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Women With Purity Issues

Several churches in my state, Minnesota, are hosting "Every Man's Battle For Purity" events. Don't Women have Purity issues just like Men do? You know, we're ALL human.

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Hello,Family let me thankyou Darlene1 /post of 2/12/12 really blessed me! Loss of sight 'now trouble right eye.ben so confused 'n sure made me happy what you said it was ~purity blog..
God uses Christianet many ways! Love of Jesus!
---ELENA on 3/13/12

Sue, I'm sorry for most of us going away from the topic. It happens so many times. It's sometimes done on purpose, and other times its not. When Eloy doesn't like someones answer, he condemns them so everyone then leaves the topic and turn around and responds to his remarks to others.

Concerning the purity events, what I believe they are, are for how man should keep themselves not pure, because no one can, but how to be a better husband, brother, and son in life. Women also need to have them. Nothing wrong in teaching man how to conduct himself as a child of God.
---Mark_V. on 2/10/12

\\Sag, Christians whom love the Lord, live to please the Lord, and part of this living is through fasting and prayer.\\

And then there's Eloy.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/9/12

Sag, Christians whom love the Lord, live to please the Lord, and part of this living is through fasting and prayer. When we fast we deny ourselves the world and separate ourselves from it, and in the place thereof we cleave to the Lord and drink from his living water. "He must increase, and we must decrease." When we live in the Holy Spirit, then there is no room for the world and worldliness and sin. That is one reason why Satan tries to get people involved in everything but the Lord, for he knows that when you are spending time with Jesus you are not spending time with the world and its impurities. So if he can get you away from holy Christ, then he has a chance to get you dirty and defiled in the world.
---Eloy on 2/7/12

Peter, I will not attempt to communicate with Eloy in private because he has accused me of demon possession, and says I am an unbeliever. I am neither, and will not take such accusations lightly. I also will not stop rebuking Eloy when he spreads such lies about me, which is a violation of one of the 10 Commandments, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."
---Trish on 2/7/12


When you make uncorroborated (and often untrue) statements, I just ask you to provide two or three witnesses to corroborate your claims - just as the Bible requires in many places.

If that is blasphemy against you, you're calling the Bible blasphemy. Do you really intend to do that?

Why don't you just do what the Bible requires, and provide 1-2 other authorities that that say what you do?
---StrongAxe on 2/7/12

Hello I'm new to the whole blog thing. I was surprised to see Men arguing over words that had absoultly nothing to do with the blog topic, which I thought was concerning "Issues of purity for women" I'm sorry for my confussion.
---sue589634 on 2/7/12

\\if an offensive person speaks blasphemies to me then I use my freedom to kindly ask them to either not speak to me with their death or else do not speak to me at all. \\

Then I will use my freedom to say to youm: Follow yourm own advice, because nobody here wants to hear yourm blasphemies that youm speak to us from yourm death.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/7/12


If Eloy doesn't want to speak with me here, he certainly won't do so via email.

He frequently makes assertions publicly, and claims he is right and anyone disagreeing with him is blaspheming.

Unfortunately, many things he says are incorrect. I merely ask that the testimony be legitimized, as the Bible frequently requires, by two or three witnesses (i.e. that he supply at least one other authority that agrees with him).

Yet whenever I make this request, he refuses to do provide any corroboration, and instead accuses me of blaspheming him, of being unsaved, of dissing the gospel, etc.

Without such challenges, erroneous comments would be allowed to stand, and others might believe them uncritically.
---StrongAxe on 2/6/12

Peter, Thank you kindly for your suggestion, but I do not entertain antagonists.
---Eloy on 2/6/12

Eloy (and Trish and StrongAxe): I would suggest that you exchange emails or something like that and discuss your areas of disagreements in a place where you can explain in a more personal way what the way you find the other person's posting to be a problem.

