To bike,wish you every blessing - you are correct in my years see the goings on at church's.good post! Thankyou! Love of Jesus!
---ELENA on 2/24/13|
Churches do poorly in both. One, churches do poorly in a "proper way to ensure the church goes only against genuine errors in belief." Two, churches do poorly in preventing "views that are heretical". Churches have become immersed in replace testament doctrines, so how can it be that the church will uphold any standard of correction? Little things are made large and large things are made little. Unimportant becomes important and important becomes unimportant.
I do not know many "who are in fact following God or the Bible. But there has to be a remnant though I do not even consider myself a part of the remnant or FIT. As a poor student of Christ, I only achieve some familiarity.
---bike on 2/22/13|
Bike: Your comment about 1 Cor 5:12 is true, as are Christ's comments on what to do if a brother sins against you (Mat18:15).
However, in both cases there has to be a proper way to ensure the church goes only against genuine errors in belief, not against ideas that a group of people in the church happen not to like.
A church has to only prevent views that are heretical, not just disliked, and the danger of 'judging' may be that the laity may press the council or the pastor to press members who are in fact following 'the faith given by God'
---Peter on 2/21/13|
Well, when I do judge, I do it by God's standards and not my own. I also do it with the idea in mind that I only wish to use the Word of God for correction, if christen, or to help lead others to God, if non christen. This I believe is righteous in the sight of the Lord.
---Joseph on 2/16/13|
Yes, I judge myself a sinner and I judge everyone else that way too. John 3:16 used to be the most popular Bible verse. Now we are told "Judge not lest ye be judged yourself" has become the most popular Bible verse. 1 Corinthians 5:12 says, "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?" So we are called to judge. But since everyone does so well at sinning, Romans 2:1 says, "You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
---bike on 1/25/13|
gene, Good question! Yes I judge others constantly. Do I judge them as I would have myself judged ... "NO!"
Many times I excuse my friends and family when I would be much harder on myself, and many times I condemn strangers or acquaintainces and excuse myself.
Thank God he is the judge and not me!
I am trying to get better!
---trey on 1/22/13|
Char, so wonderfull to have on here,too! Please, keep me in your prayers, have alot of trouble with 2 of my neighbors, mostly, her boyfriend! I am very happy now no husband, no boyfriend and nothing interests me but get closer my walk in GodAnyway, they need God, so, I let mgt. Know the situation. Sometimes you try to help people and they not in the same frame of mind.Today been a wonderfull day had a great time, my keyboard playing for the lord. Hope be able get to prayer service A sister who I knew many years ago, they have small group service.she will pick me up! I am excitedl love of Jesus! Thankyou! .
---ELENA on 1/21/13|
elena, thanks. I am use to the old time way. I just can't get into this modern contemporary music the churches have today. Its ok if you like it but I just the old gospel songs and ol time preaching. not many people go to ol time churches but I love mine. my friends have a song out called "I's stick with the ol stuff". elena, you are a very sweet person and I love your post too.
---shira4368 on 1/20/13|
SisterShira4368, Sure do enjoy your text, you remind me the way christians just used to be so, just you make me think about my grandmother she had a way with the worst of people, she didn't look down on them with or without nice clothrs or cars.she was humble & sometimes she made me think! Like you do & sometimes
Laugh! You have a wonderfull spiritual down home like to me! My stepDad he grew up in Louisiana.That sing & love the bible old time ways..Thankyou, ELENA
---ELENA on 1/20/13|
people always judge others. that is our depraved human nature. I am working hard on that one. I surely don't judge what someone wears or how they look or if they have money. all that doesn't really matter. the truth is we are not to walk in the way of unrighteousness. We are unequally yoked with unbelievers. also the appearance of evil comes in to play too. I will fellowship in order to tell someone about Jesus Christ. I have seen old friends walk out of persons life after that person is saved.
---shira4368 on 1/16/13|
YES! I do. But, first: Christians are forbidden to judge HYPOCRITICALLY, that is, when such judgment entails intolerance of another's sin being blind to one's own sins---is a sin, or when human judgment impinges [strike] on God's prerogative. On the other side of the coin, in Ezekiel 23:36>>>More over, the Lord said to me. "Son of man, will you judge Aholah and Aohlibah? Then declare to them their abominations". And this>>Ezekiel 22: 1-16 "The prophet is authorized to judge the Bloody City".
---pat on 1/14/13|
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---Josef on 4/14/12//--
1 Jn 2:27
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
There are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood, and these three agree. If we receive human testimony, the testimony of God is greater, for this is the testimony of God that he has testified to his Son.
---char on 1/14/13|
Johnusa, very good advice. Christan uses the Word of God to show what God has to say concerning what others teach.
"But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judge by no one." ( 1 Cor. 2:15).
---Mark_V. on 4/16/12|
Listen to Christian. He hath judged righteous judgment.
---John.usa on 4/14/12|
"This area is one of the Biblical linguistic problem arises as there multiple Hebrew and Greek words that are translated" Blogger 9211
"It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
Are you having a problem because you are using your flesh to understand what is spiritual? Meaning, if the Spirit of God quickeneth you not, of course there will be problems with one's understanding, as demonstrated by the many bloggers in here.
---christan on 4/14/12|
It is good to judge others because it gets them closer to God and lets them know they are loved by the person judging them.
---John.usa on 4/14/12|
This area is one of the Biblical linguistic problem arises as there multiple Hebrew and Greek words that are translated into Judge or Judgment in English compounded by the fact each or the Hebrew and Greek term can be translated into multiple English Rendering in the King James Version other than Judge or Judgment so the only way you can accurately read the bible in these instances is to use a Bible that has the Strong's number associated with each word in the verse to ascertain the correct definition or inflection that is being used. Without doing that in this instance you will possibly imply an incorrect meaning from the text. Using Bible software with primary and reveres Strong's look up capabilities will help you.
---Blogger9211 on 4/14/12|
Yes, I do judge others, but I judge according to the instructions found in scripture.
---Rob on 4/14/12|
"Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things." Proverbs 28:5
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ." 1 Corinthians 2:14-16
---christan on 4/14/12|
"Do you judge others as you would have yourself judged?" No. I would rather not be judged, therefore I judge no one. Mat 7:1>Luk 6:37 I choose to follow the instruction of Paul, and "judge nothing before the time". 1Cr 4:5
---Josef on 4/14/12|
Thankyou!Moderator/family,I was a woman before coming on ChristiaNet,yes! Quick to speak! Judgemental,my mother was...long story short alot of things thru just reading here,then pray'n about it,talkin' to my heavenly father and now,I lend myself to prayer! I can't write like others but,yes! I rather pray than say something... I feel God lead me like to do it. God can really thru the holyspiritget thru to a man's heart... A song .."God so big yet,he can get inside the heart of a man!"
---ELENA on 4/13/12|
---Eloy on 4/13/12|
nope still working on it
---Scott1 on 4/13/12|
I try not to judge others however, I do judge the issue under discussion.
But if the one I am debating with indicates to me that they are a non-Christian or a member of a cult religion, my judgment is that I really need to try and lead them to a saving faith in Christ.
Jesus said "Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment." John 7,24
---lee1538 on 4/13/12|