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Can Christians Have Demons

Can a christian have a demon?

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Satan's job is to steal,kill,and destroy but God gave us power against him. The Bible says we have power over all the power of the enemy that means we have a weapon to fight the devils henchmen/demons which try to lead us astray with bad thoughts. First I command the devil to leave me alone for it is written in the Word of God I have the power over all of his power. We are to fight them by rebuking them in Jesus name,call the operating demon by name and order them to the realm of darkness and bind them there in the name of Jesus. We don't take the devils tricks lying down we fight with the weapons of our warfare faith and the Holy Ghost in the name of Jesus. No demons can't get in a Holy Ghost filled Christian. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 7/14/14

Hello,Sis.Carla, all respect, bless you, certainly, agree 100%..
Call upon the name which is above every name Jesus Christ!
Plead the Blood of Jesus!

Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 7/14/14

People say can a christian have a demon,

Our fight is against evil Ephesians, Psalms 91:5 tells us about the ranks and don't forget it also says God is above them all who protects us against them.

Therefore christian's can be affected by demon activity but if you are a practicing, bible reading person, these things cannot mess with you.

Now you know ...not today, may be before but not after you know and Now... NOT EVER !!! because they are subjected to the power of Christ which is in you, just call on his name resist them and they flee!
---Carla on 7/13/14

1 Corinthians 6:20 "For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."
1 Corinthians 7:23 "Ye are bought with a price, be not ye the servants of men."

definition of "bought"

to acquire possession, ownership, or rights to the use or services of by payment especially of money

Once more, based on Romans 6:16, "Were those two posessed?" (Hymenaeus and Alexander, 1 Timothy 1:18_20).

Samuelbb7, do you believe the Bible is open to private interpretation?
---Nana on 4/9/14

If you believe once saved always saved then no they were not.

But if you believe that a person can lose their Salvation and the HOLY SPIRIT depart from then. Then they could be or they just could be evil men.

---Samuelbb7 on 4/9/14

1 Timothy 1:18_20 "This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare, Holding faith, and a good conscience, which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme."

Were those two posessed?
Romans 6:16 "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey, whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"
---Nana on 4/8/14

If a person is filled with the HOLY SPIRIT after being Born Again a Demon cannot live there.

They can still bother us.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/8/14

I know Jesus and the Apostles cast out demons. These were signs and wonders to testify to the power of God and open people's eyes to the Gospel. It appears, and I may be wrong, but it was done before one got saved, and then got saved as a result of the witness and power of the moment. I wish I could find a verse....and if there is, please show me, of one being possessed after, and being exorcized after?

The real POWER TODAY is the power of the CROSS, in that we need to tell the WHOLE GOSPEL, that our old Adam was crucified with Christ, and that satan has no more power over our old DEAD MAN. And the victory OVER ALL SIN is walking in the Spirit of the new man IN CHRIST.
---kathr4453 on 4/8/14

Micha....that was too funny!

Actually after reading the sword and the switchblade, by Dave Wilkerson..I think that is his name, it appears he witnessed to those on the streets who were drug attics, and alcoholics, and he seemed to believe they were possessed, and that the demons didn't just get up and walk away once someone got saved. Today we seem to be far more sophisticated in thought by going to rehab, using self effort to control the addictions.

So, it is an area I can't say for sure if one is possessed before salvation, what happens after that one is saved.
---kathr4453 on 4/7/14

Can a christian have a demon?-Dr._David on 1/29/14
I'm not sure if a christian would want one.
They are awefully hard to take care of.
Very hard to train.
The leash and license laws get confusing.
Very expensive when they eat your neighbors pets.
Oh yeah, watch out for them possessing others.
More than likely invite thieves into your house rather than scare them away.
All-in-all, not a good choice for a christian to have.
Try a cat or a dog.
---micha9344 on 4/7/14

Dear Samuel, thank you brother, the same to you. Agape
---Luke on 3/13/14

Yes Luke I would love to give you a hug.

