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How To Pray For Enemies

Job prayed for his "friends". Jesus spoke in Matt 5:44. David prayed against his foes. I start to pray, but i really do not know what to pray for when i am praying for my "friends", those that spitefully use me, and my enemies. what do you pray?

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Mark_V, sure, you may KNOW about love, but you have not experienced genuine love. This I say because you have produced nothing but false testimony against most people on these blogs by twisting words, posts, and peoples testimony - and even scripture. You have deep hatred for others who do not conform to your ideologyand who perform criminal acts to the point of praying God to kill them.

By the way, you said "how can (the children go to Jesus) if they are murdered?" The children under the age of accountability ARE Jesus'.

Also, you said "God is our judge." True, but he is also our prosecutor, not you.

I suggest taking a six month sabbatical and read the bible from beginning to end.
---Steveng on 1/8/13


add all the drama that you want. God knows the truth.

since you want to contend that i consider you my enemy (which is hilarious), Jesus says to love your enemies, and that, brother or enemy, i do. so, tell me, where do i err?
---aka on 1/8/13

//---Peter on 1/8/13//

See your heart brother.

God bless you.

---char on 1/8/13

Bro.Mark, you are such an educated man, you can not imagine how you are sounding.Mark you say we do not. Care about children how wrong you are! I have put my life on line many times,even after retire.. God knows... I do NOT believe you realize what are saying.
all I am saying we are command by God love our enemies! We can not be the Judge jury and executioner of the evil or the good that God job! You are angry at people like us?.you need to regroup and go to the Lord on this one. I got my plate full ..

. I can enough to do & I am gratefull. You inspire me to really study the Bible and that what I am doing. I love everyone. I love peace.ELENA
---ELENA on 1/8/13

At least have the courage and the same kind of love you demand for the child murderers, to stand up for the innocent children. God is our judge. Not a one of you have spoken for the child. I am not one who have lost a child to this wicked people. But I am oppose because I stand for God and His Sovereign right to rule, and for the innocent babies aborted when they such their brains our with a vacumm, and those murdered by child pedophiles. Yes, God will judge me, not any of you with your righteous love.
---Mark_V. on 1/8/13

God bless you Aka.
Bearing false witness against another is not Love for the brethren.

Thanking God for giving you that discernment.
I too-- will leave it at that.

---char on 1/8/13

If we here are to work on this, I feel the first thing we should do is to consider those we 'class' as our enemies (those in this site) and consider whether they really are.

I see too many cases where people class someone else on this site to be their 'spiritual enemy' while as far as I can tell, the people are just misunderstanding each other.
---Peter on 1/8/13

Aka, I know a little about biblical love. I became your enemy the first time I opposed your views. You show no love for me. Yet I still love you and Char. She is my sister and you are my brother. But that kind of love is not the one Jesus was talking about.
"This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you" (John 15:12). No one has that love. Why? Because:
"Greater love has on one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends" (John 15:13).
Jesus never commands us to love the wicked child murderers. He said, to let the children go to Him, how can they if they are murdered? You oppose me because I oppose the wicked, yet you show no love for me who am your brother.
---Mark_V. on 1/8/13

//give amens for the love of the child murderers and not for the love of a child---Mark_V. on 1/8/13//
//(and not for the love of a child)--Mark_V. on 1/8/13//

Any false witness against me - I will leave it up to God.

*Praise God for discernment.

"Vengeance is Gods"
My "Amen" is placed on this----Period.

//---Steveng on 1/2/13///-------
Big thanks, had to read them again.

//---aka on 1/8/13//
May God Bless you aka :)
You are absolutely correct. The only examination that matters is Gods.
*Praise God for repentance unto remission.

I place my - Amen - on that.

