StrongAxe, the point is that evolution is a humanistic/naturalistic philosophy which by necessity begins with a naturalistic event, commonly called the Big Bang. This is followed over countless eons by the formation of planets, stars etc. It continues with a molten mass cooling to become the earth where eons later life appears again by naturalistic processes. It is claimed (without proof) that amazingly complex life appeared already able to duplicate itself, leading to the evolution of all life-forms ever seen.
Without all that went before the appearance of life biological evolution would have had nothing to work upon. The evolutionary story therefore begins with the Big Bang.
---Warwick on 7/20/14|
Luke, the thread question is: Did life begin on earth by itself?
Genesis says life began upon earth, by Gods command, not by itself. I think Darlene began this discussion between we two by (I think) considering angels to be the first life-form. But this is not the question, the meaning of which I believe is: Did life on earth originate by naturalistic (no God) or supernatural commands of God?
Considering the overriding question concerns only the appearance of life on earth whether God had previously created anything anywhere else is not relevant to the question. Maybe we should consider whether Angels are life-forms, as we define earth bound life, or are they Spiritual beings, as is God?
---Warwick on 7/20/14|
Creationwiki (with a Creationist bias) mentions "General Theory of Evolution", as defined by Gerald A. Kerkut. One hears about this mostly on creationist sites. It is not in common usage.
Conservapedia (with a similar bias) admits "evolution is most commonly used to describe Darwinian evolution by means of natural selection." - i.e. NOT cosmology.
It's fruitless to attack a seldom-used meaning of a word different from what people understand it to mean - especially as the common usage is related to this blog topic ("Did Life begin on Earth"?), while the General Theory is not (i.e. how the earth got here has no bearing on how life got here).
---StrongAxe on 7/19/14|
//Therefore to imagine God had to create a physical heaven in which to exist is an assumption not supported by Scripture.//
Warwick, who even said God had to created anything? I know I didn't. But if there was a heaven, the only way there would be a heaven is if He had created it.
//Genesis ch.1 is about the creation of the physical universe and all within it.//
That is correct, "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
//Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all//
That is why I said He created heaven and earth.
You are going in circles Warwick. Agape
---Luke on 7/19/14|
Luke, God Himself is not created, but eternal. He is not a man, not physical, but Spirit, who exists outside of time. He therefore is in no way like us with physical needs so does not need a physical created heaven. Conversely everything had to be created for us, by Him. We are physical beings who exist in a physical, time bound manner. He needs none of that which we cannot exist without.
Therefore to imagine God had to create a physical heaven in which to exist is an assumption not supported by Scripture.
Genesis ch.1 is about the creation of the physical universe and all within it.
Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, ..."
---Warwick on 7/18/14|
Warwick, thank you for that. God bless you. Have a great weekend!
---love.jesus on 7/18/14|
love.jesus, I believe you are ducking the issue. You have some pet man-made nonBiblical beliefs which you hold to passionately, despite not being able to support them from Scripture. That is why you will not answer questions. I mean you no harm but utterly reject these beliefs to which I refer.
---Warwick on 7/18/14|
//...I understand it heaven (not heavens) is the place God has inhabited through all eternity.//
I Kings 8:39, "...hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place,"
"Heaven," here in I Kings is singular in English, but is plural in Hebrew, hashamyim. The Hebrew Bible doesn't make that articulate of a distinction between tangible heavens and the heavens the place where God dwells.
---Rod4Him on 7/18/14|
//Luke, as I understand it heaven (not heavens) is the place God has inhabited through all eternity.//
If God inhabited heaven for all eternity, He had to have created it. For He created everything. Otherwise it would not be there.
// 'The heavens' (must be Plural) is where God has placed everything he has created.//
Yes, there is more then one heaven that God created. But before He created heaven, singular, there was nothing.
// Genesis ch. 1 is about the creation of space, matter, and time, including everything created upon our little planet.//
that includes heaven, singular. For all things were created by Him and for Him.
