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Tithe With No Job

I haven't worked since May 2010. How am I supposed to tithe with no job? I feel like I am cheating God.

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//I was only hurting myself.// trish

do you really believe that?
---aka on 10/19/11

Jed, while you are correct on many points you made concerning benefits people get, and social security not meant to be given for other purposes, and also that a lot of patients are given bogus diognosis, you are still left with those who really are not able to work. It is not their fault the system is made to help them. It is the system that is wrong. We are responsible for what we do, to a certain point. And God already knows who is responsible and who is not. What you are doing is putting everyone in the same group just because others are fake does not mean everyone is. The system Jed is wrong. If most people found out how many holes there is, they too would get benefits for nothing, since most everyone pay's into the system.
---Mark_V. on 10/20/11

Jed, it would be difficult to have you as a friend. You are too cynical, judgmental and self-righteous. I hope you will soften over time. God bless you. :) on 10/19/11

Trish, you already said that and my response remains the same. Many people have traumatic childhoods and go on to live responsible productive lives. You alone are responsible for your own actions. If you are still blaming your poor choices on others or a bogus borderline personality disorder, than your sweet therapists didn't do a very good job did they? Since their job is to actually help you stop blaming others and accept responsibility so you can change your life. BTW, your therapists are sensitive to you because they are paid to be. Their paycheck depends on keeping people in the mental health system by convincing them they have a disorder that is the cause of all their bad behavior and choices.
---Jed on 10/19/11

Jed: My therapist never made excuses for my behavior, and always held me accountable. If you are a social worker, as you claim, you should know the childhood precursor of the various disorders, and what I described are typical for people with borderline personality disorder. As for the bipolar disorder, I have no control over the chemical imbalance, and when I was manic, I was only hurting myself. Obviously, you must not have been a very good social worker, because as I said, empathy is something most people who work in mental health have. You lack it.
---Trish on 10/19/11

A tithe is 10% of what you make - if you aren't making money, that would be 10% of 0 and 10% of 0 is 0 so God does not expect you to tithe if you don't have any currant assets to tithe on.
---wivv on 10/19/11

Jed, true for 75% i do agree with you that to blame the dog when you left the meat ungarded is bad psychology. as one modern headshrink said "our prisons are full with people who had bad parents. i myselfdidn't have a great time growing up, but look at me, im a succes in what i do. at one point i had to decide to rule my situations, and insteadn of ending up in drugs (like some of my cousins who had a far better childhood) Christ saved me, but for Christ to save us it is nesecary for us to call upon HIM. no shrink can do what Christ did. so my Christ and I are victorious
---andy3996 on 10/19/11

Andy, I do not know Trish personaly so I cannot not possibly know her whole story. But based soley upon what she has shared here, yes, I am one of those grew up far far worse that what she described. And after all that, i did not need thereapy to know right from wrong. My point however is not to compare who had it worse. My point is that everyone experiences pain, suffering, and trauma in their life but it is something we all have to deal with responsibly. We all need to take responsibility for our actions. Claiming a disorder or illness is a way of making excuses by saying you had no control over your own actions, which is a complete lie. People are where they are in life because of personal choices that they made.
---Jed on 10/19/11

Sorry Andy, my last comment was intended for alan, not you. My apologies.
---Jed on 10/19/11

Jed, biblically, yes i agree. 1Corinthians 10:13 sometimes we go through all kinds of temptations, the reason is for us to grow. and God gives us a solution.
James 1:12

i've allready shared my testimony on another post,
i ghot in a big mess financially once, so i said God'll understand. Stopping the tithe my mess became only bigger, until i repented two months later. when i repented i gave my tithe, the tithe i kept back and a fifth added because i had eaten the tithe Basically i gave 22.5% whilst in debt. God miraculously intervened and in less then 2 months all my debts where settled. that is the greatness of Gods prommise.
---andy3996 on 10/19/11

Jed ... "Most of us can recall similar stories of our childhood probably much worse than yours"

Ah Jed ... are you one of those "most"? And were your experiences "much worse" than Trish's?

