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Do you believe in spiritualism - that the dead are really alive as spooks?

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Jerry, I admit I am born of the Spirit. If you were born of the Spirit you would not judge me.
You speak of the flesh but not of spiritual things, that is why you make fun and judge those who are Spirit born. For God's Word tells us,
"But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14)
You are one natural man, that is why you think it is foolishness and judge me.
Notice what the next verse ( 15) say,
"But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judge by no one"
meaning, not even you.
---Mark_V. on 12/9/12

MarkV: "we speak in the spiritual sense."

So you admit that you are a spiritualist, a believer in spooks! LOL!

---jerry6593 on 12/8/12

Sis. Jan, you are abolutely correct. Jerry gives passages concerning the flesh. He never gives passages concerning our spiritual life together with Christ. He speaks worldly, we speak in the spiritual sense. I always wondered what SDA's believed, I always thought they believed in a spiritual birth, but by their answers, they don't. That is why they speak of the law, and about what the flesh can do or not do. Never about the Spirit.
francis doesn't move on to the New Covenant either. he preaches the same as Jerry.
---Mark_V. on 12/7/12

Jan: "The Bible says that the dead in Christ really are alive, they're all in heaven"

I don't know what Bible you're reading, but mine (KJV) says:

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing,

Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, in that very day his thoughts perish.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

---jerry6593 on 12/7/12

The Bible says that the dead in Christ really are alive, they're all in heaven.

All the dead who've heard the gospel but refused Christ as Savior, are in hell.

Spiritualism says that there are ghosts who are the beings that died and don't know how to move on.

The Bible calls them demons.
---jan4378 on 12/6/12

Jerry, Jesus Christ is the Spirit of the Law.
"There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death." (Rom. 8:1,2) The Spirit of the law is Christ. When a believer is in Christ, it is because the Spirit of Christ is in him.
Now hear what the written law could not do:
"Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them" If you attempt to do the written letter of the law, you are cursed because you never can do them.
You need Christ Jesus, not more laws.
---Mark_V. on 12/3/12

Markie: "all of you are wrong and following the written letter of the law, not the Spirit of the Law."

Three questions:

1) Did Jesus follow the letter as well as the spirit of the Law?

2) Is Jesus your example?

3) Is it possible to keep the spirit of "thou shalt not commit adultery" while breaking the letter of it?

Your core beliefs are founded on trite cliches. If you were interested in truth, you would find which day Jesus kept, and then contact your nearest astronomical observatory and ask if they can prove that the weekly cycle of Sunday-through-Saturday is unchanged in the past 2000 years. Be a man, Markie, give truth a chance.

---jerry6593 on 12/3/12

Jerry, call me what you want, it will not change the fact that God ever commanded man to do Saturday Sabbath, or that He ever told us He begin creation on Sunday. So, go for it, call me what you want, it will not change anything. It only gives proof that E.G. White and all of you are wrong and following the written letter of the law, not the Spirit of the Law.
---Mark_V. on 12/2/12

Markie: You are still blathering away about the irrelevant fact that the Bible does not say that Saturday is the Sabbath. Why don't you grow up and address the core issue. Why not agree to keep the day that jesus kept - whatever day that is. Then find out for yourself what day that is today. It's not that hard. Millions have done it. I did it. You can too.

If you don't try to discover the truth, then you will continue to make confusion (aka Babylon) your religion. It is fitting that many call the RCC Babylon, and she claims that the transference of sanctity from Sabbath to Sunday was her doing.

---jerry6593 on 12/1/12

Jerry, you now say,

" You seem to believe that the entire world is as confused on the subject as you are. It is not."

