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Can We Change The World

Do we have the power to change the world? Why or why not?

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There is forgiveness however bad your sins. If you come to Christ and truly repent. Your soul is cleansed. It tells us that.
Mary came to Jesus in the house of Simon and they whispered sinner. She knelt at his feet and wept and her tears washed the feet of Jesus. Repentance. She dried his feet with her hair. The acceptance to serve. She anointed his feet. The acknowledgement of him as the Messiah. Simon said basically why do you allow her to do this?
Jesus said Simon You asked me in but have offered no hospitality. When she has done all this. He understood she had offered up her soul.
'Your sins are forgiven.'
Knock and the door will be opened. Ask and it will be given. That is how our world changes.
---chris on 1/1/12

Redeemed_By_His_Blood, Of course we have the power to change the world, that is the whole purpose of sharing the gospel with others, so that they too can become changed and become Christianed just as we are.
---Eloy on 12/31/11

Eloy, you said,
"God would be evil if he condemned a soul without first allowing the soul to choose atonement over condemnation"
You imply that all the wicked who kill babies, murder women, and hate God this minute, still have a free will and if God punishes them for doing what they are doing, God would be evil for punishing them because they have free will? Free will gives them a right to murder.
No Eloy, they are going to be punished for what they have done.
They are already cursed. They did have a choice to kill or not kill, to hate God or love God. They were not willing to love God but willing to kill others. Their will is not free, it is filled with hate and anger, if it was free from sin, they would not kill.
---Mark_V. on 12/31/11

Eloy, don't you read what you write before posting? You say, Instead of righteousness, God judgment would be sin. Implying His actions are sinful. God is righteous, even His actions against sinful man are righteous.
You also said God cast His salvation out to each soul and you can grab hold in order to be pulled up out of the bondage of sinking sin or else push aside the salvation onto their own wits which results in bondage and perishing. On the other blog you just said, satan was destroying you and you reject Christ. Lost your first rebirth, but you did not sin. "free will" theology has you so confused. That you can come and go as you please and God has to listen to you, because somehow you feel God has no power over you.
---Mark_V. on 12/30/11

after a discussion with MarkV, i do not think choice and free will are the same.

but, anyway, it is kind of a useless debate.
---aka on 12/30/11

If youd take the time to see what Mark, is saying.
You would see it is not falsehood.

When has this world ever chosen God?
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.
He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

Mat_12:7, Mat_23:23!
Every good thing comes from God!
---TheSeg on 12/30/11

Yes to an extent.The problem is we can't change the heart of man.Only our Father in heaven can do that but we need to try.
---shirley on 12/30/11

Wivv, our light has not become dim. Our light is the same as it has always been, the light is the Spirit of Christ and He never becomes dim. Matt. 5:13-15 explains that very clear. Jesus had mostly in view pure salt, that cannot lose its flavor or effectiveness, but the salt that is common in the Dead Sea area is contaminated with gypsum and other minerals as has a flat taste. Such salt was good only for keeping footpaths free of vegetation. A godly life gives convincing testimony of the Saving power of God. It brings God glory (1 Peter 2:12). The amount of individuals that will be saved can never change, for it is written already. Only God knows how many they are.
---Mark_V. on 12/30/11

Markv, You post falsehood, all are given freewill to choose Christ or reject Christ, else God's judgment would be sin rather than perfect righteousness, as you falsely profess. God would be evil if he condemned a soul without first allowing the soul to choose atonement over condemnation. God casts his salvation out to each soul to grab hold of, in order to be pulled up out of the bondage of sinking sin onto damnation, and it is up to each drowning soul to grab hold of the Salvation in order to be saved, or else push aside the Salvation onto their own wits which results in bondage and perishing, and eternal damnation.
---Eloy on 12/30/11

"Yes", we, as Christians can change the world. When I was in a Bible collage in 1961, we had a speaker at our chapel service who said that if each Christian would lead just one person to the Lord each year, it would only take 7 years to evangelize the world. That didn't happen since it is now 2011 and a large portion of the world in not Christian. Maybe our "light" has become dim.
Matthew 5:13-16 (NASB77) "Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
---wivv on 12/29/11

"Do we have the power to change the world?"
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER is given unto me in heaven and in earth.Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen
All the power is His, and all is to His glory and praise. His will, will be done, and is in motion, 'we' cannot change a thing, all is His plan and purpose. If we are used by Him in any way, it is still of Him and not ourselves.
---chria9396 on 12/28/11

Eloy, God has given us the power to be able to complete exactly what God ordained from the foundation of the world. And what we do God already saw in advance. Whether we or someone else takes the gospel to someone God already sees will believe. Neither you nor I can change the future God has already seen. Everything is before Him complete and in the order He plan it. If the future was in question or uncertain to God, then He would not be God and would be learning as time goes by, but we know that He is Omniscient, knowing all things.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/11

Redeemed_By_His_Blood, Yes we have the power, Jesus says that he has given us ALL power over the enemy, and he Commands us to "Go you all into all the world and preach the glad tidings to all creatures, whom obeys and is baptized will be saved, but whom not obeys will be condemned. And these signs will follow them that believe, In my Name will they cast out demons, and will speak with new tongues, and will get rid of serpents and if took what lethal it will not harm them, they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover."
---Eloy on 12/28/11