GOD be with you and keep you.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/12/14

To all, Satan been around a long time. He knows when how - distractions to trample our faith,our hope,etc..
people even (christians )tell me all the trouble here...maybe some "voodoo" put down.. Deu.18:9-12
I saw a clip about how rich,all the wonderfull housds and land,etc... riches a famous woman evangelist
Some TV ministries People have made " idols" out of them.
That seems demonic to me..but, their eyes will be opened,too! Sooner or later. Rom.1:25 Ps. 115:3-8.
---Lidia4796 on 3/12/14

Dear Samuel,
the good thing is that we agree with so many things already. We are not going to agree on every detail because everyone is taught by different people in life.
But I know if I met you in person, we would first hug each other. When I meet a Christian, it is always a great joy. I right away feel we are of the same family. That is what's important. The love of Christ is found in all brothers and sisters. When we hear a person speak, we can tell if they are from God or not by their very words. If they speak of God, they are of God, if they speak and accuse, they are not of God. Agape
---Luke on 3/8/14

Dear Luke

We agree that Christians who are filled with the HOLY SPIRIT cannot be possessed by a demon. We agree that people can be in a church and not truly be a Christian.

That is the topic of this site. I must agree always with the words of Scripture. I do not agree with the once saved always saved understanding. But that is for a different site to discuss.

---Samuelbb7 on 3/6/14

"We had a pair of "railer" demons which as a matter of fact are not completely gone..."
---Nana on 3/5/14

That is, not completely gone from CN.
---Nana on 3/6/14

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//Although I disagree with Luke's caveat about never a Christian at all//

Samuel, you might not agree with my answer but that would mean you do not agree with the word of God found in 1 John 2:19. It's ok to disagree with the word of God, many do.
According to 1 Peter 1:5, when Christ reigns in a person's life, that person is kept by God's power. As a result, the "evil one does not touch him" 1 John 5:18. When the Holy Spirit inhabits a person, no demon can set up house as a squatter. Indwelling by demons is only evidence of a lack of genuine salvation.
---Luke on 3/6/14

I know some who have dabbled in the occult and they opened doors for demon activity. Stephen king and all the soothsayers all over talk tv as witches are of the occult. we need to stay away from that wicked stuff. there is one show on tv that is about the witch of long island, n.y. that my friend is demons.
---shira4368 on 3/5/14

Some do not leave of their own accord and need to be put out.
"But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."
"But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner, with such an one no not to eat." We had a pair of "railer" demons which as a matter of fact are not completely gone...
---Nana on 3/5/14

Well we are in agreement. Although I disagree with Luke's caveat about never a Christian at all.

We all do agree that the Temple of the HOLY SPIRIT cannot be taken over by a demon.

Praise the LORD.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/5/14

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"Can a Christian have a demon?"
I really do not think that is possible. He can be tormented by one, but never indwelled by one. If a so call Christian falls away from his salvation, he never really had salvation. He was never sustained by Christ. He was never able to stand by God. He was really never saved by God.
"they went out from us, but they were not of us, for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us, but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us" 1 John 2:19.
If anyone leaves, he was never of us.
---Luke on 3/5/14

Like I said as long as you are in Christ and he be in you, you cannot be possessed by any evil spirits.

It is obvious if you leave Christ and backslide back into the world, you can possess 7 evil spirits, but that is a worse condition you are in prior to when you first got saved because you left your first love.
---Carla on 3/5/14

"The Temple of our bodies has to be empty. No HOLY SPIRIT inside in order for the demon to come in."
---Samuelbb7 on 3/3/14

Ephesians 4:30-32 "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you."

"And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold."
"And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone, for I do always those things that please him."
---Nana on 3/4/14

Hello,All Respect Brothers & Sisters,bless the Lord.
( Bible describes) Satan
" the prince of the air!" For one to open up to: Satan .1. Be deceived turn ,away from God.
2.Obey demons. Astrology, sorcery,wicca, wickedness.

