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Ontario Canada Earthquake

Ontario, Canada just had an earthquake 6/23/10 3:00pm eastern United States time. They are saying it's being felt in Michigan, New Jersey, New York and Ohio. Do you think we are in the end times and the beginning of the tribulation NOW? or not yet?

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We have to know that we are very close, by all that is happening in the world. We are having one disaster right after another. Jesus gave us the signs in his word, to look for, and they are all around us. Now is the time to get your house in order, in preparation for what is to come. Stay in faith, stay close to Jesus, learn to lean on him with all your heart, mind, soul and strength. Love your neighbor as yourself. Offer a hand whereever it is needed. Forgive those who transgress against you. Love God with all your heart.
---Gayla on 7/4/10

"God left evidence of His creation."---Jerry.

Prove your own assertions, and start with that one. Leave me out of it. If you can't do it by yourself, you can't do it.
---atheist on 7/3/10

in the past 100 years there have been 9 earthquakes in Canada

what people here TODAY are saying is no different than what people said 100 years ago when the first earthquake happened ...the end is here

although "the last days are here" has been some drum beat of some fanatical christian for every year since Christs death reality is the last days BEGAN at Christs death

there is a reason Christ WARNED to not worry ourselves over his return ...if you are not worrying over his return than you are not spreading fear and hype that the times of sorrow are here like every generation before
---Rhonda on 7/3/10

\\4000 yrs had past before Christ was born (4 days)\\

4000 years had passed from what?

Are you basing what you're saying on the chronology of Abp. Ussher?
---Cluny on 7/3/10

sandr4873.....I love it when a false prophets make such a blatant "prophesy" as you just did about Elian Gonzalez. Do you even know who he is??????

These kinds of dates are an example of a cult in full force. I just haven't figured out which one it is yet. Anyone have a clue?
---KarenD on 7/2/10

Pardon me Clunny.
4000 yrs had past before Christ was born (4 days)

And Moderator,
Please read 2Peter 3...and pray the Holy Spirit give you the discernment to see the truth concerning the last day we are living in.

Prophecy for His 1st coming was the countdown of Daniel's 70 wks prophecy (but 69wks would be fulfill before his death) Dan 9:24-26.

Prophecy for His 2nd coming is the "fig tree" (the rebirth of Israel in 1948), Matt 24:32-34)

Hope this helps.

Also read Matt 16:1-3
---sandr4873 on 7/2/10

The first thing that set me on a crash course with The Almighty was one particular thought, which then gave rise to another and so on and so forth. It kept me up at night and in the end, I couldn't escape its power.

I knew: Since eternity travels in both directions and in knowing that each moment in time is equal to another in measure and in substance, SOMETHING happened at a particular time that forever changed the status quo.

Because time and space have no abilities on their own, SOMETHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY occurred, an ANOMALY OF MIND-BOGGLING MAGNITUDE, which, in theory, should not even exist, but CHANGED EVERYTHING IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE! Inevitably, the trail led me to The Almighty.
---Higgins on 7/2/10

'atheist': You can't seem to focus, can you? You keep avoiding the core issues. Is it because you are trying to silence the still, small voice that the Holy Spirit keeps whispering to your conscience - saying "You might be wrong"? Be a man! Give rational answers to my assertions, rather than cowering behind a cloud of obfuscation.
---jerry6593 on 7/2/10

\\4000 yrs past when Christ was born (4 days)\\

Jesus Christ was born some 2000 years ago, not 4000.

Where did you get that idea?
---Cluny on 7/2/10

Sand, who are you following that is giving you that goofy interpretation of the Bible? Just curious as I thought I have heard just about everything by now.
---Moderator on 7/1/10

Higgins and Moderator...
Time is near, we are the last generation whether you believe or not and when you finally realizes this it may be too late for you to be taken up in heaven before the wrath of satan & the antichrist this individual Elian Gonzalez to rise on the global scene soon.

