James L, By your post it seems like you believe the old decrepit body will be resurrected , but it's the dead that come back to life in a brand new body. the old body is long since decomposed or disintegrated!
How can the dead gnash disintegrated,decompose cremated teeth??
It's a resurrection of the just and unjust not the "wicked!"
If you're dead forever the judgement is "forever"!
I too believe "His" words, it's your interpretation that's amiss!
---1st_cliff on 3/4/11|
Think outside of the box (grave) Cliff! :) In the parable of the rich man & Lazarus, Jesus implied the spirit man can see, hear, speak, feel (thirst, agonize). So, it's just possible he can also gnash his "spirit body" teeth. Also, unbeknownst to us, there may be a nether world (hell existing) type of worm that can actually eat non-material substances.
Bottomline: Whether or not we understand it, we'd all do well to go with what Scripture says on the subject.
---Leon on 3/4/11|
I seem to be confused. Because in:
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
If the dead are done, finished, nothing! What is being delivered up?
And if hell is an end! Why would they be delivered up to be judged!
Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth, they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Aren't the evil in hell?
---TheSeg on 3/4/11|
You're correct that if you exhume a body right now the teeth will be there.
But if you wait until after the resurrection there won't be anything to exhume. No teeth, no bones, no toenails.
The worm never dying is a picture endlessness.
How could the judgment be endless if the wicked are utterly obliterated as you claim?
There are holes in your theology because Jesus taught there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.
You reject His words, I don't.
---James_L on 3/3/11|
\\Read Isaiah 66 you will find the worm is eating dead bodies not living people. Also most teach the nonmaterial soul is in hell so it has no body for a worm to eat.\\
Samuel, Isaiah 66 is not talking about hell. Regardless of what anyone teaches, there will be material bodies in hell. Jesus taught resurrection, both righteous and wicked. Paul taught it, too. In Romans 5 and 1 Corinthians 15.
\\When JESUS argued about life after death it was about if their would be a resurrection.\\
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you suggesting that Jesus was only speaking of resurrection in hypothetical terms? Please expound
---James_L on 3/3/11|
James L, This I know for sure, if you exhume a body the teeth will still be there.What would a non- material soul/spirit gnash???
Or how can worms "eat" non-matter??? Too many holes in your theology!
---1st_cliff on 3/3/11|
Jesus tells two stories about life in hell. the rich man and Lazarus, and the parable of the master who forgives a debt but that servant does NOT forgive anothers debt. The torture part is an image of hell.
---Scott on 3/3/11|
Jesus said there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Nonexistent people cannot gnash their teeth, can they?
How about the worm never dying? If the wicked are utterly obliterated, like you say, what will the "worms" eat forever? James_L
First there will be a hell where the weeping and gnashing of teeth happens until the wicked are burnt up. So your arguement does not work.
Read Isaiah 66 you will find the worm is eating dead bodies not living people. Also most teach the nonmaterial soul is in hell so it has no body for a worm to eat. So it would starve to death anyway.
Think about it.
When JESUS argued about life after death it was about if their would be a resurrection.
---Samuel on 3/3/11|
So, Cliff! Forgive me, please.
But you believe a loving God will not make you suffer, right.
So to you hell is just a place to hang your hat, till your call?
And nothing goes on there. Right! I mean suffering.
So Cliff, if this is what you're preaching.
Then aren't you telling people, eat and drink for tomorrow we lie?
What make the difference then?
If how you live your life doesn't matter?
Or what you believe. Or for that matter, anything, God has said?
I mean, you're trying to tell me, there is no Life, Death and Hell!
But that's OK Cliff, this would not be the first time I heard it.
Cliff, there is a Life, and a death, and a Hell.
---TheSeg on 3/3/11|
--Does this sound like the creation by a loving God to you???
Yes - it does. One who HATES evil.
Would you suggest that satan and his angels go free to tempt and deceive all of Gods creation for eternity?
