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How To Grow Spiritually

How does one measure ones own spiritual growth? by religious experiences or simply more knowledge of God and understanding of His word?

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//Our spiritually should be measured to the extent that Jesus is truly present in our lives.
Mt 25 :33fAnd it should be added that our measure of our spiritual life would be reflected in how we treat our neighbor. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and yu clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me....Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.
---lee1538 on 2/6/12

Lord Jesus, I sin. Grant that I may never cease grieving because of it, never be content with myself, never think I can reach a point of perfection. Kill my envy, command my tongue, trample down self. Give me grace to be holy, kind, gentle, pure, peaceable, to live for Thee and not for self, to copy Thy words, acts, spirit, to be transformed into Thy likeness, to be consecrated wholly to Thee, to live entirely to Thy glory. Deliver me from attachment to things unclean, from wrong associations, from the predominance of evil passions, from the sugar of sin as well as its gap, that with self-loathing, deep contrition, earnest heart searching I may come and be delivered by Thee.
Protestant/puritan prayer
---Poppa_Bear on 2/6/12

Aka, you said to me.
"markv, sometimes i believe that you would argue directly with God about scripture."
My argument is for God, not against Him. You say Satan is the God of this world, when you take a passage literally you imply that Almighty God is only God of heaven, but not of earth. First, God never changes. He is the same, yesterday, today and forever. Second, God is Ruler of all things, "He upholdeth all things by the word of His power" (Heb. 1:3) Satan preserves nothing, upholdeth nothing. If he was God he would be able to do that. I answered for a reason, I don't want believers to think that God left His throne and satan is now on it. Before you judge me read what I say and for what reason.
---Mark_V. on 2/6/12

aka//anyway, we can measure our own spiritual growth if we want. that does not mean our measuring devices are calibrated well. in that day, many will be mistaken.
Yes, and there will be those who will tell Jesus that they obeyed the ten commandments, especially the Jewish Sabbath.

And that they obeyed all the Levitical dietary laws.

Our spiritually should be measured to the extent that Jesus is truly present in our lives.
---lee1538 on 2/4/12

Religious experiences profit you nothing. Pagans have religious experiences...
Neither does merely knowing the Bible. So did the Pharisees, and they still rejected Jesus...Satan knows God pretty well, and is still rebellious...Read what is written about the fruit of the Spirit.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/30/11

cluny speaks well. Gal 5.

anyway, we can measure our own spiritual growth if we want. that does not mean our measuring devices are calibrated well. in that day, many will be mistaken.
---aka on 2/3/12

john 15:5 I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

Since we can do nothing apart from abiding in Jesus, our spiritual growth is determined largely by abiding in Him.

There are those who would say we grow spiritaully by observing certain laws, however, the scripture repeatedly tells us that our works are what He does through us "for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure." Phil. 2:13

"Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord." 1 Cor. 1:31
---lee1538 on 1/28/12

""How does one measure ones own spiritual growth?"
One's spiritual growth can be measured in one's ability to love without dissimulation, or hypocrisy.
---Josef on 12/31/11

One key element to growth is to never look back at past experiences and wallow in them. Always use past blessings and growth to build your faith and strength in the Lord and move on. Look forward with expectation of what God is doing in the now and in the future. Live in the now prepare for and reach for the future. I don't measure religious experiences either. I measure it in learning wisdom from God. We learn knowledge by study and searching the Bible,we grow Spiritually by applying that knowledge and seeking God's leading. Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is supreme,therefore get wisdom. Though it costs you all you have get understanding. Wisdom is understanding of what is true,right,and lasting.
---Darlene_1 on 12/21/11

If ones sees the dirt that has clogged ones life fall away due to the cleansing of God's Spirit, then one can certainly believe one is growing in the faith.

