I too had a phone call from a very dear friend (actually she is a spiritual daughter I had mentored for years) who shared with me that the Lord healed her teeth over the weekend while she was listening to the Word of God being preached. I wept last night knowing that not even testimony is enough to drive out the unbelief found on this site. It is very much like the grieving process. However, I have much to rejoice over. My 8 year old son gave his heart to the Lord at church camp this past weekend and we got to see him baptized there on Saturday. God is good.
---Linda on 6/22/10

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since relying on god about the rain is an example donna66 gave, remember abraham? before abraham went to egypt there was a famine (caused by drought?). so does that mean he lacked faith? i bet abraham asked himself, 'what is my option?' go to egypt or stay here? if i stay here I will surely die. it did not say that abraham prayed.
remember the story of joseph. when the 7 years of drought & famine started, joseph's father jacob told his sons to go to egypt to buy food. same scenario
these are examples in the bible where they made decisions & took action. did they lack faith? is that relying on self or god?
are these challenges a push to take action?
---mike on 6/22/10

Linda, I was beginning to feel the same way, until meeting that lady today. It was such a turn of events that led her straight to where I was at that precise time. I was feeling so down trodden yesterday I didn't even go to church. later I asked the Lord why & it was revealed to me it was the unbelief on this site, so I was considering "shaking the dust from my feet." Until today. The Lord may allow me to shake the dust soon but until he tells me I can, I'll be here. My e-mail doesn't work on here anymore. Either someone hacked it or Christianet did it. Anyway, I would love to chat w/you. Go to FaceBook & search for Faye McGrady. We'll chat there.
---fay on 6/22/10

Yes, Linda, "the reception of healing" is more the proper term. Godspeed
---fay on 6/22/10

Fay, I would really appreciate getting to know you away from here. My pen pal id is linda9556. Even in the face of actual testimony, there is skepticism and doubt and all the adversarial temptation that comes with that. I no longer wish to stay in "this city". I am not at home here. The very same things that caused Jesus to marvel cause me to marvel here and the things that left no room for any notable miracles are what I find. Trav, StevenG, thanks for your encouragement. I really do appreciate it. Duane, keep preaching the gospel and trust God to breathe on the revelation He has put in you. Catherine, I pray your heart heals through the light of Jesus piercing the darkness. Grace and peace.
---Linda on 6/21/10

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Yes, Fay, I have. The Holy Spirit revealed to me that those fears hinder the reception of healing. Notice that I said "the reception of healing". God has already provided and given through the redemptive work of Christ. There is nothing wrong with the Giver or the receiver, but it is a reception problem, usually caused by the doctrines and traditions of men making the Word of God of none effect.
---Linda on 6/21/10

Yes, that's right Linda. There are many things that hinder our prayers. Have you ever prayed for someone to be healed & went into fasting & fervent prayer for them. Then found out they were afraid they would lose their Social Security if they were healed, so they didn't really want healed?
---fay on 6/21/10

Fay, I was ministering in Sunday School one morning when right in the middle of the lesson I stopped and said, "What is your motive for desiring the salvation of your spouse? Is it so that he can experience and enjoy the life of God Jesus died to give him or just so you are a little more comfortable being around him? If your request is selfish in nature, you are praying amiss." I had no clue why that came out of my mouth when it did, but after the service a lady, a good friend of mine, came up to me and said the Holy Spirit pricked her heart when she heard that. Both double-mindedness and praying amiss will hinder or even halt the manifestation thereof.
---Linda on 6/20/10

Linda--Do you think that during the recent floods that took 11 lives, NO Christian was praying with the right motive? Surly you would have the right "motive" if you prayed for the oil well in the gulf to stop leaking and the currents to take the leaked oil away from the fragile wetlands of LA.