---Luke on 7/18/14|
StrongAxe, scientists often categorize evolution under 2 headings: The General Theory of Evolution which includes the origin of life and biological evolution. And The Special Theory of Evolution which covers only biological evolution.
Most evolutionary biology textbooks cover the origin of life in the chapters on evolution.
The University of California, Berkeley, has a course "Evolution 101" which includes the origin of life. Well-known evolutionists such as P.Z. Myers, Nick Matzke, and Richard Dawkins agree the origin of life is part of evolution.
Also the Big Bang, the billions of years are all part of the story. No naturalistic Big Bang no planet and star formation, no evolution.
---Warwick on 7/18/14|
MarkAxe: I'll try to simplify. Cosmology and Darwinism are two sides of the same atheistic coin. It doesn't matter which side you select, you will still be deceived. Have you ever met anyone who believed one and not the other? I haven't either. Do you, as a Christian, believe both?
Back to the blog question. Do you believe in abiogenesis?
---jerry6593 on 7/18/14|
I love the same Jesus that you love. There is only one Jesus, Son of God, bless His Holy Name. God bless you, Warwick. Peace to you.
---love.jesus on 7/17/14|
Luke, as I understand it heaven (not heavens) is the place God has inhabited through all eternity. 'The heavens' is where God has placed everything he has created. Genesis ch. 1 is about the creation of space, matter, and time, including everything created upon our little planet. If God had not created the heavens i.e. space, then there would have been nowhere to place all the matter of our material universe. Outside the heavens there is nothing material nor is there even time, not even space, nothing.
---Warwick on 7/17/14|
Regardless of whether or not you believe evolution and cosmology are science or fiction, the fact remains that they are different things, and that Darwin's Theory of Evolution says NOTHING WHATSOEVER about how the sun, earth and stars were created. Claiming that evolution DOES speak about them indicates either ignorance of what it says (so attacking it is like criticizing cheese without ever having eaten it), or callous indifference (with a respect for truth on the same level as supermarket tabloids), or deliberate deception (on the level of political propaganda). So which is it?
---StrongAxe on 7/17/14|
love.jesus, Why did I know that you would be unable to you give me a straight answer to a simple question?
The Jesus I love is Creator of everything (Colossians 1:16) our God who says " I am the way, and the truth, and the life (John 14:6), He who does not lie. The same Jesus who verifies the Truth of Genesis Creation. Which Jesus is it that you love?
---Warwick on 7/17/14|
Warwick, I wish you well. Whatever you do, be sure to love Jesus.
---love.jesus on 7/16/14|
//. I don't think it means that God at that time created heaven, the place He has inhabited for all eternity.//
God did not inhibit heaven for all eternity. He created heaven.
In the beginning God (Gen.1:1) tells us that before that time if time could be called, when God in the unity of His nature, through subsisting equally in three Persons, dwelt all alone. There was no heaven, where His glory is now particularly manifested. There was no earth, no angels, no universe. There was nothing, no one, but God. Not for a day, a year, or an age, but "from everlasting."
The God the Bible presents.
Second, not believing the account of Genesis stops God from saving an individual by Grace through faith. Agape
---Luke on 7/17/14|
love.jesus, it is not about what we believe but about what Jesus has said. You believe the early chapters of Genesis do not have to be taken as written, as historical reality, as Jesus and the apostles take them, as their multiple references and allusions show. Opinions do not change this. You are claiming Jesus gave Genesis 1:27 and 2:24 as His foundation for real Christian marriage (with no hint these verses were any less than historical reality) but you say that He either: 1) Got it wrong. Or 2) Knowing they were not historical reality made then the foundation for real Christian marriage! Bizarre!
---Warwick on 7/16/14|
love.jesus as I have asked before, but not answered: Scripture says Jesus rose from the dead. If we do not take this as historical reality are we still sinners on our way to hell?
