What Do Atheists Believe
Atheist, Even though over 3,000 detailed prophecies have come to pass in the precise details as written, there are still detailed prophecies in the Bible that have not yet been fulfilled. The great apostacy so that the world becomes more wicked than in Noah's day and Sodom and Amorah's day, that a world leader, the AntiChrist will be permitted to office for a 3 1/2 year term, that God will consume the whole world by fire, so that the world is one complete ball of fire, but the born-again Christian will be preserved from the fire as Noah and his family were preserved from the flood. After the earth is purged God will make a new heavens and a new earth wherein dwells only righteousness, and sin will not rise up a second time.
---Eloy on 3/8/12|
In a book assembled, re-written, translated, re-translated, "prophecies" and made and then "fulfilled". That is not a hard trick.
A prophesy would be about 2000 years from now men, carried by a device called Apollo will set foot on the moon, and then return alive. The will come from a country called the United States.
A plot that successfully predicts its own outcome, is hardly odd or noteworthy.
Or E=MC^2 would be an astonishing fact, proceeded by Newton's Law of Gravity---those would be scientific expressions beyond their time.
Doesn't it seem odd that nothing in the book goes beyond what a bunch of goatherders could imagine given the world they lived in.
---atheist on 3/7/12|
Atheist, My pleasure. Here are 2 verses in the first three chapters of Genesis which details 4 prophecies fulfilled:
Gen.2:17, prophecy of eating forbidden fruit, of dying-
Fulfilled: Gen.3:6, 5:5, Ps.90:4, II Pt.3:8.
Gen.3:15, prophecy of seed of woman treads satans head, of satan strikes his heel-
Fulfilled: Is.9:6, Ps.22:16, Zech.12:10, Lk.24:39,40, Jn.19:37, Rv.11:15.
---Eloy on 3/7/12|
So you will use inference when needed to argue your case?
But your inference gives us little, "Then a supernatural thing occurred." So what?
---atheist on 3/7/12|
1stCliff, if speaking the Truth and exposing the false teaching you claim to come in the name of God is rude to you, maybe you should read the account between Christ and the Jews in John 8. What I say is nothing even close to the discourse Christ had with the children of the devil.
---christan on 3/7/12|
Christian, You are no different than the other rude fundamentalists,
Let's get one thing straight, Jesus is "the Son of God" attested to multiple times in the bible.
Nowhere does it say Jesus is Almighty God! God is one Deut.6.4 not 2 not 3 but One!
At what point in the 4,000 year history OT, did God explain He was more than one?
This is because trinity, came about via paganism,after Christ ascended!
---1st_cliff on 3/7/12|
Mark V, Let's say you had an accident and landed in hospital. You relative visits you and I ask "How's Mark ?" and they say "he seems to be in good spirits"
What does that mean , exactly?
---1st_cliff on 3/7/12|
Atheist what has happened in the distant past cannot be proved. Therefore we can only build a case upon evidence, and evidence is not proof. The past is also available to us via historical records and the Bible is an excellent record. However you believe God does not exist and all we see around us is the result of billions of years of naturalistic random processes. You cannot prove this nor does the available evidence fit with your story. And there is no historical record to suport it!
You are in trouble aren't you! But don't let reality get in the way of organized scepticism.
---Warwick on 3/7/12|
I don't claim that there is some history in the Bible.
As far as your "scientific principles" ,---gravity, first test of gravity---man fall down, go boom, ouch!
Again, let's have just one prophecy...
---atheist on 3/7/12|
Atheist, Because the Bible tells us so, most certainly does more than qualify as evidence. For archaeological digs and artifacts prove the historical accuracy of names and places recorded in the Bible. And principles of science were recorded in the Bible long before they were confirmed experimentally: earth being round, life in the blood, the earth's gravity, etc. And every prophecy in the Holy Scripture has come to pass so far, over 3,000 verses of fulfilled prophecies. Having all this overwhelming evidence affords us the absolute certainty that the Holy Bible indeed is holy and trustworthy and is a proven accurate source record of 100%, not 90% nor even 95% accuracy, but a complete 100% accuracy rating to date.