So God gave you dominion. You said God would cause the rain, or prevent it, wherever you say. Please, you and fay, get busy and stop the oil leak and the ruination of aquatic wildlife...not to mention the lives of those who have lost their livlihood! Or have you not been concerned for those that suffer?
---Donna66 on 6/20/10

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Yes Linda, you are completely correct. It depends on the motive of the heart. Thank you for pointing that out.
---fay on 6/20/10

Amen Fay, taking into consideration praying amiss, of course.
---Linda on 6/20/10

Donna, God gave man dominion in the earth. In regards to the rain, I am reckoning it would depend on the motive of the heart. Do you want it to rain so farmers will have a harvest or do you want it to nport rain so you can go to the pool? Only one of those is selfless.
---Linda on 6/19/10

Donna, this is not God submitting to man. God has made His will regarding life and death known. He said, "Choose life". The Kingdom of God has a dominion. Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords. Who are the kings? Who re the lords? It is those who represent Him in the earth. Submitting to God has to do with knowing His will for man and releasing His life....or did you forget about the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ? Or Genesis for that matter where God blessed man and said unto him, "Be fruitful and multiply, replenish the earth, subdue and have dominion." Adam fell, Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. After going through the flood, God again said, "Have dominion." He's serious.
---Linda on 6/19/10

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In answer to the question about one person praying for rain & the other for it not to rain. Almighty God would answer both prayers. He would make it rain on the man who asked for rain and He would hold the rain back from the one who didn't want it, even if they were neighbors. And if you think he can't do that then you are limiting our Almighty Sovereign God.
---fay on 6/20/10

Linda --It's hard to believe because it isn't true.

If you "release" God to bring rain, and I "release" God to hold it back...what happens? I either will rain or it will not. Depends on God's will does it not?

You say:
death in man, marriages, relationships, etc. it is not because He wants it like that. It is because no one will release Him in the earth through the words of their mouth.
IS HE GOD OR NOT? Poor God, He doesn't want any of these things but He has to subject Himself to the "words" of man, whom He created?

Silly me, I read the Bible and get the impression WE are to submit to GOD, not the other was around.
---Donna66 on 6/19/10

//All matters of weather, or seasons are controlled by Him. We can plant and wait for it to rain.... //

Really? Elijah was a man like us who prayed fervently for rain and it rained until he prayed for it to stop. God was ready for rain to be released but it wasn't until a man prayed and released His will in earth that it took place. God gave man dominion in the earth and He swore to His own hurt. Even though it hurts Him that there is death in man, marriages, relationships, etc. it is not because He wants it like that. It is because no one will release Him in the earth through the words of their mouth. Adam gave dominion to the adversary. Jesus took it back and gave it to His people in the earth. Why is it so hard to believe that?
---Linda on 6/18/10

Mike -- Surely, you don't think that everybody who has signs or placards about GOD is a Christian!

If they are Christians, the plaque or sign may remind them of something they think they need to work on. It's an aspiration, not a claim that that's the way they ARE.
---Donna66 on 6/18/10

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Mike, many can say they put God first but in their lives they put man first, I hear that all the time from others here. But what I believe Donna was talking about was about those who are genuine Christians who really put God first, in their thinking in all decisions they make. We can do nothing without Him. All matters of weather, or seasons are controlled by Him. We can plant and wait for it to rain, but if it doesn't no crops will come. The person who is depending on God did not get the rain he needed yet continues to depend on God. He does not waver no matter the circumstances. Job was a good example and the reason his story is in Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 6/18/10

"But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." (1 Timothy 6:9-10)

So, the *desire* for being rich gets someone in trouble. You don't have to be rich, but just *desire* to be, and already you can be miserable, wishing for what you don't have, instead of enjoying God and being fulfilled in loving any and all people.

