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Where Are Aborted Babies

My neighbor knocked the wind out of me. She said that God does not save aborted babies. When I asked her what she thinks happens to them, she had no response. What do you believe happens to aborted babies? I believe God has them with Him in heaven, do you believe that? If no, what do you believe?

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Eloy, I think you are wrong, but I will study on it more. And if I see in the word that I am wrong, I will be the first to admit it..Thanks!!
---a_friend on 7/14/10

The Lord does not tie Himself up in His own words,David wrote blessed is the man to whom God does not impute iniquity..yes sin is passed down from Adam and no God does not judge children as holy or unholy,He judges them as children.Why does fundamental legalism have to insult the intelligence so any good Calvinist would hopefully say:... "God is bigger!"
---richard on 7/15/10

Donna5535: The Bible says that you are wrong concerning King David. I gave the scriptures. Do you believe the word of Jesse Duplantis (whoever he is) over the Word of God?
---jerry6593 on 7/15/10

You must understand that SIN is what leads to death.
Scripture says that sin IS trangression of God's Law. The Bible says that sin is disobedience.
When you understand HOW sin is past down then you will understand what I am talking about.

There is no such thing as inherited sin.
Look at the scripture that tells us this.
Scripture says that each person is held accountable for their OWN sin not the sins of the parents.
Look at what said Jesus about the blind man.
The pharisees asked Jesus if he was that way because his parents sinned. Jesus said NO.
Unborn babies don't even have a chance to be disobedient.
What about children who only have one parent. Are they unsanctified?
---miche3754 on 7/15/10

a friend, children are still the parents children while still inside the womb, and the scripture makes no reference as to the age of the children in the verse, but the subject is holy offspring as compared to unholy offspring, and the parents sanctification determines whether their children are holy or unholy, not how old the children are or whether or not they have any thinking capacities of accountability.
---Eloy on 7/14/10

miche3754, you continue to post falsehood, and refuse to accept the truth documented in the Scriptures. I reiterate, Please Re-Read about the first parent's sin being passed onto their generated offspring- Romans 5:12,14,19+ I Corinthians 7:14.
---Eloy on 7/14/10

1Cor 15:21-22 For since by man [came] death, by man [came] also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Have these babies accepted Christ since you don't believe they are covered by their parents mima?
These babies have died like Adam and the rest throughout the eons, haven't they?
---micha9344 on 7/14/10

a friend, I'm sorry, I did not give you the right book, I was reading the same comments in Matthew 18:3-5, concerning the children. Same quotes found in Luke 18:14-17. My answer was still the same. The same incident and almost the same words. Luke heard it from someone else though, but what he heard and wrote, was almost the same. Just different writer. The picture Jesus was trying to show was that children are not like adults who carry a lot of bad baggage, who are prideful, and proud, children on the other hand are very humbled and dependent on other, not prideul like adults. But in no way does it state they were sinless, or didn't have an inherit sinful disposition.
---Mark_V. on 7/14/10

Eloy, where does the Bible say that ther is such a thing a Sin gene?

I can't believe that you all thinkbabies are sinful like we are?
God is a just God and he is not going to hold unborn baies accountable for the sins of their parents.
And Babies do not sin!

You have sin, babies don't
---miche3754 on 7/14/10

Mark_V., Luke 18:3-5. Luke 18:3 And there was a widow in that city, and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.
Luke 18:4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man,
Luke 18:5 Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me. Seeing what you mean..she is like a child that is asking over and over..Is that what you mean? Makes since!
---a_friend on 7/14/10

If you are a Calvinist, then you must believe that babies who are aborted (or die as infants) are not part of the "the elect" since they had no chance of hearing the gospel, so they go to hell.

If you are an Arminian, they you must believe that aborted babies had no chance to exercise their free will to accept Jesus, so they go to hell.