A Christian will NOT identify with demons.. lest a novice, 1Tim.3:6 just as Christ -dominion - we must live for Him.
Satan takes dominion folks- go seek him and his demons.2Thess.2:9 Rev.13:13.
Rev.14,19, 20

Let us Ps.101:3 forsake pride, dead religion.
deliverance is of the Lord.Pro.21:31b Do NOT talk to evil spirits & people caught up in divination or sorcery.
Pray Be cover by The Blood of Jesus. Satan can not stand The Blood of Jesus Christ!
---Lidia4796 on 3/4/14

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Dear Steveng

The Temple of our bodies has to be empty. No HOLY SPIRIT inside in order for the demon to come in.

---Samuelbb7 on 3/3/14

Demons can indeed come back into a christian.

"When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out, and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first."

Once save, always saved is not biblical. One can surely fall away from the faith and go back to one's old self. Christians must take up the cross daily so not to fall back into sin.
---Steveng on 3/2/14

The bottom line is christians cannot once be possessed by a demon. However, anyone can come in contact with evil spirits and demonic activity that present from time to time.
---Carla on 3/2/14

Cluny, now you say,
"And if our calling and election comes from God, then it is not necessary that I make it sure." Cluny, the Bible, the Word of God tells us to make our election sure. If it was not important, we would not be told.
Then say about God, that He "is the source of surety and security, not whether I think so or not."
God knows who they are, He chose them, it is you who does not know unless you make sure you are. No sinner can change the decision of God. All he can do is make sure he is one of the elect. If you do not care, then you are saying it does not matter to you whether you are saved or not. I believe everyone who is saved cares what God commands us to do.
---Mark_V. on 2/7/14

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The Gospel does not need me to protect it. I just share it and it does the restoration. Cause God calls sinner not saints, God calls the unrighteous not the righteous. The righteous should be growing in righteousness.
---BRYAN on 2/6/14

\\cluny, how do you known your not a deceived by the devil? Just because you known were all the scriptures are to protect your religion.\\

Back atcha with both statements, BRYAN.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/6/14

cluny, how do you known your not a deceived by the devil? Just because you known were all the scriptures are to protect your religion. The Gospel is given to all mankind not just the religious ones. Fact is it was given to save SINNERS from Hell. That is what we were before we became believers. Sinners dying in our sin. Now we are set free by the Blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony.
---BRYAN on 2/4/14

\\Be sure to find yourself in the children of God group.\\

And just how do you do that? How do you know that you are not deceived by the devil in thinking that you are a child of God?

And if our calling and election comes from God, then it is not necessary that I make it sure. GOD is the source of surety and security, not whether I think so or not.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/4/14

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Cluny, for your information so that you can learn about the Word of God, and realize your own status, all who are lost, that means those without Christ, are children of the devil. By nature they are children of wrath, all heading to hell. When God has mercy on them, and draws them to Himself, He makes them spiritually alive together with Christ, they become a child of God.
All who are lost belong to the devil, the lost world belongs to him. All are his children. Be sure to find yourself in the children of God group. If you are not there, then God has not drawn you to Himself and you still belong to the devil.
---Mark_V. on 2/4/14

\\I have made my calling and election sure.\\

St. Paul said, "Who has known the mind of God?" The question in Greek expects the answer, "Nobody."

But YOU claim to know the mind of God.

Then you say I am arrogant.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/4/14

Cluny, you now say,
"How can you tell if someone else is saved when you don't even know if YOU are saved and among the elect?"
When did I ever say I didn't know I was saved? I have made my calling and election sure.
"Therefore brethren, be even more diligent to make your calling and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble, for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly in the ever lasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" (2 Peter 1:10,11).
the things we should not stumble on are the one's mentioned in (v. 5-9).
---Mark_V. on 2/4/14

Trey, I believe it is you who does not understand. Let's take Mark 5 as you posted here. Please read it again. WHO ran and worshiped Jesus. It appears it was LEGION who was talking to Jesus and Jesus talking to LEGON. The man's name was not LEGON. LEGON said, WE are many.

And when Jesus cast LEGON out of the man, Jesus instructed them to go into the pigs. And when they did, the pigs ran off over a cliff.

There is another story of demons addressing Jesus as the most high God, and Jesus told them to "be quiet".