I suppose then that your drunken father actually did kill your mother.
---alan8566_of_uk on 10/19/11

Jed: You have no clue what my therapist did and did not do. He kicked my butt up one side and down the other for ten years, but always had compassion when I needed to talk about the painful stuff. He never made excuses for my poor behavior and always held me accountable for when it was inappropriate. But, he had empathy, something which you seem to lack. Empathy is something most Christians should have. Because there but for the grace of God go I.
---Trish on 10/19/11

A woman wrote in telling Pat Robertson her family is struggling to pay the bills and the mortgage and asked why God hasnt answered her prayers for help. Robertson respsonse: she wasnt managing her money correctly and that she must keep tithing in order to receive a blessing from God.
---NurseRobert on 10/18/11

NurseRobert, do you disagree?
---Jed on 10/19/11

Pat Robertson knows his stuff. He's nobody's fool. on 10/19/11

A woman wrote in telling Pat Robertson her family is struggling to pay the bills and the mortgage and asked why God hasnt answered her prayers for help. Robertson respsonse: she wasnt managing her money correctly and that she must keep tithing in order to receive a blessing from God.
---NurseRobert on 10/18/11

Sorry Trish, as harsh as it may seem, only the truth can set you free. Those secular therapists who make excuses for their clients' poor behavior and encouraged them to blame others or a disorder for their situations do them no favors. Jesus never made excuses for sin either. He told them "go and sin no more". As I said, only when you accept the truth and responsibility for your actions can you change your actions.
---Jed on 10/18/11

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Your gross pay is money you earn from your employer. From this are deducted unemployment insurance, social security, medical insurance, and other deductions. What is left is net pay which appears on your paycheck. This may only be about 2/3 of your gross pay. Taxing or tithing on your gross pay would be unfair, since you never actually receive it. (Money you receive back from social security or unemployment insurance DOES get taxed - when you actually receive it.)

Your net pay is your gross income for tax purposes. From this are deducted personal exemptions, and either standard deductions or itemized deductions. After these are subtracted, what you are left with is your net income. You pay taxes based on your net income.
---StrongAxe on 10/17/11

Jed: Thanks to a very good psychologist, I have stopped being borderline with my behavior. It took ten years of intense psychotherapy, and some very strong mood stablizers. Thank God my secular therapist was more caring and sensitive than you, a Christian social worker appears to be.
---Trish on 10/17/11

We pay taxes to the government, on the net - ...Otherwise, we could sometimes have to pay more than we earned.//

That has happened before in the USA. They created a rule so that would not happen again. That is why on tax form it says if less than zero skip line XX. One story of a guy who took a second job for more money but got bumped up into a new tax bracket thus reducing his overall take home pay below the one job take home pay.
Define net - how much you put into the bank to spend how you want to.
Gross - the amount your salary or check says you will make in a year. The government uses this number to define how much to take from your check each pay cycle. Just for clarity.
---Scott1 on 10/17/11

Trish, so blame your parents then when you make irresponsible and self-centered choices because you grew up in an unhappy environment? Most of has can recall similar stories of our childhood probably much worse than yours. Everyone has a story. There is not one person alive that does not know what pain and suffering is so stop thinking that your so much different and less fortunate than everone else. Nothing will ever change for you until you stop blaming others for your actions and start blaming yourself.
---Jed on 10/17/11

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We pay taxes to the government, on the net - we reduce income by the expenses we incur in making it. Otherwise, we could sometimes have to pay more than we earned.

If a farmer had a bad year and had 200 lambs born, but 190 of them died before they were a year old, a tithe on the gross would be 20, when he only had 10 left, so even if he totally starved he would not fulfil his tithe.

Many evil governments starved their people by demanding taxes that were more than the people could pay. God does not want us to starve. He only asked 10% of food, etc. that was left over after all the natural forces incurred raising it (weather, beasts, illness, etc.). For us, unavoidable natural forces include rent, utility bills, etc.
---StrongAxe on 10/17/11

//The tithe was on the NET, not the GROSS.//

No that is why the tithe was on the firstborn or first harvest. Because you did not know if you were going to have another lamb, goat, etc and the firstborn usually had the best genes.

