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Living In The Last Days

2 Timothy Chapter Three warns us what things will be like in "THE LAST DAYS". Do you see these very things happening?

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Christians do have to go through tribulation, but not the The Great 7 Year Tribulation. It will be a judgement upon the wicked world. The rapture happens before the great tribulation.
---Pastor_Herb on 3/15/11

Cluny: "How many adults do you know who believe Harry Potter is a real person?"

Instead of taking my word, go to any Harry Potter convention and find out for yourself.

Cluny: "And, FWIW, Jo Rowling has said that she intended the HP series to be a Christian allegory."

The practice of magic, sorcery, the conjuring of spirits, and casting of spells are a christian allegory? Satan has surely deceived you.
---Steveng on 3/15/11

StrongAxe: "...Harry Potter does contain many laudable, even Christian themes, for example:

The insidiousness of evil, and how we must always be vigilant, lest we become corruped by it.

Self-sacrifice for the benefit of others.

The importance of honor and integrity."

Even the wiccas contain many laudable, even "Christian" themes. Gosh, the church of satan, too. Come to think of it, even non-christians.
---Steveng on 3/15/11


I do not bow to my Jewish friends. I WITNESS to them in love about God's ultimate plan for them, and to the fact that Jesus IS MESSIAH. I Also invite JW's into my house and WITNESS to them that Jesus IS GOD... I hope that I don't get too dirty.
---Lutherist on 3/15/11

I have had many discussions with my Jewish friends about their speculation as to which HEBREW TRIBE they are descended.
---Lutherist on 3/15/11

Well luther, they wouldn't claim to be a Northern House Israel nation anyway.
They will accept your bowing homage though.
Nth House nations were divorced/put away from GOD. Judah would not have anything to do with them. As scripture points. Woman at the well is an example, her Father Jacob....dug the well...but, a Judean speaks to her?

Jewish friends huh. Kinda like night being yoked with day seems to me.
There's another preacher type here who places mongo value on friendships with darkness and supposed men of renown.
Appears they trump scripture to him.
---Trav on 3/15/11

Pastor Herb:

Christians, past, present, or future, are not exempted from TRIBULATION.

(Acts 14:22) that through much TRIBULATION we must enter into the kingdom of God. (1Thes 3:3-4) so that no one should be drawn aside by these TRIBULATIONS. For you yourselves know that we are appointed to them... we told you beforehand that we are to suffer TRIBULATION... we told you before that we were going to suffer TRIBULATION... (RE 1:9) I John, your brother and partaker with you in TRIBULATION...

The RAPTURE is at the time of the Seventh Trumpet. See (1Cor 15:51-53) and (Re 11:12)
---Lutherist on 3/15/11

II. The Tribulation Begins When the Church is Caught Up and the Holy Spirit Taken Out of the World

The Great Tribulation is a time of judgment upon a Christ-rejecting world. We are going to be taken out, and then the judgment will fall.

In the days of Noah, when Noah and his family were safe in the ark, the judgment of the flood came and took them all away. After Lot left Sodom, the fire and brimstone rained upon the city. These are pictures of that which will occur when the saints are taken out. The judgment will Pastor Lee Roberson, D.D.
---Pastor_Herb on 3/15/11


That would not be surprising. Harry Potter does contain many laudable, even Christian themes, for example:

The insidiousness of evil, and how we must always be vigilant, lest we become corruped by it.

Self-sacrifice for the benefit of others.

The importance of honor and integrity.
---StrongAxe on 3/14/11

\\People DO believe, mostly children and many adults. \\

How many adults do you know who believe Harry Potter is a real person?

And, FWIW, Jo Rowling has said that she intended the HP series to be a Christian allegory.
---Cluny on 3/14/11

StrongAxe: "People don't read Harry Potter believing there is ACTUALLY a person called Harry Potter or a school of magic called Hogwarts. They KNOW these are fictional, and hence not deceptive."

Many christian leaders are using the Harry Potter books to teach christianity.
---Steveng on 3/14/11

StrongAxe: "People don't read Harry Potter believing there is ACTUALLY a person called Harry Potter or a school of magic called Hogwarts."