4000 yrs past when Christ was born (4 days)
2000 yrs nearly past since Christ died (2 days)
1000 yrs we rest with Christ in true peace & harmony read Isaih 11 & Rev 20. This equals total of 7 days in which our world was recreated and God rested

We are nearing the end of 6000 yrs or 6 days which will end around 2032-33 bec it's exactly 2000yrs from Christ death 32-33ad.

Matt 16:1 discern the times.
---sandr4873 on 7/1/10

atheist....I was thinking today that if we die and there is nothing after that, then I have lost nothing because of my faith in Jesus Christ and a living God. I have lived a happy, content life knowing that I have served that living God and know that I have a place in Heaven with the Lord. If I am right, you will be suffering a horrendous afterlife. I believe the Bible is the Word of God and I stand on that!
---KarenD on 7/1/10

Let me point out to everyone, there were atheists and atheism millenia before Darwin or anything approaching evolutionary theory. My request to Jerry is simply to substantiate his statement: "God left evidence of His creation."

Proof of "A" cannot be done by pretending to disprove "B". Or challenging me to prove "B".

Jerry, I am not the one doing the blathering....
---atheist on 7/1/10

My fear in engaging in the creation debate is that opponents to creationism don't know enough about the issue to make it interesting for me. I'll admit to getting bored and doubt anyone can offer much of a challenge.

I have studied this arena for 30 years now and all I hear is the same old dribble reconstituted from one lazy proponent of evolution to another, just like I hear the same bad jokes circulating around my son's junior high school, which I told many years before.

Professors only know what their mentors taught them, but none of them did the work themselves - they instead repeat the same old diatribe from one academic generation to the next, therefore the status quo in universities never change.
---Higgins on 7/1/10

"God left evidence of His creation."---Jerry.

That is the subject. I have talked about nothing else. In fact I don't intend to talk about it, nor have I talked about it. It's your premise. You support it. You do the explaining. Its's that simple. Comments from me should be unnecessary.
Can't do it, can you?

One more chance indeed!?
---atheist on 7/1/10


Jerry wrote that god left evidence of his creation. I am simply asking that he show his evidence, in a scientific manner, since he always claims expertise in that arena when denigrating evolutionary theory and any science that is contrary to his beliefs.

I agree that belief in god as a creator is a matter of faith. That god could be the flying sphagetti monster god, or 47 other gods working together or against each other with the same result. You can believe anything.

Contrary to what some here demand I do not need to know or explain everything or anything. There is a lot not to know. But not knowing does not prove god...
---atheist on 7/1/10

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'atheist': I was right! all you have is irrelevant blather. I'll give you just one more chance to regain some credibility. Now try very hard to focus on the subjects below and respond directly to them, rather than ranting about something else.

Geologic catastrophism is evidence of the Noahic flood.

The Cambrian Explosion and Polonium 210 haloes are evidence of fiat creation.

Abiogenesis is impossible by naturalistic processes, but is consistent as evidence of God's creative power.
---jerry6593 on 7/1/10

Evolution is only supported by beliefs as well.
How hypocritical to demand proof of anything taken by faith.
This is true on both sides of any debate.
Facts are facts, theories are theories, either side can show evidence to support their theory. It does not make it fact any more than disbelieving it makes it fiction.
There are truths out there that have yet to be discovered by man, in them will show what is.
I believe the Bible is true as is the Living God who guided those who wrote it.
My faith is in my Saviour, Lord, and King, Christ Jesus who God resurrected from the dead as is witnessed and documented by many believers and unbelievers alike. This is one of the best supports for the True God.
---micha9344 on 6/30/10

"God left evidence of His creation."---Jerry.

Again: That is the statement you are trying to support. To substantiate it, you must prove the existence of God, define 'his creation',and show evidence that he is responsible for his creation.

Let's have the evidence Jerry. Explain, for example how god spoke creation into existence and show evidence of how that process worked.

You can't prove your statement by asking me questions that I do or don't answer to your satisfaction.