So if I create a lot of bills then I do not have to give a tithe. This does not make sense. Where is the sacrifice that God talks about. You can not serve two masters God or money. Where your heart is your treasure (money) will be also.

//Even if still relevant to today//

What about Jesus saying "Give to God what is God's and Caesar what is Caesar's"
---Scott1 on 10/17/11

Jed: Most borderline personality behaviors do not happen in a vacuum. Mine were the result of horrific childhood traumas, like watching my drunken father try to kill my mother throughout my childhood, as well as sexual abuse. These traumas went unresolved for decades, resulting in the borderline behaviors, and were debilitating and crippling at times.

Bipolar disorder is the result of a chemical imbalance, and the depression is frightening, and the manic episodes are self-destructive.
---Trish on 10/17/11

Trish, anyone alive today could get a mental illness diagnosis for something. There are so many diagnosis floating around out there that all of us are mentally ill if we want to be. "Borderline personality disorder" is a term that they use for folks that make very bad, impulsive decisions and behave selfishly and irresponsibly. They quite jobs on impulse and start fights over anything. This kind of behavior is not a mental illness, it's just plain bad behavior resulting from no discipline or consequences, and the persons refusal to take responsibility for any of their actions. This also can be said of most mental illness diagnoses.
---Jed on 10/17/11

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1) Under Old Testament law, people gave 10% (i.e. a tithe) of their increase to support the Levites who unlike the other tribes, had no land of their own. We have no Levites to support, so that law is not relevant now.

2) Even if it WERE still relevant, if your income is zero, a tithe (i.e. 10% of zero) is still zero.

3) If a farmer had 100 sheep, and 30 were born but 20 died, he now had 110, so his increase was 10, so his tithe was 1. The tithe was on the NET, not the GROSS. So if you receive some money and most of it goes to bills, you would tithe from what is left over.
---StrongAxe on 10/16/11

I have been paying into Social Security for over 38 years. I have yet to receive a penny in return. When I apply for social security I am denied and told I am not old enough and I am still capable of working..
---Rob on 10/14/11

Rod, that's very sad that's how this country rewards it's working people. Rest assured that your SS is being sucked up by some young 25 year olds with some bogus mental illness simply because they cant hold down a job due to acting like a jerk.
---Jed on 10/14/11

Jed: Borderline personality disorder is not a bogus diagnosis, and can be debilitating to some. Praise the Lord, I was able to work for many years with it. Unfortunately, my bipolar disorder symptoms, combined with chronic back problems combined to qualify me for Social Security Disability.
---Trish on 10/14/11

Gary that is in reference to the access like the high priest of OT to communicate with GOD directly not a tithe.
---Scott1 on 10/14/11

I never said it was a "reference" to a tithe.

But priests did not tithe. It doesn't make sense for a priest to tithe. Priests gave an offering FROM the tenth of the tithe they received.
---Gary on 10/14/11

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I have been paying into Social Security for over 38 years. I have yet to receive a penny in return.

When I apply for social security I am denied and told I am not old enough and I am still capable of working..
---Rob on 10/14/11

1 Peter 2:9 (KJV) But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Gary that is in reference to the access like the high priest of OT to communicate with GOD directly not a tithe.
---Scott1 on 10/14/11

Trish, Social Security was never intended to be welfare. It was designed basically as a retirement plan for people who have payed into it their whole lives. However, it has become a form of welfare when the majority of people receiving it have never paid into it. Having worked at a mental health and drug addiction agency with nearly 3,000 clients, I can confidently say that 85% of those on disability were still capable of working some job. And 75% of them were given completely bogus diagnosis like "borderline personality disorder" or "opositional defiance disorder" in order to receive disability. This notion that most people on disability are fully incapable of working a job is quite naive to say the least.
---Jed on 10/13/11

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
To try and tithe today is denying that you are a part of a Royal Priesthood.
---Gary on 10/12/11

Interesting concept on a precept. Having a look myself.
Some precepts per your verse.
Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Deuteronomy 14:2
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
---Trav on 10/13/11