People DO believe, mostly children and many adults. With each new book that came out, Rowling and the publishers were receiving letters to find out where the school is so they can attend. Not just dozens of letters, but hundreds of thousands since the book's first publication. Try attending many of the Harry Potter conventions around the world and see for yourself. Satan is surely doing cartwheels on the flames of hell.
---Steveng on 3/14/11

Do an online KJV bible search for the word "fable".

In fact, allow me to do it for you...

1 Timothy 1:4
1 Timothy 4:7
2 Timothy 4:4
Titus 1:14
2 Peter 1:16

Mixing truth with fiction is not good. It's a trick of satan to deceive and creating books that mix truth and fiction confuses the truth. In fact, christian leaders have been using Harry Potter to teach christianity.

By the way, parables are definately not the same as fiction.
---Steveng on 3/14/11

Mark V and Pastor Herb:

I agree that the term "Saints" is not a good proof of Christians on the earth after (Re 4:1). However, (Re 4:1) is no proof that the Rapture of the Church is at that point.

"Come up here." is also spoken to the two resurrected Witnesses (Re 11:12). If this phrase was proof of the Rapture, I would choose (Re 11:12). It is much closer to the "Last (7th) Trump" (1Cor 15:52).

The REAL proof of Christians still on the earth is (Re 6:9-11). These martyrs are killed because of their TESTIMONY, and they cry out to Christ, who is opening the Seals, and call him LORD.

And... these Martyrs are given WHITE ROBES like the Christians in (Re 7:9 & 13).
---Lutherist on 3/14/11

Mark V. Saints are mentioned in Rev. but not the Church. Saints are mentioned in the old Testement, does that mean the church was in the old testement? The saints in the tribulation are not part of the church just as the saints of the OT are not part of the church. There will be a wedding between Jesus and the Church. The church is Christ's bride but OT and tribulation saints are guests, not part of the church.

Don't show me saints in Rev after chapter 4, show me the church.
---Pastor_Herb on 3/14/11

Considering whether or not there will be a rapture the following question looms large. If it is necessary to take the mark of the beast (and it is) to live through the tribulation. The church would be dooming itself to hell and of course that is an impossibility.
---mima on 3/14/11


Mixing fact and fiction SO PEOPLE BELIEVE THE FICTION is lying - what Satan does.

Mixing fact and fiction SO PEOPLE MORE CLEARLY SEE THE TRUTH because the ficion more clearly illustrates it, is not. Jesus did this with parables. Analogies and hypothetical examples are a very good way to convey abstract principles.

The Narnia books include many elements that echo gospel truths without ACTUALLY calling them such - so children can learn about them without their parents worrying about them being beaten over the head with religion.

People don't read Harry Potter believing there is ACTUALLY a person called Harry Potter or a school of magic called Hogwarts. They KNOW these are fictional, and hence not deceptive.
---StrongAxe on 3/14/11

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Mark_V. there have been Saints in all ages. There have been/are Old, New Testament and Tribulation Saints. The Church is the body of Christ. The Church started in Acts 2. The Church age will end at the Rapture.
You must remember that the "war with the saints 13:7" and others you comment on, were saved in the Tribulation not the church age. The church is not spoke of after Rev 3:22 until it comes back with Christ in Rev 19.
Rev 7 tells of the 12 Jewish tribes preaching the Gospel in the Tribulation. That is where these Tribulation Saints come from. The Church does not go through the Tribulation.
---Elder on 3/14/11

Herb, I love your answers, but disagree on this one. First of all John did not go to heaven in Revelation 4:1. He was simply taken up in a vision, while his toes remained on Patmos. Secondly, the Church is on Earth after Rev. 4. How do we know? Rev says the beast will make "war with the saints" 13:7, then we read about the "faith of the saints" 13:10, and finally, during the mark of the beast crisis, the apocalypse refer to "the saints" who keep "the faith of Jesus" 14:12.
Some will say those are tribulation saints not the Church, but Paul wrote his New Testament letters to the "Churches of saints" Where ever there are saints, there is the Church.
---Mark_V. on 3/14/11