Knowledge of Scripture will only give one an understanding of doctrine and give guidance to ones life as to what should be. But while the will to do everything right is present the ability to do so is not always there.
---lee1538 on 12/19/11

There is fruit as we grow, abiding in Him/His Word. Never stagnant.A LIVING relationship with Him. Also, 1JN 3:19-24"This is how we know that we BELONG TO THE TRUTH and how we set our hearts at rest in His presence: If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and He knows everything. Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from Him anything we ask, because we keep His commands and do what pleases Him. And this is His command: to believe in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as He commanded us. The one who keeps Gods commands lives in Him, and He in them. And this is how we know that He lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us."
---chria9396 on 12/19/11

The Webster dic. definds obedience as"A willingness to do what is ask". Obedience is more then keeping some morle code or law. IT is the evidence faith exist in us."By faith Abraham, when he was called to go to the place where he would receive his inheritance, "Obeyed" and went, although he didn't know where he was going.(Hebrews 11:8).MY level of faith will always be reflected in my level of Obedience. If Im willing to believe I'LL be willing to obey. A heart thats willing is a heart drivin by faith and obedience. Also, obedience is a result of the relationship we have with God, not the observing of religious requirements.
---Redeemed_By_His_Blood on 12/9/11

Redeemed_By_His_Blood //Your spiritual growth is measured in obedience. A muture believer obey the word of God more, but a babe is not able because his faith is weak(romans 14).Growth in Christ depends on your obeying him...
Unfortunately many do not realize obedience to Christ and His word, is quite different from compliance to some high ethical standard.

Adventists for instance, keep promoting obedience to the 10 commandments saying in effect one will merit eternal salvation by their works. This is reflected in their Investigative Judgment theory.

The righteous live by faith, not by those laws which were a mere shadow fulfilled by the ministry of Christ as is the Sabbath commandment. Hebrews 4

---lee1538 on 12/9/11

Your spiritual growth is measured in obedience.A muture believer obey the word of God more, but a babe is not able because his faith is weak(romans 14).Growth in Christ depends on your obeying him.Despite where u are remember it was "He" who choose you and he will finish the work "He" stsrted in you.
---Redeemed_By_His_Blood on 12/9/11

Lee, out of the two options you gave I would say, more knowledge of God and understanding His Word. The Holy Spirit at rebirth gives us faith in His Word. He guides us to the Truth, and He testifies of Christ to our hearts. And when we have a relationship with Him, we want to learn as much as we can concerning the Person we now love.
The greatest part of being a believer is that we can right now enjoy this spiritual love with Christ through prayer, through the holy communion, eternal Sabbath rest, and the full glory of the Holy Spirit. We benefit now on our High Priest, Prophet, and King because we are in union with Christ now.
---Mark_V. on 12/7/11

"Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith." (in 2 Corinthians 13:5) Our Apostle Paul says, "faith working through love," in Galatians 5:6. So, true Christian faith has to do with not just what we believe, but how we are loving > being pleasing first to our Father > 1 Peter 3:1-4, 2 Corinthians 2:14-15, 1 John 4:17 meaning we are more and more like Jesus. And Isaiah 55:11, I offer, means that God's word is unconditionally guaranteed to do all that He means with us. So, yes, compare ourselves with all the New Testament says to be and do. God will make His love meaning happen in us. Trust Him to do all He means > Philippians 2:13-16, 1 Peter 5:7. He is spiritual enough > 2 Corinthians 12:9. God bless you, too (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 12/2/11

I have had an amazing experience with the lord that has changed my life. It was a month ago that my life was spiraling out of control. I was drinking and having sexual relationship outside of my marriage. This was a continuing behavior for 3 years and I was lost. When the lord spoke to me my life has been transformed!
---Melissa on 12/1/11

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God does not seek/desire us to be unspiritual "sons of men", but His will is that we become "sons of God" (sons of the most high, Luke 6:35, Psalm 82:6) and that He be "Abba Father" to us (not "master"). In order to experience life to the fullest, God wants us to have full command of our faculties, etc. (conscience) and be "master of himself" (Titus 1:8).

Genesis 11:5 "And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built".

Deuteronomy 32:8
"when he separated the men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the of the sons of God".
---more_excellent_way on 12/1/11

The sabbath rest of Jesus was made/given so that the "sons of men" would be redeemed/rejoined to the creator after the final judgement, but many are not wise and don't sincerely seek God (they will be saved, but as through fire)....