---Eloy on 3/7/12|
1cliff, you say you understand and then you say,
"The function of Holy Spirit is controlled by God and his Son!" Lets look at what you said. The Holy Spirit controlled by God, the Holy Spirit is from God. It is the Spirit of God and the Spirit of Jesus. The Bible tells us that when the Holy Spirit indwells a believer, it is the Spirit of Jesus (Acts 16:7) and ( 1 Cor. 6:11) His called "the Spirit of God" One in the same. The fact that the Holy Spirit bears divine names is a proof of His deity. Sixteen times He is related by name to the other two Persons of the Trinity. So it is simple, if you study all of Scripture. You are rejecting the very Word of God.
---Mark_V. on 3/7/12|
"The 6 yr. old child would have to be one steeped in in your "religion"! Ask any 6 yr.old if God can be His own Son or Jesus can be His own father? daaaahh!" 1stCliff
Is God not capable of giving His Holy Spirit to a six-year old child and moving the child to confess that Christ is God?
Did I say that "God can be His own Son or Jesus"? You keep shoving your own feet into your mouth. Do you even realize that you have just confessed openly that YOU DO NOT BELIEVE in the Godhead of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit? Not only that, you still cannot confess that Jesus Christ is God.
Since you can't confess this Truth, whatever that comes out from your mouth is like your father the devil.
---christan on 3/7/12|
\\Atheist, Not so, for there are also many NonChristian witnesses to Jesus' birth, and his life in Nazareth and Capernaum, and his famous miracles\\
Only one still extant is a reference in Josephus, and that is questionable.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/7/12|
Atheist, Not so, for there are also many NonChristian witnesses to Jesus' birth, and his life in Nazareth and Capernaum, and his famous miracles. Before Jesus' birth, Caesar Augustus decreed that all the residence dwelling be chronicled. The civil chronicle of Jesus' birth to Mary, was recorded to be in Bethlehem of Judea, in the 2nd hour of night, between 7 and 8 o'clock Mediterranean time, on December 25th, 5 B.C. Titius carried Jerusalem's chronicle to Rome. And in the 4th century A.D. Cyril, bishop of Jerusalem went to Rome and requested to have the true date of Jesus' birth given to him from the original records. Cyril reported that December 25th was the date given to him from the chronicle.
---Eloy on 3/7/12|
They believe they will escape judgment because they don't believe in a god. As though pushing him out of their minds will somehow magically make him dissappear. Its the only way a man can escape his guilty conscience without knowing the grace of God through Jesus Christ.
---CraigA on 3/7/12|
"The difference is that..."
everything you wrote from this point on is your belief and not a fact that can be verified by evidence. (The Bible tells us so does not qualify as evidence.)
---atheist on 3/6/12|
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Mark V, Like the secret societies with special handshakes,those in the "inner circle", can understand mysteries of the nether world!
Holy Spirit in scripture is not difficult to comprehend when not cluttered up with mumbo-jumbo. The function of Holy Spirit is controlled by God and his Son! Not some mysterious 3rd person. Once the mind is cleared of this it becomes quite easy to see how God uses Holy Spirit to accomplish all things!
---1st_cliff on 3/6/12|
Christian, Rather than address my questions , you choose to attack my person?
The 6 yr. old child would have to be one steeped in in your "religion"!
Ask any 6 yr.old if God can be His own Son or Jesus can be His own father? daaaahh!
To you it might be a "great mystery" to me it is quite clear! I'm not shackled to "isms"
---1st_cliff on 3/6/12|
Atheist, We have a lot in common, for Christians do not believe in tooth fairies nor santa clause either, and we also believe in gravity and physics, that roses are beautiful and aphids have their place. The difference is that we Christians accept the fact that God is real and has physically shown himself to us in the historical person of Jesus. And we also know God is the Maker of these things that you believe in, and that it is highly unlikely that these things ever preexisted as isolated elements and organized themselves together from disorder into order and into perfect symmetry.
---Eloy on 3/6/12|
Cliff, neither does 'Jehovah' or 'theocracy',exist in Scripture but Jehovah's Witnesses serve under a theocracy. Your point?
The WTS still controls you Cliff.
---Warwick on 3/6/12|
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Atheist is not an atheist - he is an agnostic. Just ask him where life came from.
