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Why do things keep coming back, after we are forgiven, or after we forgive and try to forget?

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 ---willie_c: on 11/25/13
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satan will keep throwing all you did or will do in your face. don't let him do that to you. he does it to me too but I try hard not to let him.
---shira4368 on 5/9/14

Dear Willie,
I believe you are talking about forgiving someone for something they did, and later that sin against you keeps coming back, and your anger returns.
If your anger returns, that only means you have not truly forgiven the person. Because true forgiveness, never again mentions the same sin. Jesus said that the sins He forgave you of He will remember them no more. Agape
---Luke on 5/9/14

Hello, family, you know what? To God be the glory, sometimes I can't sleep but, the Lord will lead me all over Cnt.
God will lead me into like a study or help me, some area where I need a word from the Lord. I have my Bible a longside. Thankyou, Jesus!
Bless our internet home family with new comers.. In Jesus name.
Is. 55:6
Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 5/7/14

The Power is in your on words. If you are a believe in Christ Jesus. This is what is in you in side of you right now this very second. The same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lives in your mortal body. Romans 8:11. Learn to sow the Gospel and the kaoz will stop. Because you reap what you sow. The word works according to how you sow it in your life. James chapter 3 said, "Your tongue is what sets the course of your life". Sowing the Gospel it will stop the "coming backs" of the kaoz.
---BRYAN on 1/19/14

Hello,Bro.WillieC. all respect to you.God is awesome!!
the Lord has dealt with me,yes!
when we keep going over this same issue (the past) returns hurt,anger & unforgiveness, torment our selves!
Pr10:12 Pr.15:13
we got to let it go! In Jesus there is NO torment.You just get back into the peace of God, you be fine! Pr.16:3
---Lidia4796 on 12/10/13

Sowing and reap is the Gospel. If your reaping old bad seed sown, Change your seeds, start sowing good news into peoples life and you will start growing it in yours, stop judging people. Your sowing judgment so you will reap judgment. If you sow the Gospel it will become your harvest which will be good. Jesus saves not by condemning people but by blessing they with the power to be free form the laws of sin and death.
---BRYAN on 12/8/13

"Why do things keep coming back, after we are forgiven, or after we forgive and try to forget?"
Because the principle of seed time and harvest is in effect, and "God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap." As I have said so often, the harvest is always greater than the seed.
---Josef on 12/1/13

Willie_c, It's Biblical that we reap what we sow. GOD forgives, but the consequences naturally remain.
GOD can prevent the consequences, but only as HE sees fit.
Most of the time, HE lets the consequences run their course 'cause HE knows that we learn better through adversity.
Bad consequences can happen as a result of our own sins, and GOD knows that letting us experience the consequences better teaches us to not commit such sin again.
It's chastening from the LORD. Good for those who learn by it, and are not embittered by it.
Proverbs 3:11-12.
King David loved GOD and GOD loved him, yet he had to experience the painful consequences of his sins.
He was not spared just because he was a "man after GOD's own Heart".
---Gordon on 12/1/13

I suppose now you want me to believe Santa Claus really doesn't exist, nor Rudolph and all the other reindeer? I gotta tell you, I have never heard of the Christmas Christ, but I know the song. Christmas Christ is coming to town. He knows when you are sleeping! That is so cool, I've got to remember that, the Christmas Christ!

This is exactly why I offered 1Kings_18 earlier!
If people want to believe in the Christmas Christ, Santa Claus, Rudolph or even in Bernie! I can do nothing.

If they ask me, I will tell them. There is only one God.
If they don't believe me, I will tell them again.
If they still don't believe me, I will say the magic word. "Act_1:4"
---TheSeg on 11/30/13

To believe in Christ, is to believe that He's God. And we have been commanded, "Thou shalt have none other gods before me... Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God"

Do bear in mind that the Christmas christ is celebrated and loved by the whole world (unbelievers and all - even though they hate the preaching of Him on a daily basis) at this period of merry-making, John warned, "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him." 1 John 2:15.

---christan on 11/30/13

That would depend on whether, I believed Christ is about Christmas or Christmas is about Christ. Wouldnt it?
Do I celebrate Christmas because people believe its his birthday or because people believe he was born? And if they believe he was, shouldnt I celebrate?

Luke_2:8,18-20 is not just a fulfillment of prophesies in the OT, but an actual celebration of his birth.
Luk_2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

I put Psalm_113:1,135:1, because of
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
Praising his name is never in vain, on any day, even Christmas!
Luk_24:26? Peace
---TheSeg on 11/30/13

I do hope by the mercy and grace of God that when one is quoting Luke 2:8, 18-20, Psalm 113:1, 135:1 - that you are not suggesting that this is about Christmas. All I see and understand from these verses is it describes the fulfillment of the prophesies in the OT about the coming Messiah.

And if God wanted us to "celebrate" His "birthday", I'm sure He would have "penned" it down in the Holy Bible and tell us to call it "Christmas" (which btw is coined by the Vatican).

Anyways, what has being "merry and celebratory" to do with our Savior? Have you not read, "He is despised and rejected of men, a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief..." Isaiah 53:3?
---christan on 11/29/13

Joh_13:12 So after he had washed their feet, and had taken his garments, and was set down again, he said unto them, Know ye what I have done to you?

Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well, for so I am.
If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet, ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord, neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.
If ye know these things, happy are ye if ye do them.

Forgive and ye shall be forgiven!
---TheSeg on 11/27/13

Luk_2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
Luk_2:18 And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds.

Luk_2:19 But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.
Luk_2:20 And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them.

Psa_113:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise, O ye servants of the LORD, praise the name of the LORD.
Psa_135:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the name of the LORD, praise him, O ye servants of the LORD.

Now mind you, I am not telling anyone to celebrate!
---TheSeg on 11/27/13

Bro. Willie, you ask:
"Why do things keep coming back, after we are forgiven, or after we forgive and try to forget?".
I believe the problem comes back when one of the two has not really forgiven. They might say they have, but in reality they haven't.
When one forgives, the subject never comes back again. Of course you still remember it, but you never bring up again. I had that experience and when I said I forgave her, I never brought it back again. It was gone as far as I was concern. When we don't forgive, the one that is effected is us if we do not forgive. The other person might not even know anything, but it is eating you up.
---Mark_V. on 11/27/13

Question - are we even told by the Scriptures that we are to even celebrate the birth of Christ? Some may say, if we are not told in the Bible doesn't mean we can't celebrate it since there's no instructions to not do it. But is it true that there's no instruction?

How about, "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."

And what was Paul's specific instruction to Christians? "For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord."
---christan on 11/26/13

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"For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matthew 12:37
And it's so true right!

This is why one should be very specific on the wording they use. Like when someone says I'm celebrating the birth of Christ. Be it whatever day of the year it is!

Now say, it happens to fall on a day some believe is a pagan holiday. And some believe I'm celebrating a pagan holiday. I can't help what people believe!

Now I don't hold anything against anybody who doesn't want to celebrate the birth of Christ on the 25th. For fear of some pagan belief they have.

I guess all I can do is remind them of the story in 1Kings 18!
---TheSeg on 11/26/13

Accusations are based on judgment and being judgemental is a sin, says Christ.

Now, if there's no mention in the Bible that Christ was born on a specific day and time - and you think it's alright to pick a day out of the blue to claim it's His birthday and proceed to celebrate it, what are you celebrating? The birthday or the lie?

Am I being judgemental here? Or am I speaking the Truth of the Word? Anyways birthday celebrations in the Bible (two specifically) mentioned were those of pagan kings - Pharaoh and Herod. Go figure why the Bible reveals it as such.

"For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matthew 12:37
---christan on 11/26/13

Cluny, I know it was Mr. J, who said "Forgive (us) Lord of these abominations."
The one accusing (us/me) of committing abominations against God, on December 25!
But not just him all these people that think celebrating the birth of Christ is a sin.
Or celebrating any holiday is a sin!

And this goes way be on just holidays!
You people that think, because you stop committing a particular sin or even two or three or ten!
Do you now think you righteous before God?

Just look at the way you are accusing other people of doing the things you think, you don't do!
You are doing the very things God is warning/telling you not to do!
You all are the accuser!
---TheSeg on 11/26/13

\\The celebration of Christ birthday is not an abomination.\\

I never said it was.

I said that j was the abomination.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/26/13

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I really like this question, and so far I like Cluny answer the best!
I look at it like this.
Mat_6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

Mat_6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
Mat_6:15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Mat_18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not (everyone his brother their trespasses.)

Heb_10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Isn't it?
---TheSeg on 11/26/13

---j on 11/25/13

Or you can enjoy them with Christ and christian fellowship.
---Scott1 on 11/26/13

Cluny, don't be so blunt about abominations. The celebration of Christ birthday is not an abomination. I do know it has become the time when people spend way too much .money for things that most people don't want. If I send a Christmas card to someone, I always sign it happy birthday Jesus. It may not even be Jesus birthday. The older I get the less I buy gifts. It has become an abomination for sure.
---shira4368 on 11/26/13

Thank you, Lidia.

j, we forgive you for being an abomination.

Now, what does your boasting of your abominations have to do with the subject of this blog?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/25/13

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To Bro.Cluny excellante answer, that you have given.All respect to you brother. Love of Jesus!

also Bro.Cluny..
Thankyou for your prayer,surgery done. No colon cancer! Thank the Lord!
---Lidia4796 on 11/25/13

j on 11/25/13: Do you consider it a sin to celebrate Christ's birthday on the wrong day if you know it is the wrong day.

Yes, we were not told to, but neither were we told not to
---Peter on 11/25/13

Our Father in Heaven,
It was a public sin, so i pray pubicaly.
i humbly confess and beg forgiveness for me, my Father, and Grand Fathers of our disobedience to you and your word.

Christmas trees we put up,

giving Santa lists of things we wanted but did't need,

teaching our children songs that teach lies,

gluttonizing our selves at the festivities,

putting up the mistletoe,

celebrating the birthday of Christ when you never commanded it.

Forgive us Lord of these abominations.

i repent!

In the name of the one true Christ, Yashua the Anointed Messiah, the real Jesus, Amen
---j on 11/25/13

I will say what I've said before.

Forgiveness is like peeling an onion. You peel and peel and cry and cry--and then there's a new layer.

But always the first thing is the WILL to forgive. That's the first step, and you just have to keep on walking.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/25/13

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