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Feelings After Salvation

Feelings brought on by our emotions are nearly always recognizable after the Holy Spirit has dealt with the individual. Concerning your salvation, do you remember your feelings after receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior?

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 ---mima on 5/16/11
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The Lord uses many ways to get our attention, I think about the aethiests

HE sends my way,
to witness ( not harrass) new one today dr. Office
Is.45:1-7.old gentlemen told me he feels like he is in a prison! Same job,same scenery,same people..we end up talk about Faith,Salvation, he told "somethings life" I did not preach just told him, how God has help me, thru so,much, my life seemed unbearable, God makes it better,even bad times,I have someone I can trust! Jesus love is REAL regardless of race,poor,rich etc
He told me come back again..
love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 8/8/13

Lea,I too can relate to having angry feelings towards someone who hurt me deeply. My x husband. I can LOVE him now in a way that is not sexual or intimite. It's a supernatural love beyond my own ability to love. Thank goodness my emotions are not getting in the way. If they were, I would remember all the pain and sorrow, and let my anger, sadness, get in the way.

It's these things God allows in our lives to conform us to is Image, as we are perfected in His Love. You see, God does not hate my x husband, even though he's an athiest. If God put a love in my heart to love him, how much MORE is God's love for him.

In the end, the REWARD of more of Christ being formed in you will far surpass any pain and hurt you are feeling now.
---kathr4453 on 5/21/11

//Feelings, it's what we do with them//

I believe we bring our feelings to the CROSS. As the AA blog just closed, many justify their alcoholism because of damaged feelings fail to realize the Cross deals with those, and all of our old man. They need a 12 step program for the rest of their life to help keep their feelings in check.

I tried to show our old man and our sin nature is what works through those feelings, and I again like here, those who simply do not understand the Cross, rebuked and called me uncompassionate.

Compasion is being SET FREE, not being in bondage to yet another human/satan controlling progam so satan can keep your old man alive and in his grips.

Does the Truth bring anger out of Christians?
---kathr4453 on 5/21/11

markv, why do you always bring free will into everything. kathr didn't say that agape love came from own old sinful nature. What more do you want from her. You argue against your own self, making up things never said and then arguing.

If agape love is the Love of God through us, certainly it is of Him.

But because one believes in free will, does that make everything someone says wrong?

If we must align our will to do God's will, then yes our free will must obey His will. Love is then a choice. Our choice to Love, dying to self and our self will, bringing our will in line with God's will.
Maybe because you do not believe in free will, you do not understand it is a choice.
---Laura on 5/21/11

Feelings...........yes i can relate to this, as recently i went through a very trying time, i was verbally abused by a person i worked for i took this for 5 months and did i get upset, i sure did. I tried praying for this man and keeping my cool and then i quit, i was angry at him and he also caused problems for me in my next job. So last night God dealt with me on this he told me to read Luke 12. We cannot change others but we sure can let our light so shine in a dark world. And as long as we live we will have emotions and feelings but its what we do with them that count.
---Lea on 5/20/11

Kathr, what was wrong with my answer? I only have two cheeks, I have turned both cheeks. What do you want from me, my blood? You wish to kill me, in your heart, you have already, but only in your heart, so nothing you say can hurt me.
"And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light" (John 3:19).
---Mark_V. on 5/20/11

Kathr, just to show you how wrong you are, and the reason I answer you, you now said,
" Because of our fallen nature, we are incapable of producing such a love. If we are to love as God loves, that love that agape can only come from its true Source." Meaning God.
Yet you speak concerning free will having a love for Christ. Fallen man having something only God can provide. How can they love Christ, to come to Him, when they don't have that love for Him while fallen unless God gives them that love? You said so yourself with your answer. You even suggest they all who are fallen have faith. And go further by suggesting you came to Christ with no repentance.
---Mark_V. on 5/20/11

Amen kathr Amen We all need to learn to turn the other cheek and to be humble , as long as we live in this flesh we cant be pleasing to God , just think if Jesus comes while you are arguing and being spiteful toward a brother or sister. Will you make it into heaven?
---Lea on 5/20/11

MarkV, you still don't get it. You're still attacking and insulting me. I have not said to you what you say to me and others.

