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When The Word Is Sown

Mark 4 : 26, 29 do you believe this is what happens to the word when it is sown?

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Joni Eareckson Tada is a great example of someone disabled who through her disability has the riches that are in Christ . Those riches did not include a perfect healed body, but an awesome perfect spirit, and such a oneness with The Lord, and a depth of His Riches no WOF person would ever understand or even grasp. While WOF only reaches for earthly comfort true saints reach for spiritual riches that can't compare or even be put in words.

I'd rather have what Joni has any day of the week.

So Bryan, as you continue to insult Christians on line by saying.." Your religion" etc, doesn't have this or that....we actually have MORE than you can imagine.
---kathr4453 on 6/11/14

If you suffing in health that is not of God that is attack of the enemy. If your suff because of the Gospel that would be toldly defferent type of suffing. Gospel suffing being set on fire, boiled in oil, have a whole nation leave you, beaten to death, in prison, arested, sickness is not of God us the word to chase it away.
---Bryan on 6/11/14

\\ And I'm a wolf?\\

If it's any comfort to you, Bryan, I don't think you have enough knowledge or cunning to BE a wolf.

You just don't k know the Bible as well as you want us to think you do.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/11/14

Again, looking at Abraham and Sarah. They believed God, but Isaac wasn't conceived BECAUSE Abraham had faith to make it happen. Yes it also was a Miracle. Sarah was past age. AND their lack of faith in the beginning bringing about Ishmael did not negate God's original promise to them.

To Live by the Faith of Christ Bryan "Galatians 2:20-21" has to do with being conformed to His Image, and often that is done through suffering, and it has to do with living a righteous life whether you have physical health issues or not.
---kathr4453 on 6/11/14

Did you not receive a promise for God though Jesus Christ? Abraham and Sarah believe what God said. They could have easily said we don't believe that we are to old how. Jesus said by my strips you are healed passed tence he did not say you are going to be heal he said you are healed passed tence. What is healed in you? If your relationship with the God is healed then you have all the promies of Jesus in you. This is how great the Gospel of Jesus Christ is. Your age does not matter I have friends say I going home tonight in their 90s in good health but in the morning their body in bed but their gone.
---Bryan on 6/11/14

I tell you who you are in Christ Jesus? And I'm a wolf? I tell you have the measure of faith, and I'm called a liar. I say you can do all things though Christ who strengthens you. I tell you you have the right to know how the word works and you call me a wolf. A wolf eats you up the Gospel builds you up spirit, soul, and body. By the word your spirit is alife again, by the word soul is restored, by the word your body is healed. This is what a wolf would tell you?
---Bryan on 6/11/14

But for it to happen you have to put your faith it will happen. ---Bryan on 6/11/14
Did Abraham and Sarah FAITH themselves to Have Isaac...ORRRRR, did Abraham and Sarah simply believe what God promised to them? Or did someone else have to get involved too to make that happen? This is the difference Bryan. This is Faith in God....where His promise FIRST comes through a personal relationship with Him and where HE initiates a personal promise...not a general promise. No one can use Abraham's experience and scripture to Abraham and have a child simply because they want one.

You're all talk Bryan. That's why WOF "followers" are just that...enemies of the cross who mind earthly things!
---kathr4453 on 6/11/14

\\What do you do for them if they as you to pray for them?\\

Simple. I pray for them.

But you've been so inaccurate in what you say about me, I have no reason to believe what you say about anything or anyone else, including Jesus.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/11/14

Why do you always say me? It's Jesus in me do you think I died for you. Remember he gives and gives. Blind eyes open deaf ears open. Just because you have never seen does not mean it does not happen. But for it to happen you have to put your faith it will happen. It does not work by want it only works by faith. You have faith in Jesus? He is the great physician.
---Bryan on 6/11/14

Those who want me to pray for them. What do you do for them if they as you to pray for them? If their asking then they must already be expecting, God to move and heal them. So I will believing they will receive healing. Anything else would in doubt, God does not heal in doubt. Only by faith.
---Bryan on 6/11/14

What you're saying, Bryan, is that you don't have the faith to pray that amputees will grow new limbs.

That's OK. I'll drop the subject.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/11/14

Bryan, Question, how many people have you healed? do you muster up enough faith and power to heal, or what? Have you raised anyone from the dead yet? WHO? If you say "HEAL", does God jump at YOUR COMMAND? So you've put God in submission to yourself commanding God to do this or that at your willy nilly?