Explain yourself. You made a statement. Prove it.
---atheist on 6/30/10

Dear Sandra4873:

The Book of Revelation was not written by John in A.D. 90, it was written in about 60-65 A.D.

If memory serves, Peter and Paul were both killed in 66 A.D. under Nero, so Revelation must have been written before that, because (1) there is no mention of Jerusalem having already been destroyed, and (2) there was no mention of Peter and Paul's deaths.

The only historical reference to Revelation being written during the reign of Nerva was by Origen some 120 years after the fact. He said that John was imprisoned on Patmos for one year by Domician and freed under Nerva. Readers assume John was never on Patmos 30 years before his incarceration in A.D. 96 and historians simply took Origen's word for it.
---Higgins on 6/30/10

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larry: Huh?

'atheist': I try to engage you in an honest exchange of ideas concerning historical geology, and all you can respond with is "blah, blah, irrelevant blather, blah, blah, blah ....

My assertion: The geological record shows evidence of the accuracy of the biblical record, since it reveals catastrophism rather than evolutionary uniformitarianism.

Do you have a cogent response, or just more blather? Show us again how rational atheists are.
---jerry6593 on 6/30/10

Things came to pass in 70 AD which was their generation.
---Moderator on 6/29/10

Hi respond to your reply
"It is unlikely the Book of Revelation was written in 90 AD. More likely to be around 60 AD. Since Darby things have been changed around to match his false theology."

Darby is not God...therefore I take this as grain of salt. But what is God, Jesus wrote "this generation shall not pass till all these things occur", Matt 24:34. A generation is not 10 yrs (60ad-70ad) it's at least 70-80yrs, Ps 90:10. Therefore every event mentioned in Matt 24 & all of Revelation will happen within 80yrs or so. Immediately after this generation, after he cast the antichrist & false prophet in lake of fire, he will take over in the next 1000yrs (or 7th day), Rev 21-20.
---sandr4873 on 6/29/10

Larry: Atheist is one of God's children - Jerry6593.

Jerry, no one comes to the Son unless the Father sends him so we pray for the hardened heart, for after a season there is only rebuke and we move our physical attempts elsewhere as instructed and pray to bind the enemy.
Christ never argued anyone into salvation.
Just look at your series of exchanges on this one subject my dear brother..remind you of anything?

Answer: "Garden of Gethsemene." Question, doubt, question, doubt, question, doubt.
Save your keystrokes and hit your knees in prayer.
---larry on 6/29/10

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Jerry, always plays logician/ scientist, as he does below, from where I took the quote.

I understand that ultimately belief in a god or gods is solely a matter of faith, and I have said I understand the comfort that people find in that belief .

But if Jerry says there is evidence, then I say show me.

The wonderment you infer to god, I too see, but would never attribute to god, since that word is not only taken, but taken to mean so many things and used and misused for so many reasons as to have no real meaning. How many people have gone to war with each other, believing not only that god is on their side but wants them to fight and kill the other?

The wonderment of nature---that's another matter.
---atheist on 6/29/10

\\Let have the evidence Jerry.\\

I think your comment about evidence for a Creator was intended for another blog, atheist, but in case it wasn't:

I guess it depends on your point of view. To me, especially when I see a science program depicting the beautiful wheeling galaxies, I see the footprints of God (if you don't mind my waxing poetic).

But maybe you're using the wrong methodology. How can you "prove" a Beethoven symphony or Shakespearean sonnet, or beautiful classical sculpture by the scientific method?

How can you PROVE scientifically how and why they move and speak to the hearts of people (though admittedly not all)?
---Cluny on 6/29/10

"God left evidence of His creation."---Jerry.