---char on 1/8/13

it's not your views which are's not chars either. she posted scripture of jesus' direct qoute that says to love your enemies. how does that fit in with brothers and neighbors? once you figure that out, you may not be so hateful.
---aka on 1/8/13

Char 2, God put enmity between the children of satan and the children of God (Gen. 3:15). The children of God have nothing to do with the children of wrath. The children of God are those chosen by God from the foundation of the world, the lost sheep, and those from the other fold, the Gentiles believers. I love you but I do not agree with the views you hold for the wicked.
"By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another" (John 13:35). John said,
"We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death" (1 John 3:14). You are my sister and I do love you, but the wicked are not by brothers or sisters.
---Mark_V. on 1/8/13

Char, you oppose my views and give amens for the love of the child murderers and not for the love of a child.
Jesus said,
"You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart with all your soul, and with all your mind" (the first commandment) And the second is like it, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself' on these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets" (Matt. 22:36-40). Matthews gospel tells us the essense of the Law and the Prophets is to love God and love others. In Matthew 7:12) we see this term "the law and the Prophets" describing the word love.
"Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets"
---Mark_V. on 1/8/13

2nd posting-

////Proverbs 24:17
Proverbs 25:21
Matthew 5:44-45
Romans 12:20-17
Ephesians 4:31
1 Thessalonians 5:15
Titus 3:2
1 Peter 2:1
1 Peter 3:10

---Steveng on 1/2/13///-------------//
Wow...Love these...
Thanks for posting them.

Mat 5:43-48
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust[...]

---char on 1/7/13

//God can do anything If Any One whoevever really WANT To Change!
Ps.62:4,Rom.12:19,Lk.6:27, Phil.4:6-7 Pro.24:17,18.,Rom.13:4---ELENA on 1/6/13//
//---Phil on 1/7/13---Phil on 1/6/13//

Understood-Thanks for sharing.

---char on 1/7/13

---Steveng on 1/2/13///-------------
(Wow...Love this!
Thanks for posting.)

Mat 5:43-48
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Prov 10:12
Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.
---char on 1/7/13

2nd posting-

//---ELENA on 1/6/13//
Standing with you sister--Amen.

Prov 24:17-22
Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:

Rom 13:4
For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid, for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Phil 4:6-7
Be careful for nothing, but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.
And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
---char on 1/7/13

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I used to seek righting the wrongs done to me. I seldom got justice. I found I ended up in losing my "rights" in other ways.

I started asking God for help instead. Then God sometimes moved against my enemies for me terrifying ways. I saw that "vengeance" belongs to the Judge, not me. He will right all wrongdoings eventually.

As I began relying on God to vindicate me, I felt bad for those who offended me, and the things that happened to them.

I now pray for them and myself, that God not enter into judgment, and bring calamity on them.

I no longer want part in offenses. God will judge all things that has happened between men.

I do not want to be on the wrong side of His judgement.
---Phil on 1/7/13

Before (Jude 17-25) we hear of the judgment God will bring on the ungodly that Enoch prophesied. (14-16).
"Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam prophesied about these men also, saying,
"Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousand of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him." These are grumblers, complainers, "walking according to their own lust," and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage"

Judgment will come to those lust after children, raping, murdering little defenseless children.
---Mark_V. on 1/7/13

//---ELENA on 1/6/13//
Standing with you sister---


Ps 62:4
They only consult to cast him down from his excellency: they delight in lies: they bless with their mouth, but they curse inwardly. Selah.

Rom 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord.

Lk 6:27-30
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
---char on 1/6/13

Thankyou,Shira4368, that was my know that I may not correct know how to put my words. You are correct, that my point It took me many years, I will talk a little bout it, I think be carefull how I express ( do not want to be too graphic or offend anyone. I was eh, hidnap, beaten, all the rest.... lot of bad happen to me, also, you know she who raise me , ill the phychiatrist.said.
So I had bad life. I had more
happen...long story,(the guy is dead) anyway you may or may not know alot of druggies, crack those type of offences... have known 2. People who God Gave Complete Deliverance...they are help here others..NO Longer abuse not on drugs! Praise God!
---ELENA on 1/6/13

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sis elena, I have had a hard time with forgiving some things that has affected me and my children. I am trying so hard to get over some things in my life. I give it to Jesus in prayer but I find myself picking it up again. I am praying hard about this. I know what you are going thru. God bless you
---shira4368 on 1/6/13

,Thankyou Char,kind words & encouragement. I remain focused. To Bro.Mark /Long story ...
God dealt with me personally, HE let me know If I really was going to come back & serve Him. First put away. ALL HATE! Hate poisons our brain, heart.etc. Let God do what He has to Do! in a time of pure brokeness & wickedness God Can do more than we can imagine. It took me many years to learn TO FORGIVE & leave the past alone. God can do anything If Any One whoevever really WANT To Change!
Ps.62:4,Rom.12:19,Lk.6:27, Phil.4:6-7 Pro.24:17,18.,Rom.13:4

Important for me to really delve & study the scriptures. I am doing that.even when it pain. God is good.
He took me through alot. Love of Jesus!
---ELENA on 1/6/13

Jude 1:17-25 (all)


Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever.

