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Hidden Treasure In The Bible

Proverbs 2:4 compares the knowledge of the Lord to hidden treasure. What "hidden treasure" (allegory and metaphor) have you found in Scripture?

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Gal 5:22-23..........the fruit of the Spirit is:
1) charity, 2) joy, 3) peace, 4) patience, 5) kindness, 6) goodness, 7) faithfulness, 8) gentleness, 9) self-control.

1Co 13:4-7..........Love (1) is:
- patient (4)
- kind (5)
- not envious or boastful (8, 9),
- not arrogant or rude (8, 9)
- not insistent on its own way (3, 6)
- is not irritable or resentful (1-9)
- does not rejoice at wrongdoing (3, 6)
- rejoices with the truth (2)
- bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. (7)

God is love and presents to us a Holy Spirit that makes a meaty spiritual fruit salad. What a treasure it is!
---aka on 9/10/10

It is obvious that most people approach the [real] truth with great caution.

Each person's 'quest for truth' (REAL truth) requires the courage/strength to 'think outside the box' and dare to be contrary to the status quo.

The Lord wants a TRUE HUMAN BEING, not one that is made from a book or the teachings of 'tradition'. "The Way" to become a true human being that has REAL life that is eternal (John 14:6) is to be peaceful and just (holy) and discover the HIDDEN treasure (solid food) in NT scripture.

The Lord never intended to stifle anyone's humanity with prudish restrictions, regulations, etc., His intention/WILL is to make us MORE of a human being like "in His image" man before the fall.
---more_excellent_way on 9/9/10

If the hidden treasure were simply a metaphor than the treasure would be worthless ...exactly what false ministers want - duping MANY by dismissing truth and mixing it up lies

knowledge is truth worship in truth and spirit

otherwise one is subscribing to and worshiping the EMPTY pagan traditions of men

there is only one truth ...Christ the messenger came to announce the Kingdom of God ...HE will inherit this promise at the end of the great tribulation when HE defeats Satan and death to resurrect ALL in Him to eternal life

truth is those who qualify for eternal life prior to the millennium will RULE with HIM on earth
---Rhonda on 9/7/10

aka: " and all the other fruit of the Spirit are priceless..."

Only LOVE is priceless for God is love. Without love all the fruits of the spirit are meaningless.
---Steveng on 9/7/10


you are right. love and all the other fruit of the Spirit are priceless. milk and solid food came at a price...(metaphorically and physically speaking). you are also right about the dualistic meaning of the phrases we use everyday.

again, i never claimed that God did not employ literal meaning. When He said, "Thou shalt not steal", i find no metaphor in that. Also, i said nothing of allegorical code. however, i do not see how someone claiming such spiritual maturity cannot see the value of allegory and metaphor in the written and spoken language.

I was just trying to be kind instead of argumentative which is becoming the norm nowadays.
---aka on 9/3/10

aka: "...priceless metaphors."

Priceless? Milk and solid food? Hogwash. "Love" is the only thing that is priceless - and eternal. The metaphors and similes used in the bible are for people to understand spiritual matters. Every metaphor and simile has a literal meaning behind it for people who don't understand. If people had studied poetry and Shakespeare while in school, they would certainly understand the bible a whole lot better. The Jewish people are very creative people and can be found throughout the bible as well as in today's movie production. We use many metaphors in everyday use: my cars a lemon, this place is a dump, he has a cold heart, stabbed me in the back, the mouth of a river...
---Steveng on 9/2/10

It is true that the spiritual world cannot be truly expressed with common every day language and thoughts. It surely is more easily understood metaphorically, but God did not confine His truth to metaphorical expression (and certainly not "allegorical" code words).

God succeeded very well in communicating with human speech (our reluctance to believe that is why we have "INTERPRETATION",.....there should be no CREATIVE FANTASY "interpretation").

Beyond ALL other information we ever gather about God, we should care about His WILL (desires, wants and wishes)...THIS is LOVE...

Ephesians 5:17
"Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is".
---more_excellent_way on 9/2/10

There will be many "Christians" in the body of Christ who will simply come to Him for healing/blessings, but they really care nothing about having a holy heart. Jesus calls them "dogs/swine". That is why Jesus is going to "shake" His church/body ("the heaven").

"in order that what cannot be shaken may remain" (Hebrews 12:27).

Jesus says that when we try to give holy hidden treasure to those who are satisfied with milk, they will first mock the truth and then they will get on your case ("attack you").

"...and do not throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot and turn to attack you".

No matter the metaphor, pursue SOLID FOOD.
---more_excellent_way on 9/2/10


i do think more_excellent_way meant two messages, i think he meant two metaphors that mean a lot to him...milk and solid food. those are priceless metaphors. living water is pretty "deep" considering there are rivers in the heart too.

it did take a while for him to get there although. :~)
---aka on 9/2/10

If you consider hidden treasure a burdensome complication, then why are you in this blog? Solid food is not for everyone, it is only for those who have moved on to maturity in Christ. Solid food is for those whose heart was broken by the system of buildings, books, and partisan procedure (gestures, ritual, protocol). I no longer wear a Christian 'uniform' or 'march properly' according to the will of man, but now I embrace our Lord as in Luke 7:38 with tears from my heart (water that is LIVING).