I, for one, want a sinless eternity with God where I am full of his love and in total trust of all his decisions.
---CraigA on 3/2/11|
you are attempting to usurp scripture through rationalization. How many of your "answers" are nothing more than philosophical questions? MOST
Jesus said there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Nonexistent people cannot gnash their teeth, can they?
Oh, wait. That part of scripture must have been influenced by the Assyrians, who loved torture, right?
How about the worm never dying? If the wicked are utterly obliterated, like you say, what will the "worms" eat forever?
---James_L on 3/2/11|
**lots of wailing,crying and shrieking**..Larry
**Only torment and suffering will exist**... mima
Does this sound like the creation by a loving God to you???
1Cr.13.4 'Love is patient,love is kind..it is not easily angered,IT KEEPS NO RECORD OF WRONGS,...always protects,...always hopes always perseveres"
The seg,**I see the dead in three places***
Do you know why it says "the dead" and not "dead bodies?"
---1stcliff on 3/2/11|
They do whatever people do in torment, probably lots of wailing, crying and shrieking.
---larry on 3/2/11|
I once heard a man say, I do not know whether I'm going to hell or heaven but I'll have friends in both places. This is completely contrary to what the Bible teaches. There will be no friendships in hell nor will there be any light. Only torment and suffering will exist.
---mima on 3/2/11|
Isnt he saying you dont want to go there?
Didnt he make this clear?
In Revelation I only see the dead in three places the Sea, Dead and Hell.
I am he that liveth, and was dead, and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen, and have the keys of hell and of death.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:
Not the God of the dead but of the living!
I have a question is the Sea locked?
It doesnt need a key?
---TheSeg on 3/1/11|
Mark V, Gehenna (hell-fire) is not that complicated of an illustration!
Gehenna (the Valley of Hinom) was a garbage dump outside Jerusalem fueled with sulfur. They were all familiar with this area, where they threw criminals they believed had no hope of a resurrection,along with the trash!
The refuse that landed on the ledges was eaten up by the maggots.
It pictured utter hopelessness, as far as salvation is concerned!
Sheol/Hades ,(hell)is the common grave of man,don't confuse these with Gehenna!
---1st_cliff on 3/1/11|
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Cliff: You just gave a great description of the broad way leading to destruction (HELL). (Matt. 7:13-14) Who should we believe ~ the creation (men) or the Creator (God)? Speaking for myself, God's Holy Bible "strait n narrow" is the only way to go!
Ms. Donna: Not as I say, but as Jesus said in the parable of the rich man & Lazarus. As an aside, have you (or anyone else here) ever wondered if the Lazarus in the parable was the one & same brother of Mary & Martha? Don't know ~ just a thought!
---Leon on 3/1/11|
---jerry6593 on 3/1/11|
Donna66, I really agree with what you said when you said,
"The image of "burning" is an apt one for extreme suffering, whether literal or figurative.(some always insist, with great passion, that the fire is literal)
I suspect that the words from Jesus lips can be just symbols, but it doesn't change a thing. It is probable that the sinner in hell would prefer a literal lake of fire as his eternal state to the reality of hell represented in the lake of fire image. If these images are indeed symbols, then we must conclude that the reality is worse than the symbol suggest. The function of a symbol is to point beyond themselves to a higher or more intense state of actuality than the symbol itself can contain.
---Mark_V. on 3/1/11|
It could be as you say. I am not sure of the details of hell, except that God is not there! And if God is not there, there can be nothing good there. The image of "burning" is an apt one for extreme suffering, whether literal or figurative.(some always insist, with great passion, that the fire is literal)
I do believe C.S. Lewis meant his work as fiction... it had to be....since he never visited Hell himself. I found his story entertaining since it was SO true to LIFE!
I see the gulf between believers and non-believers on earth a strictly spiritual because the same ills and failures affect both. The rain falls on the just and the unjust.