---Warwick on 7/16/14|
Luke, my understanding of 'shamayim' is that it has the two meanings you have given. In Genesis 1:1 it is generally translated as 'heavens' because of context, therefore meaning where the earth, and all the planets and stars would be placed. It probably corresponds to our word 'space.' I don't think it means that God at that time created heaven, the place He has inhabited for all eternity.
---Warwick on 7/16/14|
Warwick, You know now what I believe, and I know now what you believe, and we do not agree. So I think we can let it go at that. There really isn't much more to say without becoming repetitive.
---love.jesus on 7/16/14|
love.jesus you should read what I have written! Twice I have told you I do not take Scripture literally but at face value (as did Jesus and the apostles) unless there is good reason not to. This is how we read all literature.
Whether Jesus was an historian or not is irrelevant as I am discussing the point that Jesus considered Genesis to be historical reality. What you are claiming is diabolical: that Jesus based the sanctity of Christian marriage upon something, He as Creator, knew to be wrong. I can see why you wonder about heaven or hell.
What you are saying is that you can have faith in Jesus while at the same time disagreeing with what He has said! Good luck!
---Warwick on 7/16/14|
love: "Jesus did not come as a history teacher", etc.
History is His Story. Jesus said that the Old Testament was about Him. He quoted from it often, and always as fact. How can you have faith in Jesus if you don't believe He told the truth?
---jerry6593 on 7/16/14|
//In my comments of 14th July I did not mean to suggest the earth came before the heavens. BTW "heavens" in Genesis 1:1 is Hebrew 'samayim' (plural) which means "place of the stars, sky, and air." In its plural use it does not mean heaven, as in "Our Father in Heaven..."//
Warwick, I disagree with you about the word "heaven" in Genesis 1:1.
The word is "Shamayim" it is a noun that arises from an unused Hebrew root (Sh-M-H) which presumably meant "to be lofty." Therefore the meaning is, aloft, the sky height, and heaven. There are two meanings
1. The physical heaven
2. Where God lives
Shamayim is the dwelling place of God (Ps. 2:4) Deut. 4:39, 10:14, 26:15.
---Luke on 7/16/14|
Warwick, Jesus did not come as a history teacher but rather as someone who would save us. When he spoke, he used terms and ideas that people already understood. He came to bring people salvation and a better way to live, not to confirm the creation story. I am okay with your believing in the literalness of the Genesis account. But don't try to tell me that I can't have faith in Jesus as strong as yours just because we disagree on Genesis. It is unkind and dishonest of you to do so. God bless you.
---love.jesus on 7/15/14|
love.jesus, I answered but it did not appear!
Your question is based upon a false premise, that I believe Scripture is to be taken as literal. I don't, believing Scripture as all literature should be taken at face-value unless there is some good reason not to do so. What I note is that Jesus and the apostles quoted from the first 11 chapters of Genesis 107 times, always as sober historical reality. For example Jesus (Mark 10:6) quotes from Genesis 1:27, and 2:24 as the historical foundation for Christian marriage. This proves the Creator took Genesis as fact. We are saved by faith so where does that leave us if we do not have enough faith to believe Jesus was telling the truth?
---Warwick on 7/15/14|
Luke I originally wrote (8th July) "Bible: Earth before sun and stars. Evolution: Stars and sun before earth" i.e. the Bible says the earth was created before the sun and the stars while the long-ages evolutionary beliefs holds that the stars and the sun predated the earth.
In my comments of 14th July I did not mean to suggest the earth came before the heavens. BTW "heavens" in Genesis 1:1 is Hebrew 'samayim' (plural) which means "place of the stars, sky, and air." In its plural use it does not mean heaven, as in "Our Father in Heaven..."
---Warwick on 7/15/14|
//the stars and the sun came before the earth, but God says the earth came first..//
I agree with Darline, that creation started in heaven first. That is how we are told in Scripture.