---char on 1/6/13

Jude 1:17-25 (all)
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ,

How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

And of some have compassion, making a difference:

And others save with fear, (pulling them out of the fire,

hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.)

---char on 1/6/13

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The never ending struggle, to right the wrongs done to us. My new boss is a micro-manager. Making issues where there are none, in order to exaggerate his importance.

"I hate him", I said in my heart. "He's useless".

After one particularly difficult confrontation, I prayed for help to avoid losing my job.

"I want you to help this man succeed. I want you to give your best for his benefit."

This is what God commanded me to do. I was shocked and dismayed. I obeyed him, and peace has come between us. The hate is gone, and things are going smoothly, while everyone else is in a tither about him yet.

God will make a way.
---Phil on 1/6/13

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Joshua 5:13-15

13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?

14 And he said, Nay, but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?

15 And the captain of the Lord's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot, for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.
---char on 1/6/13

Vengence belongs only to God. And that is what I pray for God. No children deserve to die such a cruel death. Millions are missing and millions are murdered each day. God knows what is inside our hearts. If anyone of you has a child, and he is taken, raped, beaten, and murdered, thrown in the woods, are buried, you cannot tell me you love that person. Or that you do not wish him to be dead so that he does not hurt another innocent child. Because if you do, then something is really wrong with you in your head. Only the just deserve to live. Vengence is of the Lord, I am not asking God for permission to kill him, I am asking God to get rid of the cancer by killing him so that no more innocent little girls or boys ever get murdered by them.
---Mark_V. on 1/6/13

//ELENA on 1/5/13//---Amen Elena,
Upon repentance in the Name given (Ysha/Jesus- God Savior), is Forgiveness. Wages for that sin - deemed -paid/complete/finished.

God as Father testifies of His Son, His Word that became flesh and dwelt among us - Immanuel. Christ is Gods Word Anointed/testified/confirmed.

First advent was "to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord" Is 61:1-4, Luke 4:18-19
[...]And he closed the book,------ and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Matt 24, Mk 13, Lk 21 (acceptable year of His return)
Vengeance is His.
---char on 1/5/13

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Hello,Sis.Shira, thanks for get back.I been study on this subject all day. I guess be honest,some years ago I hated too, these people but I know me personaly God dealt with me about this. I did. No say to be cruel. always every church way back I was told No Matter what we are to " love our enemies!" So, that stuck in my mind. However, really been probably say since 2003 that it really got into my mind about forgiveness, love not hate, God dealt with me about. Don't. hate your enemies. I respect you all, ELENA not perfect. I just believe God took that weight off of me. I believe God He knows the pain parents, relatives, or who ever have to hurt from people like that. GOD will handle them. I leave it at that.
---ELENA on 1/5/13

elena, I don't wish anyone dead. what I said is before a preditor rapes or hurts a child, I wish him dead. I won't change my opinion either. a woman on the news beat her son in the head with a hammer and then tried to revive him in a tub with water. he died 5 days later in the hospital. He was 6 years old. both her and her boyfriend need to die. the judge ordered her not to even go to his grave if ever she got out of prison. she can't even contact her other 5 children. good for the judge. I have no tolerance for someone who hurts a child.
---shira4368 on 1/5/13

Steven G, before you judge, you and others who oppose getting rid of the child molesters, read the Bible.

"But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shall save alive nothing that breatheth, but thou shall utterly destroy them." (Deut. 20:16-17).
Jesus (God) was talking about man, woman and children. This nations had become a moral cancer, threatening the very life of the whole human race. That cancer had to be cut off for the servival of mankind. Here, the wicked child murderers should be put to death for the servival of the innocent children. The cutting of the cancer is the kindest thing God can do for the children, and I have every right to pray for that.
---Mark_V. on 1/5/13

Brothers & Sisters, will tell you never much talk about it. Truth I have known such a person.Nobody knew for years and long story short be honest God is the just judge! He will seek and do revenge on these type people. This person died very inusual excrusiating death & it was God' judgement. They got killed by complete stranger out of no where. So believe me God does His own work. Myself, was shock when I found out. I have peace because God took care of it. Myself, I never wish anyone dead. Show me verses where we to wish somebody dead?
---ELENA on 1/4/13

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Bro.Steveng, yes, that what I love about the Lord God we do not have to hate no one! God hand is not short. He beholds his eyes see all the evil and the good. So I love now people who when I was in my crazyness .. I can love every one even those who do not like me. Even those who dispise me. I still have to love them! I have to love them out of God's my heart. I am not special, I was wrapped in sins. God is love. His word vengence is mine I will repay! Love of Jesus!
---ELENA on 1/4/13

Mark_V.: "Steven g, What you are saying is, you want the child murders to live..."

