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Is Fred K.C. Price An Apostle

Based on the criteria found in Acts 1:21-26, are the people like Frederick K.C. Price who claim to be Apostles, True Apostles of Christ, or False Apostles of Satan, 2 Corinthians 11:13-15.

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I want to agree with the comment made by---Harold.
---mima on 10/19/10

25 years ago I always made sure to have time to watch Fred Price on Sunday morning before leaving for church. As his popularity and wealth grew his gospel changed. As to his being an apostle, from my study of the Bible, an apostle is a believer that was with Christ and called directly by him. Paul meets the bill for he met Christ on the road to Damascus. Fred Price may have been called to preach, as are all believers, but I will state without hesitation that to this point in time he has not met or been directly called by the appearance of the living God. He is not an apostle.
---Harold on 10/19/10

"Word of Faith" Apostle OR "Word of Fake" Teacher? Fred Price is a wealthy Founder of a Mega Church in Urban L.A. CA. He's the Spiritual Son of Kenneth Hagin Sr. Dad Hagin was called the Father of the modern Word of Faith-Prosperity Movement. His questionable teaching came from E.W. Kenyon.

The premise is: Faith is a Force to use to obtain Prosperity & Health.
Prosperity is a Covenant right of believers, esp. those who sow financially to WOF Ministries.

Can they Control the Almighty Sovereign God by positive confessions?
Were we made little gods?
Just made in God's image?
Is this biblical or Metaphysical?
Is this ritualism or relationship w/God?
---Susie on 10/17/10

No, Price is a liar and the truth is not in him. He denies the sovereignty of God and teaches people that man can control and manipulate God and get Him to do what we want Him to do.
---Diakonos on 9/5/10

An Apostle would have to fulfill several qualifications. Obviously, he would have to be a Christian, and in good order within the Church, not a Heretic *1. He would then have meet the standards for a Bishop *2. Mr. Price having violated the rules concerning good behavior, not even having sufficient knowledge of the Lord to be able to teach, is qualified for neither pulpit - nor pew. He like most of the Faith preachers has been properly rebuked, but refuses the Lords discipline, 1Timothy 5:19-22. Just as a note, He believes that God gave him several of his false and gnostic doctrines, which makes him a false prophet!
---Glenn on 9/4/10

*1 Proverbs 19:22, 30:5-9, Matthew 16:25, 18:17, Luke 8:15, Romans chapter 6, 12:2, 17, 16:17-18, 1Corinthians 2:14-16, chapter 5, 6:7-10, 20, 9:25, 11:19, 2Corinthians 3:5, 8:19-21, Galatians 5:16-6:10, Ephesians 4:17-32, 5:3-18, Philippians 3:17-19, 4:5-7, Colossians 1:9-23, 3:5-10, 2Thesalonians 3:6, 1Timothy 4:1-2, 7, Titus 3:10, James 4:1-10, 1Peter 1:14, 2:11, 5:5-9, 2Peter 2:9-22, 1John 2:15-19, 4:5-6, 2John 1:9-11, Jude 1:14-19.
*2 Acts 20:27-30, 2Corinthians 2:17, 11:4, 12-15, 28-30 (not mammon), Colossians 1:28, 2:4, 8, 1Timothy 3:1-15, 2Timothy 1:1-4:8, Titus 1:5-16, James chapter 3, 1Peter 5:1-3, Revelations 2:2.
---Glenn on 9/4/10

Glenn, I did not see Frederick K.C. Price's Ordination Ceremony about his becoming a so called APOSTLE OF CHRIST JESUS.

I did read about it. It was totally SICKENING and DISGUSTING.