This is why abortion is such an evil sin, a person selfishness and greed is is preventing another person from the chance of eternal life.
---Frank_Jr on 7/14/10

Eloy, 1 Corinthians 7:14 is basically saying that the unbelieving husband/wife and the children will come to believe or may come to believe. It does not say anything about a baby who died at birth or a child who did not live to the age of accountability.
---a_friend on 7/14/10

a-friend, I believe you were speaking of Luke 18:3-5. Which speaks about little children. It is not saying that little children or innocent, or that they do not have sin, what Jesus is saying is that like the Beatitudes, it pictures faith as the simple, helpless, trusting dependence of those who have no resources of their own. Like children, they have no achievements and no accomplishments to offer or comment themselves with. "Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven" That is why a proud heart will continue to hold on to something of himself he thinks is worth salvation. Something good in him. God ask for a different kind of heart, one like a child.
---Mark_V. on 7/14/10

1 Cliff is correct, it's our basic fundamentals. Everyone needs Christ in order to be saved. No one is born without inherit sin. The curse has made everyone guilty. By one man Adam. It is not the breaking of the law that makes babies guilty, it is that they are born sinful. Jack B said,
"Even in the New Testament it states that before the law was given there was sin in the world, (HUGE "but" here) BUT, sin is not imputed where there is no law !!!!" The passage states there was sin in the world, even when there was no law, which means that even though there was no law, physical death is the penalty of sin. Death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned before the law was given.
---Mark_V. on 7/14/10

miche3754, Sin is not only taught, but it is genetic. Being sanctified has to do with being born-again and has zero to do with legitimacy, for even an biologically illegitimate child, such as Jesus was being conceived outside of wedlock, can be sanctified. "Because of this, as through one human that sin into the world entered, and through which sin the death, and so on individual humans the death passed, since which individuals failed. But reigned that death before Adam until Moses, EVEN OVER THEM NOT SINNING UPON THE LIKENESS THAT TRANSGRESSION. Adam which stands a type who's coming. FOR AS BY ONE HUMAN'S DISOBEDIENCE MANY WERE MADE SINNERS, so by the obedience of one will many be made righteous." Rm.5:12,14,19.
---Eloy on 7/14/10

My point exactly, a friend
Who's bringing the infants to Christ?
How are they coming to Christ?
mima, Are you saying there is another Way than Christ?
---micha9344 on 7/14/10

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This is written in I Corinthians 7:14.
---Eloy on 7/14/10

Excuse me Eloy but the Bible says that a person is only judged for THEIR OWN SIN.
Remember we are to examine ourselves.

That verse in corinthians is about the children not being born illegitimate.
Sanctified husband or wife... If you read further down, Paul says "How do you know you will save your wife or husband?"
Sin is NOT inherited. It's taught and practiced.
Those who PRACTICE SIN, are condemned.

Micha, are you saying that if a baby who's parents are BOTH in sin, the baby is in sin too?
---miche3754 on 7/14/10

micha9344, Luke 18:15 And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
Luke 18:16 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
Luke 18:17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
---a_friend on 7/13/10

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death, but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord

Babies have NOT YET SINNED, How then does a just God judge them to be unrighteous, or a sinner?

By the grace, and JUST GOD they receive the gift of salvation.
---francis on 7/13/10

a friend, many people think that sin is only a conscience choice to be immoral, but sin is much more than only choosing to do wrong, but the consequences of sin is also spiritual and physiological in nature which curse can permeate every aspect of a person's life, including their relationships and also their children. When you take a sinful woman and marry her to a sinful man, then their children will also be sinful: but if you take a sinful woman and marry her to a holy man, then their children will be sanctified. This is written in I Corinthians 7:14.
---Eloy on 7/14/10

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Even in the New Testament it states that before the law was given there was sin in the world, (HUGE "but" here) BUT, sin is not imputed where there is no law !!!!

Even Cain (the murderer) had a mark set upon him so that none of his family would take vengeance on him for the murder of Abel. He was protected by God even though he "was of that wicked one" 1 John 3:12

An unborn child has no law or even the capacity to understand it. Therefore they are innocent. Even if they could break one of Gods laws by sinful nature it is not imputed to them.

What did Jesus Christ pray on the cross before he died? Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.
---JackB on 7/14/10

Yes Micha because parents have been able to sin and need their sin covered by Christ.

Christ came for sinners. Unborn Babies don't sin

Do you really think God is an unjust God?

Again, you did not answer, do unborn babies sin?