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Gary IS CHRIST OUR HIGHPRIEST? therfore we should give ouR TITHE UNTO HIM AS DOES IS PRESCRIBED, i do not think there needs to be any discussion about this, if you believe He is then you give, if you believe he isn't then your exempted.

did you know that modern rabbi's also give their tithe as should a pastor give his tithe.
---andy3996 on 10/13/11


you are cheating god?

consider this: once you find a job will you give your hard earned money to pastors who would enrich themselves. copeland has his own PRIVATE JET PRIVATE airport multi million $$$ homes. does that really go to help the needy or are these greedy televangelist use the needy for profit?
so who is cheating god?
---mike on 10/13/11

Jed: Social Security Disability recipients go through a pretty rigorous evaluation. I speak from my personal experience. Social Security is NOT Welfare. It is from a different fund.

There are always going to be some that fall through the cracks, and get over the system. That is true in all cases. But, most are legitimate mental illness cases, like my nephew.

I did a social work internship at a facility for severely mentally ill addicts, and they legitimately needed the disability checks to live.

It's a shame you only saw people who got over the system.
---Trish on 10/13/11

Trish, I did not specify welfare cash assistance only. Welfare assistance can also come in the form of food stamps, housing assistance (HUD), Medicaid, etc. Mostly I was referring to the majority of SS Disability recipients which have never paid into it. Most are between the ages 20 and 40 who are receiving this income for a bogus mental health diagnosis. I have seen dissability checks about $2,500 per month, more than enough for a person or a family for that matter to live off of. Children these days can even receiving dissability checks. Having worked as a social worker, I have seen first hand the families that have used welfare and dissability as their primary or only income for generations.
---Jed on 10/12/11

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Gary, you forgot the levitical tithe, Nu 18:26 Ne 10:38
---andy3996 on 10/12/11

No, I didn't. In Numbers 18:26 we are told that the Levites were to receive the tithes, and the Levites were to tithe on the tithe and give it to the priests. The priests then gave a heave offering, not a tithe.

In Nehemiah 10:38 we learn that the Levites would take a tithe of the tithe to the Temple.

The priests DID NOT TITHE.

Once God chose Aaron and his sons to be the priests, they are no longer referred to as Levites in the scriptures.
---Gary on 10/12/11

Gary, you forgot the levitical tithe, Nu 18:26 Ne 10:38

the exemption of the priests from taxes was instituted by artarxerxes, and had nothing to do with th tithe

so being a royal priest still makes us tributary to Jesus the highpriest.
---andy3996 on 10/12/11

Rhonda, You have obviously been sold on the LIE that one must tithe today!
Show me a scripture that commands Christians to tithe (don't confuse it with giving alms)
---1st_cliff on 10/10/11

LOL I asked for proof it was abolished

I ask and ask and ask ...yet again instead of SHOWING me the verse that states Gods tithe was abolished another one insists to ask me to show you the scripture stating one must tithe

honestly that is just too funny

why not PRAY to GOD and ask HIM to open your eyes to HIS tithe ...if you can't find Scripture that supports your lying false ministers that the tithe is abolished then seek GOD not me - it is GODS WORD you reject
---Rhonda on 10/12/11

this proves Jesus did not abolish tithes
---Scott1 on 10/11/11

Read Hebrews 7:5,12,18. This proves that tithing was disannulled.

Nowhere does Hebrews 7 say that Melchizedek is Jesus.

1 Peter 2:9 (KJV) But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

1 - According to the scriptures, priests do not tithe.
2 - As priests, all born-again believers are equal. There is no better or lesser among us. God has not designated any born-again believers to collect His tithe.
3 - To try and tithe today is denying that you are a part of a Royal Priesthood.
---Gary on 10/12/11

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Government in the time of Malachi was a priestly government, the israelian government BEFORE the kingdoms (starting with Saul) was also a priestly government with a Judge to conduct... tithes where not only used for the poor but also to feed the jewish legislature
---andy3996 on 10/12/11

Jed: You are misinformed. The Cash Assistance that is available to the truly needy was changed during the Clinton Administration, and is only available for a five year, lifetime maximum, during which time the recipient must either be employed, part time, or learning job skills and then be working, again part time.