The real money is God's word that accomplishes all that God Himself desires to share with us (Isaiah 55:11).
---Bill_bila5659 on 6/18/10

to tom2

how is persecution related to stewardship?
my statement is related to what you said to 'put god first' so I gave you an ex. of my co worker who put signs about putting god first but chats, emails, wastes co. time, text, late, does not abide by co. rules.
if you are really loving god & putting him first, then she should be showing an example. my other co worker made that observation that having signs about putting god first yet is not showing the example of working hard.
am i being persecuted? no.
does she dispise us? no. she dispise the work. she says 'i just want to get paid'
is that love of money+laziness=selfishness?
that is what you call selfish love of self
---mike on 6/17/10


well, those who teach the bible don't properly teach & give specify & proper examples.
even christ encountered that problem. remember the issue of sabbath.
pharisees will accuse christ of sabbath breaking but christ gave reasons for exceptions why he healed on a sabbath.

that is why christ said about careful of the 'yeast of the pharisees.'
and this example about pharisees' wrong teaching people will have lack of faith.
---mike on 6/17/10

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Relying on God to plant the seed accomplishes nothing.

there are teachers who are like that. like the prosperity teachers that faith is based on malachi. my statement of 'sitting down' is an example of messages that are not properly given.
mostly is more money = great faith
poor = less faith

they can teach is like this

money is neutral we can use it for good or bad. it can be acquired through hard work,not malachi
(which is our part to do). ex. parable of stewards
when we work, first we develop skills
you reap what you sow
but most teachings are vague result is confusion.
---mike on 6/17/10

"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul". It's in there somewhere. Hallelujah. Thank You Jesus++
---catherine on 6/17/10

Brilliant Donna. I have seen it written- Call on God but row away from the rocks.
---Warwick on 6/17/10

remember jesus also told us to love our enemies,pray for those who despitefully use us and persecute us.WOW that would ,or will take some effort wont it?
---tom2 on 6/17/10

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Mike-- I know this really bothers you ...
"self reliance is wrong & you should have god reliance."

If you think "god reliance" means do nothing, you are mistaken and so are those that give you this impression.
Your example of the farmer is a good one. He knows that he will have NO crop if he doesn't work the land and plant the seed.
In that he is self reliant. But nothing he does will bring the rains and sunshine at just the right time or prevent a damaging freeze. In this he must rely on God.

Most of life is like that. Relying on God to plant the seed accomplishes nothing. Stessing out over things we can't control (i.e. the harvest) is a waste of energy and a lack of faith in God.
---Donna66 on 6/16/10

Think about all those people who were once rich, and then one day were bankrupt.

rich is a term for people who live beyond their means - appear rich living a lie maxed out in mortgages loans and credit to keep up their BORROWED lifestyle

these are the "rich" people who go bankrupt the ones who are owned ....scripture WARNS to be financial head NOT the tail

true wealth is earned I know many living without any debt owning their homes cars and everything - wealth = not owned by banks

ministers promote big lie people with money are rich and evil ...which is why so many remain poor expecting handout IRONICALLY from the evil rich people who are condemned by their ministers
---Rhonda on 6/16/10


here are the problems why
1. we are told to obey. the teaching mostly is vague & weak. if we don't obey THEIR teachings we are called rebellious.
2. if we try to ask a question, they say that we 'lack faith' or if we don't agree with them 'we are called cafeteria christians

we fail or miss the bless not bec. of disobedience but bec. of proper or right teachings. my personal ex. is the bondage of malachi & self confidence.
---jim on 6/16/10

aka joseph

right on about your faith is based on how much money you have. I heard/saw on 0700 club saying that they're blessed & you see below the screen money just passing by. if you're poor you have sin or lack of faith.

many times you hear televangelist/pastors say self reliance is wrong & you should have god reliance. well, if you're a farmer do you just sit down, wait for god to plant the crops? no. farmers till the soil, plant the seed & water it. the bible instructs US (plural for self=persons) to take action like work, sharpen our skills & be responsible with it. in genesis adam was told that you will toil for food. ruth gleaned the fields, & many people in the bible practice the word WORK.
---mike on 6/16/10

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I don't see any difference between the FALSE TEACHERS of The WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT, and Jim Jones and David Keresh.

They all use the subtle tactics of brainwashing, hypnosis, and trances to get people to do what they want them to do.

