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What Is A True Christian

Is not the difference between a Christian and a true Christian?

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Haz, it's hard to talk to a sinless person like you because when you lie, you call it Truth. You turn the Truth to a lie just, so that you show no sin. That's why you will die a physical death because you have a sinful nature. You have no glorified body Haz.
Concerning 1 Tim. 1:9, The law is not for the righteous because we are not under the law. The law is in our hearts now. The imputed righteousness of Christ.
1 Peter 4:18 refers to partaking of Christ's suffering. The Christian who is persecuted for his faith is a partner in the same kind of suffering Jesus endured-suffering for doing what is right (Matt. 5:10-12, Gal. 6:17). v. 14 "But on your part He is glorified." And we should not suffer as a murderer Etc.
---Mark_V. on 2/8/11

No there is no difference between the two. you are either a Christian or not. but most people use it to try and separate some people who call themselves ''Christians'', simply because i am called John, Peter of Mark it does not mean am a Christian. a Christian is a follower of Jesus that's it!!
---lincolin on 2/8/11

Haz 27 .. No I don't think I I do perfectly even on those sins ... do you?

But, with regard to accepting the atoning sacrifice, yes I do accept this, but that does not mean that when I am mean to someone, or neglectful of those who need help, those are not sins.

So too would it be a sin if I stole something, or fornicated, or committed murder.

But perhaps you think it is OK to do those things?

Why did Jesus say we should pray "Forgive us our sins"?
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/7/11

Mima-- There are those who claim that Paul's For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do is referring to his pre-salvation days. From the context of the passage, I don't see it that way. I believe Paul was describing a conflict all Christians experience to some degree.
Even as a Christian, Paul was very human.

But some who claim to be sinless (which we ARE, to God, because Christ is OUR righteousness), admit they are not perfect. They do "wrong things", but just don't want to call them sins.
---Donna66 on 2/7/11

I see you still avoid providing scriptures to support your "habitual" sin doctrine. Perhaps it is time to accept that God means what he says in 1John3:6-9 that Christians DO NOT SIN.

Do you accept 1Tim1:9 & 1Pet4:18 which clearly distinguishes 2 different groups?
Clearly there is NO righteous sinner so why oppose God's word?

You are stuck on 1John1:8. What do you think it means saying the "Truth" is not in me because I believe God says we do not sin?
---Haz27 on 2/7/11

Do you commit the following sins?

1:Blasphemy of Holy Spirit?
2:Unbelief in Jesus?
3:Do you not have righteousness in Christ Jesus?
4:Are you not justified by faith?
5:Are you STILL under the jurisdiction of the law of sin and death? In other words your old man was not crucified with Christ and you do not accept his attoning sacrifice?
---Haz27 on 2/7/11

Read Rom7 from beginning to understand context.
Verse5: "For when we WERE in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law..."
Verse6 "But NOW we are delivered from the law..."
From verse 7 it speaks of how the law showed up sin. Clearly our flesh cant get it right, but the inward man can get it right with God.

One of them has to go. It is through Christ our Lord that we are "delivered from the body of this death".

Sin was condemned in the flesh. The old man was crucified with Christ. We still see our physical is here doing things wrong but remember, we walk by faith. See Christ in yourself, not the old sinful man (who wants you back into self-righteousness and unbelief).
---Haz27 on 2/7/11

Haz 2: I can understand the reason Duane says what he says, He wants to be consider sinless because Christ has forgiven his sins, and wants to be recognize as saint. Not a sinner. We are saints before God because of the imputed righteousness of Christ, but underneath we are sinners. We are not sinners because we sin, but we sin because we are sinners. The flesh has not been redeemed. Our minds are been renewed. Only One has a perfect body, Jesus Christ. No one alive has a glorified body. If they did they would not die. And we all die. I hope I helped explain my answers to you.
---Mark_V. on 2/7/11

Was the apostle Paul savd? The answer of course is yes!!! What is the apostle Paul free of Sin? The answer is no. Let us let Paul speak for himself, Romans 7:17-18-19

17-Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18-For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19-For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

The only part of Paul that did not sin was the indwelling Holy Spirit in him.
---mima on 2/7/11

Duane ... You seem to be saying that just because we have been saved, we can behave as we like, and yet we are not in sin.
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/7/11

Haz ... Just so I understand what you say ... presumably, a Christian wwho commits theft, or rapes, or steals or bears false winess ... he does not sin?
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/7/11

A true Christian follows the example of Jesus. Jesus did not sin! He told the adulteress "go and sin no more."