I told you the truth, you cannot take constructive criticism without being offended. You have such a need to defend yourself, to the point of destroying the one who disagrees with you.

THAT MarkV is what is EVIL. Yet your unsanctified unregenerate mind cannot see or grasp that truth.

When Jesus was accused and evenn lied about...he never opened His mouth.

Love as Jesus LOVED. He never got TIRED of turning the other cheek.
---kathr4453 on 5/20/11

Kathr, I have been turning my cheek for several years, have nothing left to turn. Your vicious attacks at my person have not stop not even when you use your other names of which I have caught you using.
You also said I fail your test, "it was an evil test meant to tempt me" Sorry, but I'm not afraid of evil. I could answer evil with evil but I will again give you the word of God. "Do not be overcome with evil, but overcome evil with good" ( Romans 12:21 ).
"Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law" ( Romans 13:8 ).
---Mark_V. on 5/20/11

God bless you too Lea. Christina, I agree with your statement.

1 John states, perfect love cast out fear, and that we are being PERFECTED in His LOVE. Perfect in scripture, in Phil 3, James 1 etc is being brought to maturity. According to Phil 3 and James 1, this comes through suffering and trials. God uses difficult people and situations in our lives in order to TEACH us how to love, or rather teach us how to surrender and allow HIS LOVE flow through us. Our sufferings is actually putting to death our old nature and teaching us to live in HIS POWER.

It's s life long process, and the tests get harder and harder.

MarkV, consider me a gift from God rather than an enemy.

You may be surprised!
---kathr4453 on 5/20/11

kathr: i would like to say that reading your post has been in love from the Holy Spirit, only a person showing the love of God truly knows unconditional love and you don't have to prove this to MarkV or anyone else, this is why i dont post on here much its a drama each trying to prove they are right and i have read all the replys to this blog. Me i am not very good at posting on here but you said it all and i agree with you totally, God Bless you !
---Lea on 5/19/11

You see MarkV, you were handed a TEST, and you just failed the test. You cannot take any criticism without retaliating with your hateful remarks, not just to me but others. Now you go back and read your judgemental comments. You presume to know for a fact that I do not know Jesus Christ. You see the lies coming out of yoursef. That's your emotions and self pride getting in the way. Your old nature taking over.

Have you EVER once just turned the other cheek...just once? That's the right of passage Markv, and when you can do that, Christ is in you working through you.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/11

Kathr, I wish to respond to what you wrote to Mark, if you don't mind???
God has the right to do as He chooses, and knows best. He alone is all wise, all knowing. As a human being, we can perhaps say someone is wicked, but we don't know their heart fully as God does, and He alone knows from start to finish, and whether or not that person may turn to Him. We are to love our enemies, Judgment belongs to the Lord, as does revenge. Everyman's life, and death, is in Gods hands.
---Christina on 5/19/11

MarkV, answer your own question here. Is God destroying the wicked an act of Love? If you say YES, then you do in your own way believe it is right to try to destroy someone you too feell is wicked, Calvin also believed destroying those he believed wicked was his showing love for God.

Quite the opposite.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/11

Kathr, the reason you say what you do is because you don't have true love for Christ. If you had it, you would not only feel it, but you would be showing that love to others, but all that comes out of you is hate, venom, slander, pride, envy, those mentioned in Mark 7:21-23. That is why you argue against love. You don't have it, because you don't feel it. I knew I was right.
That is why I told you that you had the wrong gospel a while back. You had no repentance when you committed your life to Christ, you said so yourself. You say you got everything after, and now we see you forgot to get love and a new heart. That is why you have no love for others.
---Mark_V. on 5/19/11

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MarkV, have you ever done something sacrificial for someone you never met, having no emotonal attachment too? Or do you only love people you have known for a while.

Would you give your last dollar to a stranger so they could eat and you go hungry? Would you walk 10 miles in 100% heat to help someone you never met?