Sin is taught not inherited.....

Knowledge of Good and evil, hello!
They have NO knowledge of Good and evil. I know you remember the book of Genesis don't you?

They have not eaten of that tree so they are innocent.
We have sinned so we do not have a right to the tree of life- CHRIST, unless we believe and repent of the sin we have committed.
By the way, all you have given is scripture WRONGLY applied, might I add.
---miche3754 on 7/13/10

So, according to you, babies aren't covered by their parents, just a death without Christ.
Still no scripture I see.
Feelings... nothing more than feelings...
Abort a baby, so it doesn't have to sin in this world but get to an eternal heaven, that is pretty cold of you don't you think?
Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God,
So, an aborted baby to those that never knew about God gets in, but not his parents?
---micha9344 on 7/13/10


I do agree that God did dispense JUST justice in the OT. But we are talking about unborn babies not children and adults who are alive in the flesh, Babies don't even know what sin is. They haven't even been born yet.

I believe that aborted babies go right back to where they came from - God.

These babies did not sin. They had not even taken their first breath.

The bible is very clear that ALL are created by God with his breath of life just as Adam and Eve were breathed into.
Sin is transgression of the law. Babies can't transgess the law because they don't know it.
And God is still a JUST GOD.
---miche3754 on 7/13/10

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Eloy, All babies go to Heaven, if there would be one that didn't, might be a clone. Where do you get that some go and some don't??
---a_friend on 7/13/10

You go JackB!!
---a_friend on 7/13/10

If we are all born "innocent" there would be no reason for Christ's sacrifice!
We would all be judged on a one to one basis.
How is it that fundamentalists don't believe that Adam spoiled it for all of that Jesus had to come to our "rescue ".
Basic "fundamentals" of Christian beliefs,ignored by those supposedly championing it!
---1st_cliff on 7/13/10

I have never seen ,or should I say read so many people totally lacking in the knowledge of truth,the unborn are innocent and wont,and can not be judged,so are any children who never reach the age of accountability before their death.this age differs for each person,but God originally set the age at 21 I believe with the israleites God will not hold anyone accountable who has no understanding,or concept of what sin is.babies are in this category.
---tom2 on 7/13/10

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Micha, thanks for giving your view. You are correct on the passages you gave. One thing though that I wanted to mention that when God send an angel to slaughter many man, women and children, and the many times He brought death to thousands of Canaanites, its talking about physical deaths. Even those who died in the desert or even Moses who died before entering the promise land, died a physical death. It mentions death all the time but only physical death. Nothing about going to heaven or hell. Of course we can assume they all went to hell, with the exception of Moses, but my point is they were all physical deaths that were mentioned. But I know where you are coming from and you are correct as far as Scripture is concern and what it says.
---Mark_V. on 7/13/10

Might I remind everyone that SIN is the reason one gets sent to hell.
Does an unborn baby sin?
They don't even know what sin is.

This mess comes from those who believe sin is inherited.
There is no such thing as a SIN DNA.
We are told that sin isnt inherited.

that scripture by David, he was talking about the fact that his mother was an adulteress.
we are conceived in sin but not ALREADY sinning. In sin means - Into a sinful world.

A baby does not know right from wrong why else would God tell us to TRAIN up a child to know God?

JackB, awesome job!

Micha, that scripture just means they are illegitimate NOT that they can't receive salvation. Again, incorrect context.
---miche3754 on 7/13/10

All souls are not godly. Not every baby is holy, and not every baby is unholy. For some babies are unregenerate, and some babies are sanctified. Therefore, some aborted babies go to heaven, and some do not go to heaven.
---Eloy on 7/13/10

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
-Did the baby die?
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
-Did the baby accept Christ?
1Cor 7:14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean, but now are they holy.
-Was a parent a believer?
Where is your scripture or is it just feelings from a corrupted body in a corrupted world? Why not just abort babies so they can go to heaven?-What a guarantee!!
---micha9344 on 7/13/10

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Out of one side of the mouth the fundamentalists get all weepy at the thoughts of unborn not going to heaven ,god is too merciful,gentle, sweet to just let babies die!
On the other hand think nothing of saying God puts humans in the great barbecue under the ground to be tortured in writhing pain for eternity!
Double talk.double standards and at the same time say they believe in the Creator???
No true believer swallows that nonsense!
We are ALL born with SIN!
---1st_cliff on 7/13/10

Are you seriously suggesting to me that a baby in its mother's womb knows the law of God?