As for Social Security, I could not live on my Social Security check alone. Thank God I have a pension as well. And I worked hard, for many years, for both benefits, and because I am under the age of 65, I am not eligible for Medicare for another year, as I am on Disability. So, $728 a month goes to pay for COBRA, my medical benefits.
---Trish on 10/11/11

Andy, the Bible says to bring the tithes to the storeroom of the house of God so that the house of God will not be neglected (Nehemiah 10:36-40), not to the government. Even if you are correct that the tithes were intended to be given to the poor, that's not where most taxes go. Only a portion of taxes go to social programs, and only a very tiny portion of social programs actually go to the truly needy. Also, social programs in America are not merely a meager help to get over a slump. Most families on welfare have used it as their primary income for generations. Many welfare and SS checks are more than an actual paycheck from a job.
---Jed on 10/11/11

Read 7:4-8.
6 This man [Melchizedek], however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises. 7 And without doubt the lesser is blessed by the greater. 8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die [Levi], but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living [Melchizedek]. The chapter goes on to say Jesus is Melchizedek.

this proves Jesus did not abolish tithes
---Scott1 on 10/11/11

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Jed we call it "government assistance, why not not government salary?..

fact is the money received is a petty help for the person to overcome a difficult time. again NOT a salary.

the fact that the working people pay for this, is my point exactely it is a social aid designed to help the less fortunate and the needy. the bible specially designed the tithe as
a help to the poor, collected and administered by the Levites.
taxes today, is the equivallent of that system, and a person who receives is therefore not to give tithe upon an aid received.
PS. i'm a minister who should live on tithes, but i refuse to lie to ghet more.

---andy3996 on 10/11/11

Andy, I tithe on the gross and actually give offerings far above my tithe but that is irrelevent. You're reasoning would only make sense if the people who payed the tithe on their taxes were the same people who received the goverment assistance. But they are not. Most people receiving government assistance have never paid taxes or social security. So even if somone else already paid tithe on that money, the person receiving the money didn't, and so they should still pay their tithe on it because it is new income for them.
---Jed on 10/10/11

Jed it all depends

do you tithe on the net or the gros

it is your grosso that cover all the expenses of healthcare,social security pension etcetera

so if you tithe your grosso, the help received of the government you allready payed the tithe upon it, if you always payed tithes on the net incom then by all means continue.
---andy3996 on 10/10/11

Rhonda, You have obviously been sold on the LIE that one must tithe today!
Show me a scripture that commands Christians to tithe (don't confuse it with giving alms)
---1st_cliff on 10/10/11

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The tithe was for O.T. worship ONLY. Many believers INSIST on "tithing" and will never change (pointless to argue).

Yes it is pointless to ARGUE with Gods Holy Word yet many do

amusing how many worship and serve their lying false ministers who SOLD them on the LIE and insist the tithe was "an OT thing" yet still have not one scripture to affirm their LIE

argue away GODS tithe if you want to but don't be so foolish to SELL others on the same lie given to you by lying false ministers because someday you will be accountable to GOD for spreading the lie ...a lie is still a lie even if you have sold yourself on the idea it is true
---Rhonda on 10/10/11

We have people that try to find loopholes and reasons not to pay their tithe, or people saying that income from welfare, social security, and dissibility are tithe exempt, and then they wonder why they cant ever get ahead and continue to have to receive government assistance. Weather you think you have to tithe or not, just try giving to God because you want to and see what happens.
---Jed on 10/10/11

The tithe was for O.T. worship ONLY. Many believers INSIST on "tithing" and will never change (pointless to argue).

Regardless of the tither's willingness to make God responsible for their financial turmoil, God IS NOT SO UNJUST as to overlook all of the tither's 'self-effort works' (such as tithing). Neither will God overlook the love shown to EACH OTHER (the "saints"...worshippers are still MAN) instead of loving GOD ONLY.

Hebrews 6:10
"For God is not so unjust as to overlook your work and the love which you showed for his sake in serving the saints".