---Donna66 on 2/28/11|
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Leon,We're all learning Leon, no one has got it all!
Consider= The Vedas (holy writings of Hinduism)There they have 7 levels of hell where in a fire a hot poker is thrust though you and as you descend ,in each level the poker is hotter and so is the flame!
The Quran says , you are dragged though boiling water,and as "flesh" is burned off , new flesh forms so the process can be ongoing,if your thirsty they give you boiling water to drink!
Strangely enough,Judaism does not believe in "hell-fire".
---1st_cliff on 2/28/11|
Cliff: You have a lot of religious head knowledge, in fact, enough to be extremely dangerous to yourself... But, you lack the true, relational heart knowledge only God can give by the Holy Spirit.
I sincerely hope you don't wait too late to repent of your sins. If you spend the remainder of your days shaking your fist at God (raising hell), one day you'll surely exhale your last breath on earth & instantly inhale horrors far beyond the grave ~ HELL.
---Leon on 2/27/11|
IstCliff----Dante's Inferno....yawn...The Great Divorce is a lot better read, a lot more entertaining.
You meet friends, neighbors, even a few pastors you know well, in the C.S.Lewis Book. ...You don't have to believe it...it's a fictional work.
---Donna66 on 2/27/11|
Ms. Donna: I believe heaven & hell are expanded versions of our lives on earth. The Bible says anyone who spends a life raising hell (passively or aggressively) will reap what they've sown ~ HELL. But, anyone who seeks, finds & opens their heart to receive the Lord, His kingdom comes (resides) on earth in one's heart/mind/soul. A believer is instantly brought back into a spiritual paradise (the Garden) ~ HEAVEN.
Like Jesus' rich man & Lazarus parable, believers live on earth far removed (by a gulf) from non-believers. Humanity lives in two different realms (heaven & hell) together.
Life on earth is the only hell believers will know. For unbelievers, life on earth is the only heaven they'll know.
---Leon on 2/27/11|
I don't want to know nor do I want that experience.
---Rob on 2/27/11|
Much of Leon's (and others) thinking and vision of hell comes from "Dante's Inferno" 14th century drama and painting (by the same name) influenced those of that mind set , to believe it's real!
---1st_cliff on 2/27/11|
Leon-- Great thought! You would have something in common with C.S. Lewis. He wrote a fictional account of hell called The Great Divorce that is along the same lines.
He imagines what it would be like if hell is actually a place where people can have and do whatever they want.
(those who believe in literal "hell-fire", relax. It's fiction)
As it plays out, everyone is miserable as a result of their own desires. And hell is a truly hideous place because of suffering residents inflict upon each other...all without a merciful God to intervene.
---Donna66 on 2/27/11|
Cluny, Yes the Syrian "Orthodox" does not include Revelation (or 2 Peter,Jude and2nd and 3rd John)
In the West, the Synod of Hippo 393CE and the Synod of Carthage397CE agreed on thr 27 books as the Canon of NT influenced mainly be Jerome and Augustine!
---1st_cliff on 2/27/11|
Leon, With all due respect ,this is a classic example how things get twisted..IE **argue against God's word** arguing about the "bible" has come to mean arguing against "God". The scriptures compiled by "man"has become synonymous with the actual "voice of God" (an idol). You actually believe there was no argumentation at Nicea 325CE?? Totally naive!
---1st_cliff on 2/27/11|
"What do people in Hell do?" They vehemently argue (raise hell) against the authenticity of God's word. They don't receive, but instead grudgingly turn a deaf ear towards & disbelieve God's appointed messengers. They have a god complex & idolatrously worship their own lofty, vain opinions (theories, false religious doctrines) instead of God's Truth. Daily, they practice a smug self-conceit/self-righteous vanity. Even though they & their families suffer daily in the flames of sickness, poverty, hunger & thirst, social-economic oppression, drugs/alcohol/sexual addiction, incarceration, etc., they shake their fist in God's face rather than reach out to Him for salvation up & out of hell's hole...
