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Good points in your previous post to me. I do get it though and have been suggesting similar for some time now so I don't know why you said otherwise.

Anyway, your post describes well how we should conduct debates.

---Haz27 on 6/4/11

Poopsey: Thank you. I have forgiven you as well. I am glad that we have "buried the hatchet," so to speak.

I hope you have a good weekend.
---Trish on 6/4/11

Haz27: I don't think you get it. Debates are about topics or ideas or doctrine. They should never get personal. When they get personal then the debate is over.

Better to stick to the topic and back your position up with scripture. Often when one hasn't a leg to stand on they will resort to the personal insults and attacks which only shows that they feel threatened and have lost the debate.
---poopsey on 6/4/11

This blog has got far away from its original intention, which is to say what's going onin our lives.

But it's now June and another will be started

Kathr ... I did not mean to bite your head off!! Just to say thaat alcoholism is not a sin, it is the result of sin, and is a medical condition that will last the rest of someone's life, even if they don't drink any more.

And also, "cult" is really the wrong word to use, particularly here, where the term has religious connotations.
---alan8566_of_UK on 6/4/11

Trish: I forgive you. Please forgive me for some mean things I said to you and I'm glad you don't drink anymore.

kathr4453: Faith bashers? Many years ago there was a fundamentalist forum that seemed odd since they would always argue with you no matter what you said. I found out later they were indeed atheists running a spoof site and they had a legal disclaimer. That is how far some people will go to mock Christianity.
---poopsey on 6/4/11

poopsey said:
"Putting someone down only creates distance."

True. This happens in debates unfortunately. Sometimes it arises from misunderstandings due to peoples differing perspectives based on personal life experiences and/or damage. Sometimes it's even resentment due to disagreements in past debates. And, like you said, it "creates distance".

Anyway, I hope you are including yourself in your point about "putting someone down creates distance".

No doubt misunderstandings and opposing views will arise again in future blogs. As I mentioned before, most on CN learn how to disagree in better ways than when we first came to CN.

---Haz27 on 6/4/11


After reading the nauseating posts of Trish (AKA: Feminists)


" I am mellow and I trying to reach you "woman to woman". (i.e. Why women hate women..they're phonies)

I am a "nice" person and (as a "woman" only can) I won't offend you. For we women know its NOT your fault. You are a victim!!! "

Since all of woman are victims. Mainly of those mean and horrible...MEN/HUSBANDS!

Typical fake condesending, sexist Liberal .


---John on 6/3/11

//AA/Alanon/ACOA //

not impressed. i really did not appreciate them making me be quite when i talked about christ, but allowed the person across from me to talk of his higher power "the purple god".

also, the users got nice big rooms that they could smoke in. families of users got a little broom closet.

Celebrate Recovery is a Christ based recovery for all kinds of hurts/hangups/habits.

they do not allow cursing and generally rude behavior and it is not a breeding ground for more illicit background.

Christian or non-christian, these programs generate $$$.
---aka on 6/3/11

Gee wiz, Alan bit my head off and so did Mark_Eaton for saying AA and Alanon was a cult...Psychobabel.

poopsey I totally agree with you there.

anyway sorry I spent only somewhat of my time with this issue. I guess being on here for so many years, and seeing some people you think are wonderful bash others, not only personally but bashing their faith in God, telling them they are not saved I personally find far more hideous.

Many people have been hurt here on line by these faith bashers, and they haven't apologized either, and never will, all the while sucking up.
Oh the hypocracy!
---kathr4453 on 6/3/11

We are all one day closer to the end. Maranatha, thank you Jesus.
---Eloy on 6/3/11

Poopsey: You are right. I have failed to mention your strengths in my attempts to challenge you to examine your behavior. For that I am sorry. From what I can tell, you are a very caring person, and you have a burden for women who have been hurt by others. It seems I have hurt you, and for that I am sorry.

I hope you can forgive me someday, and that we can in the future diaglogue in a healthier way.