I have found this to be more effective, and in many cases (where I believed there was no way to agree) it has allowed me and the other person to finally agree
---Peter on 2/5/12


Since you accuse Trish of not being Christian "because she posts antiChristian words", please give evidence for your accusation by pointing out just WHICH words those are. I didn't notice any.

Otherwise, you bring an accusation with no witnesses, and giving false witness is a VERY serious matter. Also accusing her of being demon-possessed is even MORE serious - the Pharisees said that to Jesus, and he said that while one could be forgiven of many sins, accusing one working through the spirit of working through demons (i.e. accusing the Holy Spirit of being a demon) is not forgivable.
---StrongAxe on 2/5/12

trish, you are deceived to post that you are a born-again Christian, since your words that you post about a born-again Christian are clearly antiChristian words. Satan feignedly lip-serves Christ also, calling him Lord, but his heart is cold and stony and he clearly manifests zero love for Christ and his Christians, likewise as you show that you also are the enemy of the cross and not any of my family of God. You really need to repent and get truly saved, then your words will be Christianed and not antiChristianed.
---Eloy on 2/5/12

Stongaxe, you explained that very well to Eloy. He wants to speak, but doesn't want anyone to disagree with him. He wants to be left alone but he insist to be here with us. He demands obedience as if he is God. Sometimes I'm shock on what he says, but people like Eloy, everyone needs to be aware of. I have witnessed no one like him. I read about other cult members fanatics but never witnessed one. It's funny but they let him post not only blaspheme against Christ, but his aweful responses to others. He could have been a good brother, but I'm not sure he is a brother in Christ. No evidence of it.
---Mark_V. on 2/5/12

Eloy: I am a saved, born again, washed in the blood believer in the life saving work of Christ on the cross. It is you that need correction.

Also, as StrongAxe has pointed out, I am free to address you, and will continue to address you when you speak in error, so don't bother telling me not to speak to you. Stop posting the lies of the devil, and I will stop addressing you.
---Trish on 2/5/12

trish, Again I correct you, you need deliverance from the puny demon that possesses you. trish, do not address me until that time that you are ready to accept my words.
---Eloy on 2/5/12

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There is a difference between "going out in public" and "speaking in public". If you walk around outdoors and mind your own business, you can espect to be left alone. But if you go into a square and start preaching or some other kind of public speaking, those to whom you speak have a right to respond to you.

In a similar way, you can read these forums in privacy and in peace. But once you start posting here, anyone who reads these forums has a right to respond to you. Furthermore, when you post error, any Christians who love the truth are duty-bound to correct your errors, both for your own sake, and for the sake of anyone else who may read them and think they are the truth.
---StrongAxe on 2/5/12

Eloy, I worked with a lot of mentally ill patients in my short social work career, but none like you. Your delusions of grandeur have you believing that you are sinless, and that speaking against you is blasphemy. There was only one sinless human, Christ the Lord. The rest of us, including you, commit sin. You do it most of the time you post on Christianet. Plus, talking to or about you is not blasphemy, because you are not God. Scripture teaches that we are to admonish one another, and you are in desperate need of admonition.

Plus, you need some serious psychiatric and psychological help to help you deal with your delusions. Spiritually, you are believing the lies of the devil. Emotionally, you are out of touch with reality.
---Trish9863 on 2/4/12

Strongax, you are in error. I go out into the public daily, and if an offensive person speaks blasphemies to me then I use my freedom to kindly ask them to either not speak to me with their death or else do not speak to me at all. "Either clean up your talk, or else depart from my personal space in this public place." I not only expect, but I demand this right to maintain MY clean personal space, now if you continue to choose to remain filthy and disrepectful and disregard my requesyt, then do it but do it away from and without me, because I will have none of it: potty mouth goes nto potty, and good mouth goes into goodness.
---Eloy on 2/4/12

Strongax, you are in error. I go out into the public daily, and if an offensive person speaks blasphemies to me then I use my freedom to kindly ask them to either not speak to me with their death or else do not speak to me at all. "Either clean up your talk, or else depart from my personal space in this public place." I not only expect, but I demand this right to maintain MY clean personal space, now if you continue to choose to remain filthy and disrepectful and disregard my request, then do it but do it away from and without me, because I will have none of it: potty mouth goes into potty, and good mouth goes into goodness.
---Eloy on 2/4/12