The entire world believes as you do. They created the calendar, How can they not believe in the calendar? They are not confused. You are confused when you say that God said Saturday was the Seventh Day. You have not provided one passage. And you never will since there is no passage. It make you angry that you cannot come out with one passage. it is not my fault. God never said such words. You did.
---Mark_V. on 11/30/12

Markie: Much talk, no information. You still have not answered which day of the week that YOU think is the seventh. You seem to believe that the entire world is as confused on the subject as you are. It is not. Do your homework, and you'll find that there is universal agreement on the subject. Jesus straightened out the Israelites in the lesson of the manna. He gave us the correct example in His earthly ministry. Astronomical observations conclude that the weekly cycle of Sunday through Saturday has not been broken in 2000 years. The fact is that Saturday IS the seventh day of the week today whether you believe it or not. It seems that you love a lie more than the truth.

---jerry6593 on 11/29/12

Jerry, you never answered my questions, and ask more questions. It boils you over. You don't know how to hate me, so you try to be polite now, it must be hard for you.
No, I am not God. But I do know by Scripture that the Jews who rejected the Lord, died in their sins. That is simple. Only those who are saved by grace through faith will be saved.
you asked me how do I know that the seventh day is Saturday. I know that because man called the seventh day saturday. By Man's traditions and called Sunday the first day of the week. God never said the Seventh Day was Saturday and that man should keep Saturday Sabbath. Who invented the Calendar? Was it God or man? Did God say Sunday was the first day of creation? Show me where?
---Mark_V. on 11/28/12

Markie: What day of the week do you think the seventh day is now? Why do you refuse to answer such a simple question? I think you avoid it because it will prove you wrong.

"You do know that the Jews are not saved right?"

What!!! Who died and made you God??? You are NOT the judge of mankind! Of course there will be Jews in heaven. Read your Bible!

---jerry6593 on 11/26/12

Jerry, here is your problem, you want us to worship God on Saturday. We want to worship God everyday. you say no, you are breaking the law. I say where? You show nothing. Then this time you call me names instead of taking your defender out of your pocket. Just because I want to worship Christ everyday, and go to church on Sunday, and Tuesday's. You don't want me to. You don't want me to do another day but Saturday. You make Saturday a law. And want to put everyone under the written letter of the Law. I am not under the written letter of the law, but under the Spirit of the law. You show no passages where God specified Saturday. And you never will, because it is just not there.
---Mark_V. on 11/26/12

Jerry, I read you passage many times before. And to this day, I have not found the word Saturday in that passage. God never even gave a clue that the Seventh Day was Saturday. Or that we should make the calender a certain way to make sure Saturday is the Seventh Day. Man formed the calender. The Myans created a calender also. The day doesn't have 24 hours exact, the reason we have a leap year. You are being legalistic. You do know that the Jews are not saved right? And since they were not saved, they had no reason to honor God. So God put them under the law. Where they had to worship God on the Seventh day, like it or not. We are not under the Law. God does not kill you for not going to Church on the Seventh Day. He live in us, we rest in Him.
---Mark_V. on 11/25/12

Spookman (aka markV): For your information, God wrote the following with His own finger in stone. You have the choice to believe Him or call Him a liar.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

---jerry6593 on 11/23/12

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Jerry, first of all I am glad you did not take your buddy out of your pocket to defend you this time as you did on the other blog. Good for you.
Second, since my answer to you was,

"He did command the Seventh Day Sabbath to Israel."

I read all of Genesis and nowhere did I find where God commanded Adam and Eve to keep the Seventh Day Sabbath. He did bless it and sanctified it because He rested on the Seventh Day. Nowhere are we told Adam and Eve worshipped God on Saturday. Or that God told them the Seventh Day was Saturday because He rested on Saturday. He did command Israel to keep the Seventh Day holy, but never mentioned Saturday. If I am wrong, show me the passages in Genesis.
---Mark_V. on 11/22/12

MarkV: "He did command the Seventh Day Sabbath to Israel."

Are you calling God a liar? He wrote that He established the Seventh Day Sabbath at creation - long before there was an Israel. Why do you so stubbornly refuse to believe the Bible?