Do you know the POWER of His resurrection? Have you been made conformable to His death SO THAT you know the Power of His resurrection?
---kathr4453 on 6/11/14

Funny cluny do you have Jesus in you? In your heart? If you do have Jesus in your heart as you say you do then you have his power in you. Cause Jesus is not powerless if you have him then you have his power. This is were religion of man makes the word powerless. You can have Jesus but you can't have his power? You can't have faith for limbs to grow out but you can have faith for people to die and go to hell?
---Bryan on 6/11/14

Never said it was me it is the Jesus in me. Does the Jesus in do miracles through you? He is not powerless. But again you will say show me show me. If I did you should know who did it. The Jesus in me. It takes faith to produce what is not seen. But you don't believe you have faith for what is not seen.
---Bryan on 6/11/14

\\What does John 15 , 7 mean to you? Any thing but healing right?
---Bryan on 6/10/14\\

When you give me the names of amputees you've prayed for who have grown new limbs, then I will know it's talking about you, Bryan.


May I remind you that Satan and the Pharisees quoted Scriptures to Jesus (and got them better than you do, btw), but were they "sowing the Word" to Him?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/10/14

What does John 15 , 7 mean to you? Any thing but healing right?
---Bryan on 6/10/14

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But you're not showing the power of God, Bryan.

You'd rather do anything than admit you got not one, but THREE Bible accounts mixed up.

In short, Bryan, I believe in the power of God.

I just don't believe YOU.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/9/14

Mixing up Bible stories may not blemish the power of God.

But it does blemish YOU, Bryan, and makes what you say untrustworthy by people who actually know the Bible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/9/14

// If your a follower of Jesus these signs will follow those who believe. You will be custed out by believers who don't believe Jesus heals people today//

Believers in Christ do believe that Jesus is healing many today, and will continue to heal many in the future. None will be lost before their time. People will live to their appointed time.
What we do not believe is who you say you are. And who you say everyone else is. No one denies the power of God. Everyone denies your power, and your preaching, and the religion you build up in yourself. You said you could heal others, and you were asked to pray for those without limbs, and they never received any new limbs. What is up with that? Agape
---Luke on 6/10/14

Mixing the stories does not blemish the power of God. Does not negate the healing Jesus did and still does today. May in your religion but not in the Gospel Jesus sets you free and who the son sets free is free indeed.
---Bryan on 6/9/14

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---Bryan on 6/8/14
Bryan, Hebrews tells us as we see in Acts and the Gospels that the Gospel was accompanied by signs wonders and miracles for one PROVE the Apostles were sent by God, just as Jesus preformed miracles to show He was God.

TODAY we don't need others to go around laying on hands to heal another just for the sake of healing. Healing was never done just for the sake of healing.

But TODAY, if God so chooses to heal one, one's own personal faith will suffice.
---kathr4453 on 6/9/14

But not in the river, like you originally posted.

NOR did Jesus tell the blind man to show himself to the priests, like you also posted.

Bryan. I've been wondering.

Is English your first language?

If it isn't, could that be why you confuse "river" with "pool"?

That also might explain your solecisms and grammatical errors.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/9/14

So Jesus does tell a blind man to go wash so he can receive his sight?
---Bryan on 6/9/14

\\John chapter 9 verses 1 through 8 should cover that.
---Bryan on 6/8/14\\

There's nothing about washing in a river in this story, or having the formerly blind man showing himself to the priest--BOTH of which you have claimed.

So no, John 9 does not cover this.

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/9/14

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John chapter 9 verses 1 through 8 should cover that.
---Bryan on 6/8/14

\\Jesus told one man go wash in a river to be healed.\\

BCV, please.

This is NOWHERE in the Gospels.

Bryan, how can you possibly be sowing the word when you don't even know it?