1Jn 3:4, 6-9 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. ... Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil, for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
---jerry6593 on 2/7/11

Haz, let me start again, I do not know who is saved and who is not. I can only answer by what they write. You say you are without sin, and Scripture declares "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the Truth is not in you"
I was quoting from Scripture. I don't condemn you brother, I was saying what Scripture says about those who claim to be sinless. When a person says his without sin, they sin, because it is not true. Only Christ Jesus was sinless. There is many reasons why we are sinners, sins of Omission, sins of attrition, having a sinful flesh that will die. Been deceived is not an excuse. That's why, "All come short of the glory of God"
---Mark_V. on 2/7/11

If there is a danger in a christians belief, it would be
NOT believing Jesus came to put AWAY sin,to set men free from sin,therefore denying the power of the Cross. To say we are still sinners is a direct insult to the ONE who bore and became sin just for you.
If Jesus Christ did not free us from sin,we are then under the power of sin, then there is NO Gospel(good news) to proclaim. Your faith is truely in vain.
---duane on 2/7/11

In your post you asked if I do things wrong still.
Answer: Yes. I agree with most here that even as Christians we do go astray sometimes.
Is it called sin?
See my previous post with God's definitions of sin.

1Tim1:9 and 1Pet4:18 clearly show there are 2 different types of people.
2:Ungodly & Sinners
Knowing such scriptures why would anyone continue calling Christians, who are the "righteous", as "sinners".
This is opposing what God says?
Do you agree?
---Haz27 on 2/7/11

Haz 2: I can understand the reason Duane says what he says, He wants to be consider sinless because Christ has forgiven his sins, and wants to be recognize as saint. Not a sinner. We are saints before God because of the imputed righteousness of Christ, but underneath we are sinners. We are not sinners because we sin, but we sin because we are sinners. The flesh has not been redeemed. Our minds are been renewed. Only One has a perfect body, Jesus Christ. No one alive has a glorified body. If they did they would not die. And we all die. I hope I helped explain my answers to you.
---Mark_V. on 2/7/11

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alan of_uk:
You are correct saying
"all depends on what you say sin is."

God says sin is:

Blasphemy (Mark3:29)
Christians dont blaspheme? Hence no sin.

Unbelief (John16:9)
Christians believe on Jesus. Hence no sin.

Unrighteousness (1John5:17)
Christians are righteous in Christ. Hence no sin.

No faith (Rom14:23)
Christians are justified by faith. Hence no sin.

Transgressing the law (1John3:4).
Christians are set free from the law (Rom8:2). Where there is no law there is no transgression (sin) (Rom4:15). Hence no sin.

A true Christian does not sin being under the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.
---Haz27 on 2/6/11

On the way to the store, you are confronted by ten beggars not all at the same time. The first beggar asks for spare change and you gladly give a dollar. The second, more apprehensively. When you finally reach the tenth beggar, you just walk by him wearing a fake smile and shake your head. Do you treat all the begars the same or do you get more and more aggrevated as you pass each one?

Why do you people complicate the definition of a christian?

There is only one word that is above all commandments - LOVE. While the bible defines love (1 Corinthians 13) it doesn't come close to the true spiritual meaning. Love is not a thing, it is a verb. How do you show love with God? How do you show love with others?
---Steveng on 2/6/11

A true christian shows true love - consistantly - to God and to others.

And if giving those beggars money that broke your bank account, do you not have enough faith that God will reward you with greater funds for you to give out? If you show God that you are responsible in little things, how much more will he will give you in greater things.
---Steveng on 2/6/11

Haz ... What is God's definition of sin?

You refer to Mark's views being dngerous.

I would say that far more dangerous is your belief that you do not sin. Now this is very dangerous!

But is does all depend on what you say sin is, and whether it ties in with what God means by sin.
---alan8566_of_uk on 2/6/11

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1Tim1:15 can ONLY be taken as referring to Paul's past before salvation. Verse 13 puts it in the context of when he blasphemed etc. These are the grounds for claiming to be chief sinner in his PAST record?

Regarding Rom7:25, Christians are not serving the law of God AND the law of sin simultaneously as you suggest. Read Rom8:1 "who walk NOT after the flesh, but after the Spirit".

Also consider Rom6:6,7 we were crucified with him that body of sin might be destroyed. Rom6:22 "now being made FREE FROM SIN,". Note it says "wages of sin is death".