---jerry6593 on 11/21/12

"the Church of Christ worships God on Sunday by man's tradition"Yes it does!Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?Hebrews 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. BEFORE THE LAW OF MOSES!Genesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
---J_Marc on 11/19/12

Jerry, now you change your tune. First you said God commanded man to keep Saturday Sabbath. Yet you never found one passage. Never found one passage that states that God begin creation on Sunday and rested Saturday. So you lied. There is no Saturday in God's words that you mentioned. He did command the Seventh Day Sabbath to Israel. And today the Church of Christ worships God on Sunday by man's tradition, and everyday of the week, because Jesus is our Sabbath. You want to keep the Law of Moses, go for it. But God never said Saturday was the Sabbath. Man made Saturday, not God.
---Mark_V. on 11/19/12

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"spiritualism - that the dead are really alive as spooks?" Deuteronomy 18:10-14 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: ------J_Marc on 11/13/12

And if you read the story of King Saul going to a enchanter to bring up the deceased Samuel, you will know this was the end of Saul as King. Noe MarkV actually believes a witch could summons Samuel...however I believe it was witchcraft itself.
---kathr4453 on 11/19/12

"God commanded the keeping of THE SEVENTH-DAY SABBATH." I John 5:2 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his COMMANDMENTS." Ezek 20:21 "Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them, they polluted my
SABBATHS: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness."
---J_Marc on 11/18/12

MarkV: You poor, confused boy. You have proved that you don't know the difference between a question and a statement. So how would you know whether I've answered one or not. And for the record, it is YOU - not me - who believes in spooks, although you prefer a different name for them. God commanded the keeping of THE SEVENTH-DAY SABBATH. You still refuse to say what day of the week you think that is. I believe, as the rest of the entire world does, that that day IS Saturday. It is YOU who is out of step - not me.

---jerry6593 on 11/18/12

Jerry, no I am not wrong. and I have answered you dumb questions about spooks and have not answered any of my questions. All you do is throw a lot of smoke. you promised you were going to show me one passage where God commanded for everyone to keep Saturday Sabbath and to this day you have come out with nothing as usual. YOu said it was there and that I was not keeping the law. You don't have the spirit of Christ because if you did you would know that those who have faith in Christ are spiritually alive together with Christ. But you do not believe. the reason you bring out the topic of spooks.
---Mark_V. on 11/17/12

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I know that there are evil spirits, that exist in different forms. Scriptural evidence provided and posted manner what person/s needs to be told so often????
---Carla on 11/16/12

MarkV: "I am thinking in the spirit."

But, what spirit? The Holy Spirit is the one I'm thinking in, because I go by the Bible. You on the other hand, go by another spirit - one that promotes pagan Greek philosophy. Why have you not answered a single one of my Bible-based questions? Could it be because you know that you are wrong - just like your stand against God's Sabbath?

---jerry6593 on 11/16/12

Jerry, of course the physically dead are not physically alive since their physical bodies are dead. They cannot speak, think, or answer. They are physically dead. But they are spiritually alive together with Christ if they are believers through faith. All believers are born of God spiritually. And when believers die physically, their body does not talk, move, think, or sin anymore. But their spirit is very much alive to together with Christ, never to separate again, they have become one spiritual body in Christ, Jesus will never leave them, Never.
You are thinking in the flesh, I am thinking in the spirit. You will never understand what it is to be born of God. Read the Bible. But without the Spirit you will never understand the Spiritual.
---Mark_V. on 11/15/12

MarkV: You still can't grasp the concept that the whole is equal to the sum of its parts. Now listen very carefully....According to the Bible, a soul consists of God's breath of life plus a body of flesh. A soul cannot be separated from the body, as the body is part of the soul, and ceases to exist without the body. Why is that so hard for you to understand? You keep advocating for the philosophy of the ancient Greek pagans. Why? What's wrong with God's definition?

