Burial Or Cremation
The Bible does not use the word "resurrection" when speaking about Lazarus. He came back to life, but presumably as a mortal - there is no evidence he lived forever after that point (and the chief priests tried to have him killed).
On the other hand, resurrection is qualitatively different - it replaces our old, mortal, corrupt bodies with new, immortal, incorruptible ones.
Lazarus was only dead for 3 days, so his body hadn't decayed much. However, most people dead for hundreds or thousands of years will be dust, so there will be no flesh that could be restored - the body must be recreated totally from scratch. There is no mention that only peoples who bodies are well preserved will be resurrected.
---StrongAxe on 8/13/10|
1Cor 15:51-54 Behold, I shew you a mystery, We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed...and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Mark 14:38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly [is] ready, but the flesh [is] weak.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live
---micha9344 on 8/12/10|
In the NT, Lazarus & others were raised from the dead after a few days. Raising from the dead is a spiritual gift from Christ. Ok, how can this be done on a person whose body has been burned, destroyed or even, internally embalmed? This would be premature destruction & extra damage of a body, making it harder for a Holy Spirit endowed Christian to simply raise or wake that person from the dead by a simple invocation. So burning or other manmade destruction, is an interference with God's own processes. Leave it up to Him because it may be that He will raise the person not long after death. It has happened with/ without human intervention, recently. google IANDS. I PREFER A VAULT openable from the inside.
---2bperfected on 8/12/10|
Ancient [pagan] Greek philosophers believed that flesh was evil and its main purpose was to house the REAL us - the immortal soul.
But this is not what Christianity teaches. Jesus resurrected in a body, not as a "ghost free of his evil body".
Ever since Augustine, the influence of the Greek philosophers became incorporated into Christianity, to the point where the idea that we are "good spirits in evil bodies" has become an common part of Christian belief.
---StrongAxe on 8/10/10|
\\The flesh is a mere vessel for the immortal part of man,\\
Our physical bodies are an essential part of our human nature.
Christ Himself rose from the dead in His glorified physical body. Our bodies will be raised as well.
---Cluny on 8/8/10|
God knows everyone even before they were born.The flesh is a mere vessel for the immortal part of man,made from dust,aka earth.from dust were thou made and unto dust shalt thou return.God has no limitations. there have been a number of people totally destroyed by volcanos down through the centuries,pompeii a great example,and others,are they not going to be judged,cause God cant find them?THATS A BIG NO SIR RE
---tom2 on 8/7/10|
Cremation is more of a cultural matter than a Christian matter. Some Christians object of the grounds that it destroys the body, but this is a not a valid reason. Remember, those who died years ago have pretty much decayed, so if God is able to make them whole again, I'm sure He will have no problem with those that have been cremated. To compare it with pagen rites or the fires of hell are also invalid - in my opinion. Lastly, (and most important),the Bible does not really address this matter as being right or wrong.
---wivv on 8/6/10|
Donna: thank you hun for your sweet comment, i try to treat others the way i want to be treated. And i do have days when i too can be fleshly, but ive seen enough of that online and i try to practice being Christ Like but there has been times that if God weren't so Gracious he should strike us all dead. We dwell in these bodies made from dirt which we will return to dirt someday.
And as for me im going to be buried in a casket under ground not burnt and put in a little urn for someone to throw my ashes someplace, to me this is so pagan.
---Lea on 8/6/10|
You said you couldn't find an example of anyone being cremated in the Bible, therefore you may not be exactly in favor of it.
Well, you don't find examples of anyone using a computer in the Bible, either.
NOW do you get it?
---Cluny on 8/6/10|
You wrote before that there is no place in Holy Scriptures where cremation is mention or anyone who was cremated instead of buried. This is NOT a good enough reason [s] to reject cremation. Rejecting a doctrine or practice SOLELY on the ground that Holy Scripture is silent on it is a man made tradition........
Yes, one can't find a place where cremation is mention in Holy Scriptures, but neither can one find a place where computers are mention. One must reject both if one wishes to use your fallacy logic.
