What Is Perfect Love
There is no fear in love, but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
So then HOW are we made perfect in love? My friend who has been in fear for 32 years and In Christ Jesus 32 years....how can she be made perfect in love?
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---Donna5535 on 7/21/11
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Man, in his wildest imagination, could never know perfect love. It cannot be defined with worldly words, but only through the spirit. We must continually strive toward love by continually seeking God and his kingdom. Love is a verb not a noun and by applying genuine love in everything you do will one get a small inkling of what perfect love is. Do an online bible search for "one another", "each other", and "comfort" to help you get started in applying love.
It is getting harder to know love as each day passes and the end comes closer for in the end great tribulation will wipe out love.
---Steveng on 6/3/12|
When one fully believe that God loves us enough to sent His son Jesus to died on the cross for us to be save us from eternal condemnation,one can fully trust that God's love for us is unconditional.So having thought about this, what more God cannot give for us?
We need to fully trust Him that He has our best interest on His heart.
God looks for our welfare..
---mj on 6/3/12|
Perfect love, is having the best interest of another person at heart, with the altimate goal of the salvation of both people
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.
Therefor perfect love never involved leading anyone into sin, because sin is contrary to love and salvation.
If someone loves you with perfect love, he or she will seek the best for you, ncluding your salvation ( regardless of religion) and never lead you into sin, thus neither of you will have anything to fear
---francis on 6/2/12|
Famiy,certainly we can nev'r be perfect! thing is to hold out NO matter what!.. those who do not know,nor care to believe they are athiests have no spiritual vision as a christian comes to god and lives,believes inspite of the situation,we must believe becuz just the mere breath we are allowed & our faith must REMAIN..Like I always say god's way perfect...glory to God! sweet,tested,tried. jhn3 :16,Ep.5:1,Ep.5:19 jer.3:25.
---ELENA on 5/28/12|
The love many show towards others is many times not the love that Jesus was talking about. Jesus presented a distinctlly new standard for two reasons, the first one, it was a sacrificail love modeled after His love (as I have loved you) and second, this love can only be produced through the New Covenant by the transforming power of the Holy Spirit (Jer. 31:29-34: Ezek. 36:24-26: Gal. 5:22). That is how Jesus wanted us to love others, to model it like His own love. Man can never have that kind of love, but we should strife towards that love.
---Mark_V. on 11/25/11|
Frank, sorry you misunderstood, and late answering you.
No, I am not slamming your statement at all. What you said is very good.
I was giving a peace of the nature of man. We take pride in many things. It does not mean that every time we speak we are prideful, but that many times the love we normally display is not Scriptural,
"Love suffers long and is kind, love does not envy, love does not parade itself, is not puffed up, does not behave rudely, does not seek it's own, is not provoked, thinks no evil, does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth, bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things." We come short of many of those. That was all. Peace
---Mark_V. on 11/25/11|
hello! Family! this brother Frank/ 7/30/11 Sum it up so well! That is exactly,what I been trying to say...to some folks round the barrio.. thebrothers/sisters... we should love & pray for/true concern & care 'bout one another..... seek peace & pursue it! Christ is our perfect example! we here and rejoice! bless you! Love of Jesus!
---ELENA on 11/23/11|
I can say that it means that God's love for us is perfect.It is free of filth,imperfections and it is constant.And through this,we knowingly, that we can anchor on God every now and then.And this cast away our fear.we are indeed secured in God's love
---mj on 8/3/11|
So am I correct that you are slamming me saying that my statement was out of pride?
The post on God given love was correct and trying to correct it is pride.
Half of you people wouldn't know a God given love if he sat next to you at church.
The vast majority of what I see here are a bunch of know-it-alls that are only out to prove you know more than the next guy.
You people need to grow up and quit insulting others with your accusations.
---Frank on 8/2/11|
Rickey, Mark E, I agree with both of you. God's perfect love is perfect. Our love is never perfect. It takes work and sanctification through time, in order for us to display love, but we will never have it perfect in this life as God's perfect love for that's His nature.
I also hear pride, pride involves in everyone's life. There is no person that is not prideful at times. I also hear'
"The Lord said "Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect."
Of course He said that. Would He ever say He expects less? Of course not. Does He expect us to be perfect in the flesh? No. He left us here in the flesh and the reason we have to do our part, we are commanded to work with the Spirit by abiding in Christ.