If your Greek interpretation were correct, there would be no need for resurrection. You claim that the dead are all still alive, but the Bible says:

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

---jerry6593 on 11/15/12

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Jerry, you confuse spirit, soul and body of a human being with conscience and breath, ghost and spooks. Here let me help you. Jesus was fully human. Just like any of us. Yet He possessed a human rational soul and spirit. Christ said to His disciples,
"My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death" (Matt. 26:38). This could hardly be attriuted to His divine nature and therefore is a reference to the fact that He possessed a human soul. In regard to His human spirit,
"And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, Father into Your hands I commit My spirit" (Luke 23:46). Jesus in His humanity had a spirit, that went back to God. There was no intergalatic flights, spooks or ghost mentioned.
---Mark_V. on 11/14/12

Mark V: "Do you not know that a human being has a body, soul and a Spirit?"

No, Mark, I don't. A literal translation of the scripture you referenced in 1 Thes would be "breath, mind, and body", which is then consistent with the body of scripture which states that a "soul" (person) consists of a body and the "breath of God" (Gen 2:7). The Bible clearly states that man is NOT immortal (1 Tim 2:16), and that he must "put on immortality" at Christ's 2nd coming (1 Cor 15:53).

There are no humans in heaven but the few who have been translated or resurrected. Even King David is still in the grave awaiting resurrection (Act 2:29, 34).

---jerry6593 on 11/14/12

I totally understand where you are coming from Jerry, okay so the wording may sound a little nifty but what you ask is perfectly reasonable to point out.

Many times people have claimed they know what they are talking about yet they fall down at both testimonies and the evidence as marc and yourself have given.

Who really cares if you have doubters... Christ said answer yes or no not maybe. There are evil spirits and they follow saved people too regardless why because we are all sinners

that don't mean all sinners will have evil spirits bother them, however, who, why and how no one knows. But spiritualis/t's/m is alive, thriving and exists.

"He can unto his own and they knew him not..."
---Carla on 11/13/12

"spiritualism - that the dead are really alive as spooks?" Deuteronomy 18:10-14 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
---J_Marc on 11/13/12

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Jerry, how can anyone have a rational discussion with you when you speak of spooks and ghost? They are dumb questions. I did not say you were dumb, in fact you are very smart. No such thing as a spook, ghost, only the Holy Ghost, and no intergalatic flights in the Bible that are real. You either believe you are born of the Spirit, made alive together with Christ as (Eph. 2:5) tells us or you don't. It is as simple as that.
Do you not know that a human being has a body, soul and a Spirit?
"Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. He who calls you is faithful, who also will do it" (1 Thess. 5:23,24).
---Mark_V. on 11/13/12

Mark V: OK, I guess you are not man enough to have a rational discussion without childish name calling. You continue to call my questions answers. Do you know the difference? You describe a spirit within us as being conscious (not conscience) and able to exist outside our bodies and even travel to heaven (that's where Jesus is). Yet ghosts or spooks, which are defined by the same properties, you say don't exist. They are one and the same, Markie. If ghosts don't exist, then neither does a separable soul. You claim that the Bible teaches of such spirits leaving the body and remaining conscious - it does not.

Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth, in that very day his thoughts perish.

---jerry6593 on 11/13/12

Jerry, your answers are dumb. There is no such thing as spooks. You say,
"Ok, this spirit you claim remains alive, conscious, and capable of intergalactic fight"
The Bible speaks of our spirit. Everyone has a spirit. The believers spirit is alive together with Christ. (Eph. 2:6). No such thing as intergalactic flights. Bible speaks of the Spirit going to God. Then asked,
"How does it differ in essence from a ghost or spook?"
There is no such thing as spooks or ghost. So the question is dumb. then say,
"How do you get around the multitudes of scriptures that declare the dead to be unconscious?".
We have not mentioned the conscience but the spirit of man. More dumb questions.
---Mark_V. on 11/12/12

Mark V: Are you so bereft of intellegence and common courtesy that you call my question an answer and me "dumb" for asking it? I'll give you another chance to answer if you are man enough.