---Leon on 2/26/11|
The entire bible is "someone says so"
John says "Then Jesus..."
Mathew says "Then Jesus..."
Luke says "Then Jesus...
Moses says "Then God...
Hosea says "The word of the Lord..."
I mean, really. Where were you when God laid the foundations of the earth?
Have you ever in your life commanded the morning?
Do you know the time the mountain goats give birth?
Will the faultfinder contend with the Almighty? Let him who reproves God answer it
---James_L on 2/26/11|
'You can hang on to Paul to save you, but he couldn't save himself!'-1st_cliff on 2/26/11
-He didn't have to save himself.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Tim 3:11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra, what persecutions I endured: but out of [them] all the Lord delivered me.
-But your comment did remind me of other verses.
Mat 27:42 He saved others, himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.
I understand Paul is not Jesus, but you did sound like the Chief Priests did just there.
---micha9344 on 2/26/11|
\\Revelation is not included in all bibles for the reason you stated!
---1st_cliff on 2/26/11\\
Do you know and edition of the Bible or NT that does NOT contain Revelation?
---Cluny on 2/26/11|
James L, Leon, You're right about one thing , that I'm not on the broad road with the millions of pseudo-Christians, but on the narrow ,cramped path with "few" others that are not swayed by masses who believe "just because someone said so"..
You can hang on to Paul to save you, but he couldn't save himself!
Revelation is not included in all bibles for the reason you stated!
---1st_cliff on 2/26/11|
As a student of God's Word I have to accept and believe what it says. In creation God breathed into man the breath of life. God is eternal and his Spirit is eternal. He gave us an everlassting spirit directly from His. The difference between eternal and everlasting is eteral has always been and everlasting had a begining but no end.
However, please do not put down others ideas if for no other reason than it makes you re-study your own. My first prayer when studing is that if my present ideas are wrong then please God educate me.
---Harold on 2/26/11|
That one was even funny. I'm not Harold. But you just agreed with my point about our "tent" being flesh. Jesus pitched the tent of flesh among us.
As for discounting, if we want to go to that type of reasoning, we could easily look at John the Beloved as an eccentric old man who must have been dropping acid to see the kind of images he came up with in Revelation, right? What kind of credibility do you want to strip from him?
But first you say we're a throwback to the Egyptians, now you say we're Pharisees. Who next? Canaanites? Some people think they believed in a resurrection, you know.
nonsense, Cliff. You're all over the place
Nice try, kid.
---James_L on 2/25/11|
Harold: Actually, you can discount anything Cliff says because he has an askew view of Paul's letters to the churches. He doesn't believe Paul had a true conversion experience on the Damascus road. Imagine that ~ like he (Cliff) was there & could discern Paul's heart! Therefore, you see Harold, Cliff doesn't believe Paul's writings are by inspiration of God. According to Cliff, the vast majority of the New Testament (specifically Paul's writings/teachings) is false. Imagine what that does to the entire Bible ~ what a cliff hanger!!!
---Leon on 2/26/11|
Harold, ** He pitched his tent in our midst** meant "He dwelt in our midst" (lived among us)
Paul was a Pharisee and as such they believed in the immortality of the soul (not supported by scripture) so you can discount anything he says about "absent from the body" "earthly tent" nonsense , nice try Harold!
---1st_cliff on 2/25/11|
Jesus, the Word of God, became flesh and dwelt among us (John 1:14). The Greek says He pitched His tent in our midst.
2Corinthians 5:1-4 Paul says we will take off (as in taking a burden off a donkey) our earthly tent, but we will not be found naked, because we have a new tent ready to be put on. In this tent we groan, longing for our heavenly tent. In this tent, we groan under a burden. Who shall rescue us from this body of death? Thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ (Romans 7:24-25)
Paul said "when the Law came, sin became alive and I died." So I guess you believe Paul wrote scripture after his head was chopped off? That has to be your only logical conclusion.