Your reasoning is just plain silly, sorry.
---Ignatius on 8/6/10|
Cluny, I don't understand your comment about computers...can you explain it to me? Tks.
Lea, once again, I am amazed and humbled by your response. You are so gentle when responding and I love you for that.
After all, it's the kindness of God that leads us to repentence and your kindness is very melting to me, so thank you Lea!
I am seeing your point and everyone else's, but still don't understand Cluny's computer comment...sorry.
---Donna5535 on 8/6/10|
There is no direct answer to this question in the Bible. There is no Bile mandate on how to bury people once they die.
However, there are a few examples of people who we know are saved who happened to be cremated.Ex: Johnathan, the beloved friend of David whose body ws burned. 1 Sam 31:12.
Also th Bible says tht we are ashes,that we came from ashes and unto ahes we will return.
Conclusion: There is no specific command one way or another. So it is up to each person to decide according to his/her conscience.
---Pierre on 8/5/10|
YHWH has the capability to BARA [creation with out raw materials] that made him different from all other gods. He had the capability to start a an ongoing creation process that has been going on for over 15 billion years.
If YHWH can create without raw material do you not believe he can create a resurrection body for some one irrespective of what had happened to the former soul that you dowelled in. Whether it be dist, ashes, or was consumed my those that dwelt in the sea, or destroyed by an energy conversion process as in an explosion. None of the ends it your former body are beyond YHWH's ability to BARA new resurrection body from nothing. The disposal method of you former body has no consequence in your new resurrection body.
---Friendly_Blogger on 8/6/10|
Just because something cannot be found in the Bible does not exclude it from being done. Burial was indeed customary for the people described there but so was a lot of other things that we would never do today.
The lack of mention is not a prohibition.
Genesis 3:19, "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground, for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."
The process of degradation of the flesh may take years (no embaliming) many years (embalmed) or seconds (burned alive, eaten alive.) Either way the end result is the same. Let me rot or burn my body to ashes. I will still be resurrected on that great day.
---Bruce5656 on 8/6/10|
\\Try to find one instance in the bible where someone was creamated, it can't be done.
---Donna5535 on 8/5/10\\
Yes, it can. It's right after the verse where they used computers.
---Cluny on 8/5/10|
Joseph requested the Israelites to take his bones back to Israel. Based on Joseph's request if given a choice I believe one should be buried!
---mima on 8/5/10|
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Donna: in the last few weeks i have talked to different ones on this topic, they brought it up and for many years i have really had a problem with cremation. This is how i feel Jesus was buried he showed us how to be buried, right. Many want cremation because its cheaper even Christians , this began even before the time of our Lord and Saviour's time. Saul and his sons were burned but David had their bones buried. What a King he was. And there were some burned in the OT Leviticus 21:9: If the daughter of a priest becomes a prostitute, then she "must be burned in the fire.
Numbers 16:35: God exterminated Korah and 250 Israelite men with fire because they opposed Moses. Im not trying to be legalistic here.
---Lea on 8/5/10|
Christians followed Jewish practice of burial, rather than cremation which was associated with pagan funeral practices.
When the modern movement for cremation stated, it was done by free-thinkers and agnostics to deny any idea of the resurrection of the dead.
Considering the number of people, including believers, who have perished in fires, with their bodies reduced to ashes, or have been buried at sea where their bodies were eaten by sea creatures, this seems rather silly.
I know a man who is indigent and might have to be cremated. His last instructions say, "Should I be cremated, I know that the God Who counts my tears and hairs on my head can call my body back into being from the elements at the Parousia."
---Cluny on 8/5/10|
Lea, funny you should ask this question. My friend had her fiance creamated and that got me to wonder what you're asking.
So I went through the entire bible and could not find one place where anyone was burned after they died (creamated).
I even noticed that even the evil people were burried. Ananias and Sapphira in the New Testament (Acts) who lied to Peter/the Holy Spirit, even they were burried and they committed a bad bad sin.
Try to find one instance in the bible where someone was creamated, it can't be done.
---Donna5535 on 8/5/10|