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Mark 16:15-16 says that we should spread the Bible and get people SAVED. How will GOD deal with Christians, from Babes to Pastors, who don't follow this?

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//But they can't argue against scripture, so they start a smoke screen of abusiveness to distract from the real issue.

That is exactly what you have been doing in rejecting such beliefs as predestination and foreordination. That is easy to see from your comments on Romans 9 regarding the Potter (God) and the clay (humankind), your war is really against those who have the scriptural backing for what they believe.

To regain your lost credibility you should learn to accept correction and not let your pride get in the way.

Pr 9:9 Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser, teach a righteous man, and he will increase in learning.

Kathr, I think it may also work for a woman as well who would be wise.
---leej on 12/14/10

Mark ... You surpass yourself!

You say I have refused your peace. What peace have you offered when you in fact you have thrown in my face the lie that I say the Gospel is filth?

To the lie that Kathr called the Gospel filthy, you now add the lie that she has denied the very deity of Christ.

As for Dawkins, I don't need to quote the actual passages ... I was using him as an example of those of the World who call the gospel filthy. As do most atheists.
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/14/10

Alan, thank you, but markv, leej, and even donna66 now are actually getting OFF on what they are doing. They get a high on getting others upset.

MarkV called what I said filth. I put 3 scriptures showing repentance leads to salvation. He LIED, called it filth with the comment I had no scripture to back up what I said.

You see, teh real issue here is that repentance, or turning to Christ for salvation leads to salvation.

But they can't argue against scripture, so they start a smoke screen of abusiveness to distract from the real issue.

We all see it Alan. We need to pray for their salvation. We KNOW Christians do not falsely accuse one another. They are the ones attacking CHRISTIANS!!
---kathr4453 on 12/14/10

Alan, first, I do not read Dr. Richard Dawkins books. Second, you did not give book name and chapter. "Your word is not good enough anymore. You refused my peace and threw it in my face. You do not defend the Gospel, you defend someone who opposes the Word of God. Who questions the very deity of Christ and who called the gospel filthy. Most of you who challenge me can only challenge me with words, not with anything God has to say. Why? Because you cannot believe what He says about Himself. So you ignore His Word when it fits your own believes.
---Mark_V. on 12/14/10

Mark ... You should read what Dr Richard Dawkins says about the Gospel ... He (and he represents the world)makes it out to be filth.

Then you may realise what Kathr meant by quoting the Bible (1 Cor. 4:10,13)

You know that single verses in the Bible sometimes can only make sense in the context of precesding and following passages

Do Kathr the courtesy of reading ALL she said, and you will see she did not say the Gospel is filth (except to the world)
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/14/10

Sag, Jesus gave the disciples clear instructions,
"go into all the world" and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved, but he who does not believe will be condemned."
We cannot save anyone, only God can do that. Our job is to preach the gospel, and if anyone believes it and gets baptized they will be saved. If they don't they are considered condemned. Maybe at a later time they will hear it again and believe it that time, when they do they will be save.
Also what has to be pointed out, Mark 16:9-20 these verses were not originally part of Mark's gospel. It is stated that while the majority of Gr. manuscripts contain these verse, the earliest and most reliable do not.
---Mark_V. on 12/14/10

We DON'T get people saved EVER!!!

And this passage never said to do that.

Uzzah put out his hand to the ark of God and took hold of it, for the oxen stumbled. And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Uzzah, and God struck him down there because of his error, and he died there beside the ark of God.
2SAM 6:6,7
---John on 12/13/10

Donna66, Kathr statements again I will post,

"We are called the off-scoffing and FILTH of the world! If you are "Preaching the Filth of the Gospel" to who so ever will, you are in GREAT Company!"
If you are preaching the filth of the gospel is clearly shown by her words. There is nothing filthy of the gospel, and defending the Gospel is the duty of all genuine believers. Concerning your statement I will not respond to it, for it will do you and I no good.
---Mark_V. on 12/13/10

leej, are you serious? you recmmend one theology over another. Run calvinism down our throats, insist your 1500 history makers molded your thinking, recommend to me this book and that...

so I took you up on it and read one you recommended, also stating you gave 2 away to your relatives..

And then you accuse me of being carnal because I stated I agree with someone.

My mind was made up years before I read chafer or even knew who he was.
Why do you twist and project on others your faults?