Herb Part 2:
Even if the saints mentioned in Rev. 13,14 are only the tribulation saints after the rapture, wouldn't they, as believers in Jesus Christ still be the Church?
Just before verse 16, during the times of the plagues, Jesus Christ thunders, "Behold, I am coming (Parousia) as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame" Who is Jesus talking to? To the Church. At that time of verse 15, while the seven Plagues are falling, which is definitely during the tribulation, and right before the battle of Armageddon, Jesus Christ has not yet come as a thief.
---Mark_V. on 3/14/11


Do you know what an "ALLEGORY" is?
---Lutherist on 3/13/11

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alan8566_of_uk and StrongAxe, There are people who will argue biblical truths with fictional books. One case in point is when I was having breakfast at a McDonalds a few years ago reading a bible. An old women approached me and asked if I was a christian. We discussed a few thing and I asked where she got her information. She said from the Left Behind books. I asked what does the bible say. She said the (Left Behind) books were more detailed and I understand them better.

When christians start believing fictional novels than the bible then something is definately wrong, don't you agree?
---Steveng on 3/13/11

alan8566_of_uk: "Steveng ... I confidently say the Bible does not mention the Narnia or Left Behind books."

C'mon, alan, use your brain. Narnia, the Left Behind books, and other novels mix truth with fiction. Isn't that what satan does?
---Steveng on 3/13/11

If there is no rapture and the Christians go through the Great Tribulation then what is the purpose of the great tribulation? Is it to judge and punish the child of God along with the wicked and sinful world, or is it just to judge and punish the wicked and sinful world? Why would God judge and punish the Christian? If God judges the Christian as the sinner, then He must send both to hell.

Rev. 3:10 tells me that the Christian will not go through the great tribulation.
---Pastor_Herb on 3/13/11

"last days" BEGAN at time of Christ's death

warned by Christ to not look at things going on around us these would increase and intensify in scope - likening these events to birth pangs starting small ending with greater intensity

1/3 of prophecy has not occurred we are simply in a period of the beginnings of intensity

many self-professing christians have told lies about this time (their time) being "the end"

the "last days" are simply the END of man ruling earth though ITS god - Satan

when you comprehend the basics of scripture you understand Christ is coming to close the age of Satans ruling and bring the age of eternal ruling by The Father in Heaven
---Rhonda on 3/13/11

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Steveng ... I confidently say the Bible does not mention the Narnia or Left Behind books.
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/13/11


There is a difference between BELIEVING fiction, fables and myths (Harry Potter, Santa Claus, Greek gods, etc.) and reading fictional stories for the truths they contain. Jesus spoke by parables all the time, yet nobody took his analogies as factual. Jesus referred to himself as the Vine and the Branch, yet nobody made furniture out of Jesus Wood.

Fictitious stories contain both falsehood (facts) and truth (principles). The same is true of any representation. Look at a dollar bill. You can infer George Washington was a man with curly hair - or that he was an inch tall, paper thin, and had green skin. It's your choice which to believe (and it is plainly obvious which you SHOULD believe).
---StrongAxe on 3/13/11

alan8566_of_uk: "Stevemg ... "The bible warns christians not to use cunningly devised fictional novels (including Narnia, the Left Behind books, and others) to teach the truth"

Does it?"

If you don't know then you don't know the bible as well as you think you do. Instead of questioning search the bible for yourself like the Bereans.
---Steveng on 3/12/11

Stevemg ... "The bible warns christians not to use cunningly devised fictional novels (including Narnia, the Left Behind books, and others) to teach the truth"

Does it?
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/12/11

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The bible warns christians not to use cunningly devised fictional novels (including Narnia, the Left Behind books, and others) to teach the truth. Christians are not to give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying to truth. Even is some christian circles Harry Potter and other fictional books are being used to edify christians. It's a sad day when christians use these fictional books as truth.
---Steveng on 3/12/11

Christians will unknowingly take the Mark of the Beast.

Concerning the rapture: it's a trick of the devil to decieve christians into believing a lie. Christians will unknowingly take the Mark of the Beast believing that it can't be the Mark of the Beast because the Mark of the Beast happens after the (pre-trib) rapture of christians and "we are not raptured" so it can't be the Mark of the Beast.
---Steveng on 3/12/11

Mark V:

I agree with you completely on only ONE second coming.