Rom6:2 asks "HOW shall we that are dead to sin live any longer in it". If you use God's definitions of sin you will understand.
---Haz27 on 2/5/11

Haz7--- I can see how you might interpret 1st Timothy 1:15 as referring to Paul's past life But
Rom 7:18-19 is so obviously written in the present tense...and he is speaking to fellow Christians.

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would, I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:24-25 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

Do you never act in the flesh instead of the spirit?
---Donna66 on 2/5/11

Your assertion that Duanne and I "do not have the Truth" is unfounded. One wonders if you realise what you are saying in making such dangerous claims.

And, consider your claim we still sin. Your doctrine is based on man's ambiguous definition of sin. You dont even bother referring to God's definitions. Are God's definitions too specific and dangerous to your doctrine?

Also you continue to avoid my request for scriptural support to your "habitual" sin doctrine. Scripture supports scripture. If there is nothing then it is false doctrine.

1Tim1:9 and 1Pet4:18 clearly states you are either righteous OR a sinner. There is no righteous sinner as you claim. Why do you contradict God?

---Haz27 on 2/5/11

Haz, I respect your views and those of Duane's. But again I have to tell you both that the Truth is not in you. You want to escape sin but no matter what you do in this life, you cannot. It's impossible. " All come short of the glory of God" Rom. 3:23. By the Spirit we can be brought out of Spiritual death but not physical death, for we still have sin because we still have our bodies and they will die because of sin. The body is sinful and you cannot get out of your body. You are walking around with a sinful body that will die one day, and please don't claim you have a glorified body already because it will die. "We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners"
---Mark_V. on 2/5/11

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After he was knocked off the horse by the Lord, he still sinned and mentioned that in Romans 7:14-20 where he struggles with sin within him.
---Mark_V. on 1/26/11

Romans 7 is a bridge between Romans 6 and 8.. Paul concludes in Ro 7...who will deliver me from the body of this death..answer JESUS CHRIST...then proceeds to romans 8, one delivered from sin now walking in the Spirit, one who is IN CHRIST!
---kathr4453 on 2/2/11

The Lord Jesus i believe defines a true Christian in John4:24, anyone living contrary to this definition is not a true Christian.
---Adetunji on 1/31/11

It's good to see you admit that Paul in 1Tim1:15 is referring to himself "sinner" in his past, BEFORE becoming a Christian.

But you still have no scriptural backing for your doctrine of "habitual" sin let alone that Christians still sin.

And you do realise we should not add to God's word, so why would you add "habitual" to 1John3:6-9?

---Haz27 on 1/26/11

Haz, you confuse the issue of sin, using different context. In 1 Tim, Paul says, "Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief" Chief, literally "first" in rank. Few could be considered worse sinner than someone who blaspheme God and persecuted His Church (1 Cor. 15:9, Eph. 3:8). Paul's attitude toward himself dramatically changed once he was saved for v. 16 says, "For this reason I obtain mercy" meaning Paul thought of himself one of the worst yet God had mercy on him. (Phil. 3:7-9, and Romans 7:7-12) His thoughts before conversion. After he was knocked off the horse by the Lord, he still sinned and mentioned that in Romans 7:14-20 where he struggles with sin within him.
---Mark_V. on 1/26/11

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As you claim that your "habitual sin" doctrine gives you a good idea of whether a person is a Christian or not, based on how much they sin, I have the following question for you.

Of course you believe Paul was still a sinner as a Christian. 1Tim1:15 we see Paul describes himself as "CHIEF" sinner. As "CHIEF" sinner does your "habitual sin" doctrine show he is not a Christian?
---Haz27 on 1/24/11

Haz, do not confuse the passages of Scripture. A person cannot live a good enough life to warrant salvation because we are saved by Grace through faith, no merits of our own are involved.
But once a person claims he is save by Grace through faith, you can judge if that person is saved or not by the good deeds he displays, because true faith, that comes from God, always produces good works.
Here on the website, I can judge by what people say and how they say it if they are truly saved or not. It does not mean that we are God and can really tell, but gives us enough information to make a judgment.
---Mark_V. on 1/24/11

Mark_V you said:
"Another way that people falsely assure themselves is by believing that they will get to heaven by trying to live a good life."

But you claim in your "habitual sin" doctrine that if you don't live a good enough life then that is evidence that you are of the devil.
Both these views of yours contradict each other.

Duanne is right: "A true Christian is a believer who will trust in the work of the Cross and ressurection of Jesus Christ.
---Haz27 on 1/22/11

A true Christian is one who places their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ as his personal savior and lives a life of obedience to the Son of God and the things which he has commanded us to do.