Let have the evidence Jerry. Why are you asking me questions? You have made a claim---now prove it.
---atheist on 6/29/10

I've heard that the Gospel according to St. John was written in 90 AD and his letters and Revelation before that--not that it really matters in the long run.

||If you are caught up in the rapture Rev chpts 4-19 we will witnessed from heaven like John did Rev 4:1. Amen||

There's no such thing as a pre-trib rapture. Those looking for it will be among the first to fall down and worship Anti-Christ.
---Cluny on 6/29/10

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peter: I'll gladly discuss CO2 offline via PenPal with you, but it will take too much space here. First, do you understand the basic physics of the greenhouse effect? Look to scientific sources rather than political ones.
---jerry6593 on 6/29/10

'atheist': I said it was a "start." That usually implies there is more coming.

Consider the geology of the earth in general, and the fossil layers in particular. In your opinion, does this geology imply uniformitarianism, the gradualism required for long age evolution, or does it imply catastrophism, as one would expect from continental breakup and a universal flood. Please give YOUR OWN rationale for your opinion.
---jerry6593 on 6/29/10

It is unlikely the Book of Revelation was written in 90 AD. More likely to be around 60 AD. Since Darby things have been changed around to match his false theology.
---Moderator on 6/28/10

People it's really simple...the rebirth of Israel in 1948 is the key! Israel was destroyed in 70ad and 20 years later the book of Revelation was written by John (90ad).

Therefore everything John mentioned in the 22 books of Rev couldn't be relevant without Israel, do you agree?

This is what make this generation so unique, generations between 90ad-1947 do not count, agree?

WE ARE IT!...The final generation to see everthing mentioned in Rev & Matt 24 up to Christ return. If you are caught up in the rapture Rev chpts 4-19 we will witnessed from heaven like John did Rev 4:1. Amen
---Sandr4873 on 6/28/10

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\\He is going to send the wicked man to HELL! Not just one or two, ||

As Jesus Christ Himself, said, out of your own mouth will you be condemned, and out of your own mouth will you be justified.

\\He is going to send the wicked man to HELL! Not just one or two, biut most
---catherine on 6/28/10||

Are you saying that you think you'll be among the few of the wicked that escape hell, catherine?
---Cluny on 6/28/10


2 Peter 3:9: (see also 1 John 4:10 and the ubiquitous John 3:16):
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

God does not want the wicked to perish. He went to great lengths to try to prevent this. On the other hand, Satan rejoices whenever wicked people die, because they are indications of his success. So you have to ask yourself - Do you rejoice when the wicked perish, or do you weep? Because that indicates whose agenda you are following.
---StrongAxe on 6/28/10

In the first place I am not God. If you, however, believes that God, the living God, is looking down upon the wicked man with love, joy, peace, tenderness, winking, think again. He is going to send the wicked man to HELL! Not just one or two, biut most
---catherine on 6/28/10

\\I rather to hear from God in Scriptures in what He is going to do with wicked people in His judgments through storms. Haaaaaaaaa.\\

catherine, the real God says in the Scriptures that He takes NO pleasure in the death of the wicked.

Why do you rejoice in their destruction?

You would do better to look at what God's doing to do to everyone who thinks and loves lies, like you love your familiar spirit you call god.

And then repent.
---Cluny on 6/28/10

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StrongAxe>>>I rather to hear from God in Scriptures in what He is going to do with wicked people in His judgments through storms. Haaaaaaaaa.
---catherine on 6/28/10

"God left evidence of His creation."---Jerry.

That is the statement you are trying to support. To substantiate it, you must prove the existence of God, define 'his creation',and show evidence that he is responsible for his creation.

Quoting scripture and claiming that that particular quote has something to do with god's opinion of evolutionists, really does nothing to prove that statement.
---atheist on 6/28/10


While there may be no specific scripture saying storms are from natural causes, one may assume most things in nature are, by definition, from natural causes.

One can be pedantic and say "God controls nature, so all natural events are, in fact, supernatural events", but this makes "natural" and "supernatural" mean the same thing, and thus render these two words totally meaningless.