The apostate devotion is when you show reverence to 'MAN AND GOD' instead of 'GOD ONLY' (this includs TITHING/DONATING TO MAN).
---more_excellent_way on 10/10/11

//How do you "feel" like you are "cheating GOD" unless you are making unemployment INCOME and keeping it all.//

the unemployment income IS the modern equivallent of the tithe.
when a person was poor and received food of the tithes and the gleanings of the land, that person was no longer under law to give tithe. as a person who receives "social help" from the government does not need to tithe upon that. unemployment income IS NO income, its a social help from society, even department of taxes knows that, that's why the unemployded do not pay upon their unemployment income. why do some think God wants tithes upon alms?
---andy3996 on 10/10/11

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1st_cliff on 10/8/11
#1 #2 #3 #4
---michael_e on 10/10/11

God does not need our money. He wants us to tithe because we have a need to give. If you are already asking should I have to tithe if I don't have a job then your heart is already in the wrong place. God wants us to be a cheerful giver and to give the best of what we have. If you are looking for loopholes and a way out of tithing, then you need to pray and ask God to soften your heart.
---Jed on 10/9/11

Tracy how are you living? Who buys your food, personal care products, clothes?

I'll assume you are USING someones computer and electricity to be on the computer unless you are at the library all day?

As someone already stated 10% of ZERO income is still ZERO.

You can ONLY tithe on income.

How do you "feel" like you are "cheating GOD" unless you are making unemployment INCOME and keeping it all.
---Rhonda on 10/8/11

Your not cheating God, if you are not working..But if you want to make an offering to God, See how you can help in your church, or a local church.
---a_friend on 10/8/11

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#1 God does not need one penny of your tithe
#2 Who is authorized to receive anything on His behalf?
#3 The 11 tribes tithed to support the tribe of Levi ,who had no land!
#4 Today superstitious Christians tithe because they think God will frown on them if they don't...a church cash grab!
---1st_cliff on 10/8/11

A person can Tithe on the blessing that they receive from a family member or friend & etc. Meaning if someone bless you with $100.00 then you can take 10% and give towards your Tithe. Also, you can volunteer your time & talent in Ministry too. Stay Bless!!! I hope everything works out for you in your job search.
---kimbe7395 on 10/9/11

tracey are there other incom then the salary you los? maybe your farming or so? if not
no income no tithe. guilty feeling only comes in such a situation because you've been given tithe without faith and now you think You'll lose God's favour because you didn't pay HIM.
but we give a tithe uponn the blessing allready received. do not forget that and do not confuse the tithe with plant seed.
---andy3996 on 10/9/11

Tracey, Financial tithing can only be done with money. If you're not receiving income or any money at all, then, GOD does not expect Tithes. GOD does not ask you for something you do not have. Once you get back to making money, then HE will expect the Tithes and Offerings. But, until the money comes flowing back again, you can serve HIM in other ways. Pray that HE will lead you to another source of legit income. And, for now, PRAY that HE show you how you can use the other Gifts HE's given you.
---Gordon on 10/7/11

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Scott, our God is VERY DIFFERENT than everybody thinks.

We all 'ran away from home' as we grew up and learned bad habits, but only we who decided to have a relationship with God returned like the prodigal son. God's HIGHEST WILL is that we have JOY in our lives without causing harm/damage (He will glory in His children's HAPPINESS...let others come to Him and find their own happiness). Our duty is to feast on His bounty given to each of us.

Yes, we should each be a 'nice guy' TO OURSELVES, not a 'doormat' to others (be a "son of the most high" and be beholden TO NO MAN).

Luke 6:35 "for he is kind to ungrateful and selfish".
---more_excellent_way on 10/7/11

Yes Karen, you are absolutely correct that the word is spelled with a "D" (and you had every RIGHT not to overlook my mistake,...because I was VERY WRONG).

There are various uses of the word "steward" that can mean caretaker, servant, attendant, administrator, etc. ("steward of his house", Gen. 44:1).

There is NO scripture that says "Do not give grudgingly", but according to the unwritten law of human thought and common sense understanding, it follows that we should not give reluctantly/grudgingly (God reminds us how to think like a human being should).