---Trish on 6/3/11

Thanks for the prayers I am getting better,praise God. Trish I too miss our Emails maybe I will have it back soon. Alan glad you got my card thats the only way I could think of to know I got in touch. God Bless
---Darlene_ on 6/3/11

Poopsey, I didn't like what was said to you. I understood very cleary what you were saying about just wanting to be treated right.
I want you to know that we have many different kinds of people here on line. Some who follow the Word, others who like to start trouble, others who follow you around when you become the idol of their hearts, who cannot stop thinking about how they will insult you the next day. Like those people you see where the eyes turn bloody red. And then there is so many that want to help. To me one of the most wonderful things I learn was, what love really is. The love I knew was not the right one. The one I know from 1 Cor. 13 I now know. To love our wives is one of the most important things we should be doing as husbands.
---Mark_V. on 6/3/11

alan: Just to be fair I would say that MarkV understood what I meant from the beginning. And then there was Robyn who was supportive and also you. Kathr44?? somewhat. So there are some who I have no problem with. I may have forgot someone but that is what comes to mind.
---poopsey on 6/2/11

Trish: Perhaps you think you care about me but you don't know me. You can assume I am like you or was like you but you don't know me. You are stereotyping and assuming.

I don't respond to constant criticism and condemnation positively and I don't like my feelings being invalidated.

I don't believe everyone is against me and I am not a victim. Never said I was, YOU SAID THAT!

I'm not throwing fits. I'm telling you what I think. You have been brainwashed by the AA/Alanon/ACOA cult. Not everyone agrees with those brainwashing organizations. Putting someone down only creates distance. You haven't said one nice thing about me yet many negative things and you don't even know me. That is wrong.
---poopsey on 6/2/11

Poopsey: Let me clarify. You accused me of being drunk. I am not a drunk. I am a recovering alcoholic, sober in Alcoholics Anonymous. Big difference. I don't act like a drunk anymore.
---Trish on 6/2/11

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Trish: You have a problem respecting people's boundaries. I said very clearly that I can't stand you and that I think you are a control freak.

And many people think the AA/Alanon/ACOA cult is damaging to the people who participate in it. My dad quit drinking on his own without AA so AA will not solve all your problems.

This is the reason I don't like you because you are insulting and rude by saying things like, "Alanon is not psychobabble, but the truth is, you need more than that."

You have no right to judge me since you don't know me and since you don't know me you don't know what I need.

If you really wanted to know me and what I need you would ask instead of tell.
---poopsey on 6/2/11

Poopsey ... if you are still here!

You said we must all feel crappy. That worried me, because I thought you meant all, and that I had upset you.

But I now accept you did not mean all I had misunderstood you.

Perhaps then, you have misunderstood what others have said to you. I can't see that Trish has been guilty of all the things which you have found upsetting.

And since there are two Johns, maybe he is not guilty of lying.

But one of the Johns is a bully, and we have all suffered ... we have had no apology from him either!
---alan8566_of_UK on 6/2/11

Sister Darline, I have you in my prayers. Always there to pray of others who are hurting or need strength. I always think of you as a great prayer warrior.
I myself just got out of the Hospital, I was in this time for one week. I had an infection in my liver. I will always have your back, you can count on me. Get well soon. I love you, your brother in Christ.
---Mark_V. on 6/3/11

alan: I thought I would just correct what I meant since you have pounced on what I said. When I said something wrong with you people I was referring to the ones I had conflict with who stated things that were not true about me. I don't know everyone here so it doesn't apply to absolutely everyone.

And what John did was bullying. Regarding those insults my feelings were discounted more than once by Trish. That is reality.

I never accused you of anything. In fact in one post I said I agreed with some of the things you are saying. Don't assume and make judgments like that.

I never came here with the intend of seeking support for anything. I think this place is not a good place for me to be. Goodbye.
---poopsey on 6/2/11

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Poopsey: You can continue to lash out and throw your fits all you want. In doing so, you prove what I said about you is true. Alanon is not psychobabble, but the truth is, you need more than that. Your anger is just blinding you to the truth of what I said about you.