Happy Pentecost!
---Cluny on 6/8/14

Have a question do you think I'm Jesus? Thanks hate to break your heart I'm not. Just a sower of the Gospel of my Savior. If your a follower of Jesus these signs will follow those who believe. You will be custed out by believers who don't believe Jesus heals people today. You will be told praying in tongue has stopped. You will be told see God does not do miracles any more. This is your victories life? Sounds like a man made gospel to me. Give me those please? Religions suck the life of Christ out of you.
---Bryan on 6/8/14

Luke just you praying is the only act of faith? Jesus spit on the ground made to balls of mud. Act of faith. Jesus told one man go wash in a river to be healed. Some he just his hands on. Luke until you change your sowing habits. If you don't believe the Jesus in you can heal people he want. But there those who do and your disbelieve will never stop us. Faith is what makes what is not seen. It take fairh to make something you don't see "appear". Know this you have the measure of faith. Follow Jesus
---Bryan on 6/8/14

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\\That when you pray for someone God gives them new limbs.\\

In fairness to Bryan, he's never said that. In fact, I note he's avoided the issue.

But contrary to what he's said about me, I've made it abundantly clear what I believe.

1. I believe the articles of the classical creeds with a firmness that would make Bryan (and most of the others here) look like Unitarians.

2. While I'm not a dispensationalist, I believe that the return of the Savior is imminent, and at His return, all the prophecies concerning it will be fulfilled.

Is there anything else I need to explain? Unfortunately, I can't draw pictures and post them here.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/7/14

Dear Bryan,
do you see what happens when people trust in what you say? Nothing. My friend has not received new limbs. You said, if you have faith, and you say you do. That when you pray for someone God gives them new limbs. Have you done greater works then Jesus? I have not heard of you on the news. If you are doing greater works, and all those people who believe in what you say are doing greater works, why is this not in the news? Jesus was in the news, the whole world over knows about what He did. Why not what you have done? or others who think like you do?
Can you answer that question? At least that one? Agape
---Luke on 6/7/14

Understanding Jesus. How many of you are born again? It took faith to reach that point. All of you say salvation are begin born again is a Greatest miracle. You were given faith for the Greatest miracle, and now you have no more Faith? Jesus said if you follow him he heals you. Jesus said the things that I do you will do to and Greater things than me, cause he go to the father for us. Then a Apostle said after doing all stand don't back down. The woman who went to Jesus who wasn't even Jewish did not back down for her daughter did she, even the dogs get the crumbs from the master's table she said. Jesus was marveled at her faith.
---Bryan on 6/6/14

Luke when did Jesus become mcdonaldse? I have faith for his healing do you? Does he? Wanting and faith are not the samething. Is he miss a foot, leg, arm, eye? Act of faith go buy him a pair of shoes. He will need them. Buy him a pair of gloves for his hand he will need them. For his eyes get him a pair of sunglasses for his eyes will need protection form the sun. Faith is the substance if things hoped for. A act of faith is is not just talking about your God show a little power is God. 100 present.
---Bryan on 6/6/14

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My God's son Jesus said I can your made up religion tells you, you can't. So what are you sowing? Through your religion you can't? But through Jesus Christ all things are possible for those who believe. Your just not there yet. Faith Quality and quantity it only takes the measure which you have, it was given to to you. This is were religion is deceitful. Telling people they don't have enough faith. You sow the words of it can't happen guess what you reap? People have the measure of faith they just need the word coming out of them. It moves mountians.
---Bryan on 6/6/14

\\God has told us that our faith is limited, that if we had the faith the size of a mustard seed we could move mountains.\\

There's something else here.

It's not the size as much as the quality.

Mustard seeds are ground to make that potent and pungent condiment in various shades of yellow and brown we like to use to flavor our foods.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/6/14

Dear Bryan,
My friend is still waiting for his limbs to appear. Have you been praying for them? You said you believed, and your faith is greater then any of ours, why is it not happening? Agape
---Luke on 6/6/14

God ask you what is your limit?
---Bryan on 6/5/14

Where does God ask anyone what is your limit?

God has told us that our faith is limited, that if we had the faith the size of a mustard seed we could move mountains.

And people have used these words to create a movement named "Word of Faith" telling many that all they have to do is speak what they want, have faith in God, and God will make it happen.

You sound like a person within this movement.

But what is the reality of this movement?

It flies against 1 Peter, James, and many other passages that teach that we must daily crucify our flesh, our desires for pleasure and prosperity, to become as Christ, selfless and other-centered.
---Mark_Eaton on 6/6/14

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What is the need to run 100 mph? Man can fly, man can go under water and breath. In fact man has went to the moon and breathing all the way. You think so small of God. You have all you need in you.
---Bryan on 6/5/14

Bryan, you've still not told us how many amputees have grown new limbs by your prayers.