A pre-trib rapture sounds great! Who wouldn't want to escape the trials of the End Times. However, I just CAN'T find this escape clause in scripture.

What are your feelings about a LITERAL millenial reign of Christ on this earth after he comes in judgment? If there is such a thing... Wouldn't it be prominant in (2Peter 3:8-13)?
---lutherist on 3/12/11

Lutherist, what I read in Matthew 24:30,31 Jesus Coming or "parousia," will be unmistakably visible to "all the tribes of the earth." The dazed masses of humanity will literally "see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." Certainly no one will miss it, and no one will wake up next morning wondering, "which way did the Christians go." On that awesome day, the unsaved will "mourn." Why? because their loved ones have vanished? No. But because Jesus Christ has suddenly come and their last chance for preparation is behind them. Now it's too late. They are lost forever. There is only one Second Coming. "Parousia."
---Mark_V. on 3/12/11

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Lutherist 2 continue:
In both Matthew 24:30,31 and in 1 Thessalonians 4:16,17, without prejudice or preconceived ideas the message is clear.
"But of "that day" no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the "Coming" of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in Marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away. So also will be the Second Coming of the Son of Man be."
did Noah and his family vanish before the flood? No. They walked into the ark, as for the left behind there was no more chances.
---Mark_V. on 3/12/11

Mark V:

---Lutherist on 3/10/11

There are two kinds of problems that belief in the rapture (or, more specifically, of one's participation in it) can cause:

The first is "easy believism" free of difficult self-sacrifice. If one believes one will be spared the horrors of The Tribulation, one may not prepare oneself for lesser tribulations. For example, anyone who endured the Holocaust might have thought "surely this is the Great Tribulation", then despaired for having to go through it.

Second, it can encourage fiscal irresponsibility via "buy now, pay later", expecting "later" will never come (and then being financially devastated when it DOES come).
---StrongAxe on 3/11/11

Lutherist, I don't know who you are but I agree, as Strongaxe also, with your finding concerning the end times. The best-selling books of Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins have put their thoughts in many peoples minds that there is two distinct phases. First, Jesus comes invisibly to remove the Church before the seven year tribulation during which the rest of humanity must face the antichrist. This is the rapture. Then, at the end of those seven years, Jesus will again return, this time visibly, to deliver those who became Christians during the Tribulation, and guess what? They have been given a second chance to be saved and to pulverize the invading enemies of Israel at Armageddon. If we read Scripture, this is not what Scripture declares.
---Mark_V. on 3/10/11

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I agree wholeheartedly. Setting dates has several bad effects:
1) It can cause those who ardently follow such failed prophets to become disillusioned and fall away from the faith
2) It can cause those on the outside who see such failed prophecies to ridicule prophecy altogether
3) When Jesus finally DOES return, those who do accurately proclaim his coming will be ridiculed as "yet another set of doomsayers".

Thus, false prophecies today can damage the effectiveness of true prophecy tomorrow.
---StrongAxe on 3/10/11


Setting dates is a waste of time, and can actually strip the faith of some, when Christ doesn't show up on the advertised day and time. Jesus said that the signs of his coming are as clear as the signs of summer. We can know the SEASON but not the day or time.

It is true that even pre-tribers are interested in when the Rapture will take place. However, I find that it is more of a curiosity rather than a true concern. On the other hand, if we believe that the Rapture doesn't take place until the 7th Trumpet sounds, preparing for what comes before the trumpet sounds, is a real passion.
---Lutherist on 3/10/11


Reguardless of what is popular today... Is a literal Third Temple really taught in scripture?

Paul only uses the term "Temple of God" five times, and ALL five times it refers to the Church or Christians within the Church. If we who are Christians comfortably sit back and wait for temple construction to begin, we may miss the clear signs in front of us right now.