We're talking about innocence here. An unborn child has no knowledge of good and evil. Why do you think its a parents job to instruct our children of right and wrong? Because they dont know any better.

Our own conscience condemns us once we are enlightened to good and evil.

Gen 3:7
"And the eyes of them both were opened..."

Gen 3:10
"Who told thee that thou wast naked?..."
---JackB on 7/13/10

---JackB I would remind you that the Bible says we are conceived in sin!!!

I do not believe aborted babies go to hell. But my reason for not believing so it's not that they are innocent but rather that God has overlooked their condition and granted them a grace known as the (age of accountability.)
---mima on 7/13/10

Im am obsolutely astounded at this blog. That the question was even brought up greatly disturbs me.

Is God unjust? Would He condemn one to hell that has not sinned? The Bible makes it clear that those in the womb havent committed sin yet.

That baby is fine. Any of you that says differently need to seriously reexamine your relationship with Christ. It seems that you do not even come close to knowing his love.

The Bible makes mention of those who know the word of God but whose hearts are far from Him. Be sure you arent one of those people.

Im almost in tears thinking there are some who hold the name of CHrist who could believe such a horrible thing.
---JackB on 7/13/10

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Aborted babies are the same place as King David - asleep in the grave, awaiting the resurrection (Act 2:29,34).
---jerry6593 on 7/13/10

jerry, King David is NOT asleep - his body maybe, but his spirit is in heaven, fellowshipping with Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and all of the others who have made it there so far.

On Resurrection day, his body will be reunited with his spirit. But he's not dead, someone saw him in heaven (Jesse Duplantis).
---Donna5535 on 7/13/10

Francis, AMEN, Great job!

Your understanding of the text WRONG.
Christ was chosen before the foundation of the world and those who accept HIM are predesined to be conformed to HIS image.
No one is predestined anything accept hell unless they accept Christ as the Lord and saviour. Your belief puts limits on God when
God is a JUST GOD.
Babies do not know the law and cannot trespass the law so they have not sinned and therefore at the resurrection WILL be with God.
Sins do NOT pass one from parent to child by inheritance. Children are taught the law and taught how to sin. They aren't born knowing what sin is.
---miche3754 on 7/13/10

francis, I can see your point on this matter.
I would like to point out that though they had sinned not, yet they still died.
And they had died not knowing Christ in whom there is life.
It is very easy to say that the Lord will have mercy on them.
It is very hard to say that they died without Christ.
Being that noone will have Life without the Son, do you think some will?
I believe that the parent(s) cover the sins of their children, born or unborn, until they are able to decide for themselves as long as the parent(s) are in Christ, who covers all willing to be under His wings.
The thought of them being judged by their works instead of Christ's work seems logical, but without Christ only the sinless may obtain mercy.
---micha9344 on 7/13/10

Donna, we all have our 15-minutes of public ignorance and your friend has fulfilled her wishes with that comment, "God does not save aborted babies."

Proverbs 10:19: "In the multitude of words there is sin.....
---larry on 7/13/10

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---micha9344 on 7/13/10
I was not looking at or for the context. This text is about the soveignty of God. What iw as looking at wa sthe fact that children who are not yet born have not done any evil (SIN) So it would not be just ot send someone who have not sinned ot hell.