Does it make you FEEL more spiritual, more powerful. To me it makes you look confused as others are also commenting on your IRONIC statements.
---kathr4453 on 12/13/10

Mark ... Mark .. Why do yuo go on LYING?

As on many occasions before you accuse me of something which I have not said

You say that I have called the Gospel filth. THAT IS A LIE

I specifically said that the world will call the Gospel filth

And you persist in your lie that Kathr called the Gospel filth.

Why do you not have the courage and decency to withdraw your despicable lies, and perhaps apologise.
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/13/10

1 Cor. 4:10,13 We are fools for Christs sake...Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, the offscouring of all things unto this day.

But Kathr is not not advocating the gospel but dispensationism.

IMHO, she & others have fallen into that pit the Apostle Paul warned us about in 1 Cor. 1:12

"Now this I say, every one of you saith, I am of Paul, and I of Apollos, and I of Cephas, and I of Christ." or to put it in modern terms "I am for Calvin, I am for Chafer, I am for Luther, I am for Scofield, I am for Nieburh, I am for Barth, ad neauseum."

The trap is they side with the peculiar teachings of some church leader but fail to realize much of their teachings are academic.
---leej on 12/12/10

I don't recall ANYBODY here calling the Gospel "filthy".
Why all the accusations! Satan is the "accuser of the brethren"
---Donna66 on 12/12/10

Laura //leej and markv, I found a good laugh when I found this.1 Corinthians 4:13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

The laugh is really on you as you have mis-read the verse. It states "we" are made the filth of the world, not the gospel was made filth of the world.

The gospel is howbeit a sweet aroma to those who are being saved but a stench in the nostils of those who would reject it. 2 Cor. 2:15
---leej on 12/12/10

Alan, your going nuts hand in hand with Kathr. The blind leading the blind but don't call the Gospel filthy. The passage says,
That the apostles and early preachers lived at the lowest levels of society. While the Corinthians believers thought they were kings, (v.8) the apostle Paul knew he was a suffering slave (2 Cor. 1:8,9, 4:8-12, 6:4-10, 11:23-28). The apostles did manual labor which Greeks including some in the church at Cor. considered beneath their dignity and suitable only for slaves. Filth and Offscouring, refers to the scum and dregs scraped from a dirty dish or garbage Pot, figuratively used of the lowest. But those verses never say the Gospel itself is filthy. If kathr wants to be filthy, that is ok with me.
---Mark_V. on 12/12/10

Part 2: Alan I have never heard anyone calling the gospel filthy, only Kathr and you agree with her. Don't try to twist your way out. Admit it, if you are a child of God. You cannot admit that you are so wrong because if you do you lose face with everyone. And you are more concern for keeping face then for the Truth. I really don't care about keeping face, as long as I am not ashamed of bringing the Gospel Truth even to those who slander me. I do not live for them, I live for Christ. You have already taken a side. One thing you are not, and that is a defender of the Faith.
---Mark_V. on 12/12/10

//leej even admited on another blog, that one thing they are guilty of is not preaching the Gospel.

There you go again, twisting the daylights out of what was posted but such are they that slander other Christians and are blind to your own sinfulness.

While one of the criticism of Calvinism is we need not witness to others since they are predestined to eternal life, there is still that command to harvest the souls of those whom God has chosen.

Romans 10:4 But how are they to call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?
---leej on 12/12/10

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MarkV You must hate it when you are found out.

Look at 1 Cor 4. 13 and you will see thast we will be called filthy> Can you not see that Kathr was right then that what we preach (the Gospel) will be called filthy.

As other have said, it is obvious what she meant. It is so sad that you still accuse her.

Yes, sad.
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/12/10

Mark ...
Kathr did not say the Gospel is filth. Taken in context of her previous sentence, she was saying the world will call the Gospel filth (and indeed it does)

Others have seen clearly what she was saying.

Can you be man enough to admit you misread her?
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/12/10

Thank you Alan. I so appreciate intelligent people who can read.

As for those who attack the ones bringing the Gospel of whosoever will to those lost,many here object to.

We are told we are teaching filth. That it is not whosoever will.

leej even admited on another blog, that one thing they are guilty of is not preaching the Gospel.

So, he wouldn't know then any persecution/name calling/hardships that come to those who do.