You see, how can emotions be involved?

Whle we were yet sinners and totally separated from God, Christ died for us..ALL of us, even those He knew would reject Him.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/11

kathr, you sure make a lot of accusations with nothing to back you up but what comes out of your heart through your mouth to me, Daune, Haz and others.
"For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery, coveting. wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, "envy, slander, pride, foolishness." All these things come from within, and they defile a man" That is what is happening to you. Slander, envy, pride are the most. And a lot comes out of it. I do not love you because I'm commanded to, but because I care for your soul. But all you care about is to accuse which tells me you have a lot of things to take care of.
---Mark_V. on 5/19/11

God is Love, and His love is very different from human love. God's love is unconditional, not based on feelings or emotions. He doesn't love us because we're lovable or because we make Him feel good, He loves us because He is love. He created us to have a loving relationship with Him, and He sacrificed His own Son (who also willingly died for us) to restore that relationship.

Agape LOVE shows itself in action, not in emotions. Just as John said, don't say you love someone in need, and then say...hope it all works out.

Just as faith without works is dead. Love without action is dead.

I love my children unconditionally. I may not always like( human feelings) them, but I will ALWAYS LOVE them !
---kathr4453 on 5/19/11

Mathew 5:46 "For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? ..."

From a long talk that Jesus had with the general population!
"And there followed him great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan."(Matt. 4:25)>>(Matt. 8:1).

His inner circle is COMMANDED that they "love one another, as I have loved you..
So, kath, you are right..., it is not about feeling but even by command....

However, faking is not allowed!!!

Matt.9:13 "But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance."
Micah 6:8
---Nana on 5/19/11

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The Bible says, "God is love," in 1 John 4:8 & 16. Love involves personal involvement and caring and sharing with feelings and emotions. God is personal, and God has feelings in His love, so His love "in our hearts" (Romans 5:5) shares with us what He Himself is feeling, I consider . . . as much as we are each "one spirit with Him." (in 1 Corinthians 6:17) But I am still impersonal with ones who are a problem for me. But when Jesus spoke with that rich man who was not being real with Jesus, Jesus "loved him and said" (in Mark 10:21) what He said. So, Jesus was personally loving with wrong people. The prodigal son's father had unconditional love with feelings.
---Bill_willa6989 on 5/19/11

MarkV, it is evident here that you love only those who love you and agree with your doctrine. That's human love, conditional love. But you do not display agape love towards those who disagree with you. You do not demonstrate HIS SACRIFICIAL Love within you, BECAUSE you let YOUR human feelings get in the way.

You do NOT have a sacrificial love for the LOST, as Jesus Christ did.

Therefore humanly speaking human love can also display itself in human understanding, and can easily turn to HATE when one does not reciprocate.

You accuse God of human love and hate, based on your own understanding.

TRUE Love wants NOTHING in return!

God does not HATE anyone because His love was spurned.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/11

The object of agape love never does anything to merit His love. His love was demonstrated when He sent His Son to die on a cross.

It is clear only God can generate within us the kind of self-sacrificing love which is the proof that we are His children. ** 1 John 3:16.

Sacrificial love is not based on a feeling, but a determined act of the will, to put the welfare of others above our own. Because of our fallen nature, we are incapable of producing such a love. If we are to love as God loves, that love that agape can only come from its true Source. This is the love which has been poured out in our hearts through the Holy Spirit given to us when we became His children.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/11

Nana, Cain did not LOVE Abel, Cain HATED Abel. Cain was driven by human EMOTION and jealousy.

Love the way God askes us Christians to love is not a human emotion. We cannot emotionally LOVE anyone who murders and rapes our children, but we can however, through His supernatural Power love and forgive.

Absolom LOVED Tamar and raped her....

Peter LOVED Jesus yet betrayed Him 3 times. Human love has NO POWER. Human love is flawed.

After Jesus rose from the dead, Jesus asked peter 3 times, do you LOVE me. Jesus used AGAPE Love the third time. 1st John uses Agape love. Agape does not flow from our emotions.