In no way shape or form does this text say that aborted babies go to heaven. It only says that the unborn have not sinned

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death, but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
---francis on 7/13/10

The soul is the breath of life , God brethed into Adam & Adam became a living soul. God knew us before we were formed & made, but also read John 3:13
"I tell you, no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he who came down from heaven, even the Son of Man who is in heaven." Until the ressurection no one can enter into Gods kingdom.Until then we are like Adam ,dust of the earth.
---candice on 7/13/10

LOL francis, read the rest.
God chose one before they were born.
The rest of Romans 9 does not help your case much.
I'm not saying your conclusion is untrue, I am saying your premise is very poor to reach that conclusion.
You took that verse out of context and applied it to a different subject thereby changing its meaning.
---micha9344 on 7/13/10

Romans 9:11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth,)

If they have not done evil, why would they God to hell? God is JUST.
---francis on 7/13/10

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MarkV, I often sway toward the just side of God's holiness an not give enough emphasis on His mercy(love) side. In human eyes, these two are at enmity between each other, but, with God, it is His embodiment of perfection. That being said:
Justice: I see Sodom and Gomorrah, the passover in Egypt, the flood, and other such mass punishment where it mattered not what age was slain. I don't see any of them protected by faith.
Mercy: I see that a believing parent sanctifies their spouse and covers their children, Paul say 'you and your house shall be saved', Joshua say 'As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord'.
I agree with you that those who have not sinned may be the only that escape the second death without Christ.
---micha9344 on 7/13/10

Micha 2, I'm speculating that the babies go to the Great White Throne of Judgment, but not speculating on who God is. We are not told if the babies names were written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, but we are not told either who the elect are, until they come to faith. Since we are saved by Grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in the case of the babies there could not possibly be any faith in Christ which is another problem. Many problems with my answer but very little is written in Scripture about babies. Do you have a view on this?
---Mark_V. on 7/13/10

Micha, I'm with you on this topic. I also read what 1 Cliff wrote and he was right. I had to read it a few times. Here is what I believe Micha, but I believe that all those babies are not covered by the blood of Christ. And that all of them go to "the Great White Throne of Judgment" Where all those who are not born of the Spirit go. And when the books are opened concerning them, one book is the book of works, nothing will be found on their account, and since God always gives righteous judgment, He will not find anything in their account and save them by His grace. I have no proof of all this other then I know God is just, and it is impossible for God to be cruel. The Judge of all the earth will surely do right.
---Mark_V. on 7/13/10

not an exact quote but Isiah said the lion would lay down with the lamb and a little child would lead them...Jesus is full grown..the millenium will be full of kids,we all grow together for a thousand years thats the whole point of having a get in but Christian bigots need to be wary,even pets and jungle natives are taken into account by the Creator of all things
---richard on 7/13/10

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Aborted babies are the same place as King David - asleep in the grave, awaiting the resurrection (Act 2:29,34).
---jerry6593 on 7/13/10


If you religion gives you comfort after such sad events, good.

We all hold on to beliefs, that help us get through, that make no sense.
---atheist on 7/11/10

athiest, need I remind you that GOD is NOT a Religion. I thought from hanging out here, you would have at least learned THAT TRUTH.

GOD is Love. GOD is my comforter through the Power of His Holy Spirit. It doesn't make sense to you because you are not a BELIEVER yet. Become one and see!!!!

GOD is not a Religion, that's where your stuck athiest.
---Donna5535 on 7/12/10

'Every one of us is born with Adamic sin and destined for death.
Belief in Christ's atoning sacrifice takes us out from under this curse.
Age has no bearing on the outcome..until we are out from under our parent's guide, our destiny lies with them! 1Cor.7.14.'
---1st cliff on 7/12/10
I have read this over and over. I have to say: I agree completely. There is so much I disagree with 1st cliff that it took me a moment to look through who wrote it and see the truth of it.
Amen and God bless.
---micha9344 on 7/12/10

Donna5535 The Bible says we will be known as we are known. I believe we will know all our loved ones and that includes your babies and mine,you made me remember what I had forgotten,I miscarried when I was two months along. I think there are and will be babies and children playing in the garden of God and no one can convince me I'm wrong. If we are to have mansions and live in them in heaven then I wonder if our loved ones will be with us in them,not as husband and wife,won't be married up there,but as kin. If I'm wrong God can show me when I get there and that will be ok too. I prayed and ask God to let me sing for him in heaven since I love to sing praises to God and used have a voice to sing,which God can restore,even on earth.
---Darlene_1 on 7/12/10

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\\Jesus rose from the dead in His physical body and ascended into heaven therein,
---Cluny on 7/11/10


Jesus put on the immortal, undefiled, heavenly body that we will all receive (1 Cor 15). Jesus did NOT put on the same carnal flesh that will not inherit the Kingdom.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/12/10\\

I am not saying His physical body was not changed. I've said elsewhere that His physical body was changed and glorified at the Resurrection.