"In the Beginning God created the heavens and the earth,.." The heavens are mentioned first. Then the earth. If there is a mistake can you point me to the passage where we are told the earth was created first? Verse 3 tells us that God called light into existence. He liked the light He called into existence and divided it in half. Half light and half darkness. Agape
---Luke on 7/15/14|
Axster: "If you can't tell the difference between these vastly different sciences"
Neither Evolution nor Cosmology is real science in the classic sense, any more than Astrology is. They are connected in the atheistic paradigm of creation without God. They have been repeatedly shown to be mostly conjecture with many holes bandaged by simplistic fantasies. But, it's all the atheists have, so they stick with it. But you are a Christian. Why do you adhere to it?
---jerry6593 on 7/15/14|
No life began with God in heaven with the angels and when they rebelled God cast one third of them out of heaven,then created and gave life to man on earth for the purpose of fellowship with Him but they failed Him too,and eventually He destroyed all the sinners who originated from the first couple and turned their back on Him just like those angels did. God never wanted anything but those people and first the angels to love Him and put him first in their lives therefore He sent His son Jesus to give mankind a last change to love Him and many have failed at that but those who trust and obey walking in faith and love with God will reap what they have sown .Life never began by itself. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 7/14/14|
StrongAxe, the list is brief and accurate.
The long-ages evolutionary story necessarily begins with the imagined Big Bang when all the matter of the universe supposedly appeared by naturalistic (not supernatural) processes. Vast ages are a necessary part of the evolutionary story.
In this story:
the stars and the sun came before the earth, but God says the earth came first..
the earth was first a molten blob but God says it was first covered by water.
the dry land came first then oceans but God says oceans came first then dry land.
The evolutionary story says life appeared naturalistically and evolved by natural selection plus mutations-no God needed.
---Warwick on 7/14/14|
Luke, thank you for your straightforward and honest answer.
---love.jesus on 7/14/14|
Warwick, Why did I know that you would be unable to you give me a straight answer to a simple question?
---love.jesus on 7/14/14|
You have parroted this list here frequently, but let's examine it:
Evolution: Stars and sun before earth.
Evolution: Earth molten blob initially
Evolution: Dry land then oceans
Evolution only speaks about how species formed, NOT planets or stars. That's cosmology. If you can't tell the difference between these vastly different sciences, how can you expect anyone to take any other points (even valid ones) seriously?
Bible: big bang future.
Darwinian evolution ... is based upon there being no God
Wrong. It makes no mention for nor against God, BECAUSE God is not relevant to the subject - as in geometry, cooking, sewing, carpentry and other subjects.
---StrongAxe on 7/14/14|
love.jesus, may I be truly Jewish here and answer a question with a question, as Jesus commonly did? Scripture says Jesus rose from the dead. If we do not take this as historical reality are we still sinners on our way to hell?
BTW I do not take Scripture literally, but take it at face value, unless there is some good reason not to do so. If you do not understand what I mean I am happy to explain more fully.
---Warwick on 7/14/14|
//Is it true that anyone who does not believe that the Genesis creation story is literal, and who does not believe in a young earth, will burn hell forever?//
we are not saved by how much knowledge we have, or how good we are. Nor by our own works,
We are saved by God's Grace through faith. It is the work of God. We can clearly say,
"Salvation is of the Lord"
What is the heresy of Rome, but the addition of something to the perfect merits of Jesus Christ. The bringing in of the works of the flesh, to assist in our justification? Agape
---Luke on 7/14/14|
Is it true that anyone who does not believe that the Genesis creation story is literal, and who does not believe in a young earth, will burn hell forever?
---love.jesus on 7/13/14|
Cluny, you are so predictable. You make foolish, and incorrect comments (in this case about Genesis 1 being evolutionary in its content) then when contradicted with facts you back away. You have done it many times over the years. You obviously cannot defend your heterodox views from Scripture but do not change your mind. Apparently you only believe Scripture when it by chance agrees with your antiBiblical man-made philosophies. Hypocrisy! Not a good look!
