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Satan Has Access To Heaven

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In the contest for the soul, God likes a good game of chess.
---sin on 11/3/14

Revelation 12:11 - And they over came him by the blood of the lamb, and the word of their testimony: and they loved not their lives unto the death.
---RICHARDC on 7/8/14

If you read Revelation 12 you'll see that it tells of Satan being cast out of the heavens (along with a 1/3 of the angels) just before Christ was born... Satan was very angry and that was what Jesus contended with during His time on earth (a very angry cast-out Satan). What Satan does now is accuses us to us (remember, he no longer has access to the Father). That is where condemnation comes in, which we're not to live under, when we listen to the lies of the Enemy. Jesus Christ has delivered us once and for all to live in freedom from condemnation.
---Lauree on 7/7/14

On 7/14/11 Barb said, "Satan no longer has access to heaven. Rev. 12:7-9." But this event [like most of Revelation]is yet to come. It's completely out of context to suppose it's a flashback. We have yet to see the Great Red Dragon cast to down. When we do, it'll literally be HELL ON EARTH! [No Exaggeration!]
---Fenrisulfr on 1/20/12

Satan no longer has access to heaven. Rev. 12:7-9. Satan was cast out of Heaven after Jesus' resurrection. He is now confined to earth and he has great wrath for the woman who gave birth to Jesus and the remnant of her seed. Rev. 12:17.

Jesus died to pay the death penalty for His Kingdom and He purchased The Kingdom of Heaven (his followers and bonservants who keep the 10 commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus) with His blood. Rev. 5:9-12.
---barb on 7/14/11

Legends, thanks for the response. We can continue to dialogue if you wish. I have no problem with that. The more one looks at Scripture, the more we learn. Peace brother
---Mark_V. on 7/13/11

Appreciate the explanation. Blogging is very hard to hear tone of voice.
Continue blogging on the subject if you will. I haven't stopped listening. When I/you stop listening, there's no need to waste words.
125 words are few. Misinterpretations, bound to happen. That's okay! But be mindful that dismissal of a bloggers' legitamacy(as I believe you did) on a subject tends to come across as a smack.
Your disagreement with me NEVER comes across as a smack. If this were true, I would be the one who smacks myself the most seeing I've changed opinion on many doctrinal matters through the years.
Let's continue discussions and cease the smack. You very well know we both will continue to blog anyway. LOL
Peace to you either way!
---Legends on 7/11/11

Legends, let me say first that I respect you alot. No question about that. What I said was not to accuse you of something wrong. If you and I was talking in person, and you talked about personalities the way you did, I would have said the same thing but you would have understood how I said it. Online we cannot show how the words are said. So if I hurt your feelings I sure am sorry. I realized you got angry and just wanted to stop the discussion before it really cause some division. No need to open a door and give room for sin to enter. I will move on to other questions. Thank you so much for the explanations, questions and answers. Peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 7/9/11

(You think too much when Scripture is right in front of you, and come out with some over the wall stuff. Your "if's" are confusing you. I thought you had a legit case.)-MarkV
You well know that I have never had any friction with you regarding a division over a doctrine. But when I see an unneccesary jab like the one above come at me, it makes me bristle a bit.
I think as long as two people hold two opinions there should be a noted division in opinion but not neccesarily in fellowship.
I-F you are right in interpretation, I need to hear you. Not ridicule you or misquote you.
"I-F" I brought a jab on myself by unknowingly jabbing you first... I apologize in love to a true brother in Christ.
---Legends on 7/8/11

Legends, I can understand many things but never claim to know it all or be master of anyone. There's One Master of all.
It written, and if you have faith you can move a mountain. Because it's written it does not mean the mountain will move for you. What if others don't want the mountain to move? Who is the mountain going to listen to? it cannot. When storms stopped, it doesn't mean the storm has a personality. It means that God has the power to stop what He created. The ocean moves on its own, yet God controls how far it goes, and the storms come because of different climate changes but God has the power to bring a storm on anyone.
Maybe I should have not answered your questions if it is going to bring division. So I leave you peace.
---Mark_V. on 7/8/11