We are to be forgiving, merciful, compassionate and not JUDGE people according to the law. That is the life Jesus Christ lived when he was here. That is the life He wants to live thru us.
---CraigA on 1/22/11

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Good points MarkV!
---John on 1/22/11

If you ask, everyone says they are christian. If you ask "have you been born again", you get a funny look. That is the difference. True christians are born of the spirit.
---shira3877 on 1/22/11

There are many who confidently believe that they are save but are not. These people have assurance of salvation without salvation. Their assurance is a false assurance. The easiest way to have a false assurance of salvation is to have a false doctrine of salvation. Example,
Every person is saved, I am a person, therefore I am saved. Because the doctrine is faulty, their assurance has no firm basis.
Another way that people falsely assure themselves is by believing that they will get to heaven by trying to live a good life. Those who think they are living a good enough life to satisfy the demands of a Holy God are only deluding themselves.
---Mark_V. on 1/22/11

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 7:21

John 10

26 "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you."

27 "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:"

28 "And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."

29 "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand."
---christan on 1/21/11

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John, one has to be married FIRST to be divorced.
---kathr4453 on 1/21/11

The Church is the bride of Christ Kathr4453.

Please study!
---John on 1/21/11

Those who married The World, have divorced Christ.
---John on 1/20/11

John, one has to be married FIRST to be divorced. So you say those who were once married to Christ, now have divorced him and married the world?
---kathr4453 on 1/21/11

A true Christian is a believer and will trust in the work of the Cross and ressurection of Jesus Christ.
They will defend with their lives the Gospel of Christ, which is, setting men free from sin so they can inherit eternal life through faith in HIM...
---duane on 1/20/11

True Christains are those who worship G-d with all their heart, all their strength, all their mind.

They follow G-ds Holy Days and place Him above the traditions of Men (Infant Baptism/Pre-trib) and do NOT worship Pagan Idols or Pagan Holy Days(Saints,Christmas/Easter)
regardless of how unpopular or what stigma it may give them to bear.(our cross)

For you see, True Christians NEVER seek the approval of Men or the comforts of this world. Those who married The World, have divorced Christ. They are the ones who call Lord! Lord! but he will not know them. They are the goats(Matt 25). Those who seek to enter through the broad path outside the door. Only true Christians(Chosen few) will enter the narrow door of Christ.
---John on 1/20/11

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Revelation 14:12 they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelation 12:17 which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Isaiah 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.
---francis on 1/17/11

The true Christian knows whose name is in the White Stone of Rev: 2 Vs. 17, and that he cannot stand before GOD with a flesh man name=666. If you need to know more visit my new Web site. Since the web site does not care for another Christians web site I cannot help you more.
---lamar_tucker on 1/15/11

To me a True Christian is someone who realizes they are a sinner, on their way to hell, in need of a Saviour. They sincerely repent of their sins by asking God to forgive them & asking Jesus Christ into their heart. Ask Him to cleanse you & renew a right Spirit within you. Invite Him to become Lord & Saviour of your life. After doing that, a true Christian should study God's Word in order to know how He wants us to live & serve Him properly. Spend time with Him in prayer daily. To me, this is a true, born again Christian.
---Reba on 11/15/10

This is the first time I came on to this blog question, it is not I who posted the question. I read the question and don't know what that Mark is asking. But I think he is asking, "what is the difference between someone who calls himself a Christian and a true Christian"
There are many who say they are Christian but never live a life for Christ. Most of the time you can see that by their works, sometimes you do not see their works because they hide it from others. Many are abusive where no one can see them, in their homes. Some speak evil with every word they say. While true Christians are not perfect, they have a new disposition to love the Lord, so a passion to please Christ, and a drive to be holy before God.
---Mark_V. on 11/9/10

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A true Christian loves GOD with all his heart mind and body. They also love their neighbor.
---Samuel on 11/8/10

I agree, JackB. However, faith confesses Jesus as Lord and believes God raised Him from the dead. Since no man can call Jesus "Lord" apart from the Holy Ghost, it stands to reason that the belief of the demons is not the saving faith of the believer.
---Linda on 11/8/10

Not but one definition of a true Christian, one whom God has chosen before the Creation of His world. There are many characteristics of a true Christian. Most of those are not reliable. [hypocrites will use them]. Has God chosen you? All that counts, my friend++
---catherine on 11/8/10

A person who is constantly seeking truth. The truth of ones self. The truth about Jesus. Who he really was and what he really believed.
---Patrick on 11/8/10

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//This Scripture only says they believe there is one God, not that they believe Jesus is Lord.//

I do think that the devils know who Christ is myself...

