I cannot quote the whole Enchiridion here.
There is no place in the Enchiridion that Augustine used the words "felix culpa."
Wiki tells where "felix culpa" is derived (see derived?).
"Derived" does not mean "cited" nor does it mean "quoted."
Wiki also gives the Augustine quote from which the idea of "felix culpa" derives, which has neither "felix" nor "culpa" in it.
The premise is there, the words are not.
Augustine did not write "felix culpa."
Nicole, you have yet to prove your statement that he did write it. It should be easy enough.
Until then, sufficient evidence, that you brought forward, shows that you are wrong.
---micha9344 on 9/24/15|
Even your wiki shows who cited "felix culpa":
/The medieval theologian Thomas Aquinas cited this line...\You are wrong. ---micha9344
Micha, I will explain Wikipedia to you.
Type felix culpa and in Wikapedia go down to end and it will say Reference:
'The Enchiridion' is by St. Augustine of Hippo as cited:
The Enchiridion, Manual, or Handbook of Augustine of Hippo is alternatively titled, "Faith, Hope, and Love. FIRST.
St Thomas Aquinas was born 7 CENTURIES later and expanded on St. Augustine's writings of O Felix culpa.
Read 'The Enchiridion' WRITING BY ST. AUGUSTINE.
You can't come 15 centuries later DENY St. Augustine's writing.
GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/24/15|
I didn't overlook a thing, but thanks for the false accusation.
and now the rest of Wiki:
/The Latin expression felix culpa derives from the writings of St. Augustine regarding the Fall of Man, the source of original sin: For God judged it better to bring good out of evil than not to permit any evil to exist. (in Latin: Melius enim iudicavit de malis benefacere, quam mala nulla esse permittere.)
Notice there is no "felix culpa."
In Augustine's Expository of Psalms 27, we read the same:
Melius enim iudicavit de malis bene facere, quam mala nulla esse permittere
Even your wiki shows who cited "felix culpa":
/The medieval theologian Thomas Aquinas cited this line...\
You are wrong.
---micha9344 on 9/23/15|
Micha, take a deep breath.
You over LOOKED where I cited that St. Augustine of Hippo spoke of felix culpa.
I will repost it:
The Enchiridion, Manual, or Handbook of Augustine of Hippo is alternatively titled, "Faith, Hope, and Love".--Nicole_Lacey on 9/22/15
Again, Prove St Augustine DIDN'T write it.
Not using your words, but citing from another source (other than yourself) SAYING he didn't write it.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/22/15|
/PROVE Augustine didn't write it!\
This is a ludacris statement.
I would have to provide all of Augustine's writings.
On the other hand, all you would have to do is provide the Latin quote from Augustine to prove me wrong, which you have yet to do.
/"The Latin expression felix culpa derives from the writings of St. Augustine regarding the Fall of Man, the source of original sin"- Wikipedia\
See the word "derives"?
This is much different than "he wrote it."
He did not write it, He writings were the "inspiration", if you will, of it.
That is all I posted in the beginning, yet was vehemently and continually denounced,
You were wrong.
/SLOW enough for you?\-Nicole_Lacey on 9/22/15
---micha9344 on 9/22/15|
1st felix culpa is Latin, so no translation needed.
2nd PROVE Augustine didn't write it!
There are MANY St. Augustine, which have to be separated by country or city they are from.
I didn't write Hippo and you might have entered another Augustine.
No matter, we shall go over it s-l-o-w-e-r.
"The Latin expression felix culpa derives from the writings of St. Augustine regarding the Fall of Man, the source of original sin"- Wikipedia and their references is citing:
The Enchiridion, Manual, or Handbook of Augustine of Hippo is alternatively titled, "Faith, Hope, and Love".
SLOW enough for you?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/22/15|
Cluny I hope you are doing better,I'm still praying for you. Nicole Lacey yes thank you we are getting some rest and I'm going to see some medical specialist to try and find out why I am getting weaker and weaker all year. Thanks for the prayers. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/21/15|
They are in my prayers and esp you. I hope you and your husband are resting.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/16/15|
Nicole Lacey and any who prayed thank you. My brother-in-law is buried and our hearts miss him greatly. Please pray for all but our great grandchildren especially,the 13 year old girl and 10 year old boy are taking it very hard,the three year doesn't quite understand of course. The older ones even cried in school bless them. When the youngest was told Uncle was in heaven with Jesus,she said "I'll have to call Jesus then." God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/16/15|
I can't because I'm not physically able but wish I was there too....Darlene_1
Knowing Thyself is godly.