OK, this spirit you claim remains alive, conscious, and capable of intergalactic flight - how does it differ in essence from a ghost or a spook? Seems to me they are one and the same. And how do you get around the multitude of scriptures that declare the dead to be unconscious?

And since I am so "dumb", could you please explain to me what "none spiritual life with Christ," means?

---jerry6593 on 11/12/12

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Jerry, your dumb answer about spooks and ghost gives proof of your ignorance concerning those born of the Spirit, those baptized into One body in Christ, and sealed. It gives evidence of your "none spiritual life with Christ," that you have no clue what it means to be born of God. That is why you always argue. But what you are doing is what (Hebrews 10"29) condemns,
"Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the Covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of Grace?" It will be a lot worse because you teach there is no spiritual life in Christ.
---Mark_V. on 11/11/12

Mark_V.: "..when a Christian dies, his body is dead, but his spirit goes to be with the Lord."

If you believe this then you know of another preaching which contradicts this: "the dead in christ shall rise and the livning shall be caught up with them." The dead know nothing. They are alsleep until the call of Christ at the last day. Then after the thousand reign of Christ then the other dead shall rise and be judged from the book of life.

Be not affraid of man for he is able to kill the body, but be affraid of God for he can kill the body and the soul.
---Steveng on 11/11/12

MarkV: "What we do believe is that when a Christian dies, his body is dead, but his spirit goes to be with the Lord."

OK, this spirit you claim remains alive, conscious, and capable of intergalactic flight - how does it differ in essence from a ghost or a spook? Seems to me they are one and the same. And how do you get around the multitude of scriptures that declare the dead to be unconscious?

---jerry6593 on 11/11/12

--Glenn on 11/9/12
1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1 Timothy 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Do you see that phrase " Word of God" It refers to the writings in what we called the OLD TESTAMENT. In the days of Paul that is what " word of God" "It is written" meant. They did not have what we call the " NEW TESTAMENT."

Notice the dietary restriction taken from the OLD TESTAMENT:
Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from things strangled Leviticus 17:15 Deuteronomy 14:21 , and from blood.
---francis on 11/10/12

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Still no, Matthew 25:46, 2Corinthians 5:6-8, Hebrews 9:27.
The S.D.A. needs to incorporate 1Timothy 4:1-9 into their Bibles.
Shira 4368:
The DC-3 is my favorite aircraft, and the AC-47 gunship was called the spooky. Just thinking about Benghazi at the time.
---Glenn on 11/9/12

Bro. Willie C, let me say I have been here on line for over three years, and when Jerry or francis post something, most of the time, not every time, it has to do with the teachings of the SDA topics. The Ten Commandments, the law, the days of creation to introduce why others don't keep the Ten Commandments which really means why don't they do Saturday Sabbath, or a topic that will lead to soul sleep. They are really topics which are smoke screens to lead others to answer questions on their own traditions. It has not changed since I have been here.
---Mark_V. on 10/28/12

The term 'spiritualism' is used in so many different ways by now, with no real exact meaning, that it is hard to answer the initial question

The second question, as to whether the dead are now alive as 'spooks', in the Bible we are only a few times when the dead were brought back, sometimes as 'spirits' (as when Saul brought back the spirit of Samuel) while after Jesus died, we are told that the dead were raised, but here in their bodies (Matt 27:52-3)

But no, I have no reason to believe that
---Peter on 10/27/12

Oh, Mark V . . . that is what you think Jerry means. I totally missed that. If this is what you mean, Jerry, in Revelation 6:9-11 we see that "the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony of Jesus" are under the altar of Heaven. These are alive, and these are not spooks. These are people who have given their hearts to Jesus and their lives for Jesus. I hope you do not really mean these people are spooks or that it is spiritualism to believe that martyrs of Jesus are alive with Him. Because if ones who have died "sleep in Jesus" (in 1 Thessalonians 4:14), these are with Jesus and He is awake, in them.
---willie_c: on 10/27/12