1 Corinthians 3:15 "though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire". be a "wise" son of man and "draw near" with a LOVE RELATIONSHIP DEVOTION to God (seek His face), then you will also be able to enjoy the BETTER THINGS "that belong to" salvation (Hebrews 6:9).

"ALL FLESH shall see the salvation of God" (Luke 3:6).
...(scripture was written to ALL HUMANITY).
---more_excellent_way on 12/1/11

Lee, I believe if a person is truely saved, they should have a passion to learn about God. If he possesses this passion, God will open up his mind to learn all the person can cope with. God knows how much we can cope with. If a person doesn't have a passion to learn who God is, then that person should make his calling and election sure. Because if he doesn't he will stumble.
A good test is to ask themselves if they truely have a real love for Christ. For no one lost has a true love for Christ.
When a person falls in love with someone, they do all they can to learn about the other person, they want to talk all the time with the other person, they want to do everything they can to please the other person. The same holds true with Christ.
---Mark_V. on 12/1/11

Many believers have chosen to simply imitate the fruits of God's spirit, but if we move on to a "solid food" devotion with the word of truth, then we can be a "kind of FIRST fruits" (James 1:18).

The "doctrine of Christ" gospel ("Christ and Him crucified") has been accomplished (done and finalized). Our relationship with Jesus should no longer be based on what HAS BEEN DONE/finalized (the doctrine of Christ, "It is DONE"), but now we should have a RELATIONSHIP DEVOTION based on "the greatest of these"....

1 Corinthians 13:13
"the greatest of these is LOVE".

Hebrews 6:1
"Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ and go on".
---more_excellent_way on 12/1/11

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God's kingdom does not come by "religious experiences" (signs). The kingdom (peace/holiness) comes into your heart when His Spirit can witness to ours (because we have gone ahead to a "solid food" relationship and a "faith for faith", Romans 1:17).

"not coming with signs to be observed" (Luke 17:20).

The worshippers in the O.T. only had THE FATHER to be devoted to......

2 John 1:9 "BOTH The Father and the Son" (the Son brought us THE SPIRIT)...

"the Spirit had not yet been given...". (John 7:39).

"the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation" (Ephesians 1:13).

2 Timothy 2:15 "rightly handling the word of truth".
---more_excellent_way on 11/30/11

Religious experiences profit you nothing. Pagans have religious experiences.

Neither does merely knowing the Bible. So did the Pharisees, and they still rejected Jesus.

Satan knows God pretty well, and is still rebellious.

Read what is written about the fruit of the Spirit.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/30/11

Even when an unbeliever finally decides to know God, the FULL TRUTH ("depths of God") can only be understood if the ONLY attitude towards God is LOVE (not love AND FEAR, 1 John 4:18), but many believers choose to fear/resent God's reproach when/if God ever decides it necessary to teach us the error of our way. A person is not WHOLE until they are 'reconnected spiritually' with the creator (wholly.....if you've chosen to be "draw near" reconnected to Him).

Sadly, most believer's hearts are 'satisfied' by the BOOK/TEXT/"bible". Neither the word "bible" nor the word "christianity" are in scripture.

"Growing" SPIRITUALLY requires rejecting MAN'S KNOWLEDGE (mammon).
---more_excellent_way on 11/30/11

There are certain basic truths that a person must simply ACCEPT. Scripture has a section that was meant for the JEWS (O.T.) and a section meant for the "TRUE worshiper" (John 4:23) that no longer worships as the Jews did (their worship was done PHYSICALLY at the holy mountain and in the 'Jerusalem temples'), but our worship is to be done SPIRITUALLY in our hearts and minds (of TRUTH and "in" SPIRIT). The people in the towns that Jesus visited didn't want to just simply ACCEPT the truths they saw right before their very eyes, they wanted to get INTELLECTUAL APPROVAL first from "THE BOOK"/text and their priests, so Jesus said....

"Woe to you, Chora'zin! woe to you, Beth-sa'ida!...." (Luke 10:13).
---more_excellent_way on 11/30/11

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