---kathr4453 on 12/12/10

There is no hostility from me against Kathr, I am defending the Word of God. You prefer to be friends with her no matter what she says, I don't.
1 Cor. 4:11, nowhere says that the Gospel of Christ is filthy. Not one mention of the Gospel. So your remarks to me are worthless. They only show what side you are on. Her remarks added the gospel which is never filthy. Her dumb words to try to sound religious. All the words she says are false and useless and are intended to start trouble. They do not edify anyone. And when you realize that, "maybe you are not destined to, you will see her errors and blasphemies. And want to change sides, if not, it was already ordain you wouldn't, only time will tell.
---Mark_V. on 12/12/10

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leej and markv, I found a good laugh when I found this.

1 Corinthians 4:13
13Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

But what about you? If all you do is read books, intoxicated by the wonder of your own election, exalting yourselves over everyone here, twisting, mis-quoting, to your own enjoyment, are you really bringing Glory to God or to yourselves?
---Laura on 12/12/10

//There is nothing filthy about the Gospel of Christ,...

Very true and there are some on this forum that are here only to cause dissension.

I found it a good laugh when she tried in vain to identify Calvin with prosperity teaching.

She should find a good book on what constitutes the Christian faith & doctrine and read it before she opens her garbage lid.
---leej on 12/11/10

Mark in your hostility to Kathr, you have ignored what Kathr actually said, and by leaving out a crucial bit, you totally misunderstood what she meant.

This is what she said

"We are called the off-scoffing and FILTH of the world! If you are Preaching the Filth of the Gospel to who so ever will, you are in GREAT Company!"

Do you not recognise 1 Cor 4.11?

Take both sentences together, and you will see she is not saying Gospel is filth, but that the world will call it that.

I am sure you did not intend to misrepresent her words so badly, but merely misunderstood them. and I am sure too that you will feel inclined to withdraw your attack on her.
---alan8566_of_UK on 12/11/10

//We are called the off-scoffing and FILTH of the world! If you are Preaching the Filth of the Gospel to who so ever will, you are in GREAT Company! //

I think it was obvious she was speaking of the "Filth" of the gospel from a worldly point of view, Mark. Not that SHE thinks the gospel is filth. Either you misunderstood or knew exactly what she meant and just wanted to take a cheap shot.

Ive asked this before and was never answered. What nationality are you? I ask because it seems you struggle with reading comprehension which would certainly explain your problems with misinterpreting many scriptures.
---JackB on 12/11/10

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And again here is another dumb (knows not what she is talking about) remark,

"If you are Preaching the Filth of the Gospel to who so ever will, you are in GREAT Company"

There is nothing filthy about the Gospel of Christ, it is called the Good News. Was it filth that Christ died on the Cross? Or that He resurrected? Is it filth that He forgave the sins of those who believe by faith in Him? She is trying to sound righteous, with stupid words concerning the Gospel of Christ. Words from someone who didn't have faith or a contrite heart when she said she committed her life to Christ. I'm waiting for others to approve. Why not give her an amen Steven and those others who enjoy what she says.
---Mark_V. on 12/11/10

kathryn //I believe the best way one can witness to the unsaved is to give them literature.

Having been active in a Bible distributing society for over 30 years, I have seen and read of many that have come to faith because of the Bibles & testaments distributed to unbelievers. In fact, the organization has even published at least a dozen books on nothing more than testimonies. It works.

What literature should be distributed? strictly that which depicts the gospel message according to Scripture.

World Literature Crusade is yet another organization with thousands of testimonial returns.
---leej on 12/10/10

I believe the best way one can witness to the unsaved is to give them literature.

---leej on 12/7/10

Yea, but who's literature. The JW's Watchtower literature? The Mormon's literature?

How blessed are those who PREACH the Gospel. And how persecuted are those who do.

We are called the off-scoffing and FILTH of the world! If you are Preaching the Filth of the Gospel to who so ever will, you are in GREAT Company! Your in the company of God who commanded we preach the Gospel to all nations.

God never asked we POLICE one's faith or even Question where it came from.

That't HIS JOB!!! It's GOD who Justified the Ungodly...NOT YOU christian or markv or leej!
---kathr4453 on 12/10/10

He's going to deal with it for sure. Those who stand in the way of those who preach the Gospel so others can receive salvation..((faith comes by hearing, and we need to preach so they can hear.))

will come face to face with God's wrath.