I see the End Times signs all around us, without a Third Temple. The Seals of Revelation are already opening... Seal 1- the Apostate Church is alive and well, Seal 2- the Great Sword of Islam has taken peace from the world, Seal 3- global ecconomic collapse is taking place right now, Seal 4- a global deadly plague might be coming soon.
---Lutherist on 3/10/11

Larry--- the form of government does not make the world more righteous. Democracy simply gives people more choices. -Donna66

You make my point for me perfectly. The resistance to Christianity is reduced in even the secular move for more freedom in North Africa. No religion offers less life and more bondage than Islam.
Meanwhile government is not an IT but a Godly structure and institution for public order where individuals honor or disobey God. Use "Congress" for every time you now use the word "government" and you'll get a better idea of what is going on and who is accountable. NOTHING is more hypocritical than a member of Congress railing against the government. Congress members are the government!
---larry on 3/10/11

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\\Does scripture really teach a "Pre-trib Rapture" and a literal Jewish "Third Temple"?
---Lutherist on 3/9/11\\

We know the Bible does not teach a pre-trib rapture. Belief in this is part of the Great Delusion. Those waiting for one will fall down and worship the Beast. "How can this wonderful man be the Antichrist? We Christians are still here."

And even the dispensationalist view has the Third Temple as the Temple of Antichrist.
---Cluny on 3/10/11

Rob, yes this prophecy is happening today: "This thereupon know, that in final days will be present times hard. For the people will be self-lovers, money-lovers, seducers, proud, desecrating speakers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, without compassion, slanderers, intemperate, tameless, not lovers of good, betrayers, stubborn, puffed up, pleasure-lovers rather than God-lovers, having a form of piety, but denying the power of it: and of these turn away from." II Tm.3:1-5.
---Eloy on 3/9/11


True, but isn't it true that most people who are expecting to be raptured, while not particularly interested in things that happen AFTER the rapture, are VERY interested in just WHEN the rapture will take place, and the things that immediately precede it (i.e. the warning signs?)

For example, look at Harold Camping and his people - they're convinced that the rapture will occur on May 21, 2011 (and the end of the world on October 21, 2011), so they are running around all over the country trying to tell people that.
---StrongAxe on 3/10/11

I find that most Christians are not really interested in End Times discussion. The reason they give is that they will be raptured out before anything bad happens anyway. Those that are somewhat interested at all say... "Until the Third Temple is built, nothing is really going to happen".

This always remindes me of the passage in (Mt 24:44) "Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of man is coming at an hour you do not expect."

Does scripture really teach a "Pre-trib Rapture" and a literal Jewish "Third Temple"?
---Lutherist on 3/9/11

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OK, so now we have an increase of earthquakes, pestilence, famines, etc. But what one prophesy tells when the end will occur?

The generation that saw Israel become a nation (learn this lesson from the fig tree). The question is: how long is a generation (according to the bible).
---Steveng on 3/9/11

Living in the last days? Over and over we hear this phrase every year. Yet we know the scriptures say no man knows the day or the hour. Since we dont know,why dont we get our life in order so the last day wont catch us by surprise. If you're expecting Jesus to come soon then be prepared for Him. Dont waiste time criticizing each other about who's the smartest or who's the best speller. No one and I mean NO ONE FULLY UNDERSTANDS THE SCRIPTURES so dont let hate arise because you have a dissagreement. My brothers and sisters hold your tongue and be blessed.
---david on 3/9/11


How are we expected to take your unorthodox translations of Greek and Hebrew seriously, when you can't even use English properly? To wit:

Using sinuous instead of sinful as the opposite of righteous.
Using lordess instead of lady as the feminine form of lord.
Using whom instead of who as the subject of a verb.

Now I know that it is petty and in bad form to criticize someone else's spelling and grammar - UNLESS that person has himself made a specific point to raise the issue previously, and insist that such spelling and grammar are correct (which you have done).
---StrongAxe on 3/9/11

Yes, the world is on fast-forward to destruction, and as all they WHOM mocked righteous Noah in his day were all destroyed, so too are all they WHOM mock the righteousness of Christ.
---Eloy on 3/8/11

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Rob, if you look at the picture image of the history of Scripture, we are close to the end. But the time left cannot be put in words. We have had tribulation all through history. And the interpretations many have given or not correct. There are signs around my town and billboards that say, May 21, 2011, Judgment Day. All through time we have had many predict the Day of Judgment or the Second Coming of Christ. For the first time, many countries in the Middle East are protesting, maybe we are very close but no one can say they have the time correct.
---Mark_V. on 3/9/11

What in the world is that jumbled version of the Bible called? American Eloy Revised version?
---Jasheradan on 3/8/11


John 3:16: For God so loved the world...
Greek: outos uar euapesen o theos ton kosmos...