But it was still a physical body. "Touch Me and see that it is I Myself. A spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have."
---Cluny on 7/12/10

Catherine,**Babies have not done anything wrong.So they are not guilty of anything"
Every one of us is born with Adamic sin and destined for death.
Belief in Christ's atoning sacrifice takes us out from under this curse.
Age has no bearing on the outcome..until we are out from under our parent's guide,
our destiny lies with them! 1Cor.7.14.
---1st_cliff on 7/12/10

Jesus rose from the dead in His physical body and ascended into heaven therein,
---Cluny on 7/11/10


Jesus put on the immortal, undefiled, heavenly body that we will all receive (1 Cor 15). Jesus did NOT put on the same carnal flesh that will not inherit the Kingdom.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/12/10

Sorry. I don't say things that people want to hear. That's what the Man - made rin - relig - org's churches Are doing.

It will be the same as some of the people in the O-Testament(not talking about the prophets). Those that obeyed the laws of God will come under the judgment seat of God.
---Lawrence on 7/12/10

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\\ Luke's data sources are for the most part multi-handed embellished hear say. Luke is good for theology, but poor for technical details. \\

What you're saying, FriendlyBlogger, is that parts of the New Testament are not trustworthy.
---Cluny on 7/12/10

Based on what I know:. children do reach an age when they are old enough to be held responsible for what they do. When that time comes, they will be judged by the same standards as everyone else....Babies have not done anything wrong. So they are not guilty of anything. This includes, of course, aborted babies.
---catherine on 7/12/10

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD!
behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.

And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power,
Not One faileth!

How readest thou?
---TheSeg on 7/11/10

Lawrence, You're just like the modern pastors of today IE preaching things that people like to hear ,regardless of the fact that none of it is scriptural!
**The aborted, handicapped, retarded..etc will be with God in heaven

Let's see you back that up with scripture!

Discussion of dead babies is too sensitive a topic to deal with on these blogs! IMHO

---1st_cliff on 7/11/10

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\\No one in their right mind sites Luke for anything that cannot be substantiated in another Biblical source. \\

In other words, you don't believe the shepherds came to behold the Divine Infant and heard the angels sing, "Glory to God in the highest" because no other Biblical source mentions it.

I suppose you don't believe in the account of the events surrounding the conception and birth of John the Baptist for the same reason.

The story of Lazarus and the Rich Man is unique to Luke. Should we reject it on that ground?

Matthew wasn't an eye-witness for the events of the infancy of Christ, either. Do you trust him?

How many time does the Bible have to say something for it to be true?
---Cluny on 7/11/10

1 of 2 Cluny, I am surprised at you, I took you for a better Bible scholar than that, No one in their right mind sites Luke for anything that cannot be substantiated in another Biblical source. Luke was not an eye witness to what he relates until the later portion of Acts after Paul converted him. Luke's data sources are for the most part multi-handed embellished hear say. Luke is good for theology, but poor for technical details. Luke's order of events, and who was at events differs from other Eye Witness writers and he misinterprets meaning and significance of events because he was a gentile.
---Friendly_Blogger on 7/11/10

Cluny Sorry I started to look the rest of "the story" up and didn't. Here it is,what I based what I said on,John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven,but he that came down from heaven,even the son of man which is in heaven. Men,are flesh,Jesus was the Word of God made flesh,so when it says "but he that came down from heaven", But means except for the fact,he,the son of man,Jesus was completely human flesh and completely God's son,devine,and he came down from heaven and returned to heaven and sets on the right hand of God. Not sure I made this clear but I hope so.
---Darlene_1 on 7/11/10

To place some one in heaven is not your job or to place someone in hell is not your job, but it is the judgement and place of the saints when every being shall stand in front of the Great Judge. He alone will decide as much as this is an emotional response it is also something ONLY God alone knows and thank God.... it stays that way.

That is not for us to know!!!!!!

