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Building Of The Ark

There's a Biblical theme park based on a full sized reconstruction of Noah's Ark. Why did God tell Noah to build the ark himself instead of miraculously materializing it for him?

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kathr4453:

You wrote: Strongaxe, If he's going to continue to diagnose others, he shouldn't whine like a little girl when the diagnosis is returned.

Even if correct, the fact that someone else does something wrong to you does not make it right for you to return the same kind of wrong behavior to them.

Just like TRUMP. EXACTLY LIKE TRUMP. No one minds diagnosing Trump now do they?

Professional psychologists and psychiatrists have done that. I don't believe either you or I qualify in that regard. I'm also pretty sure you're not qualified to determine what kinds of fluids are inside someone's brain based solely on their writings. Such a diagnosis is not a medical opinion. It is pure spite.
---StrongAxe on 12/11/19


Strongaxe, If he's going to continue to diagnose others, he shouldn't whine like a little girl when the diagnosis is returned.

He knows NOTHING about specific learning issues and has proved his ignorance in that area and continues to bully others based on his own ignorance. I'm sure he feels godly and holy and almost God like because he sees himself as perfect and measures others to himself. That's what I call a brute bully. He has been one here for YEARS with his arrogant snipes to others. Actually people like Cluny are insecure people who bully to hit back at their imaginary enemies out of their own insecurities. Just like TRUMP. EXACTLY LIKE TRUMP. No one minds diagnosing Trump now do they? So why not Cluny? Same ol bullying.
---kathr4453 on 12/11/19


kathr4453:

You wrote: Again Cluny falsely diagnosing others misrepresenting their posts.

If you don't want others to falsely diagnose you, you should refrain from falsely diagnosing them (e.g. by talking about what they may have in their brain, or what they sit around in).

"Do unto others as they do unto you" is reactive, and lets them set the agenda. You lower yourself to their level.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is proactive, and lets YOU set the agenda. You raise them up to your level. This is literally the Golden Rule.
---StrongAxe on 12/10/19


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Again Cluny falsely diagnosing others misrepresenting their posts. I never said I was on Einsteins level, LIAR, I simply said even Einstein, along with MANY a very intelligent man AND WOMEN could not spell. \\

If that's not claiming to be on Einstein's intelligence level, then words have no meanings.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/10/19


Again Cluny falsely diagnosing others misrepresenting their posts. I never said I was on Einsteins level, LIAR, I simply said even Einstein, along with MANY a very intelligent man AND WOMEN could not spell. We've been over this many times, yet you clearly see yourself as an expert on the subject making FALSE DIAGNOSIS of others, and then cry foul when I return the same. You're a snowflake of the weakest kind Cluny, whining on every blog how I said this or that, yet you fail to see YOU STARTED IT, and then insist you can continue without question with your badgering....WRONG.
---kathr4453 on 12/7/19




Cluny:

None of us has perfect grammar, spelling, or punctuation. Sccasional mistakes do not prove one's arguments invalid.

This also applies to scripture. Hebrew scriptures have 7 DIFFERENT spellings of Nebuchadnezzer. One replaces the second N by R (I looked it up once during an argument with Eloy, who claimed it added up to 666 - ridiculous, as each spelling adds up to a different number, and none = 666).

I lost respect for Bertrand Russell after reading "Why I am Not a Christian". He, allegedly the greatest logician of the 20th century, said he didn't believe in God because Christians led imperfect lifestyles. This was like saying "I don't believe in Relativity because Einstein had messy hair".
---StrongAxe on 12/5/19


I did that on perpuss Clunky just to get a rize out of you, and just as I planned, you jumped to the occuseoun ....too funny.

Ok, so now we nead to descuss Howe two Seattle this constent childish behaveour.

That should keep you busy for a while Clunky. LOWAROTF
---kathr4453 on 12/5/19


//I believe according to many places in scripture Noah built an ARC according to exactly how God designed it, //

kath, the word is spelled ARK.

Your inability to spell words does NOT put you on the intellectual level of Einstein, so don't act like it does, as you frequently have in the past.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/4/19


Thank you JS1234.

I believe according to many places in scripture Noah built an ARC according to exactly how God designed it, measurements and all, and preached for those 100 plus years before the flood, and literally only 8 souls were saved. I also believe as scripture states Noah sent out birds to see if the water levels had receded, and when they did not return he knew the water was receding. I also believe Noah planted a vineyard after the flood and got drunk, most probably not knowing after the flood the juice of the grape fermented much faster after the flood.

Metaphors don't have continuing history and such detail.
---kathr4453 on 12/4/19


I personally believe that the story of Noah's Ark is a myth and a metaphor.
---JS1234 on 12/3/19




Noah's ark is not a metaphor. Noah was also not a metaphor. For the ark to be a metaphor so would Noah and family. And we have then Peter lying saying only 8 souls were saved and so on, never says THATS a metaphor....YIKES. Where do people come up with this garbage ?