---Warwick on 7/13/14|
We are not told in the Bible that life begin some place else other then earth. No reason to speculate. The Truth is in the Book. Sometimes we do use our opinion when other passages reveal the truth on the passages we are reading that we might have trouble on. The Bible does not tell us life begin in another planet so there is no reason to ask other then to bring division among everyone. Agape
---Luke on 7/9/14|
Bible: Earth before sun and stars. Evolution: Stars and sun before earth.
Bible: Earth covered in water initially. Evolution: Earth molten blob initially
Bible: Oceans first then dry land. Evolution: Dry land then oceans
Bible:Life first created on land. Evolution:Life started in oceans.
Bible: Plants created before the sun. Evolution: Plants came long after sun.
Bible: Fish and birds created together. Evolution: Fish formed long before birds.
Bible: Land animals created after birds. Evolution: land animals before whales.
Bible: Man and dinosaurs lived together. Evolution: Dinosaurs extinct long before man appeared.
Bible: big bang future. Evolution: big bang past.
---Warwick on 7/8/14|
jerry, math is one of the worst subjects I ever tried to learn. I just believe the bible and I know God exist because I can feel Him in my heart. thanks for the sweet words. its rare to read good things on CN sometimes.
---shira4368 on 7/8/14|
Cluny, you see evolutionary patterns in Genesis, but they aren't there.
Darwinian evolution, now Neo-Darwinism because his version doesnt work, is based upon there being no God, nor need of God. Life supposedly appeared magically and super-magically appeared able to reproduce itself, then blindly marched forward to produce all the kinds of life ever seen, all stemming from that 1 original imaginary life-form. But Genesis 1 says God is the creator of all there is, creating all of his creatures to reproduce only after their own kind. Meanwhile evolution stumbles forward turning one kind into another i.e. the ancestor of dogs was not a dog! There is God's account of creation and there is evolution and never the twain shall meet!
---Warwick on 7/8/14|
Shira: Your common sense reasoning agrees perfectly with science and mathematics. The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that all things tend to deteriorate - not self-organize. The complexity of even the simplest single-celled living thing is such that its organization by random chance is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE. This FACT was even acknowledged by the renowned evolutionist George Wald, who, although he had computed it, refused to believe it because the conclusion implied creation by God, and since he was a hard core atheist, he rejected his own conclusion.
---jerry6593 on 7/8/14|
sounds like origin and slow process of development are exactly the same way Darwin believed. I wonder what he thinks now in the place he is now. Im no Einstein but the complex body could not possibly come from a bunch of stuff throwed together and formed accidentally. Darwin was just another nut case.
---shira4368 on 7/7/14|
Cluny: "Actually, Darwin's theories had NOTHING to say about the origin of life, but only its development."
I showed you this quote before, but you must have forgotten:
"But if (and oh! what a big if) we could conceive in some warm little pond, with all sorts of ammonia and phosphoric salts, light, heat, electricity etc., present, that a protein compound was chemically formed ready to undergo still more complex changes." - Darwin, Life and Letters, 1887, p.202
"This is the pattern I see in Genesis 1."
You need spiritual eye salve. The Bible teaches fiat creation - not slow-age development. The fossil record is one of flood-induced catastrophism - not gradual development.
---jerry6593 on 7/6/14|
Actually, Darwin's theories had NOTHING to say about the origin of life, but only its development.
First time evolution was mentioned in the classroom was in my freshman zoology class. There I was told that evolution is an orderly development from simpler to more complex forms.
This is the pattern I see in Genesis 1.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/5/14|
Elena: I didn't expect that you would buy into crazy Uncle Charlie's fantasy of goo-to-you Evolution because you are a REAL Christian. But sadly, most people do believe it because of its exclusive teaching in the government indoctrination centers (public schools).