This would make it meaningless to talk about cause and effect: if you stand out in the rain, do you get wet because it rains, or because God supernaturally made you wet? Would this mean owning an umbrella is defying the will of God? Such thinking can lead to ludicrous conclusions such as this.
---StrongAxe on 6/28/10

\\Before you go a looking, God has told me, "to go back on this one and to tell you that He is in control of all weather and all storms".\\

No, the real God did not tell you that. Your familiar religious spirit did.

Are you DENYING that the real God works through natural processes that He Himself set up?

No, catherine, again you are not right.
---Cluny on 6/28/10

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jerry6593: Your comment about CO2 is possible, but very hard to verify from evidence that I can find

We may well have other things that change the world's climate, or it may have SOMETHING to do with CO2

As oyu write with great certainty, can you tell me your sources so I can check them?

---peter3594 on 6/28/10

Hello, Cuny! Could you please kindly show me a Scripture which says the storms and such are from natural causes? Before you go a looking, God has told me, "to go back on this one and to tell you that He is in control of all weather and all storms". Plus, I shall add tis>>>God is Creator of weather. Ofcourse, now, this includes storms, and this concludes this subject, cause, I know I am RIGHT!
---catherine on 6/27/10

"Jerry- dust off your feet, waste no more time with him and move back to the dialogue with the brethren of believers. Satan is trying to get his foot in the door, slam it shut."
---larry on 6/27/10

Larry: Atheist is one of God's children, too - just like you and me. He just doesn't realize it YET. I'm not going to give up on him as long as God hasn't. Have you been a parent with errant children? I have, and I'll never give up on them. I love them too much. So it is with God and the Atheist. While he's alive, there's hope for him. After that, well ......
---jerry6593 on 6/28/10

'atheist': OK, let's start with God's opinion of evolutionists.

Rom 1:19-23 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them, for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. PROFESSING THEMSELVES TO BE WISE, THEY BECAME FOOLS, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
---jerry6593 on 6/28/10

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\\The wicked man likes to call what only God can do as "mother nature". \\

Some things do have a natural cause, catherine. And it's not against faith to say that God works through natural processes He Himself set up.

||The Bible will tell you what it tis and what to do. Amen.
---catherine on 6/27/10\\

And because I read the Bible, catherine, and it disagrees with every thing this entity you call "god" tells you, I don't believe you hear from the real God.

If you'd read the Bible, you'd know this.
---Cluny on 6/27/10

Sister Donna66 is correct there are earthquakes
all the time, in fact after over 31-thousand in 2008, last year's total dropped drastically to under 15-thousand. This year we're on pace for about 17-thousand world wide.

Take the wing nuts and lefties out of the global warming argument and you have a 100% increase in the severity of hurricanes since the 70's, and yes 2005 was the hottest year on record but we've only been keeping records 150-years. Meanwhile the Southern hemisphere has actually been cooling over the last decade not warming.
Only a fool would argue against the facts showing warming of the Northern hemisphere , the question is why not the South and whether the phenomena NATURAL and CYCLICAL.
---larry on 6/27/10

Jerry- dust off your feet, waste no more time with him and move back to the dialogue with the brethren of believers. Satan is trying to get his foot in the door, slam it shut.
---larry on 6/27/10

Yes, well, the Bible uses earthquakes as a symbol of God's power. And Judgments. Read please>>Psa. 68:8...."The earth quaked, the heavens also dropped rain at the presence of God, Sinai itself quaked at the presence of God, the God of Israel"....The wicked man likes to call what only God can do as "mother nature". No matter what God does the wicked man will never give God the credit. They had rather sit around a long table scratching themselves silly, trying to figure out what it tis and, of course, what to do. Read also, Ezek. 30:19-23. The Bible will tell you what it tis and what to do. Amen.
---catherine on 6/27/10

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"God left evidence of His creation."---Jerry.

Let's see some rational thinking that proves this claim.