I try to educate others in what to look for. These tactics are so very plain to those who know what to look and listen for, but they are also so very subtle, most people miss them all.
---Rob on 6/16/10


we also have to be responsible about our life. there those who 'love god with all their heart' etc but they are on welfare, thinking that being on welfare is 'god will provide' mentality & i have a co worker who profess 'putting god first' but is late, lazy, selfish(chatting, texting, facebooking)wasting company time.??

the parable of the talents/stewards is biblical & there are those who are wealthy but still are humble. I am impressed with those who have impairments but still are able to work.
---mike on 6/16/10

we are commanded to love God with all our hearts,all our minds,and all our strength,and love our neighbors as ourselves,of course we love our brothers and sisters,and our children,But love of this life will lead to death. As usual the human race has the wrong idea about what wealth is,christ was the wealthiest man who ever lived,yet he had no place to lay his head.The issue is money is and can be a temptation that leads astray those who allow it to
---tom2 on 6/16/10

hey guys,the bible clearly states that if you love this life,then you will loose life. Even if you do have lots of money,that doesn,t make you wealthy,and if you are poor living in the streets you can be the wealthiest person on the planet. Our reward is not in this life,its not in this world,jesus clearly stated he who would be first must be last,a servant to all.jesus told pilate,my kingdom is not of this world,God knows what you need,JESUS,whether you believe it or not thats all you really need.
---tom2 on 6/16/10

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larry, I had a version of the Tanakh (Jewish Scripture)

This version included "They say" to "A feast is made for laughter, and wine makes merry: but money answers all things."

"They" refer to to those in the previous verse which says, "By much slothfulness the building decays, and through idleness of the hands the house drops through."

This gives support to those who do not properly maintain say, "money answers all things".

It is interesting that nowadays, even in the modern Tanakh, that those words are omitted, which lead to misuse by charlatans.

(PS Since I cannot find my copy, I have no witness, but by God above. If anyone can verify, please do.)
---aka.joseph on 6/16/10

Chuck, its hard to improve on Donna66 and yes of course anything in the Bible is true.
Another misused scripture by a former charlatan I had as a pastor is Ecclesiates 10:19 "money answers all things."

Donna66 is right on that its so difficult to be wealthy and holy that men should not seek wealth but holiness.

Genesis 6:5 about says it all..
Then the LORD[b] saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Those words "every, only and continually are really indicting. God bless.
---larry on 6/15/10

When compared to what 1 Timothy 6:10 says the statement is untrue. The verse says "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil." This is saying that the love of money itself leads to sin, but obviously not all sin.

I believe Timothy is not speaking about those who are succesful and have financial riches, but about those who are obsessed with money, with gaining it (by any means), and with selfishly hanging on to it.

I have yet to see poverty as an uplifting condition.
---Warwick on 6/15/10

It seems to be a common trait of humans that no matter what they have, it is never enough.
The wealthy almost always want more. Others are sure their troubles would go, if only they had more money. Both can be guilty of "greed". The "Word of Faith" movement manipulates them both.

One scripture such a "ministry" will never teach is:
1Ti 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.

I like what a wise man wrote in Proverbs:
Pro 30:8 Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches, feed me with food convenient for me:
Pro 30:9 Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain.
---Donna66 on 6/15/10

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Jessica, your answer is also very true, that when people have a lot of money and they go bankrupt some kill themselves. They do not know how to live poor. Yet all the poor and middle class people talk about money, we all would like to have a little of it. We can always find something to use it for.
---Mark_V. on 6/15/10

Aka, that is so true. They play with your faith. If you don't give, you have no faith. And what you said about planting the seed, that one is also very true. They put a guilt trip on people, a conviction, as if coming from God only its coming from them. I remember one story about Benny Hinn, where he told this people from the state of Washington who had a son who was dying that if they gave all they had, it would show their faith and the kid would live, and they only gave 10,000 and the kid died. They were told the boy died for their lack of faith. Like the story of Annanias and Sapphira they didn't give all they had and kept the rest and look what happened to them. It was on a story done by a netword on false teachers.
---Mark_V. on 6/15/10