I understand better why you take verses about heavenly hosts, king of Babylon, King of Tyrus(and make them say more than the prophets and the apostles ever said. You just clearly did the same with my blog. I hope this tactic isn't just to look like the master of a blogsite. I hope it's simply a true misread of my blog.
I repeat my point: Jesus like His Father spoke to things A-S(LIKE) personalities.
Mark, you ask for Bible references but I notice when you do these blogs, you ignore the scripture I give.
Address Jesus' telling a storm to shut up and be silent and the winds and waves OBEYED. Mark ch4
---Legends on 7/8/11

Legends, I'm shocked at what you said to Micha. That mountains have personalities, and trees and storms because Christ spoke to them and they understood Him. Now you are saying they are persons. That can talk, understand, think, cause trouble as the storms. Legends, only people have personalities. When God spoke something into existence, that something did not have a personality. It came from nothing to something. God has the power over anything He created. It doesn't mean that everything He created have personalities. That is just nonesense. You think too much when Scripture is right in front of you, and come out with some over the wall stuff. Your "if's" are confusing you. I thought you had a legit case.
---Mark_V. on 7/8/11

My context point is Satan is definitely a personality, just NEVER an angel(former angel of Heaven).
I have clearly asserted that Jesus spoke to a storm, as a personality, telling it "shut up and be quiet". He told Peter the same thing. He treated a tree as personality by speaking to it. Told us, speak to mountains likewise. Sin/death REIGNED over mankind. High thoughts and imaginations EXALT THEMSELVES.
We will SPEAK to Death saying, "where is YOUR victory?"
Again I say that anyTHING or anyONE that opposes God's word is The Adversary(ha-satan).
God treats ALL opposition as a personality by speaking to it. Jesus only did what He saw His Father do. Thus speaking to storms etc as PERSONALITIES!
---Legends on 7/8/11

Legends 2: As your argument you say that there was a place call Eden in Eze. 27:23, but the king of Tyre is not the king of Eden. Has no reference to the original habitation of man, which was located in lower Babylonia in the Tigres-Euphrates country (Gen. 2:10-14). And since we know that the king was not been referred to in the lament of satan because the king could not possibly had been present in Eden and fallen from Eden, the passage is speaking of satan. And gives his name and who he was before falling.
---Mark_V. on 7/8/11

Legends, the word of God is truth. And the first duty of the student of Scripture is to believe the Word of God is the only Truth. When God says "if" in Scripture it is "if" in Scripture. If it does not then it is not. The "if's" you presented are not in Scripture. The context of every passage is what is important. The "host" in Gen. 2:1 can only mean "an army of angels" in the context since the stars are not an army, but objects of material things. The words of Gen. 2:1-3 affirm that God had completed His work. Four times it is said that He finished His work and 3 times it is said that this included all His work.
---Mark_V. on 7/8/11

There were many historic "IF"s rejected by church folks who wouldn't consider their beliefs may be incorrect.
-IF the world isn't flat, it may be round.
-IF God wants humans to fly, the fact that we don't have wings has nothing to do with Wilbur building an airplane.
IF Black people are equally created as humans, maybe we shouldn't count them as 2/3 a person and set them free.
Used correctly, IF often leads one out of error.
-Gen2:1 HOST of HEAVEN here clearly refers to sun,moon,stars. Just like the HOST of waters is marine life.
-Turn back one chapter from Ezekiel 28 and you will find that EDEN was a merchant of Tyrus 27:23... Context!
Stop glueing Is14 and Ez28 together to create an angel named Lucifer.
---Legends on 7/7/11

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Legends 3: Ezekiel identifies the source that was motivating the King as well. And gives a clear discription of who satan was, what he did, and what God did with him and what He will do to him at a later time. "You were perfect in your ways (before his rebellion) from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you. by the abundance of your trading you became filled with violence within, and you sinned, Therefore I cast you as a profane thing Out of the mountain of God"
Yes he was perfect in beauty "You were in Eden, the garden of God" So we know God was speaking about satan since the king of Tyre had not been born. Satan was present in Eden.
---Mark_V. on 7/7/11

Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
Zec 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan, even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: [is] not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
Mark 3:26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired [to have] you, that he may sift [you] as wheat:
2Cor 11:14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
-sounds like a singular personality to me...
---micha9344 on 7/7/11