See if you can control yourself and stay on subject. Use your 125 words without digressing into emotional conservative natterings about liberals.
---atheist on 6/27/10

A: God left evidence of His creation. The only evidence for global warming is the hot air coming out of Al Gore and B. Hussein Obama's mouths. I notice that you emotion-based liberals always turn to government for salvation. Is Obama your 'god'?
---jerry6593 on 6/27/10


Like an invisible imaginary friend who spoke the world into existence and did it only in six days,---is rational.

Now that's a hoax!
---atheist on 6/26/10

A: Global warming is a man-caused HOAX - nothing more. CO2 is NOT an appreciable greenhouse gas. Anyone who knows anything about atmospheric infrared transmittance effects knows that. That's the problem with you liberals - you use your emotions instead of rational thinking.
---jerry6593 on 6/26/10

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How you play with words?

Everything thing was a 'natural' cause, and the activities of people are part of that.

People increase the the amount of carbon into the atomosphere and the is a natural result of the activities of people. The question is can we live with results of more carbon in the atomosphere in a existential sense, or should we change how our impact effects the environment.

Buy two fish bowls and two fish for each. Feed daily, keep one bowl inside and clean weekly. Keep the other bowl outside, do not clean it or add water. Get back to me on which bowl of fish survives.
---atheist on 6/26/10

Donna66 your wrong!!!

"||Do you feel the same way about all the global warming hype?"
---jerry6593 on 6/26/10||

jerry with the ice caps melting perhaps you might want to be a little more realistic.

---mima on 6/26/10

We have earthquakes all the time. It's not common in Ontario, but an earthquake there
doesn't signal anything about end times.
---Donna66 on 6/26/10

||Do you feel the same way about all the global warming hype?
---jerry6593 on 6/26/10||

I saw on some science show that global warming is happening on Mars.

And you don't have people there to blame it on.

Maybe there IS global warming--but it's part of a natural cycle.
---Cluny on 6/26/10

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'atheist': "It's just the natural change of seasons. No end of the world warning..."

Do you feel the same way about all the global warming hype?
---jerry6593 on 6/26/10

Cute atheist, cute. Actually everyone had cute responses to this blog. I would just like to add if you google eartquakes you can find the gov site where you find that earthquakes have been recorded since 1823, I think it is. So, it really is nothing new. However, I do not believe we have ever had so many so close together. There are many destructions going on right now & I believe it is cause to think. Notice I did not say cause to fear. We should never fear for God is with us wherever we are. If we are relying on Him for EVERYTHING now, we will find it easier to rely on him for EVERYTHING then.
---fay on 6/25/10

Cluny...Never noticed that before. Yes, I do remember what "assuming" is. Monsoon finally reached us today. Lots of beautiful rain and cool weather.
---KarenD on 6/25/10

+++**Cluny....I just never imagined you living in Arizona. Isn't it funny how we silly people assume stuff**

You know what they say about what you do to yourself when you assume.

In my city today it was 113 F--with a humidity of only 3%.
---Cluny on 6/24/10+++

I also meant to say that I've mentioned several times before I live in Arizona.
---Cluny on 6/25/10

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Atheist, 5.5 is a little more unsettling that a trash truck , but not "major".
I've lived in California (San Diego) Chula Vista to be exact and experienced their "quakes".You have 4 good seasons ,we have one--11 months of winter and one month of bad skiing!
Remember, the Lord makes it rain on the just and unjust!....The just get wetter 'cause the unjust steal the just's umbrellas!
---1st_cliff on 6/24/10

**Cluny....I just never imagined you living in Arizona. Isn't it funny how we silly people assume stuff**

You know what they say about what you do to yourself when you assume.

In my city today it was 113 F--with a humidity of only 3%.
---Cluny on 6/24/10

Cluny....I just never imagined you living in Arizona. Isn't it funny how we silly people assume stuff? I have never seen a summer when there was not a fire in the mountains. And, what's with all these people that think that only the things that are happening in the USA are part of Biblical prophecy?
---KarenD on 6/24/10

\\The Volcano erupting in Iceland and the fires in Arizona...doesn't any of this point to the beginning of the birth pangs of the Tribulation?
---Donna5535 on 6/23/10\\

No, Donna, it doesn't point to anything.