---Mark_V. on 7/31/11|
The Lord said "Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect."
Perfect love is that God given love for one's brethren that are in a unity of the faith whereby they are truly brothers, sisters and mothers closer than blood relatives. Those whom you woud give all for and die for without so much as giving it a second thought.
This is the type of love that every member of a church will have when truly brought together by the Spirit.
It is not a carnal love as God's ways are not man's ways.
---Frank on 7/30/11|
Perfect love is simply "mature love". To become mature in love it takes time and effort. It takes learning how to love a person when they don't love you. Another thing about perfect love is the kind of love for God that is firm and settled. This kind of love will cause a person to drawn nigh to God.
Perfection in love come from renewing the mind via the Word of God.(Romans 12:2)
---Rickey on 7/27/11|
Who can get through to a Christian filled with pride?...She only sees things HER way...I use scritpures and she still won't believe
---Donna5535 on 7/26/11
I believe your friend's problem is not belief, but faith.
Faith is the action based upon a belief. When we receive God's perfect love, we are able to live our life (act upon it) without fear. He has accepted us, will provide for us, will not abandon us, will not reject us, and will provide an inheritance for us after death. All we have to do is submit our will unto His.
When we continue to fear, we take back our will and the control of our lives and insist we have a right to be in pain, we have a right to be hurting, and we deserve to avenge wrongs done to us.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/27/11|
Donna5635 - Has your friend allowed the Holy Spirit to teach her the Bible? This is a good way to get rid of pride. The more we allow the Holy Spirit to teach us, the more we find out that we no NOTHING at all.
---Leslie on 7/26/11|
Donna5635 - The CD teaching I suggested may help, but also the Pride issue is there. Pride is also a sin and a demon spirit. Let her know that she needs to repent of her pride, and idolatry that is attached to it (because pride = idolatry in the fact that we think we are God and know better than God). The Bible also says that pride goes before the fall (Proverbs 16:18, 1 Timothy 3:6).
---Leslie on 7/26/11|
Donna5635 - Here is a resource for your friend to get rid of fear - The CD teaching by Mark Virkler "Prayers That Heal The Heart". There may be some curses or demons from her bloodline causing the fear. The Bible says that fear is a spirit (demonic) (2 Timothy 1:7).
---Leslie on 7/26/11|
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Leslie, yes she has. But she has spiritual pride because she thinks since she's been walking with the Lord for so long, that she told me "she knows EVERYTHING."
Who can get through to a Christian filled with pride? I can't. She's now yelling at me for telling her she was never healed of her deep hurts, wounds and insecurities from her past. She was beat by her ex-husband in the 1970's and raised her kids alone. They've been grown since 1994 and she still claims she's burnt out from raising her kids.
She only sees things one way and that's HER way, not God's way .I use scritpures and she still won't believe what is blocking her from receiving from the Lord.
---Donna5535 on 7/26/11|
Donna5635 - Has your friend repented of her sins and put her trust in Jesus Christ by believing and confessing He died, rose, and is Lord? If she has not done this, she is not a Christian. If she has done this, explain to her that fear is sin because it is the opposite of faith, and anything not done in faith is sin (Romans 14:23b). Tell her she needs to repent of these fears, and repent for not walking in faith.
---Leslie on 7/23/11|
We should not resent/fear The Lord's admonition. His loving correction when "HE" has decided that it is absolutely necessary to teach us the error of OUR way is similar to when our dad was teaching us how to grow up properly.
The Lord tells us that we must live the "law of liberty", so unless our activities are so serious a violation of His will, He might never do anything but laugh at our silly ways. It simply is impossible to both LOVE and FEAR Him at the same time. Our only attitude about Him should be LOVE ONLY. It was only THE BEGINNING of wisdom that was the FEAR of God, but now that we know Him, our love should become PERFECT and we should leave NO ROOM in us for the fear of Him (Mark 12:30, Isaiah 29:13).
---more_excellent_way on 7/23/11|
Hi Donna, I sent you a private message about this.
---Bruce5656 on 7/22/11|
Donna5535-- If you have known her for 32 years, you probably have a good idea is she really KNOWS Christ. If she doesn't that's where to start
Was she always fearful? Was she raised by a fearful parent, ("be careful..no you can't, you might get hurt..it could be dangerous...watch out..don't go there... stay away from that)? It may be harder for her than for some others. Also research now shows that fearfulness may have a genetic component.