---jerry6593 on 3/6/12|
1Cliff, in the physical it is difficult. All the wisdom you have, will never understand spiritual matters. It is written about the Holy Spirit ,
"The Holy Spirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Most Hight shall overshadow thee, wherefore also the "holy thing" which is begotten shall be called the Son of God" ( Luke 1:35). The passage does not say the Holy Spirit of God is Jesus Father, but that (Holy Thing) and only God is Holy, which is the power of the Most High, (God) would overshadow her and she would conceive. Also,
"Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary they wife, for that which is conceived (Jesus) in her is of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 1:20).
---Mark_V. on 3/6/12|
1stCliff, I asked you two simple questions about the Godhead and Jesus Christ, which a six year old child would answer with conviction better than you did.
You can't even say, YES Jesus Christ is God, can you?
Pointless to know verses and still not able to belief that Christ is God, will only send you to hell, plain and simple - regardless of how much you know the verses in the Bible. I'm sure you can find this in your bible,
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." 1 Timothy 3:16
---christan on 3/6/12|
Christian,Unforunatly the answer is not so simple
Who coined the phrase "Godhead?"
Does this appear in the OT of 4,000 years of history?
God only has one head and is a "singular" God Deut.6.4
The trinity crept in the back door via Egyptian (and other) mythology.
You fell into the trap that Jesus warned about "Be on the watch,therefore"
Simple question for you= Is the Holy Spirit Jesus' father?
Is Jesus Son of the Holy Spirit? If so , where does if say? exactly!
---1st_cliff on 3/5/12|
I do not believe in god or gods.
I do not believe in tooth fairies or Santa Clause.
I believe that the gravity monster sucks me down, makes me fall down and go boom, in a manner pretty well described by Newtonian physics. But I don't think there is a gravity god called Gravitastic who is responsible. But his name might be "Ouch".
I believe that roses are beautiful and aphids have their place.
---atheist on 3/5/12|
atheist, since you claim to be an atheist, Tell us, what do you believe?
---Eloy on 3/5/12|
1stCliff, simple questions for you,
1. Is the Godhead made up of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit?
2. Is Jesus Christ God?
"But let your communication be, Yea, yea, Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil." Matthew 5:37
---christan on 3/5/12|
Rhonda, I have not stalked you at all. I go through most of the answers and the one's that come into my heart to answer I answer. Though most of your answers you have called someone something or another, and even satan has entered you words to others, I still believe the other answers you give or good. When you spoke of the things that the RCC had done through history and paganism and heathenism, it is true. There are times when I cannot support what you say, because of how you say it. Maybe if you worded your words with just a little, not much, love, and still bring your point across, it would edify others.
---Mark_V. on 3/5/12|
//my my my ...YOU accuse others of doing the very same thing you do!!!---Rhonda on 3/4/12//
---michael_e on 3/5/12|
Christians who are brothers and sisters in Christ. The one's that have no answers to the Truth usually start calling you names and stalk you all through CN to try to find one area you might have missed so they can come down on you and so that others can see. Personal pride.
that is so funny I just choked up my morning tea!!
funny thing mark YOU have stalked me across multiple topics ...not once ...not twice ...many many times
and the beautiful part is I'm not the ONLY ONE YOU have done this too
my my my ...YOU accuse others of doing the very same thing you do!!!
either that or there are several "marks" posting as one in the same
---Rhonda on 3/4/12|
Tom 2, what you say is very true. We cannot tell who is really saved or not, or as you say, who is born again and who is not. The narrow gate is narrow alright. All through the history of the Church few have been on it. The majority is on the wide path. Even today the Church is in apostasy. We all know that. Christians don't live like Christians, don't act like them, don't love as they should. The gospel has been watered down so much that man believe there is no fall of man, no one to answer to, and that God is only love. So anything goes, after all God is love.
---Mark_V. on 3/4/12|
from discering the lives of most selh proclaiming born again believers ,iam not sure what they believe ,unless its u can ignore the word of God,and live in the world seekingt all the flesh desires,cause thats the way most are living.
---tom2 on 3/2/12|
Each person can speak for oneself. In a culture of oppression, we have people who want to put others in some category and make them all the same so the oppressive person does not have to bother to really get to know each one and one's unique ways and personality and needs and interests, etc., but the oppressive one glumps people together and then expects and demands the same thing from them all, without caring about each one personally like Jesus does.