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dan, If my words are terrible to you, that is because they are cutting through the carnality of your sin. You need to Repent and get saved. And the reason that "you" are misjudging my righteous judgment to be a sin is because your heart and mind are still not regenerated, and it is the selfsame reason that sinners blasphemed Jesus misnaming him Satan for his manifested good works from God, and stripped him and beat him and spit on him and slain him upon the tree, and then these evil sinners tried to justify themselves also and said that Innocent Jesus was a sinner rather than righteous and holy and that they themselves were of God. But their works and their tongues proved that they were Not godly but pure antiGod and antiChrist.
---Eloy on 2/3/12

a god can be your tv, your money or anything you worship above the living God. even your automobile, clothes, shoes whatever you let come between you and God.
even your boat and fishing on sundays when we need to worship God.
---shira4368 on 2/3/12


"god" means "being of power", and sometimes an image. Deuteronomy 7:25 mentions "graven images of their gods", distinguishing the image from the being it represents.

Psalm 97:7 refers to beings that can choose to act:
"... worship him, all ye gods."

Psalm 82:6-7 refers to living mortals:
"I have said, Ye are gods, and all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes"

Quoted in John 10:34-35
"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken
---StrongAxe on 2/3/12

Poppa Bear,thank you for your kind words to me. Yes you are right,women played an active role in the Bible,good point,I didn't think of that. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 2/3/12

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eloy, my definition of someone, a person as a god is you. you speak very terrible things to so many, as if you are god and have no sin in you, but all we see is sin.
---Dan on 2/3/12


Anything posted to a public forum like this addresses everyone. You can't post something for everyone to see, then expect those who don't like it to just not look. If you did, you would do the same and just ignore things YOU don't like.

So whenever you post anything to everyone (which includes ME), I have a right to comment, especially:
1) if I agree with you
2) if what you post is unclear, and I need clarification as to what you meant
3) if you make an unusual claim, and I need proof (2-3 witnesses as the BIBLE ITSELF requires)
4) if you say something just plain wrong - in which case DUTY REQUIRES ME to challenge it.

If you don't like people replying to your posts, you shouldn't post in public forums.
---StrongAxe on 2/3/12

dan, I have a perfectly sound mind from Jesus. But what is your definition of "a god"? My Biblical understanding of "a god" is a carved or graven idol, like a manmade statue.
---Eloy on 2/2/12

Wize and loving words Darlene. Too much testostarone around here I guess, lol. After all, it was the women who supported our Lord, so they knew a little something about being loving through more than big religious words.
In His loving grip
---Poppa_Bear on 2/2/12

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People,male and female talk about the things that hurt them most. It is a way to vent,let off the pain,which goes with the problems in an unhappy relationship. Not all people know how to talk "properly" when they are going through terrible things in their lives. Even Christians can be overcome by the constant hurt and need someone to listen in order to get relief from their trauma. For them its the only thing which keeps them sane. Do they pray,usually a lot,but when bombbarded with constant negative hurtful words and living in disappointment they loose a little hope every day. We shouldn't judge them but comfort them,pray with them,and try to lead them into a more positive way of dealing with so much pain.
---Darlene_1 on 2/2/12

Strongax, a person needs to be inSpirited to know the mind of God. And Scripture must be kept in context to obtain the correct meaning, this is contextual criticism: know whom is the one speaking and know who the subject is, whom is being addressed. I usually suggest to people to read at least 5 verses before and 5 verses after the particular verse being highlighted in order to have the right context. Thirdly, why are you addressing me, "Arbitrarily"? when I asked you "Arbitrarily" to not address me "Arbitrarily" until that time that you are "Seriously" ready to receive the truth that I post. Jesus did Not say, Judge not, but rather, "Judge righteous judgment." Jn.7:24.
---Eloy on 2/2/12


It seems like this blog has become like the "Women's Gossip Groups" that I frequently see, and hear, at: Church, Restaurants, etc.