---jerry6593 on 6/29/14|
To Bro.Jerry all respect NOT all Christians believe as you say like the people who quote,into the evaluation claim...I heard all.the this & that darwin theory in college never accept it,not then not now.
Love of Jesus! Elena 5999
---Elena_9555 on 6/28/14|
Most people in the US, including Christians, believe that we "evolved" from a giant explosion in space, followed by a swirling condensation of space dust, the mysterious appearance of life in a warm pond, and the growth of that life through slow iterations into humans.
In all this, several "miracles" would have to have occurred, one of which is the scientifically and mathematically impossible miracle of abiogenesis - life springing forth from non-life.
---jerry6593 on 6/26/14|
Ah, our friend the Atheist, how are you doing?
Your comment about the flying spaghetti monster leaves out a little question....... how was the flying spaghetti monster created? Or did it always exist?
Just a little question in reply
---Peter on 5/31/14|
Atheist, have you teleported yourself to Christianet from Yahoo Answers Religion and Spirituality category? The flying spaghetti monster is very overdone there. If so, I hope you learn something here which cannot be found on Y.A (R & S). I will pray for your salvation.
---Rita_H on 5/31/14|
A theist: "It was created by the flying spaghetti monster."
Where've you been, buddy? I've missed your entertaining posts.
You once said that you believed "unknown natural causes" produced the first life on earth. Now it's the FSM. But isn't he a supernatural monster that only dwells in the dark corners of your mind? And if he's supernatural, then "unknown natural causes" can't be the first cause.
It seems that your theology needs a little polishing.
---jerry6593 on 5/31/14|
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You've completely lost your noodles (mind) A' if you believe that nonsense.
---Leon on 5/30/14|
Our atheist friend is back!!
Hi atheist, how are you doing?
Being that spaghetti was created by humans, do you think that the flying spaghetti monster was also created by humans, or did it evolve in an obscure kitchen corner?
It is hard to believe that something created made everything we see today.
It is also hard to believe in abiogenesis, a theory that goes against known laws of Physics.
There must be another option, wouldn't you agree?
---micha9344 on 5/30/14|
It was created by the flying spaghetti monster.
---atheist on 5/29/14|
\\Many people, including some Christians, believe that life sprang forth spontaneously upon the earth from a fortuitous convergence of chemicals, water and electricity - or in layman's terms, "magic".\\
Even magic is caused by someone.
But there is an electro-chemical basis to biological life.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/29/14|
//Confusing the issue by putting Spiritual life in the equation does nothing but cause problems.
So let us stick with the scientific definition of life. //
Are we not discussing biblical questions? We are not discussing scientific definitions. Those questions are for the world. They have no spiritual significance. Agape
---Luke on 5/30/14|
No not a scientist just know a few people who build things that are unbelieveable. Like fiber optics, the mars rover, and the rocket ship that that took it to mars. They show me things in there calculations that are nothing but God. It strengths my faith in the word daily. They show me that the word is still creating, planets are still being fromed to this day as they look out in space and see it happening. By the way if you could see the life that holds the dirt or dust together. It is amazing. Our God is awsome. He gave us the very thing he made all of this with, Jesus.
---Bryan on 5/30/14|
God point Warwick. While I am not a Scientist I as a teacher have taught science.
In Biology we taught that life only comes from life.
But in evolution we taught that somehow the chemicals in water some how combined together and became life. Which does not make any sense.
But we know GOD took the dust of the ground and created life.
Praise the LORD.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/30/14|
Genesis 3:19 "By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken, for you are dust, and to dust you shall return."
'Dust' is the English translation from the underlying Hebrew 'apar' which means dust, earth, soil. We are therefore not made from organisms but from the chemicals which make up soil. This is what Scripture plainly says so there is no value in speculation. We also know this to be true from science as after death our bodies begin to break down, eventually returning to the earth chemicals from which God made them.
---Warwick on 5/29/14|
Bryan, dust is dust. Dead dust. Dirt is dirt. I have been knowing Christ for 60 years and you say things I've never heard before. Are you a scientist? Just wondering.