---Bill_willa6989 on 3/2/12|
Carla,You're just another one of these "hell fire" promoters
defaming our creator!
Let me illustrate.. I have a very valuable gift that took long hours and expense to create, I say "Here this is for you"...you say "ah no thanks,I'll pass" So I begin to beat you up for refusing my gift! Is this your vision of God?
If you refuse God's offer,you simply "miss out"on the greatest gift ever. You don't get to live!
If you think God tortures people forever for turning down His offer ,IT CEASES TO BE A FREE GIFT!
We have two options LIFE or DEATH. I have made my choice,Life under Christ's rule!
---1st_cliff on 3/2/12|
Atheists believe all sort of things. What they do not believe in is GOD.
On the other argument. GOD said he will destroy the soul in hell. Once we are destroyed we cease to exist. The short time from start to finish will feel like forever and for those who choose death it will be forever.
---Samuel on 3/2/12|
What difference would it make what an atheist believes?
Or what a mormon, hindu, or even today's modern Jew believes (which is not always the same as the ancient Jews)
As a TRUE Believer in The Father in Heaven and Christ I could care less what an atheist believes and I would NEVER attempt to sell them on any other belief because THAT is unbiblical
having friends who are atheists mormons catholics hindus muslims etc etc we ENJOY each others company - PERIOD
sorry if you feel persecuted mr/ms atheist maybe you should just associate with your own kind
---Rhonda on 3/2/12|
1Cliff, I don't mind you calling me shallow. That is not so bad, better then what most others call me. I'm not here to make points for myself, I really come on line to discuss godly matters with Christians. In this discussions Christians can learn, even I have learned a lot. Christians who are brothers and sisters in Christ. The one's that have no answers to the Truth usually start calling you names and stalk you all through CN to try to find one area you might have missed so they can come down on you and so that others can see. Personal pride. And they wake up in the morning with that very intent. As I said before, you do not have to believe in hell, but it doesn't change the place just because you don't believe in it.
---Mark_V. on 3/2/12|
1st-Cliff you say God does not promote punishment in terms of torment or pain. Whether everlasting or for a short period why short change the truth because of your unwillingness to understand, when God called upon the waters it was obviously a drowning, the next time he will call upon fire, If you have ever cooked or fried something you will know it only takes a little oil from the pan to cause you to jump that's just a lil hot oil how much more is torture knowing you stand before God a sinner and see the eternal fire thats been burning from the creation of the earth... and have to go in as the final solution to your life choices... I guess thats eternal bliss yea!
Lord have mercy on ur gnashing of teeth!!!
---Carla on 3/2/12|
Warwick, I have no issue with God's judgements, past or future!They are swift, concise and not vengeful (altho He says vengeance is mine) you can be sure it is "just"tempered with mercy!
---1st_cliff on 3/2/12|
--I don't make the rules or write God's Word---MarkV
Mark sure didnt. He simply puts words in Gods mouth.
"For God so loved the elect..."(John 3:16)
"...and not for ours only but for the sins of all the rest of the elect" (1 John 2:2)
"...not willing that any of the elect should perish, but that all of the elect should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9)
"for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the elect" (John 4:42)
---Blogger9680 on 3/1/12|
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markv, you are right about hell. God does not send anyone to hell, people choose to go there when they reject Jesus Christ. I would be afraid to be an athiest because I would be afraid of going to hell but that is where athiest is headed.
---shira_4368 on 3/1/12|
"You really don't have to believe that God is not only love, but also brings justice. That is your right.
Mark_V. on 3/1/12"
According to Calvin, there is no "right", only a decision on God's part to open the ears and eyes. If you really believe as you say, he has no control over his belief. At the very least you could stop accusing people of not believing when they don't have the ability to change it. I'm not sure why you spend so much time correcting people who bear no fault because it isn't their choice. This is the greatest contradiction of what you teach. If it is meant to be seen by any who don't already agree with you, then there is nothing you can do to change it since that would make you God.
---blogger2020 on 3/1/12|
Mark V, We all know Mark doesn't write God's word but we see him expound it as tho he knows every word!
Like you say I do not believe the scripture when it speaks of hell.
Here's the kicker, which "hell?"
You're careful not to separate Sheol/Hades/Gehenna/Tartarus because it will show your lack of understanding !