"began to wash his feet with tears".

John 7:38 "He who believes in me,...'Out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water'".

Jesus brought living water to my heart. That's what the hidden treasure does.
---more_excellent_way on 9/2/10

more_excellent_way: "There are two messages in scripture."

Why do you make christianity complicated. There is only one message in the bible: the Kingdom of God. This was the gospel Jesus and the apostles preached. Then the bible teaches people about how to get there by the ultimate commandment Jesus spoke of - LOVE. Eternal life is as simple as this. Colossians 2:8-10
---Steveng on 9/1/10

There are two messages in scripture.

Babes in Christ are taught "MILK".

"training us to renounce irreligion and worldly passions" (Titus 2:12).

Scripture is profitable/useful only for "TEACHING"/TRAINING...

2 Timothy 3:16
"profitable for teaching,...and for training in righteousness".

The second message ("DEPTHS of God", 1 Corin. 2:10) is for MATURE Christians that have have moved on to be fed "SOLID FOOD".

The ancient societies were fed MILK...

1 Corinthians 3:2
"I fed you with milk, not solid food".

The hidden treasure is SOLID FOOD.

The traditional teachings only teach MILK (with lies mixed in).
---more_excellent_way on 8/31/10


that sounds great. what he meant and who he was talking to is quite a loaded potato (my metaphor :-) and it is quite a hidden treasure. but, i cannot get to it until later.
---aka on 8/31/10

aka, let's get back to the subject and forget about "poet", x-c times y, "allegory, metaphor" and whatever else.

When the verse says "for those outside", why do you still seek wisdom from PARABLES?
---more_excellent_way on 8/31/10


Figure of speech - use of language in a nonliteral sense to achieve a particular effect. Metaphors, similes, and hyperbole are all common figures of speech.

Read the whole conversation in Mark 4. You might get more meaning.

A common CN tactic - A writes B. X says A wrote C. X writes Y. X uses half verse (or one verse) theology to say Y. X never really addresses B.

I never said Jesus was a poet. If you finish, Jhn 16:25, Jesus said that He speaks in proverbs (allegory): "...The hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figures of speech but will tell you plainly about the Father"

It is when you search the scripture and apply it that He reveals the Father plainly.
---aka on 8/31/10


YES, I mentioned are correct, I did mention PARABLES.

Do you see who parables are for?

"To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but FOR THOSE OUTSIDE everything is in PARABLES" (Mark 4:11). the part that says "for those outside" (this is a very good clue,

It is important to make The Lord's words meaningful to us.

The Lord does SOMETIMES speak in "figures of speech", but He is not a poet that speaks "allegory and metaphor".

John 16:25
"I have said this to you in figures".
---more_excellent_way on 8/30/10

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i carefully considered you responses, and truly I do not understand what you are trying to say in whole. i want to respond, but in one response, you say 'no allegory' then in another you say 'parables'. parables are allegory. i guess i missed something.
---aka on 8/30/10

tom2, i totally agree with that. He is already revealed. it is us that cannot see. that is why when we spend time in His Word that we find hidden treasures. These hidden treasures are basic truths not actual riches.

the western world is so literal. the bible is filled with imagery. i just thought it would be good to talk about the beautiful text that we were given. we talk about sabbath, osas, hellfire, "should i divorce", trinity, and so on... can't we share the pictures that were given to us instead of hammering the words over and over?
---aka on 8/30/10

God's treasure cannot be counted like gold or silver or other worldly possessions. God's treasure cannot be taken by a thief. God's treaure cannot be spoiled or rusted. These are the earthly treasures that people covet for themselves and is not rich toward God.

There is both good treasure and evil treasure that is stored in the heart. For the fear of the LORD is the beginning of all your treasures - a treasure of heaven that does not fail, where no thief can get to, and neither moth or rust corrupt - of which all the wisdom and knowledge is stored.

Isaiah 23:18
---Steveng on 8/29/10

aka,scripture tells us that one day everything that is hidden will be revealed,but these are the things that we in our foolish thinking actually believe are hidden.There is nothing that God has hidden from anyone,yes scripture does say that God has revealed himself to those who believe,but the lack of knowledge of him is a choice. God doesn,t hide,he does ask for faith.
---tom2 on 8/29/10

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"To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but FOR THOSE OUTSIDE everything is in PARABLES" (Mark 4:11).

So what do you want to tell Jesus now?,....that His followers decided not to read everything He spoke?????
---more_excellent_way on 8/29/10

(the "hidden treasure" in scripture, no "allegory", no "metaphor")

then, when we ask God for wisdom, and he gives it liberally, we should see lots of women crying in the streets, concourse, and gates saying "Pro 1:22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?"