Nice try, Cliff.
---James_L on 2/24/11|
---Nowhere in scripture does it say humans are spirits in a material body! Straight from Egyptian mythology!
---1st_cliff on 2/24/11
1 Thes 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly, and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also
---CraigA on 2/24/11|
James L, Nowhere in scripture does it say humans are spirits in a material body! Straight from Egyptian mythology!
---1st_cliff on 2/24/11|
Some "here" are reality derailed. (Jn. 1:1-5) In light of what Scripture says, thanks for your Bible-centered, mature comments which are very much on track Harold. (Matt. 10:28)
---Leon on 2/23/11|
It appears that some of you have a serious misconception of death. Death is not an end, it is a separaation, a separation of the forces that give life. The spirit was given directly from God and can not be destroyed. At physical death the spirit is separated from the body of physical life. In Hell the spirit is separated from the forces of eternal life. Jesus said I am the life, in Hell there is no presence of Jesus thus no eternal life. Just an eternal torment, where the worm never dies.
---Harold on 2/23/11|
Hell can mean the grave in which case they are deteriorating.
If you mean Gehenna then they are being consummed as Isiah 66 point out.
If you mean the Lake of fire they are being burnt up in the Second death.
---Samuel on 2/22/11|
Leon, You're shouting at me, here here!!
**we live in individual physical bodies**
In Egyptian mythology they believed that if they "mummified" the body then the soul could re visit it at will! That's closer to your belief than scripture!
Shouting is really not mature!
---1st_cliff on 2/22/11|
"Leave the presence of a foolish man when you discern he speaks not in knowledge." Proverbs 14:7
---Leon on 2/22/11|
Did you miss the rest of Luke 24 which says that Jesus ate? and that He said "touch Me"
His point is that if He were ONLY spirit, He would not have flesh and bone.
The disciples saw Him ascend, and the angel said He will return in like manner.
Revelation 1:7 says when He comes back "every eye will see Him"
How could we have a great cloud of witnesses if they are dead? because the spirit lives on
have you ever read Romans 7:9? Paul says that he learned what sin is when he learned the Law. Then sin came alive, and Paul DIED.
Either he was writing after his head was chopped off, or he died spiritually while he was still alive physically.
---James_L on 2/21/11|
Leon, **We are spirits** according to Lk.24.39 Jesus said ""a spirit does not have flesh and bones"" so unless you are made of plastic ,this includes you!
**(dropped like a rock)into hell**. So from 6' below ground he went even deeper? and could still see heaven?? X-ray vision like superman?/
**(mentally alert,awake)** in other words was not dead but still alive?? even tho scripture said HE "died?" (not just his body)
Leon, literally it doesn't add up! Too much would have to be assumed to fit your belief!
---1st_cliff on 2/21/11|
Rev. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Those who keep the commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus are resurrected into eternal life. Rev. 14:12. Those who do NOT keep the commandments of God and who believe the testimony of Satan are resurrected and thrown into the lake of fire and there they will suffer until they are burnt up and cease to exist. Rev. 21:8.
What is the opposite of eternal life?...eternal death. Gone forever, cease to exist.
---barb on 2/21/11|
Suffer for ever and ever.
---Harold on 2/21/11|
1st Cliff, The flesh-and-blood CORPSE of the Rich Man was BURIED (in the ground), and immediately, when the rich man had died, as soon as he died, his soul descended into Hell. That's how it works. Once a person's body completely stops functioning with no hope of resusitation, the soul leaves that body and goes directly to Heaven or to Hell. No use for a soul to remain in a rotting carcass 6 feet under.
---Gordon on 2/21/11|
Cliff: We are spirits. We live in individual physical bodies. Within our spirit man, we all have an individual soul (a mind/heart).
True, the rich man's empty shell (PHYSICAL BODY) was buried. That's the part of man that "sleeps" (dies, is dormant) because it has no spirit left in it.