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Jerry, I know you question blog has a very bad purpose but I will answer you anyway.
No genuine Christian believes in spiritualism. Since "Spiritualism is a belief system or religion, postulating the belief that spirits of the dead residing in the spirit world have both the ability and the inclination to communicate with the living"
We don't believe in ghost. What we do believe is that when a Christian dies, his body is dead, but his spirit goes to be with the Lord. It is not soul sleep. We do not believe the dead communicate with the living. They are physically dead, but not spiritually. Genuine believers are spiritually born of God and are baptized together into One Body in Christ forever.
---Mark_V. on 10/27/12

Let it go Jed. I responded to your spook comments. President Obama has nothing to do with this one.
---pg1 on 10/26/12

glen, what is an ac 47? do you mean ak-47?
what has that got to do with this blog? I think I missed the boat somewhere. lol
---shira4368 on 10/26/12

pg1, you have the spirit of discernment? Aren't you an Obama supporter?
---Jed on 10/26/12

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Jed,hi,its funny but I don't think I ever heard spook used as a racial slur in my whole life. I know it was used by some but evidently it is more prevalent in some parts of the country than others or perhaps it just depends on who you socialized with. I'm in Central Texas. Here a spook is a ghost.
---Darlene_1 on 10/26/12

You have made two comments about spook and it's racial connotations. Are you truly shocked or just hoping that some on this site will engage you in a evil and ungodly conversation? The spirit of discernment tells me it's the latter.
Jerry 6593
I question your motives as well especially since the term ghost would have been more appropriate.
---pg1 on 10/26/12

About if children born in Satan's kingdom have evil spirits assigned to them >
Psalm 58:3 says >

"The wicked are estranged from the womb,
.They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies."

I have seen how even a young child can already have his personality well developed for using strategy and cruelty to control people for what he wants. Such tyrannical ability can come from one of Satan's invisible mentors. And it says our warfare is not "against flesh and blood" but against the evil spiritual source, I see through Ephesians 6:10-20.

Without Jesus, we were "slaves of sin" (Romans 6:17). > "slaves have masters assigned to them".
---willie_c: on 10/26/12

I remember I heard black people refered to as "spooks", but that was a few decades ago. I can't believe someone would post this type of question on christianet in this day.
---Jed on 10/26/12

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Willie C, great answer you gave from (Eph. 2:1-3). Seems many here believe they have "free will" and can choose Christ whenever they want. They don't realize the lost
"walk to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lust of the flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others"
They are walking according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who works in the sons of disobedience, and don't even realize they are, how can they be free when they are inslave to sin?
---Mark_V. on 10/25/12

willie o i've ben reading your past bloggs, Very helpfull! i'm new at this blogging thing. It was disturbing to me to read bloggs that "marc" wrote that i didn't write! i hope people can tell the diffrence by reading what i wrote on context, some of what the other marc wrote i would never write! All glory to God (YA) !!!
---J_Marc on 10/24/12

Hi, J Marc (c: Well, I was just trying to think of a scripture for arguing myself right, but that scripture came to mind and I think is better than what I was going with!

At least one user name, here, shows more than one personality, maybe, possibly of ones who use the same computer. My name is unique enough so no one is likely to unknowingly use it. This is why, maybe, Christianet recommends we use our pen pal log-in name which has a number. But I think "J Marc" will be unique enough.
---willie_c: on 10/24/12

jed, I think you took this out of context. spook is a ghost. it isn't racial and if it was I wouldn't say it here. actually I don't get involved in ghost things. God tells us to not dance in the fire.
---shira4368 on 10/24/12

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A spook is a racist term I haven't heard for decades and I'm shocked that the moderators would post such a question.
---Jed on 10/24/12

willie o: i was ready to defend your position,yet you used the same example of Paul having a messanger of satan to keep him humble! 2 Cor 12:7 "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure."
I did blog under Marc, but some one used my name and said things iwould not say! i'm new at this!
---J_Marc on 10/23/12

I believe in the power of the AC 47 though.
---Glenn on 10/22/12

Kathy, you asked what scripture says an evil spirit is assigned to a person who is born. For starters, it says there is "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience," in Ephesians 2:2. So, it does say "the sons of disobedience" have the spirit of Satan "who works in" them. So, they have such evil attention "in" them, not only assigned to them.