How long shall we be simple?

parable -
1.a short allegorical story designed to illustrate or teach some truth, religious principle, or moral lesson.
2. a statement or comment that conveys a meaning indirectly by the use of comparison, analogy, or the like.

Should we tell Jesus that His use of metaphor and allegory was ill advised?
---aka on 8/28/10

Yes, well, the more that I look at those Scriptures, it is wisdom that we should be seeking. That is exciting for me because the lost has none. Hallelujah. HA,HA. Come on Jesus, save a lost soul, today. GO TO WORK. My GOD, My LORD, and My SAVIOR. GO TO WORK. Hallelujah.
---catherine on 8/28/10

Contrary to what is taught, "hidden treasure" wisdom is not automatically handed to everyone who chooses Jesus to be their savior.

By using scripture as their trainer, babes in Christ are taught to have a "FOUNDATION OF REPENTANCE" by performing righteous works (good deeds) and simply BELIEVING IN (faith) God, but if that "babe" moves on to "maturity" in Christ, the believer must establish JESUS as their one and only foundation, learn to have a "FAITH FOR FAITH" (Romans 1:17).

Hebrews 6:1
"Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God".
---more_excellent_way on 8/27/10

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Many only seek enough wisdom so they will have salvation/purification of the flesh,...few will seek enough wisdom (the "hidden treasure" in scripture, no "allegory", no "metaphor") so that they will also have purification of the CONSCIENCE.

Jesus was the lamb/heifer that sanctified us for the purification of the FLESH...

Hebrews 9:13 "the ashes of a heifer sanctifies for the purification of the flesh".

.BUT, there are "better things that belong to salvation" (Hebrews 6:9). If we truly learn from God's spirit, the Holy Spirit will teach us to be peaceful and just so that our conscience will always be clear...

Hebrews 9:14
"purify your conscience".
---more_excellent_way on 8/27/10

tom2, relax. i was talking about what wisdom in the bible have you found in allegory and metaphor. that's all.

like the two thieves hanging with Jesus. In a sense, we are all thieves and our choice is simple. Is Jesus is who He claims or not? i call that scene the 'doctrine-buster' scene. It throws out all the various doctrines on how to be saved (baptism, be "born again", works, "accept Jesus into...").
---aka on 8/27/10

depends on what your perception of exactly what a treasure is?????? is it money?fame?possessions?or is it to know God through his son?to live your life being his servant?you know if you are a believer you have a creator,a loving creator,who wants you to spend eternity with him in paradise,sounds like a treasure to me.
---tom2 on 8/27/10

heres the bottom line,in this life the only treasure I can think of is the gift of salvation,having children is as close as it gets,but the real treasure of a life lived obeying God,and following jesus is as good as it gets.when you die will people say he went around doing good,or because of money or possessions will they say he sure did well.
---tom2 on 8/27/10

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anon, that is ironic...while seeking for treasure, the Treasure finds me.

mima, like what, i enjoy reading your stuff.

For a long time, Lot's wife turning to a 'pillar of salt' befuddled me. Why a pillar of salt? Then, a few years later, it hit me...

a pillar is a column used for support or decoration. but, the first time that it rained, the salt pillar would become useless in support and asthetics.

also, back in the day, salt was one form of currency used to pay soldiers. however, if it is in pillar form, it becomes useless as a way to compensate soldiers. therefore, a pillar of salt is really doubly useless.
---aka on 8/26/10

aka,the only hidden treasures are spiritual ones,those revealed to believers through the spirit. Many refer to them as blessings,encouragement,love,knowledge,
obidience to the word,any good work done through the spirit,these and more are treasures,hidden from the world,but revealed to those who believe.
---tom2 on 8/26/10

"hidden treasure" that the Lord has revealed to me (versus I have found it) is the way to become the Bride of Christ, and to be invited to the marriage feast which I asked about and studied for many years.

Not everyone who is saved will make it to the Marriage Feast. Oh People, ask Father God, Lord what must I do to be invited to the marriage feast? The 10 virgins is a good place to start studying on this subject. Jesus must become our Husband while we're living on earth in order to become His Bride. The Bridegroom (Jesus) looks for His Bride on earth, then when the time is at hand, we become the Bride and He is our Bridegroom!
---anon on 8/26/10

We are to seek wisdom. God is full of wisdom. We are to seek it, cry after it, beg for it. [I don't know what to do, Jesus, You have got to tell me]. With GREAT ZEAL. Not much wisdom among men today. How come? Too many lost people making a mess out of everything. I for one, am constantly seeking God's wisdom. How do I do this on a day to day bases. I seek His council, and then I obey Him....Over in Matthew 13:44, "The treasure here, represents His treasured people who He bought and hid with Himself in God" [Col. 3:3].
---catherine on 8/26/10

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The hidden treasures in the Scriptures have given me the PEACE that passes all understanding!
---mima on 8/26/10

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