It seems you have a habit of putting words into people's mouths that are not true and twisting posts to appease your evil heart. I've said this once to you and I'll say it a thousand times if needed: you must study the entire bible, not just read it or skip parts that do not conform to your worldly thoughts.

The bible tells you how criminals should be treated - search the scriptures and read about it. As a christian, you should never wish a person dead or even pray to God to kill that criminal. That's an evil thought and you should be ashamed.
---Steveng on 1/4/13

I realize how hard it is for most christians to speak evil of another especially rapists and child molesters, but to actually pray to God to have that person killed is surely not christian. There are verses in the bible that warn us about that - and how criminals should be sentenced. You cannot have hatred in your heart and expect the Holy Spirit to reside in it.

You need to remember that we are on this earth a short period of time. Since we have entered the last days things will get even uglier. Ten thousand people will die on your left, ten thousand will die on your right, but do not be afraid. If the dead victims are children or christians they are under the alter of God saying, "How long, O Lord..." Revelation 6:9-11
---Steveng on 1/4/13

//---aka on 1/2/13//---understood/// ...Joshua 5:13-15, Heb 4:14-16,Jude 17-25
---char on 1/3/13

great verses indeed.

like a stray dog circling the master's table (not trusting anyone there but the master).... he boldly runs up to the master and yelps, "bark, bark, bark, bark!"

(Good thing I know street is translated as "Thy will be done!")

and he goes back to circling.
---aka on 1/4/13

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steveng, I find it hard to not wish a child molester or rapist dead. they can never be rehabilitated and that is a proven fact. their only hope is Jesus Christ but before they hurt a precious child, I wish them dead. children are a gift from God and they are at the mercy of their parents or babysitter or the world in general. It is our responsibility to protect our children. I cannot imagine anyone raping a child or hurting a child. my grand daughter had a baby boy who was so precious and her boyfriend broke its ribs and burned it with a cigarette. he went to prison and I hope he rots there. the precious little boy has been adopted by a family who will give him a chance.
---shira4368 on 1/4/13

Steven G, I pray like David in (Psa.58). As soon as people are born they are totally depraved. Without being made new creatures in Christ by God's power, they are prevented by their wicked nature from pleasing God ( Ps. 51:5: Rom. 3:9-18: 2 Cor. 5:17). There words and actions are as poison towards man, like the posion of a snake, Lord distroy the teeth in their mouths. let them be as grass that dies after people walk on it. Why should I love them for doing what they do to helpless children? Raping them and many times murdering them, children who are just beginning to learn about life, at the mercy of the wicked murderers you seem to love.
God does command me to love my brother. The righteous will be happy when God punishes the wicked.
---Mark_V. on 1/4/13

Steven g, What you are saying is, you want the child murders to live longer so they can molest, rape and kill as many children as they want, because sometime in the future, they will use their free will in order to be forgiven? That's what your saying.
I say get rid of them, you say, don't get rid of them because that is not loving. Say to the parent who has lost a child, or saw the pictures of their 5 or 6 year old girl or boy murdered and rape. The wicked are wicked and they will have to answer to God. The just are not counted as the wicked. As long as they are wicked, they will continue to murder children. Who are you defending? The child or the child murderer? It is your mind that's evil. You want more children to be murdered and raped.
---Mark_V. on 1/4/13

josef on 12/28/12//--a blessing indeed.

The Serenity Prayer (in full)

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.

Living one day at a time, Enjoying one moment at a time, Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace, Taking, as He did, this sinful world
as it is, not as I would have it, Trusting that He will make all things right if I surrender to His Will, That I may be reasonably happy in this life and supremely happy with Him Forever in the next.