So sweetly, first learn to read and comprehend scripture yourself, before running again into mischief.
---kathr4453 on 2/4/14

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Luke 4:33-35

33 And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice,

34 Saying, Let us alone, what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.

35 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the devil had thrown him in the midst, he came out of him, and hurt him not.

So here again we see the demon in the man doing the talking, not the man, again knowing exactly who Jesus is.
---kathr4453 on 2/4/14

Kathr, once again I question your ability to read english, much less understand scripture.
---trey on 2/3/14

To all that belong to Satan Demons come and go markv//

Jesus gave His disciples authority over demons to cast out of people IN JESUS NAME.

Mark 1:26 The evil spirit shook the man violently and came out of him with a shriek.
Luke 9:42---the demon threw him to the ground in a convulsion. But Jesus rebuked the evil spirit,---.

Acts 8:7 With shrieks, evil spirits came out of many...

Luke 4:33,35 In the synagogue there was a man possessed by a demon, an evil spirit. He cried out at the top of his voice... "Be quiet!" Jesus said sternly. "Come out of him!"

Are your temper tantrums and cursing here demons coming and going in and out of you? I see no others shrieking when confronted.
---kathr4453 on 2/3/14

satan and a Holy God cannot live in the same body. it is either one but not both. satan must have approval from God to bother God's people. Christians can be oppressed by satan. satan always starts of slightly then it gets worse as time goes on. satan has invaided Hollywood in a profound way. he has changed the bible to deceive Christians who are not aware of his tactics. we must always try the spirits, whether they are of God.
---shira4368 on 2/3/14

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\\By your own actions and conduct. I am not God to be sure if you are saved or not, but so far, you don't seem to be.
---Mark_V. on 2/3/14

How can you tell if someone else is saved when you don't even know if YOU are saved and among the elect?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/3/14

Why Markv....because it's better to accuse than answer a question?

You will never change.

Accusing others will NEVER change your own character. Haven't you realized that by now?
---kathr4453 on 2/3/14

Kathr, to this day you have not changed. Is it better for you to believe some are demon possessed and some or not? Or is it any better to be a child of the devil? Either way, you belong to Satan. You are arguing what is better to say. To all who belong to Satan demons come and go. No one knows they have them, yet other can tell by the fruits of the individual, just like I can tell by your fruits whether there is a demon in you are not. By your own actions and conduct. I am not God to be sure if you are saved or not, but so far, you don't seem to be.
---Mark_V. on 2/3/14

some of us are demon possessed , liars, unsaved, stupid and have a different god than others have, however I am a born again believer.
---shira4368 on 2/2/14

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\\You will never be a MAN Markv as long as you continue this behavior\\

Don't forget, kathr, that MarkV said he was a child of the devil.

So consider the source.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/2/14

Bro. Christan, people should pay attention to what you said when you said,
"Unless one's born of the Holy Spirit, he's anyways demon possessed because -----" John 8:44

---Mark_V. on 1/31/14

So Markv, when you said we should all PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT CHRISTAN SAID:

1) did YOU pay attention?
2) were you saying we should NOT believe everything Christan said?
3) are you demon possessed by a demon who cannot read and comprehend sentences clearly stated that you agreed with?

Still up to your old antics of how to NOT answer a question, by turning YOUR statement around to say you did not say what you said.

You really should be dizzy by now chasing your own tail. LOL!
---kathr4453 on 2/2/14

So,the TRUTH here is that Markv does NOT agree with Christan's statement, and we should not listen to what Christan stated.

Markv does not have the integrity to man up and disagree with Christan, but states openly he disagrees while saying he agrees. Talk about a double minded man.....oh, but to question him on his duplicity, he, like ALWAYS curses, calls names and will say and do anything to wiggle out.

You will never be a MAN Markv as long as you continue this behavior.

"God" has NOT called you to teach. He only calls those who are above reproach. You still seek the approval of man. Your actions and words here prove it. PRIDE.

Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God and satan will flee from you.
---kathr4453 on 2/2/14

In the Orthodox church, there are three exorcisms over the baptizand before the actual administration of the Mystery.

This is typical of all the classical pre-Reformation rites.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/2/14

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Kathr, the problem you are having is that you might be demon possessed yourself, and not even know it. Are you getting the feeling that something is moving you to ask this stupid questions when you already got answers? Also, what would be causing you to reject the Word of God and bring another gospel? That the Son of God became the Son of God? That could be the work of the antichrist. Lets not call antichrist a demon, if you don't want to.
You can just call him a good helper for the enemy. That sounds better.
Here again is what I said, not all the lost are possessed with a demon, but they all belong to their father the devil. Is that better then been possessed?
Only God can save those people by His grace.
---Mark_V. on 2/2/14

Trey, Mark 5.....According to your interpretation, Jesus delivered many many many ( you say already born again) of demon possession. So what you are saying is Markv and Christan lied and said no "born again" Christan is demon possessed, and no demon possessed person can worship God.

But we do see in mark 5 demon possession took on the form of mental illness and physical illness.

SOOOOOOOO, let's recap,

Are they saying is no mentally ill OR PHYSICALLY ILL PERSON can be born again, OR no born again person can have any physical or mental illnesses...

Or are you saying born again people can still be demon possessed if someone doesn't perform an exorcism?

Sounds kinda Benny Hinnish to me.
---kathr4453 on 2/2/14

I read in Mark chapter 5 where there is a man of the country of the Gadarenes who is possessed with a legion of devils.
Mark5:6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,...
Devils do not worship Jesus, but this man did, so we know that he was born again for him to act in this manner. We know that worship pleases God and to come to God one must believe that he is God, and for one to believe he must have faith, and inorder to have faith one must be born again because faith is the fruit of the Spirit of God.

The truth is I believe that Christ's going to this island of the Gadarenes was soley to help this man.
---trey on 2/1/14

Markv, you still have not answered the question of WHEN you went through your exorcism of demon possession.

Don't wast your time chasing your tail around your nonsense....just answer the question.

Since YOU were also a child of the devil, and demon possessed. Share your testimony here Markv.....did this exorcism take place before or after you were born again?
---kathr4453 on 2/1/14

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Markv, your verses still do not prove every human ever born is demon possessed, including you. Your verses still fall short and are left up to your interpretation.

Were you born DEAD or born POSSESSED..two entirely different matters. Becoming a child of God does not happen through exorcism.

It comes by being CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST, WHERE OUR OLD MAN IS BURIED WITH CHRIST IN DEATH, and then the new birth happens the moment we are raised up together with Him.

The exchanged life is not exchanging one father for another....
You still don't understand the cross. Jesus took your SIN upon him! not your DEMONS, or your suggested first father satan.

Have you, AFTER salvation OVERCOME the evil one?
---kathr4453 on 2/1/14

Bro. Christan, people should pay attention to what you said when you said,
"Unless one's born of the Holy Spirit, he's anyways demon possessed because Jesus accused some of the Jews in His discourse with them as, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do." John 8:44

---Mark_V. on 1/31/14

NOW you say not all are born demon possessed. So what you really want us to swallow is you were already born IN CHRIST before your natural birth?

That is a lie from hell, and Mormonism believing you preexisted.

You did NOT preexisted and were physically born a child of God. If that were so, no NEW birth would be necessary.
---kathr4453 on 2/1/14

Samuelbb7 - okay, let's go along with your theory that God "knows and foresees the future" of the man. That is to say He knows who's going to choose and reject Him which has consequences of eternal life and death, right?

And your theory about God also suggest that He loves everyone and does not desire the death of the sinner, right? Now, answer me this simple question -

Why then does He still create those whom He knows are going to reject Him and be sent to hell since He's a loving God and doesn't desire the death of the sinner?
---christan on 2/1/14

Brother MarkV, it's seriously pointless explaining to those who simply hates the idea that God has decided on whom He's going to save and reject before the "foundations of the world" (which is in black and white anyways).