Nothing is too hard for God. HE can make her "perfect" in love. I mention these things to encourage you to be patient with her. Keep giving her encouraging scripture. Pray with her.. maybe give her something for her mirror or fridge she can read daily for reassurance.
---Donna66 on 7/22/11|
Satan has no hold on a righteous person...because THEIR "spirit" (character/attitudes) is in alignment with that of the Almighty. Their "LIVING water" (tears of sorrow,...a loving person) are what God TRULY desires/wills of us. Satan can do NOTHING except TEMPT (He is being restrained right now by a "WHAT").
"and you know WHAT is restraining him right now" (2 Thessalonians 2:6).
1 John 5:8.....(our "water" strengthened by God's powerful spirit is the "WHAT").
"the Spirit, the water, and the blood, and these three agree".
"it is the Spirit Himself bearing witness with our spirit that
we are children of God" Romans 8:16.
---more_excellent_way on 7/23/11|
when we accept christ we are made perfect,washed clean by his blood,by his taking our punishment,opur place because God loved the world.it is Gods love that makes our spirit perfect,not our flesh. not one of us who are saved has perfect flesh,we are made perfect by Gods love,and forgiveness,never having to fear again,but most probably will,because of the flesh.
---tom2 on 7/23/11|
I agree with all of you. But she's been saved 32 years...how in the world is she in such fear? I can't seem to tell her fear brings torment and she is being tormented by fear and that God loves HER. Has she not experienced God's love? How can that be since she's been saved 32 years? I love her and we've been friends for 25 years but all she talks about is what she fears. And it's ALOT of stuff.
---Donna5535 on 7/22/11|
If she is a Christian, she can minister God's love and correction and encouragement to you. "My cup runs over," we have in Psalm 23:5. So, is she really a Christian? I would think God has at least corrected her, by now, and made her better, if not perfect. If so, she needs to grow more. But I suspect we have now cultural and copy-cat conversions of saying a prayer or gobbledygooking a few words of "tongues" and then we are "saved". Keep feeding her the word and your good example of this, "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3) And is she busy with caring about others, or just staying weak worrying only about herself and her favorite people?
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/22/11|
"how can she be made perfect in love?"
Donna5535, "If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love 'has been' perfected in us. "To eliminate fear, submit to, and abide in, "the love of God [that] has been poured out in our hearts". It is for us to know and believe "the love that God has for us." for "Herein is our love made perfect." If one opens ones mind to truly identify with and understand the love Father has for us, Loving comes easily and fear dissipates. His love was demonstrated "in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Tell her to "Fear not, the thy Lord God is with [her]."1Jo 4:1>Rom 5:5>1Jo 4:16,17>Rom.5:8>Jos 1:9
---Josef on 7/22/11|
The phrase "perfect love" refers to God's attitude of love towards the Believer. The closer and closer the Believer gets to recognising, acknowledging and accepting that "perfect love" of God, is the closer and closer she or he gets to living a life without fear.
The Bible says that when God sets us free, we are free indeed.
Well, free from what? Free from fear, doubt, guilt, shame, failure, anything and everything that prevent us from experiencing and enjoying the life without fear. The life that God intended for each of us.
Perfect love casts out fear.
Please, tell your friend to read and study Romans 5:8, 20, Deut. 31:6 and Isaiah 54:10 to see what God's attitude towards her/him is.
---Allan on 7/22/11|
Funny this should be posted since I was recently thinking on this. First, God is perfect love. It's not something to be obtained outside of Christ. As more of Christ is formed in us, so too is this perfect love. Likewise, fear diminishes. Some just goes as we spend time in Him. Other times, we need to lay it down (a particular area of fear). Fear is lacking in trust. We take a "step of faith" when we willingly lay down and act in trust (in the Lord) despite feelings of fear.
"how can she be made perfect in love?" Time spent in Him, in prayer, laying it all down...
---chria9396 on 7/22/11|
1 Cor 13 is a good benchmark for your friend to begin.
---paul on 7/21/11|
First know that fear is the opposite of faith, and the Bible says anything not done in faith is sin (Romans 14:23b). The Bible also says that faith and love go together (Galatians 5:6). If you want to know what love is, go to (1 Corinthians 13:4-8a, and 1 John 3:16-18). If you walk in the principles of love, then you will walk in faith (trust and obey God), and faith is the opposite of fear.
---Leslie on 7/21/11|