We get fires during the summer in Arizona every summer.

Furthermore, this is the monsoon season, where we get a lot of hot winds and lightning strikes.

The woods are dry because we get very little rain.

Why do you think it's called "the desert"?
---Cluny on 6/24/10

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I live in California. A 5.5 is only one order of magnitude larger than a trash truck driving by.

What are these people on about?

BTW in this state we have four seasons---earthquake, mudslide, windstorm, and firestorm. It's just the natural change of seasons. No end of the world warning...

In some places people claim it gets cold and snows, but I don't believe them.

But I do believe in hell on earth,---during the summers its just outside my door, unless there's a power failure, and then it's in my living room.
---atheist on 6/24/10

What will mark the beginning of the tribulation period? It's not earthquakes.

The Bible says that the first day of the tribulation period will be when the antichrist signs a peace agreement with Israel for seven years. He will break it midway through the accord. The Bible also states that the tribulation period will be comprised of two time sections of 1,260 days each (Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:21). All Bible believing scholars and ministers believe that time frame to be literal days opposed to figurative.

Therefore, the tribulation period has not begun and wont start until the man of sin (antichrist) is revealed (II Thessalonians 2:3).
---kathr4453 on 6/24/10

Moderator I totally agree with you. Jesus is coming back for a Bride without spot or wrinkle, right? So how do you propose we get ready for His coming? Isn't evangelism and winning souls to Christ a big part of our walk?

What about preparations to be His Bride, isn't there something we MUST be doing to prepare to be with Our King? Like Esther had to go through six or 12 (forget how long) months of preparation to go in to see the King. Don't we have to as Christians prepare for His coming instead of just living day by day as though it is our last day because that is hard to do. Don't ya think? I love your answer and I agree with it, just wanted to pick your brain some more. Tks!
---Donna5535 on 6/24/10

That was an excellent post moderator!

Especially pointing out the false teachings of John Darby. The father of the pre-trib heresy.
---John on 6/24/10

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I live in central Ontario ,the quake was 5.5 ,no damage or injury...we build buildings so they don't fall down!
---1st_cliff on 6/24/10

I believe that as Christians we should live each day the Lord has given us as though it is our last day. Research how the false teachings of Darby on the end times are totally different from how the Body of Christ has always interpreted end time scriptures. I just view it as another earthquake. Christians should focus on the Two Commandments Christ left us with and be obedient to our individual callings.
---Moderator on 6/23/10

If you want factual information here is the definitive source: National Earthquake Information Center - NEIC

Don't speculate actually learn something for a change.
---Friendly_Blogger on 6/23/10

NO. Your POV is too U.S.A.-centric particularly since the west is insignificant in end times scripture. Nothing happening here will tell you anything. I recommend you turn off Fox and read the Jerusalem Post online, Debkafile and maybe the English version of Der Speigel magazine.

Besides, Rhonda is right...we've been in the end times and last days since Christ's ascension.
---larry on 6/23/10

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Donna...Fire in Arizona are nothing new. We have them every summer when the grass gets dry. You just don't hear about them as much. It must be a slow news month for the media.
---KarenD on 6/23/10

The Last Days began with the Descent of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost, if the divinely-inspired interpretation of Joel given by St. Peter on that day means anything to people here.
---Cluny on 6/23/10

..doesn't any of this point to the beginning of the birth pangs of the Tribulation?

not at all

the birth pangs started when Christ was resurrected

the whole world has waited in anticipation of his return since his departure

only religious christianity has managed to take the accounts Christ warned in Holy Scripture and distort them to create a frenzy of he is here there and almost here

century after century EACH generation believed Christ was returning

1/3 of prophecy has not yet happened and without this it is impossible to usher in the times of sorrow

stop crying wolf like every generation prior
---Rhonda on 6/23/10

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