Also the origin of the English word "hell" ,don't go there, you might find out it has nothing to do with fire!
Mark, you're probabbly a decent guy,you try to come accross as very"spiritual" but I find you a bit shallow, this is not a put-down!
---1st_cliff on 3/1/12|
Cliff, this is God's created world, therefore He has every right to be judge. He judged that the whole human and animal population of the earth should perish (except those on the ark) "The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually" Genesis 6:5
"The Lord is ...is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance" 2 Peter 3:9 He came as man, to die in our place giving a free gift of forgiveness of sin. Those who doggedly reject this have sadly placed themselves, willingly, outside of His Kingdom and have no ground for complaint for whatever judgement they receive.
---Warwick on 3/1/12|
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1Cliff, I don't mind you do not believe Scripture when it speaks of hell. I don't make the rules or write God's Word. But what I do mind is when people in order to get their point across, speak terrible about the Lord. Say He tortures people, others He is cruel and unjust, others that He has to step off His throne so that man can have his rights because God, who is Almighty and is Ruler of heaven and earth, has no rights over them because they have free will over God, now that is big time pride. Then I answer back. You really don't have to believe that God is not only love, but also brings justice. That is your right. At least fight with the Truth. Show with Scripture why you are right, not alot of talk about others.
---Mark_V. on 3/1/12|
The thing I don't understand about our Atheist friend is why anyone who claims to believe there is no God would waste his time on a Christian website. Is he trying to convert us Christians into the vacuum of atheistic belief, or is there a still, small voice in his head that draws him toward God?
---jerry6593 on 3/1/12|
Warwick, Spending eternity in hell (Sheol/Hades)the common grave of mankind is certainly not hurtful,except for the fact that you can never live again,enjoying life with family and friends!
"I put before you life and death, choose life that you may live..." Is God's offer to us, simple but just and merciful ,puts the onus on us!
The qualification is spelled out at JN.3.16 ,again no threat of violence, just loss of life . (The real kind where you never get sick and die)
Why Christianity has become all muddied up with psychobabble and dire threats is a result of "import" from mythology and paganism!
The truth is not that complicated!
---1st_cliff on 3/1/12|
Mark V: I use words to disgrace God????
I'm not the one that insists God cannot function alone, that somehow He needs 2 helpers.
There's nothing more degrading than saying our Creator has multiple personalities (like Baal and Amon-ra) that's the reason for issuing the statement at Deut.6.4.
He has a Son,seperate and distinct from Him, they converse God has said many times He is pleased with His Son ,like any proud Father!
Why people insist on muddying it up with "triune" nonsense is beyond reason!
---1st_cliff on 3/1/12|
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Mark V: Sorry, I have no intention of demeaning you personally,I simply lumped you in with the Leons and Gordons (and Christian who even says God gives a special body sensitive to pain) here who paint a far different picture of the most horrendous torture imaginable
worse than Hitler or Pol Pot!
The worse hell is in the Quran! when you ask for a drink you're given boiling water!
---1st_cliff on 2/29/12|
Cliff God loves His creation but is also its judge. He judged Adam and ever since mankind has suffered long and hard under the curse. "For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God."
God Judged Egypt and subjected it to horrific plagues. God Judged Israel and Judah bringing foreign armies upon them and subjecting them to banishment.
And it will be Jesus who finally judges where His children spend eternity-heaven or hell. But you know as well as me that any who accept His free gift will inherit heaven. We receive justice with mercy.
---Warwick on 2/29/12|
ULTIMATELY, in order to be 'TRUSTING OF' the DIVINE origin/creator, it is not imperative that we understand (are aware of) all the 'hows and whys' of everything He did (we do not need to know/understand the 'MECHANIX' of the situation like an auto mechanic)....THE PRINCIPLE of not "being FULLY aware" is true (in terms of trust/faith).
HOWEVER, in order to "do the right thing", we must "Give credit where credit is due" (acknowledge His true identity and personal NAME..."GOD" is His TITLE).
"although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks".(Romans 1:21).
Do the right thing....HONOR HIM (pay homage to Him, not with a "SUBJUGATION" worship).