Don't feel bad.
Many people can't and I have to stop family members from trying to FORCE the other member to be at the dying person side.
Sorry about his death, but I am glad he died without pain.
Tell your husband to put on the boxing gloves, but to keep peace in his heart.
Don't let stress influence his health.
Walking away and not answering the phone sometime is the only answer for PEACE.
We have to call the police to make up fights between family members before the person who died has turned cold.
There in ONE in EVERY family.
Money esp FREE MONEY changes some people
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/10/15|
Nicole Lacey thanks for everything. Our Brother died a little while ago. Now please pray my husbands other Brother isn't a troublemaker when he and my husband split the Estate. My husband is in charge legally but his younger brother is the greedy type so much so the only time he came to see the brother who died was to ask for money. He was even very harsh spoken over my dying Brother about his care and no one but my husband took care of him. I don't want trouble. My husband doesn't deserve it. I know God can bring peace to anything. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/9/15|
Our Brother is being given morphine now so he won't hurt and have a peaceful transition from life to be with the Lord. My husband,both our son and daughter,my husbands niece and his other brother are all over with my husband,I can't because I'm not physically able but wish I was there too. Thank you for all your prayers. God bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/8/15|
Hospice now and isn't eating but praise God not in pain,at least we know with Hospice he won't suffer.---Darlene_1
You know Darlene, I have been in Hospice for 15 years and God amazes me so much.
Did you know why people on Hospice won't eat?
Because the stomach gut is slowly dying and not able to process the food intake.
The stomach will not allow anything to just sit inside, so the body forces it out from the mouth or the other end.
So, God is so Merciful that he shuts down the appetite center in the brain in order to prevent people from eating too much.
Usually, ice cream is the best food for breakfast, lunch and supper.
Easy to eat, easy on the stomach and the only taste bud left on the tongue besides salt.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/8/15|
Cluny, I hope you will get better. It has been over 2 years since I have been on this web site because of health issues.
---rob on 9/8/15|
Nicole Lacey thank you that is some very good input and advice. I wrote to you but they haven't put it on. Yes my husband would always put my needs first but I want him to be there for our brother. I am an only child and he is the closest thing to a brother I ever had. He and his wife(in heaven now) were also our best friends,and travel buddies. We both would like to be with him if he passes but of course we pray he is healed. Our brother is on Hospice now and isn't eating but praise God not in pain,at least we know with Hospice he won't suffer. You are so sweet and thoughtful thank you for your prayers and kind concern. I know when we cover anything with prayer God will see us through. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/7/15|
Darlene, I am saying your husband LOVES you more than anyone.
As all wives, you all conceal your illness so not comprised your husband's health.
But, I promise you this. Ask any man what is their worst NIGHTMARE?
Their Wife DYING before them.
All husbands want to die before their wives.
(Normal men at least)
Telling your husband to please rest a while with you isn't going to disappoint him.
He doesn't want to put his brother ahead of you.
No matter how much he loves him. He believes you are okay and goes and visit his brother making himself exhausted.
You have to make him and yourself take time to REST and mediate on Jesus.
Or just sit in your easy chairs next to each other.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/6/15|
Darlene be CAREFUL. Stress can make you sick. People who go to the hospital and sit all day can't understand why are they are so tired when they go home. Saying "All I did was sit all day."
What they don't know is that being in the hospital worrying about the love one in the bed, unable to do anything/control is the problem.
Internally the body is dumping sugar into the blood stream causing stress. Which as you and I know how stress does to the body.
Tell your husband that God KNOWS what he can handle. Maybe God knows he can't handle being at his side at death. Or maybe he can.
TRUST is the only solution.
But you need to tell your husband of your illness so he can care for you.
PRIORITIES. Prayers always
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/6/15|
Nicole Lacey I have some bad news,my Brother-in-law you've been praying for has lung cancer and they think in other parts of the body too. They said he isn't a candidate for surgery or Chemo due to age,he's 87.Just pray for a miracle but if God doesn't go that route then he doesn't suffer. Pray for my husband because he will be there for him he goes every day unless sick. Pray he doesn't make himself sick. He has gotten over the pneumonia but has fluid around his lungs but is doing better he 82. There is something wrong with me,I've been getting weaker all year,I'm very weak now but trusting God he will bring me through. I don't want to put more on my husband with a sick wife. Nicole and thank you all who prayed. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/2/15|
///I miss the poster elder. What ever happened to him? Does any one know?