They rant and rave about knowing the meaning of God being Sovereign and at the same time, pull the carpet from under His Sovereignty (like they have the power to anyways). Such we are taught and Christ calls them HYPOCRITES.

The can't even understand what's being a slave to satan and being demon possessed is all about. Btw, is Benny Hinn their god? Why do they keep mentioning his name? I guess only they know.
---christan on 2/1/14

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\\Kathr, for your information every person born of Adam outside of Christ Himself is a child of the devil.\\

That means that YOU are a child of the devil, MarkV, so we need not listen to you.

However, the Bible in one of ST. Paul's letters say that children of Christians already are holy and belong to God.

Who is right: you or the Bible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/1/14

Kathr, for your information every person born of Adam outside of Christ Himself is a child of the devil. They don't even know it, like you do not even know it. They speak for him. Are all human beings lost demon possessed? Of course not, they already belong to the devil. Only God can set them free. When He does, they become His children. Otherwise they remain condemned already, heading to hell. This information is free. You will reject it, because you cannot help yourself, it's your nature.
"among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of the flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just like the others" (Eph. 2:3).
---Mark_V. on 2/1/14

Markv and Christan STILL have not answered the question of their own demon possession. WHEN did your exorcism take place....before or after you were born of the spirit. YOU both made this radical doctrinal statement, and ran away here when questioned about the validity of such nonsense.

So tell us of your own personal experience, since YOU both are the only ones here who claim to be born of the spirit, claiming you were demon possessed before you were born of the spirit.

1)HOW were they driven out before you were born of the spirit?

2) who preformed the exorcism? Benny Hinn?

Jesus cast out demons, the Apostles cast out demons, so WHO cast them out of you?

Still waiting for your answer.
---kathr4453 on 2/1/14

God has everything set up on the earth to work according to his word. His word is as a 2 edged sword, which means how you use it, is how it will produce in your life, it is the only thing that can produce. satan knows this fact. If he can get you to believe he has power over you he will defeat you even if you have Jesus in your heart. If you don't understand who you are in Christ Jesus how are you going to stop him from steal the word from you? Matthew 13, Mark 4, and Luke 8. The only way to stop satan is sow the word and choke out the thorns don't let the thorns choke out the word.
---BRYAN on 2/1/14

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Romans 5:9 - Since we have been justified by his blood how much more shall we be saved from Gods Wrath through him , - ( NIV )

Roman 6:14 - For sin shall not have dominion over you, for ye are not under the law but under Grace,

Zephaniah 2:3 - Seek ye the Lord all ye meek of the earth, seek righteousness :seek meekness , it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the Lords anger ,

Titus 3:5 - Not by works of Righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit
---RichardC on 1/31/14

Christan will be held accountable for all his actions, words etc. The sovereignty of God did not preprogrammed him to say and do what he does.

Also God did not preprogrammed anyone to be saved or lost.

Although you would like it both ways, it's not.

And to be so transparent to AGAIN change the subject to the Sovereignty of God. It's a nice pat answer for all your false doctrine. GOD WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE.....Praise God for that?

When Christan or Markv SEE what a stupid comment they make.....then all of a sudden, the SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD covers over their stupidity, and like the Benny Hinn's in this world, cursed is anyone who questions their interpretation of the Sovereignty of God, or them.
---kathr4453 on 1/31/14

There are two main views of how GOD makes the future happen. One is that He knows and foresees the future. Men are action the way GOD knows they will act and GOD uses them as He wills. But it is the man who choses.

The other as some present here GOD causes men to act is a certain way. But if this is true then men are not responsible for what GOD makes them do. We would be robots only doing what we are told to do. Which makes GOD responsible for our actions.

By the way I do not see where humans are born demon possessed.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/31/14

Heard of "God is sovereign and man will be held accountable"? Here's a biblical demonstration of this saying,

"For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done." Acts 4:27,28 - whose will were the above mentioned doing?

Those who participated in the above act, Peter declared unto them, "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree." Acts 5:30 - regardless, man will be held accountable.

---christan on 1/31/14

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So now the question is:
1) Markv and Christan, WHEN did you have demons cast out of YOU, before or after you were saved?