If people would take the time and study what SCRIPTURE has to say about THE TRUE APOSTLES OF CHRIST JESUS, they would know Frderick K.C. Price is not an APOSTLE OF CHRIST JESUS, but is a FALSE APOSTLE and a SERVANT OF SATAN, 2 Corinthians 11:13-15.
---Rob on 8/31/10

The spiritually apostemate pseudo-apostle of apostasy. A.k.a. the 'Prophet of Prosperity', and 'Apostle of Faith' (successive - whose Judas?), M.Div., D.Min, PhD. Religious Studies - FICU diploma mill, and a junk honorary D.Div. - Oral Roberts University, Ezekiel 16:24-25.
His installation ceremony seemed odd using such things as the arched great swords, the rank insignia on his vestment, the snake handlers crozier, the key and double dragons tail crook on his badge. They pulled Ephesians 4:11 out of 8-16, oddly forgetting 12-13. He, the consecrators, and those in the audience, should have read 1Timothy 5:22 and disqualified each other. And Clarence McClendon?
---Glenn on 8/31/10

Glenn, there are many false teachers on the market today, themselves unsaved they lead others astray. I have seen this particular TV speaker, and he mixes scripture with worldly philosophies, and you cannot be a pure Christian and also have mongrel truth. For whenever the gospel is mixed with other ideology you no longer have the Christian gospel, but instead you have false doctrine and false religion.
---Eloy on 8/31/10

Beware! The Lies of Satan p. 48-49, re Job 1:20-21, "However, what Job said is not a statement of truth. It is truly stated, because it is recorded in the Bible, but it should not be construed as a statement of truth." > Mr. Price, please read verse 22.
p.24, "God does not and will not send anyone to hell except the devil and his angels" ..."However, God will let you to go to hell if that is your choice". > 2Thesalonians 1:8-9, Revelations 20:15, 21:8.
p. 171, "Worry is unbelief. It is a lack of faith. The Bible says that anything not of faith is sin, and worry is the worst sin you can commit".
---Glenn on 8/31/10

5/1/92, tape #PR11 "God can't do anything in this earth realm except what we, the body of Christ, allow Him to do." ..."they'll consider that statement to be just heresy". > We do / it is! Job 38-41 (40:8), Psalm 115:3, Matthew 5:16, 35, 25:32, Luke 1:32, Acts 4:24, 28, Romans 16:27, Ephesians 1:21-22, Colossians 1:16-17, 1Timothy 1:17, 6:15.
Beware! The Lies of Satan p. 129, "Abraham is the man God used to get back into the earth realm. God had given Adam dominion over all the resources He had created, but Adam gave that dominion over to the devil." > Genesis 1:26, 28, Psalm 8:6-8.
---Glenn on 8/31/10

Glenn, what you are sharing is the typical FALSE TEACHING of those Word of Faith Teachers/Preachers. These people are "tag teams" who deceive and con people out of their money, Romans 1:18-32.

It is sad so many people are caught up in their scams, but I guess they deserve it because they are getting what they want 2 Timothy 4:3-4, and they refuse to follow the instruction found in 2 Timothy 2:14-19, along with the example found in Acts 17:11.
---Rob on 8/31/10

Monthly Letter 6/05, "I think I am worth a million dollars a year in salary" "As a man thinks in his heart so is he." Philippians 4:11, 1Timothy 6:6-8, Hebrews 13:5.
Ever Increasing Faith 11/23/90 "The apostles were business men, they were rich men, had plenty of money. I'm going to show you that Jesus was a wealthy man, had plenty of money." > Matthew 8:20, Luke 6:24, 9:58.
12/19/90, "The Bible says that He has left us an example that we should follow His steps. Thats the reason why I drive a Rolls Royce. Im following Jesus steps." > What Would Jesus Drive, Matthew 8:23, 21:1-17, Mark 11:1-11, Luke 19:29-38, John 12:12-16.
---Glenn on 8/30/10