There are three types of love in scripture but all use the same word love. Not all have the same definition.
---kathr4453 on 5/19/11

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1. A strong affection or liking for someone or something.
2. A passionate affection of one person for another.
3. The object of such affection sweetheart or lover. Vt., Vi. "to feel love (for)-in love-feeling love."
No matter how anyone calls it, a believer in Christ feels that love, because Christ is Love. If anyone does not feel that Love, which is Christ, they are still dead. Dead people do not have feelings. Only those who are alive to Christ have that feeling.
---Mark_V. on 5/19/11

"I forgive all my enemies, and believe me, there is no EMOTIONAL LOVE attached. It's an ACT of the WILL, not emotion.
---kathr4453 on 5/18/11

Matthew 5:46 "For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?"
Matthew 18:35 "So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses."

Is there such thing as 'mind' love towards our fellow man? Never heard of it. Seems as if Cain loved Abel with his mind.
---Nana on 5/18/11

MarkV, AGAPE Love is what we have, not natural human love. Agape love is a supernatural love. It does not come from our EMOTIONS.

To love the Lord with all your heart soul and mind is to OBEY regardless of how you may FEEL. I may not FEEL like forgiving you, however out of LOVE for the Lord, and I'm not having an emotional moment here) I forgive you.

I forgive all my enemies, and believe me, there is no EMOTIONAL LOVE attached. It's an ACT of the WILL, not emotion.

But those driven by emotions do act emotional.
---kathr4453 on 5/18/11

mima, what I FELT the moment I was saved was the Presence of God. What I felt was the Holy Spirit shedding abroad in MY HEART the Love of God. I felt HIS LOVE. I was so overcome by HIS LOVE that it almost crushed me.

My spirit witnessed with God's Spirit that I was His Child.

I felt peace beyond my understanding.

My love GREW for the Lord AFTER He revealed His love for me. I LEARNED what Love was by God's love for me. He taught me how to love.

And remember Jesus said IF you love me you WILL obey me.

Love is not a feeling, but an action word. Our faith works through LOVE, but our faith does not work through our EMOTIONS. Our faith cannot depend on our emotions, either before or after salvation.
---kathr4453 on 5/18/11

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Mark V Well said,I agree with you,as a Christian we do experience feelings as part of our relationship with Christ. God is love and when his love moves into our hearts we feel it. Another way God uses feelings in us is to get our attention when we need to pray for others. Many times in my life I have started to feel nerveous or anxious for no known reason,there is an urgency, I know someone needs prayer. I pray all day. I usually find out later why and who needed it and sometimes God quickens a specific person to me while I pray. God does speak to us through feelings but although God may move us by feelings,we only can only move him by faith.
---Darlene_1 on 5/18/11

I don't believe "emotions" are so readily recognizable after the Holy Spirit has dealt with the individual. Everyone is different. Feelings, or lack thereof, do not signify anything spiritually.
After receiving the Lord Jesus as Savior. I wasn't expecting to "feel" anything, but I had a sense of "lightness" (as in removal of a weight).

I've learned not to depend on emotions, however. We walk by faith, make decisions by faith, place our faith in God and the promises of His Word.
---Donna66 on 5/18/11

I don't agree with everything Kathr said. The first way to know if what we believe in is true or not, is if we have a true Love for Christ. That is a feeling we know of if we have it. For no one saved can be without that feeling. That love is not dead, it is alive. And everyone who is truly saved has that living feeling.
Of course we should be careful about our emotions, and feelings, but not when they are directed at Christ. I still feel what I felt when Christ came into my heart. In fact, I feel it even more now that then. We don't need to get pumped-up to feel that feeling. It should be present always. If He lives in you, you will feel it and you will give evidence of it without trying. He will display Himself through your good actions.
---Mark_V. on 5/18/11

Don't look for feelings, look for CHANGE.

If you experience a uporic feeling, believe me, that will change. One day your on top of the world, the next, in emotional hell. Then you think, God has left me. WRONG!