And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?...

So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine.
---JackB on 11/8/10

And to Marks question...

A true Christian has total trust in the work of God for his salvation and lives his life with the love of Jesus Christ. He loves the lost just as much as he does himself and he does not forget that he still does not deserve the salvation that he has been blessed with.

He is meek and lowly just like his God and Savior.
---JackB on 11/8/10

Even though the word Christian is contained in the Bible, I have long ago stopped using it. Within the USA, being a "christian" is just as American as apple pie and baseball.

Being a Christian is like being pregnant. Either you are or you are not, there is no in-between.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/8/10

What separates those who belong to Christ and those pretending to belong to Christ is "Faith". True Faith is from God and it comes with knowledge, conviction and trust in His Son.

John 17:3 - "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

2 Peter 1:8 - "For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ."

The only common ground a Christian and a false christian have is the name Jesus Christ. However, the person behind the name is heaven and hell apart. One has the Holy Spirit leading him and the other is totally void.
---christan on 11/8/10

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James did not tells us "even the demons believe."

James says the devils believe in one god and not that they believe in/on Jesus.
---aka on 11/8/10

\\True Christians avoid paganism and false teachings of Babylon (Rev.18:4).
---David8318 on 11/7/1\\

That's why I'm Orthodox.

We are the original Christians.
---Cluny on 11/8/10

Thou believest that there is one God, thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. The context is in regards to faith and what you do with the hungry and the naked in body. It takes faith to lay down your selfish wants and fears to give to the need of another. Devils don't do this. This Scripture only says they believe there is one God, not that they believe Jesus is Lord. Many people will say they believe in God, but when you mention Jesus the conversation takes a turn for the worse, mainly because the church has so misrepresented Him that no one wants to have anything to do with Him.
---Linda on 11/8/10

Mark, as usual Darlene has the most accurate response. Linda, one can believe in Jesus but James tells us "even the demons believe." Believing in Jesus is not enough.

Mark-remember the parable of the Seed and the Sower? Remember when Jesus said some seed fell on rocky ground? Some seed took root? Well Jesus is explaining the difference in who receives and obeys the Word of God (the seed is the Word) and who thinks they are but aren't. "Many will say to me Lord Lord, didn't we cast out demons in your name?" And Jesus will say to them, "Begone from me, I never knew you."
---Donna5535 on 11/8/10

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I think of someone is a Christian, he's a true Christian. Not up to me to decide who is true. Let the devil do the accusing.
---Juanito on 11/8/10

True Christians are true, and fake Christians are fake and hypocrites: the good tree bears Christ's fruit and is righteous, and the nonChristian tree bears rotten fruit and is sinuous.
---Eloy on 11/8/10

A Christian is anyone who is constantly giving all they are to Him. A true Christian is one who is always trying to do more of what Christ emulated to us. Christ-like behavior, not going to church or praying or "believing" in God, is the deciding factor. A Christian is never perfect, or we would then be God. Yet, we are always seeking more ways we can further act out His words and will every day of our lives.
---Erica on 11/7/10

A Christian is, it seems, to be just about everyone in this here nation and in this world. Because of that misconception, I usually place the word true in front of the word, Christian. A Christian is in name only. A true Christian has the living God in them and with them, and is guided by the Person of the Holy Spirit, day and night....Does anyone know what time it is. Did THE TIME CHANGE LAST NIGHT? Let me know so my mind can be at rest in this matter.
---catherine on 11/7/10

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What makes any of us right is not our theology or doctrine. It is Jesus Christ. Is doesn't get any simpler than that.
---Linda on 11/7/10

It's been an encouragement to me to understand that we shouldn't expect our brothers and sisters to get it right...they won't.
People are too stubborn and pig headed in their ways. Weather God will forgive and accept them in the end is most thankfully not for me to determine.