We see so many here doing just that. ARGUING is forbidding one to speak. Twisting truth, false accusations and lies to slander and defame will be dealt with. It is obstructing the Gospel and I believe is intentional!

Thessalonians 2:16
Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

OH Yea, they will even twists and slander this verse too! Just watch!
---kathr4453 on 12/9/10

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Literature is a great way to reach some people, since they can read it thoughtfully and in private. The is no one method that is best for ALL.

In personal evangelism, some people will agree, agree, agree...say a prayer..just so you'll then leave them alone.
---Donna66 on 12/7/10

leej: "I believe the best way one can witness to the unsaved is to give them literature."

Why is it always "I believe?" How about what the bible says to do. It's full of examples about how to do it. Jesus demonstrated this without distributing literature.

leej: "if you do not belong to any of the Bible societies, support would be to your credit in spreadng the Word of God."

Today's christians are lazy. They would rather spend money for other poeple to do what they are suppose to do on a personal level. A multitude of sins are covered by every person you personally bring into the Kingdom of God.
---Steveng on 12/7/10

//Mark 16:15-16 says that we should spread the Bible and get people SAVED.

I believe the best way one can witness to the unsaved is to give them literature.

Having participated for over 30 years in a Bible distribution society, I have seen several come to faith.

However, if you do not belong to any of the Bible societies, support would be to your credit in spreadng the Word of God.

//How will GOD deal with Christians, from Babes to Pastors, who don't follow this?

No reward and possibly a guenching or grieving of the Holy Spirit.
---leej on 12/7/10

Years ago while witnessing I had the experience of being told by the Holy Spirit to stop talking, this man will not hear you. I offer that statement has a way of explanation of why I do not say much more. Today I spent about 90% of my time in transportation wheelchair. One of my closest friends told me they believe my troubles(had blood clots after a heart attack and had to have my feet amputated) was for the sole purpose of keeping me humble. This person has been privy to many things that have happened. And this person says about many things, I would not have believed it if I had not seen it.
Still I regret not being believed.
---mima on 12/7/10

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I do learn a lot from Mima. He has a heart for Christ. His conversations are always about God that is a very great attribute. Some of the things he says I do not agree but that is only my opinion when he gives his opinions. When he gives Scripture I always check it with Scripture. Many times I disagree and tell him why, and other times I agree and tell him so.
---Mark_V. on 12/7/10

//they didn't yet fit into one Accord. --aka on 12/6/10//

aka, if that is the reason, did they ever fit into one accord?
---michael_e on 12/7/10

they didn't go very far. Has to be a good reason ---michael_e on 11/27/10

they didn't yet fit into one Accord.
---aka on 12/6/10

donna66, thank you for posting that information. This is absolutely true. and I know of such a one.

mima, THAT is why the Lord said Keep speaking.

markv, don't be so quick to say something is bogus. mima was telling us some experience he had, and you need to listen and learn.
---kathr4453 on 12/7/10

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Mima, thank you for giving the story and as I said before, it is important to be working for the cause of Christ. That was never the reason I answered you. It was when you compared your works with others. yours are correct and not the others. That was all.

Steven G, thank you for your opinion, it is always opinions you give me, which as I said before they mean nothing to me. Your denial and trashing of Christ Churches already tells me what you believe. So thanks again.
---Mark_V. on 12/7/10

Mima: The man's behavior was unusual...the shaking his head, cussing etc. It sounds quite a bit like Tourette Syndrome. Or it could be some kind of focal seizure. Both behaviors would be involuntary. And neither would prevent him from hearing, understanding and accepting the Gospel.
---Donna66 on 12/6/10

I Cor3 6-9 I have planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth, but God that giveth the increase.Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.For we are labourers together with God....

Some people seem to be especially good at "planting" others at "watering". Who can say one is better than to other? IMHO the majority of New Births are a result of God using 2 or more people with different gifts and and personalities ) to bring about harvest. Individuals rarely have the whole picture. It is planned in the heart of God.
---Donna_Smith on 12/6/10

Mark_V: To mima, "...The whole story sounds bogus to me. Man shaking his head, cussing and still listening to you, and then you ask and I suppose he said yes."