Feeling or whatever in your SPIRIT is not the same as your emotions...believe me!
---kathr4453 on 5/18/11

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aka asked"if i did not have the same experience that you did, is there no salvation for me? Yes there is salvation for you. The type of experience does not determine your salvation. Or the fact that you had any identifiable experience in all does not determine your salvation. I believe your salvation is determined by the Word of God. Nevertheless most people do have some identifiable feelings.
---mima on 5/17/11

Faith has nothing to do with feelings. To get caught up in feelings, which satan is in control of our emotional parts, can really mess with you.

God will bring you to a place of obedience of faith WITHOUT any feelings at all. Boy what a test that is.

Feelings can and will deceive.

Being slain in the spirit..not biblical, is all about feelings, and many go back for more because they like the feeling. Many go to begin with, because they have lost that loving feeling. The devil is having a hay day with you. How many have said, "I know God brought that man or woman into my life, It just FEELS right", all the while they are both married to another.
---kathr4453 on 5/17/11

I believe one needs to be careful not to follow feelings, as they are not the truth itself, and may deceive. However, feelings are often present when the Holy Spirit works in and through us. We are not robots.

When I first truly started to seek the Lord and accepted Jesus, I was confused by someone who told me that when I got saved, i should have experienced certain things, manifestations, and I would KNOW because of the manifestations that I was saved. That was causing me to question whether or not I was truly saved, which in turn drove me to seek further what God says in His Word. Although Paul had a dramatic conversion, many refernces simply stated that they believed. As for my feelings when saved, i felt peace
---christina on 5/17/11

Well, one time I thought I got saved, and I was excited and glad to be accepted by the church. But I was busy with criticizing people, and then I fell apart.

Later, I did like the thief on the cross > simply see who Jesus is and offer myself to Him, and then I was renewed and encouraged, but still needing correction, and depending on Him to guide me, all the time, and depending on God to have me believe whatever He wants me to believe.

"But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him." (1 Corinthians 6:17) If you are "one spirit with" God who is so beautifully wonderful in Heaven's love, you will feel Him.
---Bill_willa6989 on 5/17/11

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\\ Feelings ...are nearly always recognizable after the Holy Spirit has dealt with the individual. \\

No they are not, and if you think so, mima, you are deluded. You have NO verses to back up this false notion,.

We walk by faith, NOT by sight or feelings. Remember in SCREWTAPE LETTERS that the man is urged by his demons and NOT the Holy Spirit to judge his spiritual state by his "feelings."

\\receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior?\\

Where does the Bible use this formula, mima?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/16/11

I remember how I felt after my conversion. First I was ecstatic. But then...

I wanted to beat somebody to a pulp for never explaining the cross to me as a kid.

I wanted to cuss out every person who ever deceived me into saying a sinner's prayer.

I wanted to bust my pastor in the head and take the microphone from him and tell the gospel to a congregation that had never heard it.

I wanted to know how many others are in church being deceived like I was.

I was elated, angry, assured, incensed, sad, indignant, joyful,

full of every emotion imaginable
---James_L on 5/16/11

I remember thinking that the women who came to my parents' home were rude. My sister had attended a Baptist church that sent evangelists out to visit guests and new members homes. These legalists came into my parents home, sat at the dining room table to share their faith. When my mother started to smoke a cigarette, they boldly told her it is a sin to smoke. That was in 1974.

As for my salvation, I remember being confused. These ladies wanted me to come to their church, and confess my salvation in front of the congregation. I was only 14 at the time, and the thought of standing in front of a group of strangers confessing anything scared me. I was raised Catholic, and confession meant something totally different to me.
---Trish on 5/16/11

when i was finally delivered from the circular non-sense that the different denominations offer and their respective view of salvation, i felt greatly relieved.

but, it took many years and many tears. the working of the Holy Spirit in my life were more like epiphanies for me that resulted in a different degree of faith and not emotions.

if i did not have the same experience that you did, is there no salvation for me?
---aka on 5/16/11

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