The reason I have said what I did about you, is because I used to act like you, and believe that the people here were against me. I used to lash out and be "the victim" and see you doing exactly like I used to. That is why I care about you, though your anger has blinded you from seeing that.
---Trish on 6/2/11

alan: The ones I have the most problem with are John and Trish. John is a bully and nasty. I still never received an apology from him for those lies he stated about me, my husband and marriage.

Trish invalidates a lot of what I say. She doesn't believe in fair and only criticizes and condemns me. She doesn't know me but assumes she does. And according to her posts she is an AA member yet denies being an alcoholic.

I really don't appreciate being put down like that. I don't like it when people don't listen to me and either discount what I say or twist my meanings. I also don't like it when my feelings are ignored or invalidated in some way.

So since I have nothing against you I'd rather not continue this.
---poopsey on 6/2/11

Poopsey you say "I never said everyone was insulting me"

.... Really?

How about this then? "I am starting to think there is something wrong with you people. You continue to attack and bully. You must all feel really crappy about yourselves and you are trying to bring me down to your level"

"I never said I had a victim mentality" No,indeed you never said you had a victim mentality, but you have for sure demonstrated it. You accuse us all of bullying you.

All of us? There have been others as well as me, who have until now done nothing but to support and encourage you, yet you accuse all.
---alan8566_of_UK on 6/2/11

Trish: You use everything I say against me.

You question my sobriety? Really? I don't drink? I'm clean as a whistle. I decided a long time ago I was not going to be an alcoholic like my dad but thanks for your concern.

You question my maturity? Really? Oh well. I guess that is your problem. No one is totally mature, not even you.

You just want to bring me down with your nonsense comments and you don't even know me.

I never said everyone was insulting me, YOU DID. I never said I had a victim mentality, YOU DID. You make way too many false assumptions and you show signs of being a co-dependent and they like alcoholics are incredibly selfish people.

I'm done defending myself to you since you don't listen.
---poopsey on 6/2/11

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Darlene, I am praying for you. Miss our e-mails.

---Trish on 6/1/11

Please pray for me I am very ill. It began as an allergy but is turning into a chest infection. Lots of hard coughing,sick feeling and headache. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/1/11

Scott, When are you going to Kenya? And where in Kenya are you going? I have a pastor friend(native Kenyan) who lives in Bungoma in the western portion of the country.
---tommy3007 on 5/26/11

Trish and Christina,thank you for joining me in praise to our Lord. I know I can always count on y'all to rejoice with me when God moves or pray when there's a request. My dear friends daughter needs prayer she is bleeding from something wrong in the intestines. The doctor wouldn't tell her what he suspected,without family with her,it is but sent her to an oncologist He has ordered the colonscope. She and my friend are very upset about it. Both are Christians.
---Darlene_1 on 5/26/11

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Christina: I will pray for you and your daughter's situation. I do live far from Michigan. I am in the Philadelphia, PA area, and my daughter lives in the center of the mitten, near Lansing. It is about a 12 hour drive for me, and I usually break it up, and spend a night in Pittsburgh and visit my son while en route to and from.

Darlene: Praise the Lord for the fact that the jaw was not broken. That is an answer to prayers.
---Trish on 5/24/11

Trish I will be praying for that situation,for your daughter to find the perfect babysitter. I was the one who kept my Grandchildren,picked them up from school while their mother worked,it was such a blessing.
---Darlene_1 on 5/24/11

That's good news Darlene! Praise God, for He is good!
Trish, I will pray about this situation. Are you far from Michigan? I am praying about moving also since the house I'm living in will be up for sale soon. I have a daughter who is a single mom of 2 little ones and they are living with my married daughter and family, but it seems it would be best if she could move elsewhere, which is tough to do as a single parent. we're praying about finding a place together and sharing responsibilities. It is my hope that my grandson can be in a better school.
---christina on 5/24/11

I would appreciate prayer for my daughter's family. She is in need of daycare, and I would love to move to Michigan and be her daycare. Daughter has not asked me to do so, though she knows I am willing to do that. Please pray for her, and for this need. I have a burden to minister to her family in this way, and would love to move there. When I visit, I am usually babysitting for her during the visit.
---Trish on 5/24/11

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Praise the Lord,her jaw was only jammed and not broken. God answered prayers for us. Thank you all who prayed. Thank you Moderator for getting the request in so quickly and for your prayers. It is because of the faith of the praying saints God is able to move for his people. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 5/20/11

Darlene, how is your daughter? I sure hope her jaw was not broken. I have been on liquid diets, when I had my gastric bypass surgery, and it is boring. If she does get her jaw wired, I have some recipes for yummy protein smoothies with yogurt, milk and fruit in the blender with some protein powder.