This makes playing God in the here and now even less sensible. The greatest temptation at this is standing in front of a gathering of people week after week and looking into their eyes. 'Boy here comes miss so in so, she doesn't get it...' You catch yourself thinking this junk. I did many times, and in this you get refined to start looking more inwardly through the 'Geee is this guy saved lens' more and more. That's where our focus belongs.
---Pharisee on 11/7/10

Yes there's a difference for there are many people who follow the teaching of the Bible and go to church all the time being called Christians,but they haven't really been saved. On the surface they appear to be Christian but I have heard of people like that who worked in the church,but one day God's Spirit quickens them and their own heart condems them as sinners. At that time they repent and become true believers in Christ,Christians. That happened to a friend,she said she was very surprised after working in the church for 20 years,even being a Sunday School Teacher to children,to realize she had never been saved during that whole time. I am not sure how that can happen,many reasons I would think,but it does.
---Darlene_1 on 11/7/10

A true christian is the one whom countinuasly walks in the path of the Lord. Does both what Jesus the son & his father requests of them. they pic kup their cross daily. False christians are what I call "label christians" they put on the label or "nametag" but their daily lives show differetly. You are not a Chrisitan because you decide to show up to a building & sit in a pew, or have bible studies at home. you are a true christian by putting those scriptures in motion from what you learn from church and biblestudies and apply them to your life. many are called, but few are chosen.
---candice on 11/7/10

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Jesus Christ does raise an important issue at Matthew 7:21-23. He warns there would be counterfeit Christians who would refer to him as 'Lord', yet he will say to them 'get away from me you workers of lawlessness...'

What 'lawlessness' does this involve? Ultimately, it's failing to do the 'will of the Father'. False Christianity can be identified by such 'works of lawlessness':

- The trinity (1 Cor.15:28)
- Immortality of the human soul (Ezekiel 18:4)
- False hell-fire doctrine (Jeremiah 7:31, 1 John 4:8)
- Pagan Mithramas/Roman Saturnalia (False Christians call it 'Christmas')
- Pagan Easter (Estarte- goddess fertility worship)

True Christians avoid paganism and false teachings of Babylon (Rev.18:4).
---David8318 on 11/7/10

A true Christian is some who has given their whole life over to Christ. Has vowed to follow Him(Jesus) his teachings and way of life. They live this life everyday(24/7) Is walking in obedience to His teachings. Not just talking and being hypocritical. Because Jesus knows who belongs to Him and who does not. We love what Jesus loves and hate what He hates. We get our instructions from His Word( The Holy Bible). We remain faithful to Him, no matter what happens. One day if we remain faithful and true to Christ we will be with him in Eternity. Forever and ever. We will receive our reward. Nothing can come close or compare to what we will receive(in eternity) here on earth.
---Robyn on 11/7/10

do you love your enemies? do you do good and pray for those who despitefully use you and persecute you?would you lay down your life for a stranger?so many people talk about being like jesus,and thats all it is,TALK.
---tom2 on 11/7/10

Steveng Are you sure it was MarkV who posed the question?
---Pedant on 11/7/10

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What Mark V was actually saying is is there a difference between a person who calls himself christian and a true christian.

The strong delusion upon the world during these end days is people who go to a denominational church think they are a christian. They think that going to a building once a week to listen to a pep talk for an hour classifies them as christian. These christians are listeners only. They sit in their pews and listen to a watered down version of the gospel. They have the knowledge of God, but deny his power.

There is only one word that encompasses a true christian - LOVE. All christians know how to define LOVE, but very, very few know how to do it. For faith without works is dead faith.
---Steveng on 11/6/10

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Many believers...few true believers.

It's it His POV and not ours.
---aka on 11/6/10

Brother Mark, there are indeed "false christians" and we know that it was Christ who warned us in Matthew 24,

5 "For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and shall deceive many."

23 "Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there, believe it not." 24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." 25 "Behold, I have told you before."

Here, Christ warns of people who claim they are christians but are not, and only His elect will not be deceived.
---christan on 11/6/10

\\"In truth, there was only one Christian, and He Died on the Cross." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche\\

Obviously Nietzche knew nothing about Church history, but he wasn't all that pietzsche anyway.
---Cluny on 11/7/10

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-- Mark :

It looks like you're trying to ask, "Is there a difference between a Christian and a True Christian?"

Brother, There's NO difference between Christian & True Christian. The latter is just the world's way of trying to distinguish something as finite!!!

Whosoever has been Baptized into the one body of Christ(no matter what the world wishes to call them) has been made to drink into one Spirit : the Holy Spirit of our Lord & Savior and as the body is one, having many members & all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

"In truth, there was only one Christian, and He Died on the Cross." ~ Friedrich Nietzsche
---ShawnM.T. on 11/6/10

There is no such thing as a difference between a Christian and a true Christian. You have either believed on the Lord Jesus Christ or you haven't.
---Linda on 11/6/10

This is not a complete sentence, Mark.
---Cluny on 11/6/10

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