--Reinhold Niebuhr
---aka on 1/3/13

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//---aka on 1/2/13//---understood/// ---josef on 12/28/12//--a blessing indeed.

Got it.
Here are a few things that often come to mind,

Joshua 5:13-15, Heb 4:14-16,Jude 17-25

God Bless...

---char on 1/3/13

char, between you and josef, that is what keeps coming out. i don't go any farther than that. no matter how i start out, that is what i get to.

people talk about praying all night...early morning for an hour. i just don't do that. i just think about what the Lord has written.

i do ask that i see through His eyes. i am getting better at going to Him and leaving my anxieties instead of taking it back.

willie, i do not mean that it is not sincere milk. but, without forgiveness, no matter what good you do, you do not have Christ Jesus. thu, it is basic to a christian. the next (super)natural step is to pray for others deliverance and salvation (including your own.)

i just want to know what others pray about.
---aka on 1/2/13

Mark_V.: "I believe those people should suffer the worst punishment. I pray that God stops them and kills them before they rape, murder or hurt another child again."

How do you expect people to believe anything you post or say when you have such hatred in your heart, eh? How do you expect Holy Spirit to reside in you when you have such hatred in your heart? Your evil thoughts defile you, Mark.

Proverbs 24:17
Proverbs 25:21
Matthew 5:44-45
Romans 12:20-17
Ephesians 4:31
1 Thessalonians 5:15
Titus 3:2
1 Peter 2:1
1 Peter 3:10
---Steveng on 1/2/13

Jesus prayed, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do." (in Luke 23:34) I don't think what Jesus did was milk! And people who called for His crucifixion were also saying, "His blood be on us and our children." (in Matthew 27:25) So, these included moms and dads who were betraying their own children, not only violating them but trying to curse them from Jesus. But Jesus prayed forgiveness.

In a personal problem with someone, I need to first simply submit to God so I myself am how He rules me to be in His peace. Then discover how well He has me taking care of a problem with someone . . . with Him creating what is good (c: Colossians 3:15 > obey God and find out what He has us doing in His peace (c:
---willie_c: on 1/2/13

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Here what I pray with a complete "Adamant trust," that He knows best.

"God's will be done"

God bless you Aka.
---char on 1/2/13

shira and others,

it is not about forgiveness and salvation. that is a given. i can't use more than so many words to ask a question.

i have explained a little earlier.
---aka on 1/2/13

Aka, As believers we now have access to God in the Spirit. Prayer is our communication with God. God doesn't mind what we ask Him, or even if we are mad at something. He always hears us and knows what is in our hearts before we even speak. That should not stop us from asking and complaining. The more we pray the more in communion we are with Him. I pray for everyone of my brothers and sisters here, who are struggling, with family, with health, with food or pain. But I am sincere since He knows what I believe and feel inside my heart. I have no sympathy for those who rape and murder children. I believe those people should suffer the worst punishment. I pray that God stops them and kills them before they rape, murder or hurt another child again.
---Mark_V. on 1/2/13

aka, just pray that God will save them. even our worst enemies need prayer. I pray they will be saved or be destroyed before they all get over here and start chopping heads off. I have children and grandchildren that I worry about. it is coming too and it isn't too far away either.
---shira4368 on 1/1/13

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We can pray for justice OR GRACE. WE CAN PLAY GOD OR REMEMBER THE WOMAN WHO was caught in adultery he who does not ave a sin let him cast the first stone
---Frannie on 12/31/12

aka, You can also pray for their soul-Salvation.
---Gordon on 12/31/12

I have been on here for three years, and most everbody is still in a continual milk-food fight. i pray forgiveness ... i pray for others salvation.

again, the question is what do you pray?

Read Josef's answer. He told me how he prays. That's what I asked.
---aka on 12/31/12

aka, You can also pray for their soul-Salvation.
---Gordon on 12/31/12

Aka, You could pray to have those stumbling blocks, both "friends" and "enemies", removed from your life. Yet for me, when I faced a similar situation, before I finished asking, the answer was "My grace is sufficient for you". However for you, the answer could be totally different. You could also rely on Rom 8:26-27. This I have always found to be an excellent prayer for my state of mind. "LORD give me the humility to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."
---Josef on 12/31/12

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everyone, again, forgiveness is not the issue. dealing with the on-going behavior is.

just like david, who had saul dead to rights at one point, let saul live and still had to run instead of simply killing him. forgiveness was already in his heart.