Legends 2: I know what you said already about Ez. 28, but you have it wrong. Here Eze was told by Christ what to say to the king of Tyre, and he goes on what he was suppose to say, (v. 11-19) this lament over "the king of Tyre" reached behind to the real supernatural source of wickedness, satan, who had influence the King, the same influence is found in Matt. 16:21-23, where Peter was rebuked by the Lord as under satanic control and motivation. It was satan to whom Jesus was condemning for influencing and motivation Peter to act as he did.
---Mark_V. on 7/7/11

Legends, "if" doesn't count as truth. It only implies something. On the six day of Creation "Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished." Gen.2:1.
The heavenly host (angels) were created before the fall of man. So the rebellion of satan occurred sometime after (1:31) (when everything in creation was good) but before ( 3:1). The serpent was a manifestation of satan. John identified this creature as satan (Rev 12:9, 20:2) as did Paul ( 1 Cor. 11:3). Heavenly host are (angels) in Scripture. The word (tsava or tsvaah) means an army of heavenly host. Satan and the rest of the angels with him have the capacity to influence people for evil. Which is the case in the context of Eze. 28:
---Mark_V. on 7/7/11

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So he can see what he will never have. Bugs have access to castles also, but eventually they are stepped upon and extinguished.
---Eloy on 7/7/11


This interesting info. I have heard it before and do doubt it but will certainly examine it a little closer to see if my view point can be definite or yours.

Gods peace
---willa5568 on 7/6/11

Viewpoints! Love you both!
See my point using the "if" method.
This method requires one to assume a "maybe" fault for a brief moment.
IF there's was no angel ever named Lucifer(which I believe Willa and I agree). And even though the Bible clearly teaches about satan, IF there was no singular non-human personality created as tempter... then you are left with the question, "what did the Bible writers mean when they clearly spoke about satan/devil?
Answers are in Mark ch4. That along with Jesus' rebuke of the wind,a tree,Peter,the brood of VIPERS better known as the Pharisees/Saducees.
-There are devils and not just THE/a devil.
Willa, Romans teaches that SIN is the world system's god.
---Legends on 7/6/11


I don't believe I, Mark or any others I know blame Satan or anyone for our personal responsibility if we agree with God. So whether he is a being or not the result is still the same, we are tempted by sin which entered into the world by mans being deceived by Satan. It is documented throughout the NT there is an adversary who also has a kingdom. We either serve the god of this world(eion, so it would better read "age") or the God of heaven and earth.
---willa5568 on 7/6/11

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Legends, so you do believe there is demons and a devil. Well the Bible says there is so you are right. You said about a doctrine,
"A human doctrine that doesn't take personal responsibility but places blame on God's angels MUST AND WILL FALL." I don't know of anyone putting blame on God's angels, but many blame the enemy and his angels, evil spirits, or demons for things they are responsible for doing.
So I believe you are right. A certain particular denomination does and a few other individuals. Like Eve they blame the enemy for everything bad. Sins are committed by individuals. They don't want to admit, that people are really depraved and if it wasn't for God who restrains sin, we would have all killed ourselves by now.
---Mark_V. on 7/6/11

(what you are really saying is, there's no devil/satan)-MarkV
Past blogs on this subject shows more than enough evidence I've never said, there's no devil/satan.
Me saying, satan is J-U-S-T a human, would be saying Adolf Hitler, Stalin, Attilah, Bull Conner etc were JUST small nuisances. They ruined their domains. Their words, thoughts and deeds were the personification of satan unhindered until the sword of God stopped them.
High thoughts that oppose God's truth that find themselves in high places of authority have to be brought low.
A human doctrine that doesn't take personal responsibility but places blame on God's angels MUST AND WILL FALL.
Satan falls when truth is preached. Satan reigns as long as a lie is unchallenged.
---Legends on 7/6/11

Legends, I tried hard to read both of your post, and hope I right, and come to the conclusion that what you are really saying is, there is really no devil. No satan. That it's just people, animals who are the real devil. But that Christianity made it all up to blame someone else, is that correct? Since you said a lot in two post, I want to make sure you are saying just that.
---Mark_V. on 7/6/11

