Hi Alan you said "particularly ... it is what every conqueror has done throughiut history"
...and my point exactly, as can you see Satan's trend as he practice this system on previous empires and he will do again in the upcoming New World Order lead by a socialist Antichrist. Please understand this type of political agenda reaches the masses where 99% of the world has nothing or little. Therefore for the last ruler who seeks to be God of all would have to be generous and to appease the masses and not the few rich.
For better understanding of the E.U kingdom lead by the A-C that will one day rule Israel, google David Jeremiah who is a very prominent and well respected minister. His teachings are excellent!
---sandrad67 on 10/18/10|
"The NIV version says he will distribute the wealth among followers...does this not sound like a socialistic agenda?" No it does not particularly ... it is what every conqueror has done throughiut history
Can you explain your maths about the RRE (who calls it that anyway) being the 7th kingdom? And has the EU ruled over Israel. And what in Dan 7 23 relates to Rome? And is the EU based in Rome?
And waht about justifying your claims about the other aspects of anticrist
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/18/10|
-has socialist/communist views? Dan 11:24 will scatter the riches
KLV Dan 11:24...he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds
This is a strong reference of the Antichrist political/social views. The NIV version says he will distribute the wealth among followers...does this not sound like a socialistic agenda? IE: What our Pres is doing?
Revived Roman Empire (RRE) is the 7th kingdom bec Daniel never mentioned the 2 prior kingdoms. Here are all the kingdoms in order of their reign over Israel: Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece & Rome. Read Dan 7:19 carefully...the 7th kingdom comes out of Rome, is why it's called the RRE.
---sandrad67 on 10/17/10|
Sandrad ... Thanks for that.
Presumably you mean Dan 12.24, not 24.24? But that does not imply socialist views ... it is the action of any victor
Then ... the 11th horn on the 4th beast, which represents the 4th Kingdom. Are you saying the EU is the 4th Knigdom?
Looking at the rest ... please show how any of those scriptures lead to your conclusions.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/17/10|
Scriptures identify the Antichrist:
-is he single? Dan 11:37, Isa 14:14 to emulate the Messiah he won't marry
-lineage from Spain? Dan 7:8 Spain was 11th nation the little horn that rised out of E.U aka Revived Roman Empire
-under age 40? Psalm 55:20-23
-attractive? Dan 7:20 Ezek 28:12 & 17, Jesus was rejected bec of His looks, Isa 53:2
-has socialist/communist views? Dan 24:24 will scatter the riches
-serve a foreign god but acting like a christian? Dan 11:38-39 1John 2:18-19
-unique jewish name sounds like God's name Elyon? John 5:43 & Rev 13:1 & 6
-has military background? Rev 13:4 & Dan 7:24 who can make war with him?
-from a humble background? Dan 11:23 will become strong with a small people
---sandrad67 on 10/16/10|
Yes Sandrad, plz post the scriptures.
---JackB on 10/13/10|
Sandra ... yes please do for "
has socialist/communist views?"
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/13/10|
I look at whats happening in the world.
--The rise of Islam (their messiah has not come- the Mahdi)
--Islams growin hatred for Jews and Christians
--The worlds infatuation with alien life
--The growing belief that in 2012 cataclysmic events will occur and ancient "gods" will make themselves known
I always found it rather strange that Daniel 2:43 mentions that his kingdom will "mingle themselves with the seed of men",will be "exceeding dreadful " and "diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth" (Dan 7:19,23)
I think hes gonna be an "alien" or claim to be one. Unbelievers WANT their messiah to prove the non-existence of God
---JackB on 10/13/10|
Thanks Lady V for the lucid comment...but seriously seeing we are down to the wire of time before Christ returns, I'm noticing many are having prophetic dreams that coincides with the word of God concerning the man of sin aka Antichrist and wanted to hear from some. He's the final despot Satan will use after the rapture. .
Yes many scriptures gives us details of him that's why when we have these dreams it must match with the word of God. Such as
is he single?
lineage from Spain?
under age 40?
has socialist/communist views?
serve a foreign god but acting like a christian?
unique jewish name?
has military background?
from a humble background?...
I can give scriptures for all these if you like.
---sandrad67 on 10/12/10|
Read the book of revelations for yourself, and you will learn about the Anti Christ.