You would be one of the christians who did not believe Paul's conversion story. God doesn't work the way you think he should work. Like cluny, you have a worldview understanding of scripture and if it doesn't meet with your worldview understanding then it can't be possible.

Not all spiritual events can be understood in a worldly way.
---Steveng on 12/6/10

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---Mark_V everything in the story is the truth!!! I picked the story out because it is one of the most astounding things I know of.
---mima on 12/6/10

Praise God, Mima!
---Linda on 12/6/10

Mima 2: You could have told again about how you evangelize and what you are doing, but I answered you because you cut down the evangelizing Josef was doing and even gave it a name. Sort of saying his evangelizing is wrong and does nothing, but yours works. Comparing your works to the works of Josef. That is why I asked you where that name came from. That was all. Your work for Christ is very important, but don't forget it is God who doing the Work through you. He gets the glory always, for without Him we can do nothing.
---Mark_V. on 12/6/10

Mima, my answers prior were concerning the works you did in Mexico, the streets, parks, traveling around the states. telling us what you were doing for Christ. You never mentioned one time what God was doing. Here you tell me a story and want me to judge your story and how the Holy Spirit told you to ask now. Concerning the story, you said the Holy Spirit told you to ask. That I don't believe, because when the Holy Spirit works through you, He does not tell you to ask, He moves you to ask. Then you ask me to judge whether God was doing the works or you were. The whole story sounds bogus to me. Man shaking his head, cussing and still listening to you, and then you ask and I suppose he said yes.
---Mark_V. on 12/5/10

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Mark Judge this story.
While witnessing to a lifelong Catholic friend(my wife and I double dated with him and his girlfriend) he suddenly began to cuss and shake his head no. At which point I stopped and drew back. But the Holy Spirit said, keep talking, keep talking, so slowly I began to talk and witness to him again and after a few moments the Holy Spirit said to me, ask him now which I did and immediately he said yes and began to pray with me. So strong was his conversion that he stayed up all night talking to his wife about it, which I might add greatly upset her. Question, did I tell this story because of pride or to show how the Lord works?
---mima on 12/5/10

Mima, when I mentioned pride, was, to give you a hint, from the story of Paul and the torn on his side and why it was given to him.
I said that because I have noticed that you always bring out or speak about what you have done. In most of your answers you never say what God has done, but what you are doing. And when Josef answered, you dislike what he was doing compare to what you do. While I and all Christians are glad of the work you are doing, we have to consider one thing, that the work you and I do, is because of God the Spirit working in us. He gets the glory. Many a man take that glory and tell everyone they have converted someone, when in fact it is God who converts sinners and brings them to Christ. We are but vessels.
---Mark_V. on 12/3/10

Mima "lifestyle evangelism" as defined in your post is not applicable to me.
The mindset that I personally embrace is as following.
"I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me, and the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave Himself for me."
I do not presume any ability apart from Christ, to live righteously.
'If' I am viewed by anyone I meet as "a good person", I am quick to make it known that "There is none good but God," and to share the fact that if they see any good in me, it is the Father expressing Himself through me.
MarkV thank you for your kind words, all praise is due the Father.
---Josef on 12/3/10

---Mark_V I agree with Kathr that we should do both speak and live before others to win others to Christ.
However when people begin to tell me how much I'm doing right I immediately tell them to not look at my life rather listen to what the Bible says about how they can be saved. The problem of self-aggrandizement always haunts the one working for Christ. You yourself mentioned pride in replying to my post about conversions.
---mima on 12/2/10

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Mima, thank you for your answer. I never heard of any of those. I did not see anything wrong in what Josef had stated, and I have followed his statements very closely because they always have substance and Truth to them. From the very beginning I have always enjoyed how he answers, always with Truth. Each day I read many answers from so many and they help a whole lot. When my spirit is not at peace his words of Truth help me. That is why I ask. peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 11/30/10

--Mark_V, I first learned of the term "lifetime evangelism" after reading a booklet by Dr. John R. Rice.
Billy Graham's son who runs the" Samaritan's purse" ministry uses the term "friendship evangelism" which is very similar to "lifestyle evangelism " both mean you leave your life before others so righteously that they inquire of you how they can live that way too.
---mima on 11/30/10

I believe lifestyle evangelism is self explanatory.

You witness through how you live, not by what you say.