The rich man's unregenerated spirit (with his soul intact), at death, left his physically dead body. It descended (dropped like a rock) into hell. His spirit was conscious (mentally alert, awake) because he was still in possession of his mind/SOUL/heart (operating system if you'll allow). So, he was tormented due to a keen awareness of his dire circumstances.
No symbolism Cliff, this is reality bud! :)
---Leon on 2/21/11|
Leon, If you read Lk.16.22 you'll see that it says "the rich man was "BURIED" and in hell (hades-grave) This is the indication of it being symbolic when it says "where he was in torment and looked up" there's no literal torment in the grave.."and looked up" ..The dead can still see??(through 6' of earth? and be heard??) I thought the "soul" was supposed to escape at death! this one was "buried!" Nothing "literal" about the whole story!
---1st_cliff on 2/21/11|
RICHARDC, The Dead in Hell do not know anything but their TORMENTS. And, right, GOD has no pleasure in the death of the wicked. He is not delighted that the wicked perish in Hell. That is why He admonishes the wicked, as in EZEKIEL 33:11, to choose to TURN AWAY FROM their evil and receive Eternal Life. Even though GOD is grieved by the wicked perishing, He does not force anyone to repent of their sin and receive Eternal Life. We each must freely CHOOSE it. Hell and the Lake of Fire is the Judgment of all who love their sin and hate GOD's Ways. But it, nonetheless, grieves GOD just the same.
---Gordon on 2/21/11|
ANGONY FOREVER - BURN FOREVER - For all you people that think GOD is going to torture people for eternity. Now this has to include infants and little children That were unsaved, are going to be in angony too.
ECCLESIASTES 9,5 For the living know that they shall die:but the DEAD know not anything, neither have they any more reward,for the memory of them is forgotten
EZRKIEL 33:11 Say unto them,saith the LORD GOD, I have no pleasure in the DEATH of the wicked,but that the wicked turn from his way and live, turn ye turn ye from your evil ways: for why DIE, O house of Israel.
---RICHARDC on 2/20/11|
The answer to this blog question is in I.Corinthians.3.10-17.
---John.usa on 2/20/11|
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Depends what "hell" you're refering to... sheol is the grave where we stay until the ressurection. in the end when God banishes the wicked he gets rid of them forever where they are no more.
---candice on 2/20/11|
Cliff: Jesus indicated, the rich man (Lazarus) wasn't "sleep", but was very aware & agonized over where he was ~ IN A REAL PLACE CALLED HELL.
Geraldine: True, God doesn't want anyone to perish. (Jn. 3:16) God is Love. (1 Jn. 4) But, because He is Holy, His love demands justice be served. He won't turn a deaf ear or blind eye to our willful disobedience/sin. So, unrepentant sinners must PERSONALLY pay the price,i.e., eternal death of spirit...soul, for their sin. Some say that's not fair. But it is, because God gives us all a "fair chance" to repent of sin & be saved, & not have to go to hell.
Gordon: Has the Lord really taken people to hell & back...? Where in the Bible does it say that?
---Leon on 2/20/11|
It makes me absolutely ill seeing all those remarks defaming our loving God torturing humans by fire.
You would not do that to your cat, dog or budgie bird, let alone a human being!
At least Hitler gassed his victims before burning them, and he was not "merciful"
Learn what is symbolic and what is literal!
Hell in the Quran is worse ,thirsty? they give you boiling water!
---1st_cliff on 2/20/11|
I wouldnt take joy in the fact that men will burn, John, or you might find yourself headed there.
Why are you so full of hate when your God isnt?
---CraigA on 2/18/11|
They have never-ending torments, and they weep and have gnashing of teeth.