Do you go to funerals and tell the corpses to rise from the dead? Why not?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/5/14

What has man done? Fky like a bird, under water for weeks at at a time. Even went to the moon and back. Build buildings 100s of stories high. You folks and your religions think so small of God. He just keeps on giving and giving and giving and giving. Your father is God, what will be your limit? On how he heals people? That's your limit. We ride in chariots that don't need horses pulling them. We write the word on eagles wings so the whole world can see it. satellite what is your limits? God ask you what is your limit? When God speaks he is talking to all of us. Not just the once that are saved but to all.
---Bryan on 6/5/14

The three boys in the fiery furnace did they suffer? You know we have a great covanent than they did. What about King David killed a giant with just a stone from a sling, little help from the Holy Spirit, also killed aLion and a bear. Why do you get so angry when people think out side your religious rules. My judge is God. Jesus sowed the Gospel on the earth it is still producing to this everyday either you let burn in you as a light for the world or it will burn you up.
---Bryan on 6/5/14

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All things means all thing. ---Bryan on 6/5/14

Can you fly like a bird? Can you breathe under water? Can you run 100 mph? Can you resurrect yourself after you die?

You see, you CANNOT do ALL things. It is your flesh that is talking, your pride, your ego.

You also need to read Scripture in context. What I take Phil 4:13 to really say is this:

Phil 4:13 "I can abide, suffer, or bear all things thru Christ who strengthens me"

I find this understanding in line with the context of the verse.
---Mark_Eaton on 6/5/14

\\A servant can be equals to his master. \\

This is the exact opposite of what Jesus said, Bryan.

Doesn't it bother you in the least to oppose Jesus?

Glory to Jesus Christ!!
---Cluny on 6/5/14

This is what I find very funny you all speak of how great God is. But you would not believe his word. Philippians 4:13. So how will you believe in something you can see? All things means all thing. How you believe his word is how it will produce in your on life. A servant can be equals to his master. You have the measure of faith it will produce how you believe health or sickness, life or death. The word is the only thing that produces. This is why Jesus always told us to sow the Gospel.
---Bryan on 6/5/14

Brian...not until YOU get thru with it?? Where did you get the idea you can control your years. God knows exactly the day you will die but you don't have a clue when you will die. God never said I will tell you when you die. He did promise us a long life if we honor our parents.
---shira4368 on 6/5/14

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\Thank you Jesus he promised 80 years\\

Bryan, I must ask, how old are you now, and how many more years do you have before you reach 80? Or did He promise 80 additional years from the time He told you 80 years. One reason I was wondering is so I will be able to know at least when the Rapture will not take place.
---kathr4453 on 6/4/14

I know my flesh will turn back to dust. But not until I'm through with it. Thank you Jesus he promised 80 years...
---Bryan on 6/3/14

I think you need to read the Bible more thoroughly, not just your favorite passages. You are not promised 80 years, you are not promised tomorrow.

James 4:13-16 "Come now, you who say, Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit, whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away. Instead you ought to say, If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that. But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.
---Mark_Eaton on 6/4/14

Why would I need to tell you. Are you official miracle recorder for God? Jesus sent out 70 people to do his will. I think he has sent out more that 70 by now. No were in the new testament can I finded any were Jesus kills anybody that is following him. I can find were he heals them but kills them I don't see.
---Bryan on 6/4/14

\\Thank you Jesus he promised 80 years\\

BCV from the Gospels, please.

**Funny the God who created the world with just his word can't heal a amputee? That is what your say to Jesus?
---Bryan on 6/3/14**

If you walk around your city for a couple of days, or even a mall or senior citizens' center, you'll be sure to find an amputee.

Pray for this amputee, and tell us if s/he grew the limb back, OK?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/4/14

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//Jesus gives life not death.//

Dear Bryan,
I am here again to answer one of your statements. First, you do know that Jesus is God, Right? Do you know that God gives life and also takes it away? When you are born He gives you life, when you die, He removes that life from you. Agape
---Luke on 6/4/14

Bryan, aging is a part of life now because of SIN. The result of this sin cannot be cured in our lifetime.
---kathr4453 on 6/4/14

Aging is apart of life. Growing old is apart of life. Leaving when you deside is apart of the Gospel dying of a diseases or heart act or getting killed in a car reck or how about falling off a building. Those are not natural. How about a drug overdose think those are death by the enemy. Jesus gives life not death. I know my flesh will turn back to dust. But not until I'm through with it. Thank you Jesus he promised 80 years not me he did and he said goodness and mercuy would follow me all those days to. This is my seed might not be your but it my seed thank you Jesus.
---Bryan on 6/3/14