I think it is true. But I also believe that being rich, unless you use it wisely (not just for yourself/ your family) can be a problem as well. Think about all those people who were once rich, and then one day were bankrupt.
---Jessica on 6/15/10

You have some verses in Proverbs or another place, in the Bible that say "Do not try to be rich. Lean not on your own wisdom."
---amand6348 on 6/15/10

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The underlying danger is that they make a direct correlation between you faith and your finances. The message is: If you have money, you obviously have faith. Now, if you do not have money, you don't have enough faith. So, if you 'plant a seed of faith' (by sending us your money), it will grow and be returned to you. (Also, this is common to faith healing.) So, this reasoning really works by playing on guilt not true faith.
---aka.joseph on 6/15/10

rob / mark

what sad is this many people who want to believe & obey end up obeying the wrong teachings. then they become in bondage. some are in denial.

this is another statement they add so to reinforce the teaching 'are you calling god a liar'.

i was in bondage for a long time with that malachi teaching until proverbs/eccl pointed to hard work & skills. still many follow these preachers.
also it is up to the individual (self=person) whether to accept other teaching of not. but rejecting a wrong teaching does not make you arrogant or a cafetria christian but simply exercising wisdom.
---mike on 6/15/10

Mike/Rob, both of you are so right. So many people are deceived by the Word of faith teachers. They come out with some of the most rediculous comments and they all lead to an agenda they have. I read where most of them, if not all, come from the same school. Learn the same tactics and they do make a lot of money. I use to get a penny from Robert Tittleton, I think that was his name. He gave a penny so that you would give your prayer with a check. And some TV announcers found the prayers people send on the trash of course the money was not there. None were ever read, and all the money they gave they kept. Fallen man always looking to swindle others. They went to a school to learn how to do it and get away with it.
---Mark_V. on 6/15/10

Mike, that is why I warn people to stay away from the FALSE TEACHERS OF THE WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT. All they talk about is money and becoming rich.

They tell people if they want to receive a blessing from GOD people must send money to their ministry. They never, ever share what is written in Acts 8:20-23, and they never, ever talk about SALVATION!
---Rob on 6/14/10

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Men of God is to follow after righteousness and not the things of this world. When you are on your death-bed you will not be asking about your bank book. You will not care about your credit rating. All these things can keep you in bondage. Keep you awake at night. People of God be happy, God has found something in you worth saving.
---catherine on 6/14/10

Yes, it's truth, because the Bible said: People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunges men into ruin and destruction. 1 Timothy 6:9
---Kimbe7395 on 6/14/10

in the book of proverbs it talks about a farmer & it says that he who works his field will have abundant food.

and in eccl 10:10

sharpen your skills &
you will succeed

when you combine these 2 that you put your skills into work & you work hard
what you sow is what you reap

wealth can be a result of 2 things
putting your skills & working hard
corruption, greed, drugs, sex, EXPLOITATION OF MALACHI 3:10 used by prosperity preachers
hinn, copeland, pat robertson, roberts, dollar, meyer,

illegal acquisition of money which is the LOVE OF MONEY.
---mike on 6/14/10

Yes, the statement is true. it's the LOVE of money that's the root of all evil.

Plus it all belongs to God anyway. "The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof." Amen?
---Donna5535 on 6/14/10

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As long as the wealth is used for the work of God.

The wealthy & other people that are stingy & don't use it for the work of God, what are they going to think when that time comes when your money is thrown out in the streets & has No more value?
---Lawrence on 6/14/10

Just because someone who has "erred from the faith" does not mean that they have lost there salvation. Mat 7:22-23 There were many who had 'faith' (although misguided) and they were no allowed to hang around. You do not receive salvation until you enter.
---aka.joseph on 6/13/10

Money is just one of the tools we use as we pass through this world. IT HAS NO VALUE TO US!
---John on 6/14/10

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