---Eloy on 2/18/11|
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Romans 20:10
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." Mark 9:44,46,48
"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." Jude 1:6
---christan on 2/19/11|
Leon, In MARK 9:43-48 YAHUSHUA (JESUS) describes some things to expect in Hell. The Lord has taken some people to Hell and back to testify what Hell is really like. In Hell, people have no purpose of existing. They are only there to experience never-ending punishment for their sin as a result of their refusal to repent of their sin and to receive Salvation through the Son of GOD while they were alive on Earth. People really are set on fire in Hell. They are invested and eaten by worms. They are mocked and tortured by Satan and the devils. It's been dismissed for decades, centuries by many as a "myth". But, it's REAL. Satan wants people to think that it's not real, so they won't bother trying to avoid going there.
---Gordon on 2/19/11|
Why don't you uncurly your upper lip & try answering the question Cluny? Maybe then you'll find out. :)
Yes, John! I suffered 2d degree burns on my upper torso (chest & left arm) a few years ago & was treated at Brooks Army Medical Center. How about you bud?
---Leon on 2/19/11|
How about *how* are people in hell? They are like how they become by the time they die, but this is multiplied so much. Because Galatians 6:7-8 says we reap what we sow. When we die, we reap so much more of however we have become by the time we sow ourselves into death. Then is when they will no longer be able to use their bodies for pleasures to "dilute" the feeling of their deep awful-mess of sin.
While people sleep, they can do a lot of things . . . during dreams, talking in their sleep, even walking and driving cars. That rich man talked with Abraham, those souls under the altar talked.
God is not limited to what we think (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 2/19/11|
And a companion question would be: While sinners writhe in agony forever, what is God doing--laughing or crying or ignoring? There HAS to be a different interpretation, because God would not ask us to love our enemies when he won't do likewise.
---Geraldine on 2/19/11|
If by HELL you mean THE GRAVE: Then they await the resurrection.
IF by HELL you mean THE LAKE OF FIRE: Then they will receive DEATH by fire:
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death,
Malachi 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do [this], saith the LORD of hosts.
---francis on 2/19/11|
THEY BURN FOREVER!!!
IN THE UNQUENCHABLE FIRE
Ever get burned Leon????
---John on 2/18/11|
People in Hell do nothing but scream in torture and agony while burning alive and having worms and maggots crawing all over them - this goes on for all eternity (FOREVER). This is what the Bible says and also what people who have had near death experiences in Hell say.
---Leslie on 2/18/11|
SUFFERING,Darkness, fire, no oxygen, where "the worms die not" and the flesh is continually eaten. Always to be forever in torment with NO HOPE of ever escaping. That is a very minor picture of THE REAL HELL!! It says in the Bible "the bottomless pit" it is now speculated that the center of the earth is solid, with a molten layer seperating the outer shell from the inner core.. which would then make it just another accurate scientific statement in the Bible written thousands of years before it was discovered.. it also said "He hangs nothingness above the North Star" we found out this century there are no stars or planets above the North Star for millions of light years!!! NOTHINGNESS!! God Rules! Satan drools!
---Kenny on 2/18/11|
Listen to each other say things like:
I'm sorry, I didn't mean it, give me another chance.
I'll never do it again, I didn't know, I didn't understand.
But Cluny's right!
Why do you want to know?
Vena, you imagine they suffer?
a_friend, Rev 20:13! Judged!
Rev 20:14 This is the second death.
1st_cliff read some of what a_friend said.
kevin5443 Mat 7:22-23
But what will we do there?
Many will wonder why they are there.
And some will know why!
Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
May God bless you all!
---TheSeg on 2/18/11|
in this life,they experience
rage,selfishness. in the afterlife,they experience separation from the light of God the Father...
---kevin5443 on 2/18/11|
Why do you want to know, Leon?
---Cluny on 2/18/11|
Leon, People in hell, (sheol/hades) the common grave of mankind, sleep 'till the resurrection!
---1st_cliff on 2/18/11|
They suffer forever!! burn, thirst, cry..are tormented forever and ever.
Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame.
---a_friend on 2/18/11|