A physical storm opposed God's will for Jesus Mark4:34-41. Jesus stood and REBUKED the storm as if IT was a person(Just like Jesus REBUKED Peter, A PERSON, and EVEN The Father God REBUKED Peter on the Mount of Transfiguration). Centuries later, unscriptural church tradition is so deep in us, we try to rebuke an angel, alleged to be FORMERLY NAMED LUCIFER, that never existed when we should be rebuking the real opponents of our faith. Cares, lusts, deceitfulness of riches, persecutions, HUMANS! These are the adversaries. This is satan's identification!
-MISIDENTIFICATION/Adam's first misidentification of his wife IS the deception BEFORE the fall. Adam, not an angel did this. This point has previously been blogged.
---Legends on 7/6/11

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Matthew13:39 Jesus said, HUMAN enemies sowing tares in opposition to wheat IS the devil.
EX. Get behind me Satan, spoken directly to PETER, A HUMAN, after Peter opposed Jesus' destiny. Jesus taught, Satan comes immediately to steal the word. But never taught the devil as one singular former angel.
Jesus taught Satan COMES as OPPPOSITION in many forms. Study Mark ch4, Birds,heat,thorns,storm CAME TO TAKE SEED FROM IT'S PURPOSE. Mk4:15 SATAN(bird sun, heat etc) COMES TO TAKE
-CARES, what to eat/drink. "Turn these stones to bread"
-LUSTS/PRESSURES/DECEITFUL RICHES, Make a name for yourself. "Publicly cast yourself down from temple-top proving you da' man! BUT blame THE ANGELS if you fall!
---Legends on 7/5/11

Legends, I was wondering first why you do not think that satan and the demons are literal angels. If they are not human, or animals, what do you say they are?
Second, you said that Adam made all the adversaries of mankind, but Adam did not create satan. He was here before the fall already an adversary of God. If he was not an adversary before the fall, then what was he doing deceiving Eve? Just a few questions for you. Just to see where you are going with this.
---Mark_V. on 7/4/11

Amen Mark!
Willa, if the Christadelphians( or whoever) and I agree on something, I pray it's because we are both in concert with truth on that particular subject. Last time I checked I was still on the Baptist rolls. LOL
Seriously, I find the traditional teachings about "former angel" Lucifer to be highly erroneous. A horrible mis-read! But moreover, that teaching is adversarial against God's principal of personal responsibility.
---Legends on 7/4/11

My point about using atmosphere is to show the earth is where satan dwells and is god. Also heavenly places are literal though not seen yet. To say he enters before God ignores the fact that only righteousness can come before Gods throne until judgement. If he was "kicked" out of heaven when he sinned(which I consider false), why would he be allowed admission again?


I agree the Satan is a literal enemy but also that he is a being, though possibly wrong. What kind I don't know and reject him being an angel just as you. I have read some Christadelphian material, which sounds familiar to what you are saying about this subject and am still unsure if I agree. If that's not where you are coming from forgive me.
---willa5568 on 7/1/11

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Legends, I agree in your answer to me concerning Heavenly-places. My point to Willa was that the atmosphere is a literal place, and the heavenly-places is a supernatural realm, Spiritual since God is Spirit. He is not contained in one area, and to say He is in the atmosphere it would put Him in a literal place.
---Mark_V. on 7/1/11

Satan IS a literal enemy. Never a literal angel.
ADAM made mankind God's ADVERSARIES. HUMAN enemies kicked out of Eden! Sin/death rules over fallen mankind!
1Corinthians15:20 BY MAN CAME DEATH!
25Jesus must sit till all ENEMIES underfoot.
26 The last ENEMY that will be destroyed is DEATH(not a former angel).
When all things are underfoot, then "Literal Death" is "Literally" mocked. Death, where's your sting? Grave, where's your victory?
Romans8:7 Carnal mind/ENMITY AGAINST God:
Philippians3:18 Many people are THE ENEMIES of the cross.
Romans5:14 DEATH REIGNED from Adam to Moses.
Romans5:17 By one MAN'S offence DEATH reigned.
---Legends on 6/30/11

Word meaning isn't a matter of my opinion in this matter. Simple English language. "L-Y" at the end of a word causes that word to means (BLANK)-"like" or "similar to" or "in the manner of".
EX. The word God-ly means, "in or after the manner of God" "like God" "similar to God".
Certainly=after the manner of certainty.
Lowly=in a low manner.
Heaven-ly(LIKE) refers to high-TYPE places. Refers to sky,clouds/stars in the natural heavens. Or HEAVEN, God's throne SINCE it's the highest place of all authority. "Heaven-like"(HIGH) authority was first given to Adam. Jesus,last Adam, has all authority. Church is co-heir of that authority.
---Legends on 6/30/11

Legends, welcome again to the answers, Now you said,

"Heaven-ly" places, same as "heaven-like" places."