the question is what do you pray and not what i should do or need to do. thanks to those who answer the question. for everyone else, let's feed on something other than milk.
---aka on 12/30/12

"you might want to learn the ways of the Lord before you teach anyone else. find me anywhere in the bible that it says that salvation is because of us." aka

Well spoken. And Scripture supports,

"Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord God, I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them, and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes."
Ezekiel 36:22,23
---christan on 12/31/12

"If one cannot forgive his enemy, how is God ever going to forgive you of your sins?" steveng

How can the sinner even begin to forgive another sinner if he has not receive mercy and grace from God first? God doesn't forgive you because you have forgiven another person. Or that would make Him obligated to forgive you because you have forgiven another sinner like you.

God is not obligated to the creature He has created. Or do you not know that? It is written, "And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing" Daniel 4:35
---christan on 12/31/12

steveng, from "Founding USA Christian Ideas"

//if what you say is true then why go out preaching the gospel?//

we are but broken vessels that the Lord works through and not because of. i did not say not to teach...teaching is best through words that follow actions. we usually do the opposite.

//People save. What person saved you from spiritual destruction, aka?// Jesus. //How many people have you save from destruction?// none...if jesus does through me...good. //Save yourselves from this untoward generation.// let jesus save you from yourself.

you might want to learn the ways of the Lord before you teach anyone else. find me anywhere in the bible that it says that salvation is because of us.
---aka on 12/30/12

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bro.Steveng, I tell you that woman story impact/ english you say had such effect on my life! I kept that story from old magazine God use it touch my I never told online but someone close. yes! It very hard but he had a drug habbit,plan & long time ago now but ' had a hand they said in killing my late mother.It was a hard process hurt, anger, pain but yes I forgave him. God is still good. Thankyou. Love of JESUS!
---ELENA on 12/30/12

Elena, there are many nonchristians who have never heard of Jesus, but do right because they feel in their heart it's the right thing to do. These people, even though they are not christian, will be resurrected at the end of the thousand year of Christ and judged according to what they did on earth.
---Steveng on 12/30/12

Thankyou bro.Steveng for verses have copied them down. for a long time a letter a young woman was ethiopian I believe and she begged the people caught with her, 1 thing she said made the difference between life & death. She said that she decided " to forgive her captures,she was not a christian but, she grew up a moslem but no longer because how women mistreated but " If we forgive our enemy it may go well.Stop the war.'
End of story.She was the only one left alive. Erithrea was their enemy
the king was impressed by her courage! She later became a christian. Help people in Erithrea.Africa
---ELENA on 12/30/12

If one cannot forgive his enemy, how is God ever going to forgive you of your sins? Many cannot forgive their enemies because of bitterness, hatred, malice, and anger against that person who has done wrong.

There are many verses about forginving your enemies. Here are a few:
Matthew 6:14-15
Colossians 3:13
Mark 11:25
Ephesians 4:31-32
Matthew 5:43-48
Matthew 18:15
Ephesians 4:31
Proverbs 10:12
---Steveng on 12/29/12

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thank you for the lesson.
---aka on 12/29/12

hello,bro.Willie, good post + guess what? Sometimes ELENA too, her own worst enemy.when I read it
like I always believe I am not perfect nor divine.however, if I did not have such a great loving Heavenly Father & our family CNT.
Could be lots worse! Thank the Lord for all He doing with me! Bless you & everyone. For 2013.
---ELENA on 12/29/12

"there are plenty of other blog questions on which you can be adversarial." aka

All because I corrected you about the use of the word "enemy" in respect to the Bible?

You asked "was Jesus talking to God? who's the enemy of the Word?" after quoting Matthew 5:44. Jesus was talking to the Christians is obvious and the enemies mentioned here are those who hate Jesus Christ and are enemies of God. And not the USA or it's allies.