Barb, you are correct. God has already told us what the future holds for all of us. When we bring the gospel to others, only the one's chosen from the foundation of the world will believe by faith, and that has already been written. How many they are, how they will believe, and what is in store for all of us is already written, unless we have the power to rewrite the future and change the will and purpose of God as Eloy claims. Man, in his humanity has always tried to undermind what God has foretold will be. Even the enemy thought he could change things, but even he is already ordain for his own permenant place.
---Mark_V. on 12/28/11

Barb, I believe the poster is refering to the people in the world. And we indeed can change the world, that is change the people in the world, by sharing the gospel with them, one person at a time. How changed for the better would this world be if every Christian informed the nonChristians about the living Christ, which living Christ can give the nonChristian a brand new Christian life.
---Eloy on 12/26/11

We can not change the world. Jesus said that his kingdom was not of this world John 18:36. We should be laying up our treasures in Heaven and looking forward to living in the perfect city, the New Jerusalem. God has foretold the future and it cannot be changed.
---barb on 12/25/11

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I heard two comments that I liked a lot. First:
".. God has already told us what is going to happen to the world and all lost in this world."
That is so true, nothing can change what God has planned. No amount of free will can change the determined will of God.
"Everything is done by His Spirit, the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit"
The work of salvation is of God. Only He can bring faith in Christ to a lost soul.
---Mark_V. on 12/23/11

Eloy, great story.
If only God had shown the boy the way, maybe he could have saved all the starfish.
But, than who would believe the story. I remember another story about a boy on a beach.
Try to put the ocean in a hole in the sand. Impossible!

All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard, how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised.
And to the poor the gospel is preached!
---TheSeg on 12/20/11

Yes, I recall a true story: a small boy was casting star fish into the ocean one-by one that have washed up by the tide onto the beach. Another boy came to him and said, "There must be hundreds of dying star fish here, and you will not be able to save them all, so why would you do this?" The small boy answered, "Maybe so, but it matters to this one", and he knelt down and picked up a star fish and cast it into the water..."And it matters to this one", and he knelt down and picked up another one and cast it likewise into the water. So the boy understood, and he also joined in to double up on saving the star fish. So never think that your witness to others does not change the world, because it does.
---Eloy on 12/19/11

No we don't have the power to change the world, anymore than Noah has any power to stop the flood.. God has already told us what is going to happen to the world and all lost in this world.

We do have the power to preach the Gospel of salvation to the lost and warn people to flee the wrath of God that is to come. The only way you can flee God's wrath to come is to be In Christ...just like Noah was IN THE ARK.

Receive Jesus Christ as your SAVIOR, and you will be saved from God's wrath to come.
---kathr4453 on 12/19/11

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Do we have the power to change the world?
I would say, yes. You must!
I believe God had given us, this power.

But before you go changing anything, I want you to know.
It was because God made the world this way, that I came to ask him, why?
It seemed like he is saying, it was because you wanted the knowledge of good and evil.

I can say its because God made everything this way.
That good can look upon evil and not be affected.
But true evil cannot see good, nor can it, understand it.
It has absolutely no idea what good is, even when it is right in front of its face.

So, I wouldnt change a thing, here!
God bless!
---TheSeg on 12/18/11

I think that we should focus on not letting this world change us as much as it does. We can definitely let our light shine, we are called to, and how wonderful it is when someone shines their light on us. How many people are starving for a little genuine kindness? Remember though, Be kind to all, but intimate with few. I wrote that quote down from some ware in my journals and it can go a long way in keeping the balance of being kind.
In His loving grip
---poppa_Bear on 12/13/11

\\This is how we change the world. One heart at a time.\\

The only heart you can change is your own.

And not even THAT can you do alone.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/13/11

no you cannot change "the world", but you can change someone's world
---Scott1 on 12/9/11

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By the world I meant its people. Often times we refer to the world without including ourselves."For god so loved the world He gave his only begotten son". This means that we"the people"are the world which Christ died to save.If we refuse to admit we have the power to change the world,we fail to embrace the true "Christ".For He commanded us to go into the world preach the Gospel and make disciples. This is how we change the world. One heart at a time. "JUST BELIEVE"
---Redeemed_By_His_Blood on 12/9/11

\\ I'm more convinced that GOD is most interested in saving souls from Eternal Damnation than making this world a "batter place to live".\\

I will agree with that statement as far as it goes.

However, to the point that you morally and spiritually change yourself with God's help, to that point you have changed and therefore improved the world.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/9/11

Well, it depends on what you mean by "change the world". I'm more convinced that GOD is most interested in saving souls from Eternal Damnation than making this world a "batter place to live". He's got HIS own Plans to set up His own Kingdom on Earth when HIS Son returns in the near future. We, the true Church, are to be a holy salt and light to the World. But, "change" it?
---Gordon on 12/9/11

No we don't but the Holy Spirit who works within us does.

It is HE who has the Power to work within us, flow out of us and into others lives.

He guides us into all truth.

The bible says, "Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit says the Lord" this mountain shall be removed.

Everything is done by His Spirit, the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit.
---anon on 12/9/11

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