Where in Scripture did you read that? Or is it just your opinion or someone else's opinion?
---Mark_V. on 6/28/11

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That is very interesting and the first part is very good information. I was wondering though, are you saying Satan isn't a literal being? I don't want to debate over it if that is so, because I understand why it is taught. But if not then more stuff to look at.
---willa5568 on 6/27/11

"Heaven-ly" places, same as "heaven-like" places. When writers used this term, MOST times they were referring to "high authority". Ex. there were priests but there was also a HIGH priest. High meant "higher in authority".
Mountains/high places were places where leadership received their AUTHORITY TO LEAD. ex. Jerusalem,temples, Sinai,Nebo,Sermon on the Mount, Mount of Transfiguration,up hither.
Seeing that WE are seated together with Christ in heavenly places, when WE make an accusation of a brother, WE have brought the adversary(the satan) before God to accuse them instead of using our God given HIGH AUTHORITY to intercede for them.
ex. In God's presence, Job accused his sons of MAYBE sinning.
---Legends on 6/27/11


you know as well as I do the Greek word is not limited to where Gods throne is and does not refer to it every time it is used. And I agree with what you said about us being seated in heavenly places with Christ, different subject though.
---willa5568 on 6/26/11

The word says that Satan came to accuse Job but it does not say he was "in" heaven at the time. He did come from the earth to the Lord. That is true.
But, the word also says many times the king sat in the gate. It also says nothing unclean shall enter.
There is that chance that when he presented himself to the Lord to accuse Job it was outside the gate.
---Del on 6/25/11

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Willa, not the atmosphere. After explaining first that we were made alive even when we were dead in trespasses, He "raised us up together with Christ, and made us seat together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus" Eph. 4-7.
Jesus is at the right hand of the Father. This is the supernatural realm where God reigns. In 3:10 and 6:12 we see that it also refers to the supernatural sphere where satan temporarily rules. This realm is where believers blessing are (v. 1:3) and their inheritance is (1 Peter 1:4). And their affections should be (Col. 3:3) and where they enjoy fellowship with the Lord.
---Mark_V. on 6/24/11

You forget that satan is the accuser of the breathren and Jesus is our advocate to the father in heaven when satan does this.
When we mess up, satan is back in God's face pointing the finger at us saying we desrve to burn right along with him. Jesus turns to the father and says "NO, they are under my blood, they are your child, let me continue to work with them."
Where do you think the argument takes place?
down here?
No, we wrestele with spirits and principalities in HIGH places.
There is war going on in heaven that we can't even see for the souls of mankind.
---ginger on 6/24/11

here is a better way to translate the end of Ephesians 6:12 to understand what is being said "...spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenlies." The reason heavenlies is used is because there is no greek word used for place or realm.
Ephesians 2:2 explains what the heavenlies are "...according to the ruler of the authority of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience (YLT)"

Satan is the God of this world, which man had given authority to through disobedience.Heavenlies refers to the earths atmosphere, not Gods heaven.
---willa5568 on 6/23/11

Many here may want to reread Job 1 and 2 without any preconceived notions.
Ask yourself: Have I ever, as a son of God, presented myself before the Lord?
Is not Satan among us(covertly or otherwise) seeking whom he may devour?
Are there any other scriptures(witnesses, prophets) to support Satan having access to heaven?
Are your pushing this view into the scripture(s) or is that what it is actually saying?
Discerning the Truth must be paramount.
---micha9344 on 6/23/11

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//Didn't Satan go to God in heaven and conversate with God about Job?//

Ginger, satan did this PRE-JESUS. Once Jesus shed his Blood for our sins, when God sees us, he sees us through the Blood of Jesus, so how can satan accuse us if we've been redeemed and cleansed by the blood of the Lamb?

In think PRE-JESUS DAYS, yes satan had access to the throne, but after Jesus died and rose from the grave, NO, satan is no longer allowed in heaven.
---Donna5535 on 6/23/11

Pierre, I apologize for not giving you the chapters and verses, but see, others have already beat me to it.