Now you see where I'm going about the word "enemy" is being used loosely with respect to quoting the Scriptures? So, everyone until they are called by God is an "enemy" to Him.
---christan on 12/29/12

Mary, I really can sympsthize but, remember your situation to me personally, you are right! I can not imagine your pain & so, my situation way different I have had alot of people who have stolen from me. That a lot different, even M' I always had ask prayer she got up like others, I didn't tell no one but she stole my coat. She on crack or something. I just pray for her, it's crazy! She reminds me of my adopted mother.She is mean & love be just having a good time.I refuse to visit her.I am shock to find out their family are christians! She says she don't trust christians who are for real.
---ELENA on 12/29/12

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...So, I can be the enemy who needs prayer.
---willie_c: on 12/28/12

willie, i chewed on this since i read it yesterday. it has even more flavor than it did yesterday. it hit me...i can be my own worst enemy.

forgiveness of the past is not a problem. it is the present that is the issue. david did have a chance to end it all, but he had forgiveness and mercy in his heart.

so, i think his issue is the same. but, david did not hold back on his prayers. in hebrews, believers are told to approach the throne boldly, so that is what i will do.
---aka on 12/29/12

Yes, aka, I have noticed how David prayed curses against enemies . . . even though Jesus says, "bless those who curse you," in Matthew 5:44. And Jesus did pray, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do." (in Luke 23:34) He was praying forgiveness to them while they still were busy hating and murdering Jesus, and possibly could care less about being forgiven.

So . . . Jesus knows what works (c: That prayer could send out the power of love to change those people. And that "thief on the cross" then gave himself to Jesus . . . after that prayer > Luke 23:34-43. So, what matters is what you send in your prayer (c: Send what can change the person to be how God wants, and make sure this is in you!
---willie_c: on 12/29/12

Please christan, i am genuinely trying to work through something.

//The "enemy" cited in Scripture points to one who's an "enemy" of God, not man.//

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,

was Jesus talking to God? who's the enemy of the Word?

//The word "enemy" is loosely used here.//

i am using this in this context that it is used: ekh-thros'...hateful (passively odious, or actively hostile), an adversary.

there are plenty of other blog questions on which you can be adversarial.
---aka on 12/29/12

The word "enemy" is loosely used here. The "enemy" cited in Scripture points to one who's an "enemy" of God, not man. And ALL are enemies of God, until He calls the sinner into the fellowship of Jesus Christ.

The Christian will always be reminded by the Spirit and always be mindful that he too was once an enemy of God, until mercy and grace from God came upon him through faith in Jesus Christ.

And if such a merciful and gracious act from God can befall a wretched sinner like the Christian before he was called, think not it's impossible this can also happen to one who's an enemy of the Word. For we do not know who God has elected but He was foretold us explicitly that He has elected.
---christan on 12/28/12

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I've sometimes prayed for my brother's killer to receive salvation--and sometimes I have to forgive him "70 x 7"! It's not an emotion with me, but obedience the best I know how.
---Mary on 12/28/12

To pray for enemies, first you must be humble and forgive them, so that you can honestly say for God to bless them. The best example of this is my friend after his wife left him and seeing the change in him from a standpoint of anger towards her to peace.
---Scott1 on 12/28/12

I admit I am not loving like I need to be in order to pray for people who are a problem for me. And I offer myself to God for correction.

What has helped is to have hope for any person, and believe God is able to change the person to do better . . . and/or to change me to see the person better! (c:

I can be paranoid and not understand a person right. Then, after God gets me in His peace, I can see how God was using the person to do what is better than I had the character to understand . . . like how Jesus did good but ones of wrong nature saw Him the wrong way.

So, I can be the enemy who needs prayer.
---willie_c: on 12/28/12

Trying hard/ android trouble. Well, 1st Lord I come ask first help me pray the prayer of faith, faith we both forgive & forget. Please shed your light on ( his or her life). Many have stolen from me.Lord if they could only ask? Please heal our heartd because whem all said/ done we need you in our friendd & neighbors to love like you love
IF only they would ask & not feel thry hsvd to steal.I've always been a giver.Renew a right spirit in me that I may always be forgiving as you have forgiven me JESUS name. Love of JESUS!

---ELENA on 12/28/12

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"what do you pray?" "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do." Luk 23:34 However Aka, as you pray this prayer, be ready and willing to forgive them, otherwise it is best to keep the prayer to yourself.
---josef on 12/28/12

Something that someone said on this matter.

Love is not merely a friendly feeling.

True love goes to the cross for one's neighbor, be he friend or foe.

Christ is born! Glorify Him!
---Cluny on 12/27/12

Ask God to save them and grant them health and prosperity and all things that are in His perfect will for them.

And ask God to give you perfect love for them.

How's that?

Christ is born! Glorify Him!
---Cluny on 12/27/12

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