OR are you saying the ELECT were never physically born demon possessed?

2) can you show any examples in scripture where every single person saved was first demon possessed.

3) Paul we see cast out demons, and many those who believed after seeing these miracles, 1)were they demon possessed too before being saved, 2) or did they line up after believing to get exorcisms preformed on them.

How bout you two?
---kathr4453 on 1/31/14

Therefore the theory of everyone born into this world is a child of God is nothing but a lie and delusion.
---christan on 1/29/14

The delusion here is that some believe they were born into this world ALREADY a child of God, therefore making themselves born righteous. NO ONE is born into this world a child of God. Every person ever born into this world except Jesus Christ is a sinner. Even Mary.

Even Christan/ Markv. Sinners, sinners demon possessed sinners...HA!

First you "laugh" because Hebrews 2 says satan held the power of death, until Jesus won victory over the grave accusing the author of Hebrews of saying satan had more power than God, still accuse satan of having more power than the WORD of God itself.
---kathr4453 on 1/31/14

Bro. Christan, people should pay attention to what you said when you said,
"Unless one's born of the Holy Spirit, he's anyways demon possessed because Jesus accused some of the Jews in His discourse with them as, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do." John 8:44

---Mark_V. on 1/31/14


So everyone not saved can LITERALLY say "the devil MADE me do it"

No human accountability at all?

So what verse says when you are crucified with Christ you KILL the power of the devil IN YOU?

And where is the verse Adam/Eve immediately became demon possessed the moment they sinned?
---kathr4453 on 1/31/14

Bro. Christan, people should pay attention to what you said when you said,
"Unless one's born of the Holy Spirit, he's anyways demon possessed because Jesus accused some of the Jews in His discourse with them as, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do." John 8:44

Therefore the theory of everyone born into this world is a child of God is nothing but a lie and delusion."

That's a very bad theory. People believe that theory because God is love, and they believe the lost deserves the love of God just like the children of God. But they are children of the devil.
The "dearly beloveth" talked about through the whole New Testament are children of God.
---Mark_V. on 1/31/14

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"But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house." Matthew 12:28,29

This account in Matthew is all about God's power over the devil. The "one entering" is in reference to God Almighty and not the devil. The one "binding" the "strong man" is in reference to God binding the devil.

It was already from the garden that the man Adam became a slave to the devil and so we are all also born into slavery. Only God can free His people.
---christan on 1/30/14

What about the parable about the strong Man's house one who was stronger broke in and took possession of his stuff. This was a parable from Jesus. Telling us to know who you are in Him so you want have this happen to you.
---BRYAN on 1/30/14

There are many people who consider themselves in the spirit but do not realize what that spirit truly is. So, there are many who consider themselves christians that are possessed with a false spirit and a false witness that looks like christ.

Matthew 7:21 ESV

Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

---aka on 1/30/14

Family,God bless all respect..yes,a christian can be shaken,depressed and all that but, All respect to Bro.Leon , I have to agree that a christian can not be POSSESS of s demon. Mt.6:24 Lk10:19 Lk11:20

Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 1/29/14

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All he is out to do is deceive you. He can trick you into doing a lot of wrong thinks. Cause if you don't know who your are in Christ, then you will be easy pickins for satan to knock off. Find out who you are in Christ Jesus and then you can put satan were he belongs under your feet or behind you.
---BRYAN on 1/29/14

NO!!! Born again believers in Jesus Christ can be demon harrassed, oppressed, depressed, but, never demon possessed (inhabited). Born again believers are inhabited by God, the Holy Spirit.
---Leon on 1/29/14

How's one who's born of the Holy Spirit even be demon possessed? Can the demon (devil) overpower the Almighty God that has taken "possession" of the Christian? IMPOSSIBLE!

Unless one's born of the Holy Spirit, he's anyways demon possessed because Jesus accused some of the Jews in His discourse with them as, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do." John 8:44

Therefore the theory of everyone born into this world is a child of God is nothing but a lie and delusion.
---christan on 1/29/14

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