I've confronted some women about their Gossip and how it's actually poisonous. Not clean, social, small talk.

Would you want to be drinking poison?

If a Brother, or Sister, is a bit incorrect in their views, talk, blog postings, etc. I find that a short, simple, correction is all it takes. With supporting Bible verses.

---Sag on 2/2/12

Sag, yes there are impure and ungodly women.
---Eloy on 2/2/12

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eloy, are you bipolar or do you have split personalities? you answer kindly and suddenly you turn on everyone on a dime. you must think in your mind you are a god. Do you think you are a god?
---Dan on 2/2/12


It's curious that you translate the same Greek word as "judge" sometimes and "misjudge" at other times. What criteria do you use to arbitrarily use one here, and the other one there?

This is like the Jehovah's Witness artifice, in the New World Translation, as translating one word as "worship" whenever it refers to God, but "do obeisance to" whenever it to anyone else (including Jesus, since they don't consider him God).
---StrongAxe on 2/1/12

To all the dissers of us holy saints, it is prophesied: "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. But evil persons and imposters will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. Seeing a righteous thing with God to repay tribulation to them that trouble you, and on them will be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power."
---Eloy on 2/1/12

poppaBear, "Misjudge not, that you all be not misjudged. For with what judgment you all judge, you all be judged. And with what measure you all measure, it will be measured again to you. Judge righteous judgment. This thereupon know, that in final days the people will be mockers, desecrating speakers, unholy, slanderers, not lovers of good, stubborn, puffed up, pleasure-lovers rather than God-lovers: and of these turn away from. Blessed be you all when that malign you, and will persecute and say all evil word against you, lying falsely, on account of me. Rejoice and raise high, that the bonus plenteous yours in heaven: for so they persecuted the prophets, them before you."
---Eloy on 2/1/12

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You are right that the wheat is not the tare. However, both wheat and tares grow up together. It is not our job to separate them now. That will happen at the Final Judgment. For now, we must be content that anything and anyone we deal with are a mixture of wheat and tares together, and act accordingly (neither trusting them completely on their own merits, nor condemning them completely either).
---StrongAxe on 2/1/12

Eloy, Wisdom is justified by her children. Finally brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praise worthy, think about such things. Rebuke a wise man and he will love you, instruct a wise man and he will be wiser still: teach a wise man and he will add to his learning. Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes, there is more hope for a fool than him.
These are my last words on this, Starting a quarrel is like breaching a dam, so drop the matter before a dispute breaks out. 7x70, love peace and hair grease
---Poppa_Bear on 2/1/12

\\poppaBear, I do not preach opinions,\\

That's exactly what youm give--opinions.

And you know what people say about opinions.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/1/12

poppaBear, I do not preach opinions, but truth. And you are free to post any thing that you desire: but know this, if the things you post are NonChrist-like I will counter it. I may not be liked by the carnal-minded whom think anything goes, but I care not whether I am not their favorite poster. I lift up the standard and post the raw and uncompromized, unapologetic, and unadulterated gospel. And if a sinner tries to play me or blasphemes the truth, then they will be unsuccessful.
---Eloy on 1/31/12

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why would anyone read a man made book. read proverbs, it deals with impurity for everyone. It even tells us how to raise our children. Very good roadmap for life.
---shira4368 on 1/31/12

Bill willa,

So your belief is that you can just ignore the Old Testament?
---atheist on 1/31/12

Thanks for setting me strait Eloy. Perhaps I should run all my posts past you first and get your thumbs up, smile. You are definitely entitled to your opinion. Thanks for the words of encouragement.
---Poppa_Bear on 1/31/12

\\Read the Bible, not manmade books which publish NonChristian doctrines\\

Among things you don't read that are man-made are Eloy's postings.