Web site weekly message 6/27-7/1/05, "when God tells us to believe that we receive what we pray for, it is because what we are praying for is already in existence in the spirit world." "duality of existence." "Everything exists in two forms"... "Claim your Covenant by saying, In the name of Jesus, I believe that I receive it. And the thing you are believing for will come to pass" ... > This is not a Christian doctrine, Jeremiah 23:25-32.
Note: John 14:13-14 is further explained by 'according to his will' in 1John 5:14-15. In Romans 4:17, God, "calleth those things which be not as though they were, not you". James 1:5-8 concerns asking for wisdom.
---Glenn on 8/30/10

Ever Increasing Faith Messenger 6/80, "Do you think that the punishment for our sin was to die on a cross? If that were the case, the two thieves could have paid your price. No, the punishment was to go into hell itself and to serve time in hell separated from God." The sufficiency of the cross is an essential of the Christian faith, Zechariah 9:9, Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46 "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit", John 19:30 "It is finished", Romans 8:3, 1Cointhians 1:17-21. And Luke 23:43! Mr. Price assumes that some verses that make reference to G86 Hades are to infernal Hell that are not. Or, the author(s) would have used G1067 Gehenna, or G5438 Phulake - prison, Acts 2:27, 31.
---Glenn on 8/30/10

Ever Increasing Faith Ministries, 1980, audio tape #FP545, side 1. "Jesus took on the nature of Satan prior to the crucifixion". > 1Corinthians 1:23, 2Corinthians 5:21 "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." This means that he was a perfect and sinless substitutionary sin offering for us.
11/16/90, "if it be thy will or thy will be done - if you have to say that, then your calling God a fool." "Sounds like humility, its really stupidity." > Has anyone ever told Mr.Price that he was insulting the Lord? Mathew 6:9-13, 26:39, 42, 44, Luke 11:2-4, 22:42, Mark 14:36, also Numbers 23:19, Malachi 3:13-15, Luke 22:65.
---Glenn on 8/30/10

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Instead of you people always a fretting about who is real and who isn't, and since most of you have never received the new birth, really it is impossible for you to know very much. And for the few trues who are on here, how about guarding your own heart.
---catherine on 8/29/10

Rob, indeed a lot of speakers on TV are more concerned about "money" then they are about "salvation".
---Eloy on 8/28/10

Trav, .... I suggest that you sincerely ask my Lord Jesus Christ to save you.
---Eloy on 8/26/10

Yours testify's different than Scripture Eloy.
One may be scripturally noted....prophet Eloy. Or profit Eloy.
My Lord provides scriptural test for posers.
Might be a place for an aspiring/expiring "profit" to stop and read em.
Deuteronomy 18:20
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
---Trav on 8/27/10

Trav, your foolish mocking of the Holy Spirit is common and weak, and your vain imaginations against me are even more predictable and trite. I suggest that you sincerely ask my Lord Jesus Christ to save you.
---Eloy on 8/26/10

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Trav, leeta pulio salamena: your words are ungodly.
---Eloy on 8/24/10

Por favor, senor. Limit of my foreign lingo. Appears to say "pulling a leetle Salamander"?
Yes I suppose my words are....without scripture. Anything other than yea or nay would be.
Your prophecies from the books of Eloy, are far more dangerous than puns of character syndromes of grandeur.

Prophets typically do not plagerize. And would recognize....(T.V.)wolves in sheeps clothing.
Using street annoy Cluney......wha da ya spect? Respect? These words of mine inflamed you like yours inflame. Wha's da diff? Get it?
---Trav on 8/26/10

Rob, Yes, it is common today that many speakers are not of Christ, and many whom publicly speak are unsaved themselves: and when the blind lead the blind both fall into the ditch.
---Eloy on 8/24/10

Yesterday while watching television, Frederick K.C. Price was bragging about the $18,000 watch he has.