Like I've said before JS1234 loves causing disscension on these issues. It might be better JS1234 to say "I personally believe" ...rather than stating it as a fact. That's only your personal opinion.
---kathr4453 on 12/3/19


The story of Noah's Ark is a myth and a metaphor.
---JS1234 on 11/30/19


God gave to man intelligence and a physical body to function in a physical world.
God expects man to do what he can do.

What if God had made it Noah's responsibility to miraculously materialize the ark using his faith?

What if God made it your responsibility to miraculously materialize your home, your car, your food, your clothes by using your faith?

With a challenge like that.. I would think that a lot of Christians would truly have nothing.
There would not be any need for a vow of poverty because most Christians don't use faith to have the basic things in life.

They get what they have by an honest days work.
---Ianns on 11/30/19


God had Noah to build the ark so that we could see by evidence the faith of Noah. Noah was walking by faith and not sight. His obedience to God was rewarded in his timely salvation. Building the ark did not save him eternally but it did save him from being destroyed along with the wicked.
---trey on 3/8/17


And why did God make us male and female instead of making us all like Adam from dust? I suppose it was God wanting to involve us in his work and checking our obedience. Noah was a good listener.
---mike4879 on 1/4/17


I want to visit the Ark.---Samuelbb7 on 10/22/16

I am serious.

Are you pulling my leg?

Turkey has allowed people on the mountain to examine that 'edge' object of something sticking out in the snow?

The last I heard 10 years ago, Turkey isn't allowing any investigation teams to take a 'hands on' approach.

We were only using satellite images of what we think is Noah's Ark.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/23/16


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How would it help your children if you did all their homework?
---Steveng on 10/23/16


Well Nicole we agree on free will and you make some good points.

I want to visit the Ark. But I think the money would have been better spent to build a Clinic. But it is not my money.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/22/16


I wholeheartedly agree with Rita and James.

For we know that the ark took a long period to build, and while Noah was preparing it, he was preaching to the world, which shows us the longsuffering of God, spoken of in I Peter 3:20.
---Jamea7799 on 10/22/16


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: Noah could have stopped caring for the animals at any time he wanted, but he was obedient.

My point was that Noah would have had to participate, regardless of how many steps he had to do, and how many steps God did.
---StrongAxe on 8/20/16


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//Yet God COULD have built the ark, and instructed Noah to go in//

Yes, and instructed Noah to maintain it as He instructed Adam to maintain the Garden of Eden. Gen 2:15

//which he could do, or not. The only difference would have been the number of steps Noah had to do on his own.---StrongAxe on 8/19/16

Noah could have stopped caring for the animals at any time he wanted, but he was obedient.

Many steps up to the boat and inside the boat until leaving the boat.

Noah could have stayed in the boat as a house when it finally docked on land. But he left as instructed. Gen 8:15-19
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/19/16


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: I believe God wanted Noah to build the ark instead of Himself building is because God ALWAYS wants our participation in our own Salvation.

Interesting.

If God miraculously made the Ark Himself, would He also FORCED Noah go enter the Ark? No.

Yet God COULD have built the ark, and instructed Noah to go in - which he could do, or not. The only difference would have been the number of steps Noah had to do on his own.
---StrongAxe on 8/19/16


I believe God wanted Noah to build the ark instead of Himself building is because God ALWAYS wants our participation in our own Salvation.

Just as when God gave the Jews a NUMBER of instructions to leave Egypt before He divided the Red Sea to save them.

If one of the instructions (Exodus 12) wasn't followed, not everyone was Saved.

God respects our FREE WILL.

If God miraculously made the Ark Himself, would He also FORCED Noah go enter the Ark? No.

If Noah didn't intend to enter the Ark, he wouldn't build the Ark either.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/15/16


By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house, by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
Hebrew 11:7

From the above verse I would really have to agree with Rita.
The same faith that Noah showed would have saved others if they had believed Noah message, as he is called "a preacher of righteousness."
II Peter 2:5
---James on 8/15/16


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NurseRobert and Leon, thankyou for your polite and encouraging comments.
---Rita_H on 8/15/16


You mean that God didn't already know Noah's faith and obedience, Rita?
---Cluny on 8/14/16


Yes indeed Rita. The entire Bible (Gen.-Rev.) is first about God & then mankind (us) choosing to obey or disobey Him. In the case of Noah, he choose to faithfully obey God which resulted in he & his whole family being blessed. But, as we know many Bible people chose to disobey God & subsequently reaped the consequences of their disobedience. So it is the very same for us external "Bible people".
---Leon on 8/14/16


Good answer, Rita..
---NurseRobert on 8/14/16


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It is more than likely that God was testing Noah's faith and obedience.
---Rita_H on 8/14/16


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