We have the example of what happened with Paul > how "a messenger of Satan" was "given" to him. This shows me that Satan's kingdom can have organization which includes assigning evil spirits to individuals. But Paul, of course, overcame by God's grace > 2 Corinthians 12:9.
---willie_c: on 10/22/12

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Karen, I didn't say the person stays alive. That would be spiritualism, I understand. I said that one of Satan's evil spirits has pretended to be the person.

Also, not only does Satan's kingdom have evil spirits doing things to mess with sinners, but Paul says there is "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience," in Ephesians 2:2. So, Satan's own evil spirit is working "in" his children to get them to disobey . . . while his demons are also active.

It says this spirit "works in" ones who are disobedient.

This is in the Bible. I do not think people into spiritualism teach this.
---willie_c: on 10/21/12

the dead are dead waiting the resurrection of all 1 Corinthians 15, as this chapter describes the power of the resurrection of all at the Lords return. The immortality of the soul as taught by Satan to gentile nations was adopted by the catholic religion, although catholic religion claims Christianity its gentile practices proves it is not following the Lord Jesus. the written word of God does not refer to demons as spooks, demons are simply fallen angels and are the ministers of Satan. And his ministers influenced Plato to teach the separation of soul from the body something not found in holy word of God yet people believe Plato, not God.
---Follower_of_Christ on 10/20/12

The whole idea of an assigned demon at birth really spooks me.
---Phil on 10/20/12

Marc & Cliff: I agree. But, that's what most Christians believe - that the dead aren't really dead, they just went someplace else without their bodies (spooks).

"Witchcraft! God is extremely angry!"
---pat on 10/19/12

Yes, but that's where the false belief in the immortality of the soul leads.

---jerry6593 on 10/20/12

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It's the same lie that the serpent told Eve "You will not surely die" and from that time on people ,including evangelicals, still believe the lie!
Jesus taught death and resurrection ,not soul's immortality!
Nowhere in scripture does it state immortality of the soul (or spirit for that matter)!
---1st_cliff on 10/19/12

SPOOKS!?? The people that die are in a deep sleep! John 11:11 Lasarus was sleeping! 1 Cor 11:30 People died for not eating the Lord`s supper worthley so, many sleep! 1Cor 15:51 & 1 Thess 4:14 Are the best, We shall not all SLEEP, but Shall be changed & we shall meet the Lord in the air! " Spooks" Are familier spirits or demons that haunnt those who have heard the lies that have vexed humanity from the devil & the fallen church! Do not be deicved, THE WHOLE WORLD is under the sway Of satan!
---Marc on 10/19/12

I've never heard about every person born having an evil spirit assigned to them. Can that be backed up with scripture please?

Demons don't have to be assigned to anyone to do what they do.

And it's not the person they are bringing up either.
---kathr4453 on 10/19/12

williw_c...I know now that I need to ignore all of your posts on this blog since you are obviously into spiritualism which is witchcraft. What you posted is not only nonsense, but so far from the truth of the Word of God that you need to repent!!!!!
---KarenD on 10/19/12

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Witchcraft! God is extremely angry!
---pat on 10/19/12

I understand that when a person is born in sin, the person has one of Satan's evil spirits assigned to the person. And the evil spirit brings up the person in the evil spirit's personality. Then when the person dies, the evil spirit can easily imitate that person who had the spirit's personality. And the spirit can go on to some later poor soul and make it seem like that sinner has come back in reincarnation. But it is Satan's spirit who has come back, and messed up somebody else with its personality and problems.
---willie_c: on 10/19/12

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