1 John 2:15: Love not the world...
Greek: me auapate ton kosmos mede ta en to kosme ean tis agapa ton kosmon...

Why do you accept the traditional translation of kosmos as world in 1 John 2:15, yet you insist that the very same word be translated as harmony in John 3:16? What justification do you have for this (disagreeing with most Bible translators over the past two millenia)?

Are you the best Greek scholar in in history? If so, why would God write something so confusing only one person in two millenia would understand it?
---StrongAxe on 3/8/11

We are definetly living in the last days and of course there are still some things (3) to be fulfilled but these could happen very quickly.
---shirley on 3/8/11

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//WHOM obeying to the Son has everlasting life: but WHOM disobeying the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on that one//.

It's easy to tell this is YOUR own paraphrase, because a real scholar would use English correctly.

Will you keep your promise not to respond to me?

Larry--- the form of government does not make the world more righteous. Democracy simply gives people more choices. The Muslims think that they promote "righteousness" waiting for the Fourth Imam!
But NO government promotes righteousness because man is inherently sinful.

The government to watch out for... is the one in which all countries join under one authority.
---Donna66 on 3/8/11

Sure, the world has had earthquakes, pestilence, wars and rumors of wars, famines, all sorts of troubles, fearful sights and great signs since the beginning, but Jesus said that it will increase in frequency and destruction.

Love has practically disappeared from the face of this world. Man has been pointing the finger of every thing wrong that is happening in the world (global warming by CO2, animal death by the shifting of the magnetic poles, violence by video games), but the root cause - sin. Sin has grown worse since the 1950s. Matthew 24:12
---Steveng on 3/8/11

"For God he so loved the harmony, so as the Son of him, the single-sired he gave, that all in who obey him be not abandoned, but have life eternal. Whom obeying to the Son has everlasting life: but whom disobeying the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on that one. Love not the world, neither the things in the world. If any person love the world, the love of the Father is not in that one. And as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of man. And the flood came and destroyed them all. Likewise also the same day Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and detroyed all. Even thus will it be in the day when the Son of man comes."
---Eloy on 3/8/11

I like to pray that God would renew his spiritual witnes to those who are lost.
Like this,
Precious Lord I asked you to again sent your ministry spirit to their spirits(those who are lost) that they might come to a saving knowledge of your beloved son.
---mima on 3/8/11

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I totally agree brother Trav, scripture references are key here. While the world has been ugly for a long time what would we say if what could be democracy breaks out in North Africa, things are okay for a while?
What we do know is what MUST happen in the last days that has yet to occur.
The rebuilding of Temple
The restoration of sacrifices
The Abomination of Desolation

This can be found in Daniel 11 and Matthew 24.
---larry on 3/8/11


You said: I beg daily for my Almighty God to consume this vile world with his unquenchable fire.
You must REALLY hate the world.

In contrast: John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
and 2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

(emphasis mine).

King Solomon once determined a child's parentage (1 Kings 3:16-28) because the child's true mother loved it, while the other woman held it in contempt.
---StrongAxe on 3/8/11

America is NOT the spiritual or prophetic center of the universe.

Did you think it was?
---Cluny on 3/5/11

You may be right....may be wrong. You gave no scripture.
America has fulfilled largest parts of blessing prophecy.
Wheres the scripture?
Genesis 12:3
I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Psalm 147:13
For he hath strengthened the bars of thy gates, he hath blessed thy children within thee.
Psalm 37:22
For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth, and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
Psalm 119:21
Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.
---Trav on 3/8/11

Yes indeed. There's wickedness across the land, and it is very rare that no soul has not been damaged by it in some way. I beg daily for my Almighty God to consume this vile world with his unquenchable fire.
---Eloy on 3/7/11

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Mary-- The world is watching (especially people oppressed by dictators) wondering does the U.S. support freedom for people who want it? Or are they more interested in their own political alliances?