No one apart from the already stated are actually in heaven with God, not even the Saints.

Every earthly being after those that were taken up will have to wait until the judgement of Mankind.
---Carla on 7/11/10

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2 of 2 Since Christianity is derived from Judaism, the concept of actual life taking precedence over potential life is strait from the Talmud if the life of the mother was in danger abortion was mandatory because actual life takes precedence. Christ new the president so did Paul and neither taught contrary to it, So the concept of actual life taking president over potential life can move unchallenged into Christianity as dogma because there is no scripture to the contrary. Even prior to Christ, Abortion is a clinical procedure that at times had to be used and it was fully stationed under Jewish ceremonial law. It was not murder, killing or child sacrifice which were prohibited and that how it was taught by the Rabbis for centuries.
---Friendly_Blogger on 7/11/10


If you religion gives you comfort after such sad events, good.

We all hold on to beliefs, that help us get through, that make no sense.
---atheist on 7/11/10

Sag, is right in all that he has said here.

Friendly_Blogger, you are blind, leading the blind here!
---a_friend on 7/11/10

\\No flesh and blood enters into heaven 1 Corinthians 15:50.\\

Jesus rose from the dead in His physical body and ascended into heaven therein, darlene1.

And contrary to what FriendlyBlogger said, we know from the account of the Visitation in Luke 1 that unborn babies are fully human.
---Cluny on 7/11/10

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Darlene, thank God I read your post first before I read Friendly Blogger's.
I had 3 miscarriages and I believe the spirits of those embroyo's went to heaven when they died inside my womb.

I believe they were incubated by God somehow and were "born" in heaven and are growing up. Actually, the Holy Spirit revealed to me that I have a son and 2 daughters and they are VERY happy, and are being raised in heaven. .Thank you everyone for your responses..I only don't agree with Friendly Blogger's response, sorry Friendly.
---Donna5535 on 7/11/10

Not only those that have been aborted, even those that are handicap & retardation depending on their severity & age, their soul will be with God in heaven aft the white-throne judgment of God.
Just think of this, the mothers that gave the abortion will be lost unless they repent. Also,
the souls of the aborted, they may take the place of you & me if were Not faithful.
---Lawrence on 7/11/10

Donna5535, Aborted babies or any other person that dies is buried in the grave.
Whether God resurrects them or not is up to Him.
We have no say in the matter,the bible does not say they have a different outcome than any one else.
The scripture says nothing about the "age of accountability" that's pure conjecture!

Extremely emotionally sensitive subject, anything dealing with babies!
Heavenly nursery???doubtful!
---1st_cliff on 7/11/10

No flesh and blood enters into heaven 1 Corinthians 15:50. It would not matter that babies who were aborted were not born with fully formed flesh and blood because the soul is appointed to each person to make them unique,and each of us must become spirit to go to heaven. Those babies never became fully formed yet they too become spirit and go back to God. We all were sown as natural seed,planted in the womb to become flesh,as all growing things something different,but will be raised a spiritual body 1 Corinthians 1:44. So you see the only thing which goes up to heaven is the spiritual body and those babies meant to be a person whom God knew before they were formed in the womb,Jeremiah 1:5,become a spiritual body to go back to God.
---Darlene_1 on 7/11/10

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Ecclesiastically they are know where, as they were never completed the growth process to become Souls and never Breathe the Breath of Life to be a legitimate independent life form.

Work in process does not count ONLY FINISHED GOODS.
---Friendly_Blogger on 7/11/10

God will judge each human being according to our reaching the age of accountability and our ability to understand our need for salvation through Jesus Christ.

People who meet these conditions need to decide if they are going to live for God, accept Jesus Christ, and go to HEAVEN, or live for the world, live in rebellion, and go to HELL.

Babies, young children, the mentally challenged, etc. are people that, I believe, God will have mercy upon and go to HEAVEN. They haven't yet developed the ability to determine their OWN need for salvation. God will be merciful to them.

I believe that your neighber is totally in the WRONG. I'd ask her where she would have gone if her mother had aborted her. Food for thought.
---Sag on 7/11/10

Aborted babies are with God in Heaven
---a_friend on 7/11/10

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