2 Corin.9:7 "Each one must do as he has made up his mind, not reluctantly" (meaning DO NOT GIVE GRUDGINGLY).
---more_excellent_way on 10/7/11

Tithe is not a fixed amount contribution. It is dependent on your income(incl. wages, interests, dividends, bonuses, gifts etc). If you are earning very little now, it is still good that you contribute one tenth of the little into God's kingdom purse. But if you earn zero presently, God knows & HE is not expecting you to pay anything.
---Adetunji on 10/7/11

the only people who have increase are pastors & televangelist. look at the luxury car they are driving & the mansions they live in. if you don't have a job & give $100 will it become $10,000?
and that 'feeling' has been programmed & brainwashed by the church. malachi says if you don,t give you are robbing god.

malachi 1 says you priest offer blind, lame & diseased animals. that is robbing god too.
---mike on 10/6/11

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God doesn't need money. just serve God the best you can.He doesn't burden us more then what we can do.
---candice on 10/6/11


If you have no increase then you have nothing to tithe.
---Francis on 10/6/11

Posted by MoreExcellent Way
"You are NEVER to tithe if it interferes with being a good stewart."

Don't you mean steward? Please give us the scripture for this statement. How many people would use this comment to say they aren't tithing because they are being good stewards?
---KarenD on 10/6/11

If you feel you are robbing God it is probably because you have been taught that Malachi 3 applies to you.

Malachi 3:7 (KJV) Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ORDINANCES, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

Colossians 2:14 (KJV) Blotting out the handwriting of ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross,

Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us

Tithing ended at the cross per Hebrews 7:5,12,18.
---Gary on 10/6/11

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I will never on God's green earth understand where so much foolishness on christianity come from. Hello.......if you are not working, how can you tithe? Common sense. Please people don't become idiots because you are professing to be a christian. God does not leave his people...ignorant. Be discerning and filled with the spirit of God and you will know the truth for yourself. God alread knows you are not working, my friend. You cannot give something you do not have. And besides. Tithing is not mandatory, for today. It is voluntary so you are not cheating God out of anything. Relax and stop making your own life miserable because of untruths and ignorance. Educate yourself and be filled with the Holy Spirit.
---Robyn on 10/6/11

---more_excellent_way on 10/5/11

yes it is true God wants a cheerfull giver. But the opposite is NOT true. IF not cheerfull do not give. That is false statement.
---scott1 on 10/6/11

If I understand the Old Testament correctly, the only items that need to be tithed are agricultural products and livestock. So, rest easy! :) on 10/6/11

In the Old Testament you tithed on 10% of your crop. That means they tithed only on the increase they worked for by planting crops,they received crops off the seeds they planted. Even though most of us aren't farmers any longer we still tithe on our increase not our gross income. If you aren't working you have no increase,therefore you aren't doing anything wrong so you need not feel you are cheating God. The Bible says,NT,God loves a cheerful giver and how can anyone feel cheerful if they are stuggling to get by and tithe money they don't have. You could always tithe your time and volunteer in some way it costs you no money,to help others.
---Darlene_1 on 10/6/11

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You are NEVER to tithe if it interferes with being a good stewart.

Be a good stewart and take care of your family FIRST (the best that The Lord has enabled you to, they are your God-given ministry).

Taking care of your family includes your household bills. If you cannot give to a charity/ministry willingly, comfortably, enthusiastically, voluntarily, and CHEERFULLY, then The Lord's will is that you do not give anything at all.

DO NOT be a hypocrite and give ANYTHING (money or time/effort) GRUDGINGLY (only give willingly/cheerfully).
---more_excellent_way on 10/5/11

How much is a tithe (tenth) if there is no income?

10% of nothing is nothing.
---James_L on 10/6/11

10% of $0 is you guessed it $0 but if you have a unemployment check try tithing out of that. But since you have all of this time go volunteer at church. I did not work for a year and this helped keep my sanity. There is probably enough to keep you busy with cleaning or just running errands for somebody. Good luck on job search.
---scott1 on 10/6/11

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