It's not necessary to go to war.
We are (finally!) supplying humanitarian aid to the Libyans. (What a bold statement of support that is!) And I think the Saudis will probably furnish them with arms. Perhaps we will too.
But Qaddafi will leave or be assassinated by his own people.
---Donna66 on 3/7/11

Oh yeah. Definitely. I just hope one thing: that we don't wind up at war with Libya now! I wish Obama would keep his nose OUT of it!
---Mary on 3/3/11

Mary, its the president who is fence sitting on Libya and distinguished combat vets from both parties (Kerry and McCain) who are urging a No Fly Zone and stronger action.

Outside of humanitarian assistance and your sloppy use of the word "WE" I mostly agree with your POV.
---larry on 3/7/11

We have been in the last days for a long time now. When you hear the trumpets sounding, get really ready. The Lord is Coming. Just not on May 21,2011.
---Bob on 3/7/11

Cluny, are you Antiochian? Do you attend St. Peter's?
---John.usa on 3/7/11

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Cluny-- America has been spoiled with cheap gasoline prices for years, but I don't hear anyone implying that America IS "the spiritual or prophetic center of the universe"! People simply write about the geography with which they are most familiar.

Everyone will suffer (America too, if she doesn't pump some of her own oil). Petroleum products are the mainstay of the plastics industry as well as important in fabrics, cosmetics, paint, flooring, and lubrication of mechanical parts. Since trucking is the most used means of moving freight, EVERYTHING will be more expensive.
---Donna66 on 3/6/11

In the UK, gas (we call it petrol) costs about seven & a half pounds sterling for every gallon.

That must be about $10.

In the UK, the term "gas" means something that is a gas ... not a liquid. So "gas" can't mean the auto (we would say "car") fuel

But no doubt in due course we will follow US practice!!
---alan8566_of_uk on 3/6/11

\\very soon gas will be 5 a gallon\\

It already is in Los Angeles, Lea.

And it has been for years in many parts of the world.

America is NOT the spiritual or prophetic center of the universe.

Did you think it was?
---Cluny on 3/5/11

only those Christians that are filled with the Holy Spirit can and will discern the signs of the times, everyone else has fallen to sleep, and yes we are in the last days everything is speeding up, soon and very soon gas will be 5 a gallon and bread milk and eggs sugar and butter will be so high we wont be able to afford to buy them, but guess what we all can lose some weight Amen, begin to buy canned stew, and things that's eatable out of the can for we as the church will help many and if you can grow a garden do so grow your own, wish i could but i live in the city.
---Lea on 3/5/11

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Yes, but they have been going on for a long time. Nothing new about the wickedness of mankind, except that it seems to have been gradually increasing. For about 50 yrs. I've been saying, "Well, surely the moral climate can't get much worse"...but every time I said always did!

The power shifts in the Middle-east and the remarkable increase in hostility toward Israel, seem more indicative of "last days" to me.
---Donna66 on 3/5/11

I agree with john usa,its just that today there a whole lot more people doing it,and with modern communications and transportation a bunch faster, and more often.recently saw a website for married people who want to have affairs,man what a sick world we live in.
---tom2 on 3/4/11

These things have always been happening.

According to St. Peter's words in Acts 2, we've been in the last days since the Descent of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost.
---Cluny on 3/4/11

YES!!! The bottle is beginning to fill, the crescendo is in sight. The turmoil in the Middle East is but another sign that the end of time is upon us. I am torn between another major conflict(World War III) taking place or a slide into a slower transfer into chaos. Either way we can be assured that events are lining up for the one world government, and for that man who is called the Antichrist.
---mima on 3/4/11

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Yes, you can see these things happening, just watch the news. We are in the last days, even the last of the last days.
---Leslie on 3/4/11

perfection discription of a hollywood star lifestyle,also many of the famous singers,politicians,wall street power people,the award shows are sorta like club members praising each other.wall street is strictly money oriented,and politicians never do what they say they will do to get elected,so they lie.oh yea rappers have the girls in their videos do a cast call on their backs.I coulod go on and on but iam getting sick.
---tom2 on 3/3/11

Oh yeah. Definitely. I just hope one thing: that we don't wind up at war with Libya now! I wish Obama would keep his nose OUT of it!
---Mary on 3/3/11

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