I would appreciate prayer. I have an interview for a per diem social work position at the psychiatric hospital I used to do group therapy at. Per diem is subbing for regular social workers. Please pray for God's will and wisdom in this.
---Trish on 5/20/11

Please pray for my granddaughter,she fell and thinks she may have broken her jaw,shes 26. Her mother is taking her to emergency right now 2:10 CDT. My husband has gone to be at the house when the greatgrands get home from school. Pray for them too,ages 9 yr girl & 5 yr boy,they will be upset about their mother being hurt. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 5/20/11

Thank you Darlene and Trish., and thank you for your prayers. May God bless you and yours also.
I DO feel very blessed, and I thank God for His blessings, timing, protection and more. He has been doing wonderful things in my daughters life. Trish, isn't God good to bless you with such joy and love for your grandchildren! I'm happy to hear that,
---christina on 5/17/11

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Christina, Praising the Lord with you for your new grandchild. My life was changed forever when my children were born, but I never expected the extreme joy, and love I have for my grandchildren. The relationship I am developing with those two Munchkins is precious indeed. Prayers for your family.
---Trish on 5/16/11

Christina what a special time this is for you and your family. That is just great to have a new baby in the family,they are such precious blessings. May God always send his angels to stand guard over that little one throughout his life.
---Darlene_1 on 5/16/11

My oldest daughter gave birth to a son last night. I have spent the last few days with her, and praise God for His goodness, His protection and love!
---christina on 5/15/11

Praising the Lord for Scott's opportunity in Kenya. Will pray for you. It should be a life changing experience for you.

Also, praising because I had to go to the ER in an ambulance last night with the same symptoms I had when I had a blood clot. No clot, just low salt level in my blood, and sick with upper respiratory infection.
---Trish on 5/13/11

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Scott How exciting,I will be praying for you. May God bless the trip and use you greatly for his Kingdoms sake. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 5/13/11

Trish, what a blessing to spend time with your family. Hope you enjoy the time with your son also. I lived in Pittsburgh for a while and LOVED it there! Wish I could go too. Anyways, may God bless the time you have with your son and your travels
---christina on 5/11/11

Going to Kenya on mission trip. digging a water pipe trench yeah!!!!!!!!. 18 hour plane ride not so much.
---Scott on 5/11/11

Trish,I'm glad you had such a wonderful time. I am praying for you. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 5/11/11

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I would appreciate prayer as I drive from Michigan to Philadelphia, PA, Wednesday and Thursday this week. I had a nice visit with my daughter's family, and must head home. I am seeing one of my son's in Pittsburgh en route.
---Trish on 5/11/11

Alan that is wonderful news about your family,more Grandchildren,what a precious gift from your daughters and God to you and your family. My prayers are with you and yours. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 5/8/11

Trish: aw, that will be sooo sweet, enjoy the dance recital. :)
---Mary on 5/7/11

I am visiting my grandchildren this weekend, and enjoying a wonderful Mothers Day. My 3 year old granddaughter is having her first dance recital on Saturday.

---Trish on 5/6/11

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Congratulations Alan! What a blessing. I'm expecting grandchild # 5 any time now. My oldest daughters due date is 11 days from now. That will be her 3rd. My second oldest daughter has 2 children. I've been there for 3 of the 4 births. What an incredible miracle!
---christina on 5/6/11

I am to be a grandfather again! Daughter no 2 is due to produce her second on November 8th, then daughter no 3 is due on November 9th
Daughter no 1 ... her birthday is on November 10th, and she presented me with a grandson in January
So that will be three extra mambers of the family in 12 months!
---alan8566_of_UK on 5/6/11

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