Why do these people always talk about money and having the material things of this world which one day will all pass away, but you never hear them talk about SALVATION which is eternal?
---Rob on 8/23/10

Trav, leeta pulio salamena: your words are ungodly.
---Eloy on 8/24/10

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\\cluny, you're dissing again.
---Eloy on 8/16/10\\

In any case, if you write like a pre-literate street thug, you are thinking like a pre-literate street thug.
---Cluny on 8/20/10

Cluny,Cluny,Cluny. You're almost racial profiling. I'm stunned, after all the times you and a couple more have used no scripture on to me for telling the truth for calling a spade a shovel with a handle on it.
That pushed far enough, would have the gall and affront to use truthful language in describing this non-mahometan,red lettered rapper his posting "prosopagnosia"!

Get a hold of yourself the old politically correct mahometan "strainer" defender we all are used to now.
---Trav on 8/23/10

cluny, more dissing. Get a new heart.
---Eloy on 8/23/10

strongax, but it is not up to a condemned sinner to judge any body when they themselves are manifested to be sinuous. The sinner must first get themselves right before they are able to rightly judge others.
---Eloy on 8/23/10


If someone who claims to be a Christian on television and is doing something wrong, it's proper to call him to account, no matter how successful or spiritual he is. Paul called out Peter to his face when he showed preferential treatment to Jewish converts over Gentile converts.

The Bible warns that many would corrupt the gospel to make money, so when somebody makes a lot of money off the gospel, it's reasonable to take a close look at whether what they are doing is more serving the gospel, or more self-serving - and then call them to account if something seems not right (for example, Benny Hinn begging for $2 million while he lives in a mansion and has a $36 million private jet).
---StrongAxe on 8/20/10

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\\cluny, you're dissing again.
---Eloy on 8/16/10\\

And you're showing all the humility of Jesus and meekness of Moses.

In any case, if you write like a pre-literate street thug, you are thinking like a pre-literate street thug.
---Cluny on 8/20/10

I guess the question in the case of Fred Price is Apostle of what?

Its been years since I've seen Price who was known for lack of humility, noting that riches is proof of great faith, and finally the claim people who got sick lacked faith (until he took very ill).

Lawrence is right, the point is not self-appointed titles, and besides influence is more important than position.

Linda, thanks for the listing of offices.
---larry on 8/16/10

The fifth office is the office of the apostle.

---Linda on 8/16/10

Why is it there are some people who constantly say sharing the truth about "FALSE TEACHER" is dissing them, SPEAKING FALSEHOOD", and need to become "SAVED"?

Is it because these people are imature, ignorant, and they are idiots?
---Rob on 8/16/10

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An apostle is one who moves in all Offices of the Holy Spirit. Pastor, Evangelist, Teacher, Prophet and I foget the 5th office.

I have never listened to Fred Price, so I can't answer your question. However, I will say that I have met ONE Apostle since I've been born again in 1983. He moves in all offices of the Holy Spirit and all of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, is like Jesus to the tee (humble, teaches spirit and life, not from his intellect, very compassionate, and the Lord is with him in third world countries where he ministers and performs many miracles and healings).

That to me, is a TRUE Apostle. You gotta meet him, but this month he is in Napal.
---Donna5535 on 8/16/10

cluny, you're dissing again.
---Eloy on 8/16/10

Another self proclaimed apostle, with the false - hood of trin teachings just believing.

At the end he will pay the Price, for Matt.15 v 14 & 23 v 24.
---Lawrence on 8/16/10

\\Are the people on this site who frequently dis Christians on televison,\\

Eloy, if you're going to speak with adults on serious adult topics, here, please don't use non-words such as "dis."

---Cluny on 8/15/10

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Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles, and some, prophets, and some, evangelists, and some, pastors and teachers (for and until),

1. for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry
2. till we all come to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ
3. no more children tossed about with every wind of doctrine
4. grow up into Christ

If this has not taken place, there are still apostles (and all the rest of the five-fold ministry). It doesn't take long being here to discover that all the qualifications above have not been met.
---Linda on 8/15/10

part 2
Accusations of childishness, division, no knowledge of the Son of God, immature. One need only to read the Word of God to know whether there are still apostles or not. If apostles have passed away, so have the rest of those mentioned and you wouldn't find a whole hoard of folks here trying to pass themselves off as teachers.
---LindaS on 8/15/10