---more_excellent_way on 2/29/12|
1Cliff, you still lie because I never said He tortures anyone or that He has three heads. Your own words. You use words to disgrace God. But our God is righteous. His word will not change because you don't like it. If you go to hell, you will not be tortured. You will receive axactly what you deserve. Because no matter how we analize the concept of hell it often sounds to us as a place of cruel and unusual punishment. However we can take it in full assurance that there will be no cruelty there. It is impossible for God to be cruel. Cruelty involves inflicting a punishment that is more severe or harsh than the crime and that is unjust. God is incapable of inflicting an unjust punishment. No innocent person will ever suffer at His hand.
---Mark_V. on 2/29/12|
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Warwick, There's no need o "sugar coat" truth! Do you deny God is LOVE? There's absolutely nothing "loving" in torture! The problem is not the "word" but purposely interpreted to promote fundamentalists (pagan) theology.
To claim God is a torturer is to not KNOW Him! He rained down sulfur on Sodom, it was over briefly,in the flood, it only takes a few minutes to drown! Harsh but necessary, no torture here!
Give one good reason (scriptural or otherwise)for keeping people alive to feel pain indefinitely! What purpose does it serve???
God gave man "intellect" in order not to be a robot or deceived!
---1st_cliff on 2/29/12|
I don't know what Atheist Believe If it was in christ Jesus there would not be this question.
So only a fool in his heart says there is not an Almighty God YHWH or Messiah YESHUA and so...
The fool must believe is something that is altogether foolishness and of no significance...
IMHO Peace if you can find some.
---Carla on 2/29/12|
athiest don't believe in anything. they don't even believe in humans, earth, music, artist and everything good because God made everything that was made.
---shira4368 on 2/29/12|
God tells the "instruction book" readers of 'religiosity' that 'straying from the book' is not advisable (because no one can "come to The Father but by Me").
Atheists ENJOY THE BENEFITS without getting into God's business...they mind their own affairs (because they're not NOSY people).
"to live quietly, to mind your own affairs" (1 Thessalonians 4:11).
NON-"instruction book readers" that have grown up being "good and right and true" (Ephesians 5:8) let God's business be His own and don't pretend that they are able to 'FIGURE HIM OUT' (God never said "Pick up the instruction book, figure me out and be AWARE OF ME").
Could atheists have the ULTIMATE FAITH??.
---more_excellent_way on 2/28/12|
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They have to know there's an Higher Power, or they wouldn't be speaking so much against it.
---Lawrence on 2/28/12|
Cliff Christian fundamentalists are defined as those who hold to certain Biblical truths. Therefore when your hated 'fundamentalists' preach on Scripture they are preaching upon what is there. There is no doubt Scripture tells us that hell is reserved for those who reject Jesus' free offer of forgiveness. Should the truth of Scripture be told, as is, or should we sugar-coat it to make it more acceptable to unregenerate sinners? And who decides where the sugar-coating is applied? You?
---Warwick on 2/28/12|
Mark V, Sometimes it hurts when you look in the mirror!
You have said many time to me that God tortures humans forever (Which is pointless)
That He is three Gods (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) each one a God that's 3!
Are you dead if you shoot yourself? (according to you)alive in some imagined realm!
None of these things are truthful, but you have defended them to me from your religious ism!
I do not support atheism but part of the blame rests with the erroneous preaching of the fundamentalists!
---1st_cliff on 2/28/12|
While related, the two words mean different things. They are not the same.
Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 2/28/12|
"Tell me, what do you think atheists believe?" That there is no God.
---Josef on 2/28/12|
We must be "restored" to once again become a "living breathing SOUL" that has a "consciousness"/conscience.
Suffering produces "endurance" (so that you will have "character"). Become a genuine "SELF" instead of a 'walking book'.
1 Peter 5:10
"And after you have suffered a little while,.....restore....".
While atheists do fail to recognize/acknowledge Jesus as the savior of all humanity, they ARE (by coincidence or innate trust/faith?) 'resting' on the eternal "DAY" (sabbath,...THE LORD'S "day"....this is the age of ETERNITY) and seemingly learn an "eternal spirit", Hebrews 9:14 (maybe it's the 'God seed' 1 John 2:27).
---more_excellent_way on 2/28/12|
1cliff, you are dishonest and a liar when you answer in support of athiest. No one has said,
"They are told he burns human beings for not other purpose than to make them scream with pain even forever!