I believe we are to do BOTH.
---kathr4453 on 11/30/10

Mima ineffectiveness has not been my experience. I have won no souls, however the lifestyle the Father has empowered me to live has caused, to my personal knowledge, at least a few people to consider their own, and to inquire as to the "quiet, peaceful, relaxed attitude" that they have identified and associate with me, affording me the opportunity to share with them that I can only abide in that state by the grace of the Father and His gift of Christ within me. That I embrace the privilege given me of His rest. Choosing to Focus within, rather than without. Which usually leads to a more in-depth exchange, if not immediately, in time.
---Josef on 11/30/10

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Mima, you did not give me any article or book name of what "lifestyle evangelism" means. Only that you have done 45 years of witnessing. What is that? Who created that evangelism? How did you hear of it? You gave it a name so it must mean something to you, otherwise you would have not said that to Josef. If its something you made up then how do you define it?
As for me winning souls, I have not won any souls. I have witness to many people whom God has put in my path and God has saved many by bringing faith to those who hear the Word, Not everyone has received that saving faith in Christ, but many have. I have also spend time disciple them.
---Mark_V. on 11/30/10

Kathr4453 I answer any question I am asked. If I am asked something that I do not know off hand, I invite them to find the answer with me. What I "tell" them is that believing, the ability to rely on, adhere to, depend upon, and to trust in the One sent, is Father's work within us. That no man comes to Him unless he is drawn, and all those whom the Father has given to Jesus, will come to Him, and those that come to Him, will not be rejected. I "explain" to them that If they believe that Father is calling them, drawing them to Himself, all that is required of them is to acknowledge Jesus as Lord, yield themselves to His call, and follow through the inspiration and influence He provides from within.
---Josef on 11/30/10

If I may

Joh 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

Joh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also, and greater works than these shall he do, because I go unto my Father.
---TheSeg on 11/29/10

---Mark_V I say lifetime evangelism is not effective. I say this after 45 years of observation of those who practice lifestyle evangelism. Mark do you believe yourself to be a soulwinner? If you do what do you base that belief on?
---mima on 11/29/10

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Cluny, very well said. The saving is in God's hands. God takes care of that. We take care of what we are commanded to do and that is to preach the good news of the gospel. God does the changing and saving. We don't know who will believe the gospel by faith, or for that matter who will be convicted by the Holy Spirit through God's word. Only God knows that. We are responsible for teaching the gospel Truth.
---Mark_V. on 11/29/10

francis, I'm not the only one here who has given you godly warnings, but you will not receive them.
---Cluny on 11/28/10

It is our job to go make disciples & teaching about the kingdom of God. To plant seeds. It is the person responsibility to accept it. Either the seed will grow & flourish or will wither away. God will judge correctly either to everlasting life for those whom obey & choose to follow or get rid of wickedness for good for those ignoring him.
---Candice on 11/28/10

Cluny: your comment , about being more concenred about how God will deal with you, is fine, but part of that is what God wants you to do, and that is often either to actively speak about Him, or in some cases, to witness by your life.
---peter on 11/28/10

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Ezekiel 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die, and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at thine hand.
---francis on 11/28/10

Josef, In light of what you said, Yes it is important we walk the talk and not just talk the walk. But in all seriousness to you and MarkV, when an unsaved person does ask you about the hope that is in you, do you tell him this:

Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Do you explain that no one is born again first to hear, or that God has to regenerate you first before you can believe? That the ungodly in his state cannot hear and believe?

Or do you tell them that God equipped the Gospel not for the saved, but actually for the lost to be able to hear and respond?
---kathr4453 on 11/28/10

Josef//Jesus saves. We can save no one.//

How true and how often misunderstood... especially if we share Jesus with a non-believer for whom we care a great deal..a loved one or highly valued friend. Even if Christ's light shines in us, It's natural to go over, in our minds, everything we said and wonder how it was received.

Here is where we need to rest from our own efforts and let God work. The minute words leave our mouths, they are used by God however He chooses. The Holy Spirit quickens. (and I believe may cause a person to forget or not hear, anything we said unwisely but with pure motives).Salvation is up to the Lord...not us!
---Donna66 on 11/28/10

All disobedience is dealt with.
---Eloy on 11/28/10

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Faith without works is dead faith.

What are these works? First, it starts with true love, the love that is deep rooted within a person's heart. It's a love that is spilled over unto God and mankind. True love takes pity for the poor and needy.