Glory to Jesus Chris!
---Cluny on 1/31/12

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Read the Bible, not manmade books which publish NonChristian doctrines, for not every man has a battle with immorality. Sinners commonly and wrongly group all souls together, namely, the sinner's soul and the saint's soul, but the saint is not the sinner and neither is the sinner the saint, the wheat is not the tare and neither is the tare the wheat, the sheep is not the goat and neither is the goat the sheep. Therefore the NonChristian book is better titled, Every Sinner man's battle, rather than every man's battle.
---Eloy on 1/31/12

..Every Mans Battle.. is a powerful book for all men IMO and it deals with sexual purity. A good book for ladies that I believe indirectly and in some way directly touches on purity and identity issues for women is, ..Lies Women Believe and the Truth that Sets Them Free.. I think that at some point in our lives we can all use some reinforcing wisdom to help in the time of temptation, Take heed when you stand less you fall. The word, prayer and fellowship with people who love you enough to hold you accountable are key as well.
---Poppa_Bear on 1/31/12

Women do have purity issues, just as men do.

I do believe that it is best if such workshops and books be gender specific, as these topics can be embarrassing to discuss in mixed company.

---Trish on 1/30/12

These "purity issues", and the painful consequences, are clearly a problem in our government. In the political party of Family Values. In Congress and the Minnesota legislature too. And I would assume in other areas of people's lives.

I've talked with other Christians who think that: Affairs, Soap Operas, Sarcasm, Gossip, etc, are harmless. Not! All impure garbage.

I'm baffled, or confused, that many churches are often silent about things here.
---Sag on 1/30/12

Sag, not everyone has purity issues, only the impure whom choose inpurity have purity issues. God is clear in his Commandment, "Be pure, Be perfect, Be righteous, Be good, and bear good fruit, Be obedient, Sin not, Be clean, Lie not, Bless, and curse not, and Be holy, for I the Lord your God am holy." And God would not give anyone a command to obey, if the command he commanded is not possible to fulfill, therefore no person has any excuse for disobedience and the dissers are rightly judged as derserving of his wrath and eternal damnation for their willful unholiness.
---Eloy on 1/30/12

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Women do have purity issues, just as men do. There are books addressed specifically to women on that topic, just as there are for men.

I do believe that it is best if such workshops and books be gender specific, as these topics can be embarrassing to discuss in mixed company.
---Trish on 1/30/12

Maybe if unmarried men will win the battle for chastity, women won't feel pressured to give in, and we'll see fewer babies born out of wedlock.

Too often and for too long, the burden has been put on women to say, "No."

athiest, when did you last see a woman stoned for adultery in a Christian nation, or one predominantly of Christians? I'm not taking about mahometans here.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/30/12

the whole of humanity is impure, there is not one of us able to enter his grace other than through HIS love and forgiveness.
---chris on 1/30/12

\\All antiChrist men and children and women are impure, and are in need of being born-again from Christ.
---Eloy on 1/29/12\\

How many times, Eloy?

Yourm first time didn't seem to take, according to yourm own words.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/30/12

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Actually, atheist . . . in case you are planning to start an Old Testament church >

If a man forces another man's fiance, only the man gets stoned if she cried out for rescue (Deuteronomy 22:25-27), "for just as when a man rises against his neighbor and kills him, even so is this matter." So, raping another man's fiance is considered the same as murder one.

And if a lady lies about being a virgin, in order to fool a guy into marrying her . . . this is a death penalty offense by stoning > Deuteronomy 22:13-21. I can see why > betraying trust is hating a person, and hate is murder.

But Jesus died in our place so these penalties can be cancelled out and we can become loving people no longer guilty of hate crimes.
---Bill_willa6989 on 1/30/12

All antiChrist men and children and women are impure, and are in need of being born-again from Christ.
---Eloy on 1/29/12

Sag, good point.
---John.usa on 1/29/12

I thought only impure women were to be stoned to death?
---atheist on 1/29/12

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