There are many indications that satan still has access.
At least until Christ comes back for his people. Then he will be cast down for all eternity, never to rise again!!
---ginger on 6/23/11

Ginger I agree with your answer that demons and satan come back and forth from heaven to earth. Eph. (3:10 and 6:12) indicate they do,

"For we do not wrestle agains flesh and blood" This is a spiritual battle, "but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places,"

And 3:10 again says these principalities and powers, angels good and bad "to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places"
---Mark_V. on 6/22/11

the thing i think we need to remember is,GOD's way's are not like OUr way's and GOD Loves all HIS Creation...
---kevin5443 on 6/21/11

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Rev 12:10

"10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW IS COME SALVATION, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

He's doin it every single day.... maybe even now.
---Jasheradan on 6/21/11

Ginger: Thank you for your response. You did not howevr give me chapter and verse to help me with the question at hand.
---Pierre on 6/21/11

If you threw someone out of your house because of the same thing Lucifer was thrown out for, would you let them back in?

I don't think satan has access to heaven and pleazzzeee don't capitolize his name, he doesn't get that privilege in my eyes.

I don't think he has access to heaven at all. Strike three and he's out-forever. His next home is hell.
---Donna5535 on 6/21/11

I think you misunderstood those verses.
When it says to and fro from the earth, it means from heaven to earth and back again....
God and Satan did not have the conversation about Job here on earth.
Not to mention ....again, that Satan is the acuser of the brethren. He does this right in front of God. Do you seriously believe God is going to come down here to let Satan acuse his sons and daughters?
No, The Bible also says that Jesus is in heaven making intercession for us.
He is our lawyer pleading our case to God against Satan right in front of God who is on the throne.
---ginger on 6/21/11

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Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands,
And yet francis would say that this multitude is on Earth. Am I correct in this statement francis?
---micha9344 on 6/20/11

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Job 2:7 So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD,

1 FACT satan was in th elord's present with others
2 FACTS: satan presented himself before God

the big question is where does God live:
Job 22:12 [Is] not God in the height of heaven?
---francis on 6/20/11

Satan HAD access to Heaven as Lucifer, but he gave that up when he got kicked out of Heaven for pride and rebellion. Now he no longer and will no longer have access to Heaven - at least the 3rd Heaven where God and His angels reside and the throne room is. He will only have access to the 1st Heaven (Earth) and the 2nd Heaven where he and his demons reside.
---Leslie on 6/20/11

Ginger:Can you give me chapter and verse indicating that the activity in Job 1:6
took place in heaven.
Job 1:7 God asks Satan " From where do you come? " and Satan
answered " from going to and fro ON THE EARTH, from walking
back and forth ON IT." It sounds to me like he never made it back to heaven, after he was expelled from heaven.
---Pierre on 6/20/11

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\\So, we have an entire book in the Bible that says he has access to heaven.\\


You have only two references in one book.

But you also have Jesus, Who said in the Holy Gospels that He saw "Satan fall like lighting from heaven."

Whatever might have been the case in the Book of Job, things are different since the Incarnation.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/20/11

Didn't Satan go to God in heaven and conversate with God about Job?

Yep I believe he did.So, we have an entire book in the Bible that says he has access to heaven. Do we need any more proof than that?
He is also going back and forth speaking to God and accusing the brethren before God's very throne. So, yes he still has access. He just does not live there anymore.
---ginger on 6/20/11

Which would explain why he accuses us before the throne of God day and night.....

You can't just take the pastor's word for it and read 3 verses of scripture.

The war in heaven hasn't happened yet.
---Jasheradan on 6/20/11

You assume wrongly that Satan has access to heaven. He does not!
ISA 14.12 tells us that before
he sinned, Lucifer lived in heaven but when he caused war to break out in heaven, he was
thrown out of heaven with a third of the angels and there was no longer a place for him in heaven (see REV 12:7-9.)
---Pierre on 6/20/11

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Satan has his job to do. He does the Satanic stuff. He is under God's direction and control, and his work is vital. Since God doesn't tempt, someone has to do it! :-)
---John.usa on 6/19/11

What makes you think he does?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/19/11

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