---shira4368 on 5/29/14|
From the dust of the ground sounds like organisms to me they were on the ground in the truth all the dust comes from stars so you really made of Stardust but he said dust off the ground to keep you from going insane completely. God is not freaked out that we know this truth, he calls it little things. The greatest thing is to know him. Then you can see him making the universe.
---Bryan on 5/29/14|
God created Adam. He did not evolve from a micro organism. God made him from the dirt then he made eve from the bone of Adam.
---shira4368 on 5/28/14|
Human life as in being a living organism which is the definition of life and all animals came to life on earth during the six days of creation.
Confusing the issue by putting Spiritual life in the equation does nothing but cause problems.
So let us stick with the scientific definition of life.
But remember that all living things are animated by the Spirit of GOD. We are just dead dirt thrown together with out the spirit that gives all life.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/28/14|
In biblical terms, the word "life" has different meanings. It can mean physical life, or it can mean spiritual life. I was asking Jerry which one he was speaking of and he did answer me.
Many planets and stars are alive today, some are dead and some are dying. There is life in the heavens. And I am not talking about human life in another planet. We were never told there would be human life in another planet so no reason to go there at all. But many stars and planets are alive and growing everyday, yet some are dying, and many are dead.
Spiritual life is mentioned in Scripture, and it always pertains to humans, and the Holy Spirit as the giver of that life. Agape
---Luke on 5/28/14|
Everything is made of the same stuff. Because the stuff you see is made for here. The stuff here will not go to heaven because it is not made of the stuff heaven is made of. The same word that made heaven is the same word that made here. It has the same power here as in heaven. Is'nt there a prayer Jesus told use to pray it starts off Our Father Who Art in Heaven.
---Bryan on 5/27/14|
Every living thing began with God as He is Creator of all life. All we see around us was started by God and what we see on earth was placed on earth by God for us to utilize and enjoy in one way or another. Man made nothing and I, personally, believe that nothing is on earth 'by chance'.
---Rita_H on 5/27/14|
Luke the definition of 'life' is simple: it is the distinctive quality of animate beings. Living organisms grow and reproduce according to their kinds as seen in Genesis ch.1. Therefore the stars and planets are not alive.
And of course Genesis ch.1 also answers the question: life began on earth.
---Warwick on 5/27/14|
Luke: I mean specifically biological life as taught in biology books. Many people, including some Christians, believe that life sprang forth spontaneously upon the earth from a fortuitous convergence of chemicals, water and electricity - or in layman's terms, "magic". They then explain the plethora of life forms we see as self-evolving (again, magic).
In fact, many believe that the entire universe exploded itself into existence from nothing by, you guessed it, magic.
I personally don't believe in this sort of magic. How about you?
---jerry6593 on 5/27/14|
You did not make it clear what kind of life you are talking about. There is physical life and spiritual life. The stars and planets are alive and well, God made the heavens first. Then He made the earth. Spiritual life is only mentioned in earth, to earth people who are spiritually dead from the curse of Adam. They need to be born of God in order to enter heaven. Agape
---Luke on 5/25/14|
EX NIHILO NIHIL FIT !
---1st_cliff on 5/25/14|
"Did life begin on earth by itself?" No.
Life's source is "The Spirit of God [Who] made [us], and the breath of the Almighty [gives] life.
---Josef on 5/24/14|
It had to be by itself cause there was no other self to see it begin. Except the word that has life in it.
---Bryan on 5/24/14|
Genesis 1:11 - And God said , let the earth bring forth grass, and herb yielding seed, and the fruit trees yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself upon the Earth : and it was so,
Genesis 1:24 - And God said, Let the Earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle , and creeping thing, and beast of the Earth after his kind : and it was so.
Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them,
---RICHARDC on 5/24/14|
I certainly don't believe that.
I also believe that earthly life is strictly terrestial in origin.
Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/24/14|