Why not cluny that would be act of faith in the eyes of Jesus. Telling them they will never have their limb again is a act of faith? Your's is suppose to be the only way to walk by faith? God want heal cause your not Godly enough for healing? Pharisees threaten to kill Jesus for healing people still happening today kick you out of church for believing in healing somebody or the devil did it.
---Bryan on 6/3/14

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Funny the God who created the world with just his word can't heal a amputee? That is what your say to Jesus?
---Bryan on 6/3/14

//Because this is what everybody tells a amputee.//

I didn't tell that to the amputee I know. I told him you were going to pray for him and to wait for his new limbs. I told him what you said. He is so happy you can do that for him. Agape
---Luke on 6/3/14

\\Because this is what everybody tells a amputee.\\

So when are you going to start going up to amputees and offering to pray they will grow new limbs, Bryan?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/3/14

Bryan, did you know "aging" is a disease. Everyone has it and will eventually die from it. There is no cure. Or are you the exception of someone who is going to live in your flesh forever and never age?

Isaiah 53:5
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and with his stripes we are healed.

1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Neither of these verses say "the chastisement of our diseases or "you should live unto good health". Please pay attention and rightly divide the Word of Truth.
---kathr4453 on 6/3/14

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Because this is what everybody tells a amputee. Learn to live without it. Were is Jesus in that statment? Why do you let the world system tell you what God want or can't do. If God has given us Jesus, and Jesus lives in you where is faith in you statments. If you don't see the miracle happen right after you pray you say. See God does not heal. Give the word time to grow. The word is alive when you planet seeds do they produce in a second? Some planet some water God provides the increase. Gospel of Jesus Christ.
---Bryan on 6/3/14

Jesus got into boat and said, "Let us go to the other side" then he went to sleep. What did the followers and disciples say when the storm came up? They said this to Jesus, "don't you care that we die" just like today Jesus don't you care! That is what I hear when you say he doesn't heal amputees or any diseases. What did Jesus say back to those with him. First he stopped the storm then he said where is your "Faith". Why would he say that. They did not have faith in Jesus's statment "we are going to the other side". By my strips you are healed.
---Bryan on 6/3/14

// Most amputees don't know Jesus heals. Because your religion tells people Jesus don't heal any more.//

Most amputees do not believe what you say Bryan, but lets suppose that what you say is true. And you know that God can hear your prayers no matter where you and they are. Why don't you pray for all of them so they can get new limbs? Your prayer should work from wherever you live, since God is Omnipresent "everywhere at one time" I know a person who has no legs, I will call him to see if he got new limbs. I'm counting on your prayer Bryan.
---Luke on 6/3/14

I cannot believe you say most amputees don't know God heals. where do you get stuff like that? that's like saying the people who live in this house or that house don't know about God. our bodies are corrupt and God can heal but He never promised to heal but He will heal if it is in His will to do so. actually I don't have any knowledge of anyone ever growing a new limb. God did promise He would be here for you and He wants you to depend on Him.
---shira4368 on 6/2/14

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\\Most amputees don't know Jesus heals. \\

In other words, no amputees you've prayed for have grown new limbs.

\\Because your religion tells people Jesus don't heal any more.\\

But I've never said that. Please quote where I did.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/2/14

Most amputees don't know Jesus heals. Because your religion tells people Jesus don't heal any more. Are you tell them things like they need more faith. Truth is they have the measure of faith to move mountains if you sow healing what will you reap sickness? I think not Jesus said you will reap what you sow. If a amputee ask me to prayer for them I would. Jesus is still the healer not me. He works through the body. Don't you believe him?
---Bryan on 6/1/14

Then why don't you believe cluny? He has never changed teach people the truth. They have the measure of faith to recieve salvation which you even said was the greatest healing of all healings. They don't need me to pray for them to be healed. They need the truth then the rest is up to them. When you sow the truth it will manifest produce 30, 60, even up to 100 fold "persent" in peoples life's.
---Bryan on 6/2/14

My on daughter was born without pupils, blinded. I prayed asked Jesus to restore her eyes did it happen the second I prayed no. Did I say oh God why did you not heal her. No that is not what I did ever day I would say thank you Jesus for restoring her vision two weeks went by no change we were at the eye doctor and her pupils grew right in front of the doctor. God is good all the time. God heals most don't believe because they don't understand how the word works.
---Bryan on 6/1/14

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\\Do you believe Jesus lives in you? \\

No. I don't believe this.

i KNOW He does.