Also that he has 3 heads (each one a separate god) and even if you shoot yourself you can never die!"
Those words come from you, and not from any Christian. You lie because you don't believe the Word of God. Only a fool would say what you said.
"But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14).
---Mark_V. on 2/28/12|
The sincere atheist discards prudishness, hypocrisy, snobishness and is completely confident that they are not in violation of natural law. The atheist realizes that being 'proper' (PROPRIETY) about dress codes/etiquette/table manners, and even man's 'CODES' of morality does not enrich the soul nor could it fulfill any divine purpose. Prudishness is the result of VAIN pride (vanity/snobbishness and is 'anti-spiritual'). The atheist rejects the idea of violating nature by becoming a non-thinking "BOOK". They remain a 'CONSCIOUSNESS' and are "SELF"-aware. If you look deeply into scripture, this is the SECOND MESSAGE (how to become a truly genuine human being)....what 'bookster' wouldn't be jealous of a true atheist? (BIGOTRY).
---more_excellent_way on 2/27/12|
Really, can you blame Atheists for rejecting the god as interpreted on here as "real?"
They are told he burns human beings for not other purpose than to make them scream with pain even forever!
Also that he has 3 heads (each one a separate god) and even if you shoot yourself you can never die!
Plus he created the whole universe in 144 hours! Sure!
This they pass off as truth!!like I say can you blame them???
---1st_cliff on 2/27/12|
The writer philosopher GK Chesterton summed it up well-When men stop believing in God it is not that they believe in nothing, but that they will believe anything.
---Warwick on 2/27/12|
Asking "what do atheists believe" is as vague a question as "what do Christians believe", because the beliefs of both vary widely from one individual to another.
Some atheists are honest skeptics ("I see no evidence of supernatural beings"). Some are ignorant apathetics ("I don't know if there's a God, and I dont care"), some are even rabid anti-theists ("I don't believe there is a God, and I hate him with all my heart").
I have heard stories from Christians who lived in iron curtain countries who could only explain their government's open hostility to religion to that last kind of atheism, which is itself illogical (i.e. how can one hate something one doesn't even believe exists?)
---StrongAxe on 2/27/12|
Falsehood, idolatry, and disobedience.
---Eloy on 2/26/12|
Too easy Atheist. You guys religiously believe YOURSELVES! :)
---Leon on 2/26/12|
i don't know. i only here about what not to believe from an atheist.
but, does it really matter?
if there was nothing before and there is nothing after, ones beliefs are not any more correct than anothers.
---aka on 2/27/12|
Athiest, I only know of one believe athiest agree on, that is that there is no God. They like all Christians or not in agreement on many other issues. Why? Because we are all made different, have different experiences and different teachers in life. One thing all Christians agee on, is that man is fallen, and salvation only comes through Jesus Christ who died for the sins of those who will believe. Even that some don't agree.
Athiest are the same, they agree on, there is no God, but disagree on why they don't believe.
---Mark_V. on 2/27/12|
From a sample of one - you - I think that they don't know what they believe, and are thus agnostic - not atheist.
You have stated that you believe that life arose on planet earth by some unknown, naturalistic process, even though current science and mathematics deems it impossible.
---jerry6593 on 2/27/12|
atheist: What do the Atheists believe?
Well...you did admit that you have a commercial arrangement with the Tooth Fairy in a tooth for coin deal. Remember?
And the dictionary defines Atheism as:
1. the belief that there is no God.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being.
Here we see Atheists believe that NOTHING did the impossible by evolving into the huge diversity of complex life forms we see today. And this by merely random, meaningless, chaotic, delusional processes. This is belief in the absurdly ridiculous.
Am I right so far?
---Haz27 on 2/27/12|
Regardless of what atheists "believe" in, "believe" is a form of "faith". What's more important is, that "faith/believe" you have is DEAD and should you die in that state, you'll be with that rich man, Pharaoh, Pilate and the many reprobates in Hades and later to be thrown into the Lake of Fire by Christ on Judgement Day
---christan on 2/27/12|
I should think that like Christians, different atheists believe different things.
Why are you asking? Are you conducting a survey?
Glory to Jesus Chris!
---Cluny on 2/26/12|