I will look at these Scriptures later and get back with you, but, I have heard that there are no true apostles today. Whether it was from an reliable source, only God knows.
---catherine on 8/15/10

My spirit is troubled by people who feel they must be seen & heard by ALL people everywhere ~ people who claim exhalted status in the church by their desire to wear lofty "pharisaical" titles. Seems to me this is an issue of PRIDE & shouldn't be found in God's church. "Everyone" in Jesus' church should have a spirit of humility & exhalt HIM (God) only. (Pv. 16:18-19)
---Leon on 8/15/10

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Are the people on this site who frequently dis Christians on televison, True Christians from Christ, or False Apostles of Satan?
---Eloy on 8/15/10

Many teachers on television have been exposed and proven many, many times to be false teachers.

Those people who continue to support and defend these false teachers, are they true christians, or false apostles?
---Rob on 8/14/10

Based on the criteria found in Acts 1:21-26, are the people on this site who frequently dis the Bible teachers on televison, True Christians from Christ, or False Apostles of Satan, 2 Corinthians 11:13-15.
---Eloy on 8/14/10

there is so much disagreement between believers,thats why we have all the denominations within the church. Bottom line is only God knows the heart,but we can discern some facts.I truly believe that signs and wonders follow true apostles of christ,very little happens today in that area because the majority arent true apostles.price is a extremely big advocate of prosperity,he beklieves we can all ask God for wealth and receive it,problem is he is speaking of wordly wealth,money ,possessions,property,etc.A true apostle knows wealth is spiritual,look at the lives of the original twelve apostles,none were wealthy,and all died for their faith in christ.
---tom2 on 8/13/10

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Are people who are constantly looking to find fault and then spend a lot of time spreading that fault to promote strife accusers of the brethren and thus on the side of the enemy? I haven't been here long but much of what I see amounts to nothing more than opinionated gossip and attempts to verify those opinions by taking sides. If your brother is overtaken by a fault, you go to him first and restore him in a spirit of meekness lest you also be tempted. If he doesn't listen, take him before the elders. Have you already done this or did you come here first?
---Pat on 8/13/10

Ever Increasing Faith Ministries ("EIFM") is the missionary outreach arm of Crenshaw Christian Center ("CCC"). Crenshaw Christian Center was founded by Dr. Frederick K. C. Price.

It has an current Donor Alert on Ministry Watch. The do not disclose their finances or uses of funds.

Until they change their attitude about Transparency don't fund them.
---Friendly_Blogger on 8/13/10

there were 12 disciples in the bible- jesus says matt. 28:29 go therefore and make disciples of all nations- some people are prideful and what to better than others or more spriritual so they call themselves apostles- pride- study the bible it will teach you about everything
---lolita on 8/13/10

\\The False apostles the first pope\\

Whom do you consider to be the first pope, Lawrence?

Please give his name.

Since the term "papa" (whence the English form "pope") has meant different things at different times, clarification would be appreciated.
---Cluny on 8/13/10

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The definition of an apostle does not fit Frederic K.C. Price.
---mima on 8/13/10

True Apostles of Jesus Christ. Beginning with Apostle Peter delivered from God The salvation message according to Acts 2 v 38 to the Jewish people First on the day of Pentecost. The other 11 preached The Very Same.

The False apostles the first pope from the devil 2nd.Cor.11 13 - 15 beginning with the trin rcc down through her offspring daughters trin churches the presby, luth, aog, naz, method, bapt, cog etc trin churches with their salvation plans easy believism, no works salvation, the sinners prayer etc.
---Lawrence on 8/13/10

No, he's not an Apostle.

There have been no apostles since the last one died.
---Cluny on 8/13/10

based on any biblical standard he is not an apostle

Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
---francis on 8/13/10

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This is up to God to judge. However we should see by the fruits he produces whether or not he is a true man of GOd.
---Candice on 8/13/10

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