---Seeker on 8/31/15///
Seek & you shall find, elder. :)
---Leon on 8/31/15|
Nicole Lacey thanks for all the prayers. The doctors will be doing tests on him and then figure out the treatment. Glory to God,the cows were moved to safety and no men hurt and it's been raining there. God Bless. If anyone else prayed thank you.
---Darlene_1 on 8/31/15|
I miss the poster elder. What ever happened to him? Does any one know?
---Seeker on 8/31/15|
Darlene, I am so sorry. Ask the doctor about steroid low doses for weight gain.
Your whole family are in my prayers.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/31/15|
Nicole Lacey please keep praying for my husbands brother losing weight,and still not healing,they think he may have cancer of some sort. Thanks so much and anyone else who prayed. Also fire is near our friends/daughters(by love adoption) land and they are moving stock right now. Pray God will protect their place,stock,the men,women, and all outbuildings and stock pens,crops and pets. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 8/29/15|
No, Strongaxe, you still don't know what an accident means in philosophy sphere.
..is a document written on paper. By your terminology, the "substance" is the legal text, while the "accident" is paper and ink.---StrongAxe
No because you can see the paper or ink without it being in book. Ink is visible.
Can you see cold? No
Can you see hot? No
Can you see wind? No
You see stuff flying in the air and know it is the wind swinging the object.
You can feel the cold in the tea, but you CAN'T SEE THE COLD.
You can feel the stove being hot, but YOU CAN'T SEE THE HOT.
Steam isn't hot.
COLDNESS OR HOT CAN'T exist without something else.
That is what is called accident.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/10/15|
Darlene, good about the wound vacs. The next thing is that the nurses wash their hands good and long before changing the bandages on the wounds.
My prayers continue.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/8/15|
They removed the Prayer for my Brother-in-law Blog therefore I came here to thank all of you who prayed for him. Nicole yes they do have the vacuum on the bedsore that's the worst and he is getting better plus the lesser ones are healing now too. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 8/7/15|
Cluny I am praying for you,may you see the move of God's hand in your behalf very quickly. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 7/5/15|
I think he went to Phoenix.
---Rod4Him on 7/5/15|
Cluny is a cool guy.
---learner2 on 7/4/15|
May the LORD be with you Cluny.
Father in Heaven please watch over and keep your child. If it be your will raise him up and heal him.
In Jesus name we pray. Amen.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/4/15|
Sorry to hear that Cluny.
I am praying for you.
---Nicole_Lacey on 7/4/15|
\\Cluny, it has been 16 days since you posted on this certain blog.
How are you doing?\\
Having some health and med issues. Pray for me.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/4/15|
Cluny, it has been 16 days since you posted on this certain blog.
How are you doing?
---micha9344 on 7/4/15|
Cluny was here again today!
---learner2 on 6/23/15|
learner2: Jesus is having a discussion with Nicodemus in John 3:1-21. In verse 8, the Lord compares the Holy Spirits effect on a persons life to the movement of wind. Nicodemus could see the winds consequence, even if he did not fully understand the study of Anemology. Here list (G2309 thelo) means desire. Some Bible versions translate the word as desire, pleases, wants to, wills, or wishes.
Cluny: Only 60+ comments to go!
---Glenn on 6/19/15|
In this context the word listeth means 'wants to', so the wind bloweth where it wants to (or where God decides).
It is old fashioned English just as is the other meaning - listeth - making a list. Many words ended with 'eth' centuries ago which now just end with an 's'. e.g Goeth = goes, walketh = walks.
---Rita_H on 6/19/15|
\\What does "listeth" mean?\\
In this context, it means "wherever it goes."
Many ancient people thought the winds had a will like human beings.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/19/15|
What does "listeth" mean?
---learner2 on 6/18/15|
- Would be very interested to see in what year this blog reaches 75 answers.
John 3:8, "The wind bloweth where it listeth"....
---Glenn on 6/18/15|
The Christianet people were at a conference for a little over a week.
---learner2 on 6/16/15|
So glad, Cluny -- the more the better!
---Geraldine on 6/16/15|
Cluny, I laughed so hard when I saw this post.
Are they trying to give you a hint?
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/16/15|
I think whoever handles these blogs must have been on vacation as there were no submissions for over a week.
---KarenD on 6/16/15|
I'm still here, Geraldine, and still posting.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/16/15|