\\Then why would he not be able to us you to lay your hands on people so they would be healed?\\

Bryan, how many amputees have you prayed for have grown new limbs?

There's a sweet toddler in our church who was born with a deformed hand. I dare you to come pray for him to be granted a perfect one.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/1/14

Just tell me just tell me. He who has ears to hear let him hear. He who has eyes to see let him see. Do you believe Jesus lives in you? Then why would he not be able to us you to lay your hands on people so they would be healed? Stripture is clear about this point. It is not you living any more but it is Christ living through you. Doing his fathers will. It's his will no man parish. His will for you is that you prosper and be in health even as your soul prospers. How will you soul prosper if your not sowing the Gospel? Knowing the Jesus is a good thing but sowing him gets him growing in your life. Matt:13, Mark 4, Luke 8.
---Bryan on 6/1/14

\\ When your share the Gospel you don't have to prove anything the Gospel will prove it's self.
---Bryan on 5/31/14\\

In other words, "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" means nothing to you, Bryan.

Christ has made you free to say whatever you want, whether it's true or false.

Is that what you mean?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/1/14

Tried all those things. No fruit. Started sowing the Gospel nobody can stand against it. It's seed will grow larger than any religion. Who the son sets free is free indeed. It is all Jesus ever told us to do. When your share the Gospel you don't have to prove anything the Gospel will prove it's self.
---Bryan on 5/31/14

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\\When you say to people he does not heal any more? When you tell people God does not fill them with the Holy Spirit and power any more.\\

Please tell me where I've said this.

Give the exact quote by cutting and pasting.

If you cannot, please retract your slanderous questions. All I've done is quote Bible verses that apparently you've never heard of.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/31/14

Shira I do this also. I not only wish to understand the differences between other denominations of Christianity but also of other religions. It is ONLY by knowing what others believe, and WHY they believe it, that we can seriously witness to them. I've been criticized for reading up on what Mormons, J.W.s, Moonies etc. believe. Others seem to think I'm at risk of being swayed by them but if I don't know what they believe how can I say in what way, and why, they are wrong?

If we wish to witness to non-believers we need to know exactly what we are talking about (and what we are dealing with) otherwise we make ourselves look foolish and uneducated.
---Rita_H on 6/1/14

Bryan I try to learn about other denominations so I can know what others believe. The internet is a good source to learning the pros and cons of other denominations. Whatever does not line up with the Word of God you can throw out.
---shira4368 on 5/31/14

What pleases him cluny? When you say to people he does not heal any more? When you tell people God does not fill them with the Holy Spirit and power any more. Telling them they don't have the same measure of faith as any body else. They have the same right to healing as any body else. They have the same Jesus with them as the apostles had. He has never changed. Are do you tell them he has changed. The Gospel sets people free. Religion never set people free it is man made.
---Bryan on 5/31/14

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\\My apologies I find myself battling through religions of men.\\

What you're saying is you are upset when people don't roll over and admit you're right.

I quote the Holy Gospels to you and you indulge in personal attacks instead of refuting what I said.

But to answer the question you asked at the beginning, it doesn't matter WHAT we think happens when the word is sown.

God said, "My word shall NOT return to me void. It shall accomplish that which **I** [not you, Bryan] please..."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/31/14

My apologies I find myself battling through religions of men. More than hearing the Gospel. On this site not that it's that way all the time. There are some time I do hear Jesus coming through them and that is refeshing.
---Bryan on 5/30/14

Byran - Insult? If I did that was not my intention at all. My intention was to show how this verse plays out in the life of a christian

Learned Behavior = Sanctification - the process we go through to become more holy like Jesus.

vs 26 seed - is almost always related to the word of God being spread and applied to humans, ex Gala. Ch5 v 22

vs 29 the harvest - is the transformation of the person from sinful lifestyle to less sinful to be more like Jesus

This is a next step mentality of never stop growing to be more like Christ. A new christian is saved by grace but his life is not very holy. After learning disciplines: prayer, fasting, Bible reading, etc we recognize sin and thus try to quit doing it.
---Scott1 on 5/30/14

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