Without this love, a person cannot truly love God.

Without this love, a christian cannot do his works. Do an online KJV bible search for "one another," "each other," "comfort," and "encourag" to begin your life's journey of a 24/7 christian lifestyle - not to be only hearers of the Word.

For every person you bring to God will cover a multitude of sins. Start growing your vine today.
---Steveng on 11/28/10

The love that encompases the mind, body and soul of a person is true love - the love that gets a person into heaven.

Many can surely define love, but has a problem 'doing' love. Scriptures is full of examples. It's a love that takes time out of a very hectic lifestyle during these end times to preach the gospel to everyone that crosses your path in life.

It's also unfortunate that many of today's christians fill up every minute of every day with family, friends, school, work, ipods, twitter, facebook, TV, entertainment, shopping, church, bible study etc. etc., but never having enough time to walk with God. Christians must obey the forth commandment (as well as the other nine) to truly walk with Him.
---Steveng on 11/28/10

Satan is certainly working overtime, for his time is short, to keep man from knowing God. Christians are so distracted during these end times what with filling up their time with so many things to do that they don't truly know who God really is. Sure, they have the knowledge of God, but deny his power. They make all kinds of excuses, selfish excuses, not to observe the fourth commandment. The most common excuse is that it doesn't 'explicitly' say christians need to observe the Sabbath - the least of the commandments. Let's face it, christians just plainly don't want to give up their Saturdays because it's the only day off to do what they want to do.
---Steveng on 11/28/10

Mima, you said what Josef wrote was lifestyle evangelism" and not effective. Where do you get that from since you made that comment? You must have some kind of writings or some magazine or an article from someone for you to make that comment on what he said. I would like to know if you can provide it. Or did you make that up?
---Mark_V. on 11/28/10

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--Josef on 11/27/10, the jist of your post is known as "lifestyle evangelism" sounds good, very nonintrusive, certainly not confronting, but just as certain to be very ineffective.
---mima on 11/28/10

Don't worry about how God is going to deal with other people. Rather, be concerned about how He is going to deal with YOU, Sag.
---Cluny on 11/27/10

Is this really what you understand?
Somehow I dont feel thats quite right.

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

What would you like God to do with you?
Well then!

Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Rom 10:18
Mat 28:20
God Bless!
---TheSeg on 11/28/10

Josef, great words you gave. A very good example of our commitment to Christ and the commands that we are given to do. Thanks you so much brother, blessings
---Mark_V. on 11/28/10

Jesus saves. We can save no one. What we are privileged to do is rest. If we cease from our own vain carnal efforts and allow the light of Christ within us to shine forth, that light will automatically reflect Jesus, glorify the Father, and He will be exalted to be seen of those with whom we have opportunity to make contact. We, as believers, are instructed to set Christ apart as Lord, and if asked about our "Christian hope" always to be ready to explain it. That explanation will be the proclamation of the Father's salvation and reconciliation through the atoning sacrifice and resurrection of His Son. The Gospel is His work, He "deals" with man as vessels for His work, the type of vessel is our choice. See 2Ti 2:15-21
---Josef on 11/27/10

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I serve a great God. He gives wisdom to the foolish and the weak. He gives understanding to the weak and to the most foolish like me, in His word.--Haaaaaaa. Hallelujah+ "And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation" 16>>"He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved, but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned", my friends...Scripture is saying, first of all, you don't have to be baptized to go to heaven. We do our job, Jesus will do His. Jeremiah never saw a one saved under his preaching. Jesus didn't save very many while He was on this earth. We are not responsible for the effectiveness of the message which God gives us. We are only responsible for delivering it.
---catherine on 11/28/10

Jesus told the 11 "go into all the world and spread the gospel" but according to Acts 8:1 they didn't go very far. Has to be a good reason
---michael_e on 11/27/10

Don't worry about how God is going to deal with other people. Rather, be concerned about how He is going to deal with YOU, Sag.
---Cluny on 11/27/10

That is easier said than done.

I'm concerned about some people, such as missionaries, having a better opportunity to reach MORE people than I every will.

Some teachers have said that some Christians are called to reach "only a few", while others might be called to reach "10,000". Quite a difference there.

I guess that we can only reach those who within our grasp.
---Sag on 11/27/10

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