---Lady_V on 10/8/10|
I believe that it would be acurte to say that
the prophet DANIEL and the revelator JOHN had dreams concerning the anti-Christ. We are
encouraged to read and understand the books which explain the dreams in some details,
Bravo to Mima! I think she is on the right path!
---Pierre on 10/8/10|
prophetic revelations of the antichrist? isn't that in daniel & revelations?
didn't john already dream the beast & antichrist?
it's not dreams or prophetic revelations but waiting for them to unfold.
---mike on 10/7/10|
Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last day,saith God,I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh:and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,and your young men shall see visions,and your old men shall dream,dreams. Evidently just like the Holy Spirit was only given to Prophets,Priests,and Kings in the Old Testament and in the New Testament God gives the Gift of the Holy Ghost to all who seek,the prophesy,dreams and visions by Christians are now given more freely also. I never had a dream of the AntiChrist but I did have one,while yet a child,of the end of the World when fire and brimstone is falling through the air. I have had prophetic dreams that came to pass.
---Darlene_1 on 10/6/10|
\\That's an interesting test question,. .....then ones might answer that dreams are very important\\
Jesus is unique. There's only one incarnation of the Logos.
However, dreams are NOT unique to one human being, nor, even to the species (if the moving legs and whimpers of animals in sleep is any indication).
Here are the only dreams of any significance in the Bible:
1. The dreams of Joseph.
2. The dreams of Pharaoh (and possibly of his butler and baker).
3. The dream of Nebuchadnezzar.
4. The dreams of St. Joseph around the Incarnation of Christ.
5. The dream of the Magi.
6. The dream of Paul about the Macedonians.
As I've said, in 4,000 years, this suggests that dreams are not usually important.
---Cluny on 10/6/10|
I'd rather dream of Elvis Presley before I dream of the anti-christ!!!!! Kidding of course, but my answer is no, no dreams or prophetic revelations of the anti-christ.
Would God reveal to one person who the anti-christ is? For what reason would God reveal it to just one person? (just curious).
I have had dreams where Jesus appeared to me in them and in each of them gave me specific instructions to my personal situations that He knew I was seeking for. Thank you Jesus for being the kind, wonderful Lord and Saviour that you are!
---Donna5535 on 10/6/10|
"There are fewer than a dozen dreams of any prophetic significance in its pages.
"What does this tell you about the importance of dreams?" Cluny asks, on 10/6/10.
That's an interesting test question, Cluny. There is only one Jesus Christ in the Bible, and yet Jesus is so very important. So, since the number of dreams is close to the number one, of Jesus, then ones might answer that dreams are very important (c:
Can a dream be important, though small in number like Jesus? I consider the dreams Joseph had, that his brothers would be subject to him. What these dreams turned out to mean has been quite significant (Genesis 37-50).
---Bill on 10/6/10|
\\The Antichrist be a man who will rise up out of the (sea) of humanity around the Mediterranean.\\
Why will it be from around the Mediterranean? There are many seas on this planet.
\\This second beast is also known as the false prophet.(Important religious leader). The second beast causes an image of the first beast to be worshiped on penalty of death. This image will also speak\\
Ever hear of the gollem? (Common English spelling)
This is an image of man that could move and speak, invented by Rabbi Lowe of Prague, an important religious leader.
---Cluny on 10/6/10|
I have not had dreams but I have completed a short study of the Antichrist referred to in the book of Revelation as the beast.
The Antichrist be a man who will rise up out of the (sea) of humanity around the Mediterranean. He will have a companion, Revelation 13,11 "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon." This second beast is also known as the false prophet.(Important religious leader). The second beast causes an image of the first beast to be worshiped on penalty of death. This image will also speak. Read for yourself in the book of Revelation.
---mima on 10/6/10|
Pin the Tail on the Beast has been a favorite Christian parlor game for nearly 2000 years. Everyone from Nero to Arius to Mahomet to (of late) Obama has been called that.
The Bible tells us all we really need to know.
As far as dreams, the Bible covers 4000 years of human history between its covers. There are fewer than a dozen dreams of any prophetic significance in its pages.
What does this tell you about the importance of dreams?
---Cluny on 10/6/10|