The opposite of death, is life.
One does not need to be immortal to experience life.
Being deathless, and beyond corruption is our hope and expectation.
There is only One Who has immortality, the man Christ Jesus.
The body of Christ receives this immortality at His coming.
The rest of the saints are resurrected to life on earth for the thousand year reign.
---Phil on 9/21/12|
II Cor 5:16 "Wherefore henceforth know we no man (Christ) after the flesh:..."
We are no longer going by the things He taught to Israel under the Law of Moses. we have this whole new revelation revealed by Him from glory.read Gal 1:11-19 These Scriptures lay it out so plain. when someone says that they are not going to go by what some man like Paul says, that they are going to go by what Jesus says. Always remember everything He taught back in the Four Gospels was before His death, burial, and resurrection. The Twelve didn't know He was going to die. And after He was crucified they had no idea that He was going to be raised from the dead (Luke 18:34) Why? Because that was something God was going to reveal to this apostle.
---michael_e on 9/20/12|
2 Corinthians 5 begins in verse 1 by stating the two bodies Christians have, the first is physical (earthly house) what we have today, and the second body is eternal (spiritual body the promise of reward at the resurrection). In verse 16 the statement we do not know him now because we are still physical, but if you look back to verse 6 and 7 it is by faith we will inherit the reward of our eternal body and by faith we are living with the spirit of promise and understand these things through the Holy Spirit. A companion verses would be Hebrews 11:13 those who died in faith and in faith wait for the resurrection of all 1 Corinthians 15
---Follower_of_Christ on 9/19/12|
2 Timothy 1:10
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
Hebrews 2:99 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death,crowned with glory and honour, that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same, that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil,.
The OPPOSITE of death is immortality AKA Eternal life.
---kathr4453 on 9/19/12|
Phil, It was needful for Jesus to be born in the Flesh so he could die for our sin.(Heb 2) Secondly, when Jesus does come at the second coming, He's not coming IN THE FLESH either. He's coming as the GLORIFIED CHRIST (Zechariah 12-14).
When it says He came to His Own after the flesh, that means He was Born according to scripture via the virgin Birth, through the line of JUDAH, the son of David.
Of coarse the Messiah was promised through Israel, not Fu Manchu! That would then make Him a false Christ.
To the Jew FIRST and then to the Gentile, Paul says many times. The Jews FIRST heard the Gospel on the day o Pentecost and 6000 souls were added to the CHURCH. There is only ONE CHURCH!
---kathr4453 on 9/19/12|
In including Christ as one of those Whose flesh was once recognized, the reason for this recognition was based upon the purpose at the time.
Jesus' ministry to His own people was according to flesh. The promises, the Law, the Covenants, all pertain to the earth and the flesh.
Jn 1:11 To His own He came, and those who are His own accepted Him not.
All the Kingdom teaching concerns flesh, the earth. It is a different gospel, but not another Gal 1:6
Paul's later revelations, the secrets revealed to him alone 2C 12:1, changed the Gospel from the earthly promises to one of the joint and equal body of Christ.
This the Twelve did not preach or teach.
---Phil on 9/19/12|
2 Corinthians 5:16-17
16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
The Therefore in the next breath is the answer.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away, behold, all things are become new.
Phil, it means this:
It means those Born Again are no longer seen of God in our old sin man called flesh. They are seen as a New Creature IN CHRIST. God sees us ONLY IN CHRIST. The RISEN CHRIST!
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
---kathr4453 on 9/19/12|
I Cor 5:16 Wherefore (because that's all been accomplished) henceforth (since that time, Christ's death, burial, and resurrection) know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now (this side of His death, burial, and resurrection) henceforth know we him no more."
---michael_e on 9/19/12|
I believe the reason is stated in V14. Jesus' love compels us to love the world as Christ loved the world. Not to look at people the way the world would, but to love and show compassion as Christ would.
---JIM on 9/18/12|
Paul speaking of Christs earthly ministry, where he ministered to Israel with few exceptions, where he was born, lived and died under law. We are no longer under the Law, but under Grace, initiated with His resurrection.
---michael_e on 9/18/12|
Phil, I believe Trey, Cluny, Willie C, and Gordon got the message. Since Pauls conversion, his priority was to meet people's spiritual needs over their physical needs (Acts 17:16: Rom. 1:13-16: 9:1-3: 10:1) "According to the flesh" Here Paul no longer evaluated people according to external, human, worldly standards (10:3). "We know Him thus no longer" Paul no longer had merely a fallible, human assessment of Jesus Christ (Acts 9:1-6: 26:9-23). Knowing Him in the flesh was not important anymore, but knowing Him in the Spirit when a believer is "in Christ"
---Mark_V. on 9/18/12|
Phil, this is a great question! I had never considered this verse.
2Co5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh:
Paul is stating that we reguard no man after the flesh.
yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,
Paul is saying that some, maybe even he, had known Christ while he was here in the flesh.
yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Paul is stating that we don't know Christ any more in his mortal state, in continuance, that the true value is not knowing Christ while he was here in the flesh, but knowing him in a spiritual sense.
Thanks for encouraging me to study. Lord bless you.
---trey on 9/17/12|
2 Corinthians 2:15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:
2 Corinthians 2:16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death, and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?
2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
---francis on 9/16/12|
Perhaps it's a polite admonishment to think in the Spirit rather than of the fleshly man. That is, to know each other more deeper in the spirit, by the Spirit, and not focus so much on the outward flesh-nature. Not 100% sure, though.
---Gordon on 9/16/12|
"Therefore, from now on, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him thus no longer." (2 Corinthians 5:16)
> "we regard no one according to the flesh" > we do not judge and know people by what we can see them doing with their bodies, but deeper we need to truly know people > Philippians 1:9 < in God's love we have His light for how to see people (c: > not how this world has trained people to evaluate by appearance (John 7:24).
> Even Jesus is to be known deeper than what things He did while in the flesh. We know Him better by having Him in us and how He in us has us loving (Galatians 4:19) has us discovering how He is (c:
---willie_c: on 9/16/12|
Doubtless, St. Paul, who was educated under Rabbi Gamaliel in Jerusalem, saw Jesus a few times before His resurrection. They might have had a casual acquaintance and even a few words.
However, this earthly knowledge of Jesus is nothing, compared to St. Paul's vision and call as an apostle.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/16/12|
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