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Why do people get so angry when another person defends his or her own faith system?

Why do others believe they know more about another person's faith than the person practicing that said faith?

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//That is why I said I don't believe she is a nurse.//

Of course not. Only Black folks that KNOW their place might be a Nurse. But not me. I left the Plantation.

I forgot, Misses, I should be a housekeeper.

//Not that she would PURPOSELY KILL THEM, but because she can't take instruction and carefully listen to instruction and follow directions EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED.---kathr4453 on 11/24/16

Nope, I cleans beds, floors, tables, chairs and wash the linen.

Please don't hit me Misses. I won't lie again, I promise!

I always dreamt to be a nurse. Wishful thinking. I in Alabama.

Blacks can't be Nurses cause we don't speak White. I go now.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/24/16


She refuses too understand and make progress because i'ts hard work.
---Rob on 11/24/16

This is Nicole. If I began telling the story of the 3 Pigs, Nicole would insist Goldy Locks wasn't old enough or strong enough to huff and puff. Then I would correct Nicole by saying Goldy Locks wasn't in the story of the 3 Pigs, and her answer would be, YOU SHOULD BE SUED BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE GOLDY LOCKS. Then I would say, I've never said one word against Goldy Locks except she is not in the Story of the 3 Pigs. Then she would come back and say I have hate in my heart because I won't let Goldy Locks in the Pigs house to get out of the cold, and enjoy porridge with the three Pigs until the Wolf got home to tuck them all in .
---kathr4453 on 11/24/16


//Anyone who thinks that hasn't listened to Col. Allen West or Condoleezza Rice.---Jerry6593

You are CORRECT, but Kathr and Rob would call them Oreos. To them Black people can't be THEMSELVES.

//Kathr, you gave a good discription of an "oreo."//

'Oreo' isn't an compliment.

NOT everyone believes you have to be WHITE to speak well or behave.<

//I had a accent when I was growing up,//

Unless you spoke ANOTHER language, you DON'T have an accent. Maybe a strange DIALECT, but NOT an accent.

//She refuses too understand and make progress.---Rob

I just finished a $5000 speech therapy last year. Not to speak WHITE.

No such thing as speaking WHITE.

You both are ignorant.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/24/16


You see, I was talking about the Laws in IRELAND, and Nicole translated that into ALL OF EUROPE. No one was talking about all of Europe. Is this because Nicole is LAZY in working to understand what people are saying? That is why I said I don't believe she is a nurse. Or if she is, I would NEVER in a million years let her care for anyone I knew. Not that she would PURPOSELY KILL THEM, but because she can't take instruction and carefully listen to instruction and follow directions EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. She would then make up a million reasons why it's YOUR FAULT she accidentally killed a patient.
---kathr4453 on 11/24/16


Kathr, you gave a good discription of an "oreo." I'm of mixed ethnicity and culture, I grew up in the white suburb, and my Mother was Black. She did all she could to to see her children didn't grow up being ignorant. Some of my siblings followed my Mother's example and teaching, others didn't.

I had a accent when I was growing up, but today you would never know it. It just didn't just happen. It took time and effort to overcome.

There are things Nicole_Lacey refuses to know and understand. She refuses too understand and make progress because i'ts hard work.
---Rob on 11/24/16




Nicole: "So all BLACK people CAN'T use proper grammar??"

Anyone who thinks that hasn't listened to Col. Allen West or Condoleezza Rice.
---Jerry6593 on 11/24/16


Nurse Jackie, are you taking your patients drugs? I do not use the term , nor have I ever even heard the term BEFORE YOU POSTED IT HERE ON CN. I simply looked it up to see the definition that YOU claim you are called by democrats in Alabama. I said I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU, based on the definition. It doesn't describe you in any way shape or form. YOU SHOULD BE SUED,for making up lies, and then trying to twist those lies here on CN. Nicole, are you evil, stupid or on drugs....what is your problem?
---kathr4453 on 11/24/16


//Why do you think all countries have the exact same laws Nicole? Isn't that ignorant on your part.//

No, it is ignorant on your part to THINK the Catholic Church RUNS EUROPE.

They ONLY run one country their own called 'The Holy SEE' Some call it Vatican City even though it is a Country.

//FINALLY the STATE ruled and NOT the RCC. Praise God for justice.//

I copied and pasted the Irish Government who enacted the '1941 Child Act that was revised from 1908' on Rob's blog site.

Rob wasn't too happy. Go look at it.

//If you really saw the movie Nicole you wouldn't have an argument here. YOU just love arguing and hearing yourself talk...even if shown its nonsense.---kathr4453

Facts hurts doesn't it?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/24/16


Kathr, You seem to be clueless?

//Chris Rock would come under that definition.//

STOP USING THAT WORD! WHATS WRONG WITH YOU?

That's like saying no one called me a nigger, but that someone ELSE DESERVES to called a nigger?

NO ONE DESERVES TO BE CALLED AN OREO!

//YOu however would not.//

You are right! Thanks!

//were poor and were given an American government scholarship.//

Not poor or a scholarship. A grant under the Affirmative Action Program for dual races and a woman in Alabama

//It's not really considered a hateful term in the first place.---kathr4453

To whom? Please don't call a black person an Oreo. You will be sued.

If you don't believe me, go ahead and try it.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/23/16


Nicole, I just finished watching the movie AGAIN, just as I remembered it. Actually BECAUSE this man took the Irish Government all the way to their Supreme Court that BECAUSE OF THIS CASE alone, many children were returned to their families...NOT BEFORE. Your condescending comment was not necessary. Why do you think all countries have the exact same laws Nicole? Isn't that ignorant on your part. These children were FORCED away from their parents which the outcome of it was IT WAS ILLEGAL. FINALLY the STATE ruled and NOT the RCC. Praise God for justice.

If you really saw the movie Nicole you wouldn't have an argument here. YOU just love arguing and hearing yourself talk...even if shown its nonsense.
---kathr4453 on 11/23/16




Nicole, I just posted the definition right off the internet. I did not make up the definition. I honestly do not believe anyone has called you this, and YOU used it as an excuse to slander democrats. Chris Rock would come under that definition. YOu however would not. Seeing YOU SAID you were poor and were given an American government scholarship for your education. CHris however grew up in an affluent educated wealthy area.

You heard this word and tried to apply to yourself to show what? It's not really considered a hateful term in the first place.
---kathr4453 on 11/23/16


//OREO: Black on the outside white on the inside." Oreo's are usually found listening to rock, and doing things that aren't usually classified as "black". They speak using proper grammar and think racism sucks.//

So all BLACK people CAN'T use proper grammar??

It must be COMMON knowledge that Black people DON'T use proper grammar??

//Oreo: Most of them are proud of their heritage but choose not to act as stupid as some of their peers.//

Because ALL Black people HATE AMERICA and are STUPID.

//Oreo: They normally grew up in and environment that is predominately white.---kathr4453

Of course, because All Black environment DON'T act like White environment.

I am the Racist? UNBELIEVABLE!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/23/16


//If you remember when he said the Trinity is all male-- kathr4453

Kathr, that proves my case.

The CC DOESN'T believe that the Trinity are males?

They are Divine Beings.

Males and Females are CREATED beings.

Just because Tim Kaine believes a woman should have the option to choose an abortion DOESN'T mean the CC has a Dogma supporting Kaine's views.

Governments today don't place children in Nun run convent because of the religious influence any more.

Thus the FOSTER CARE PROGRAM.

Don't worry about those Fathers. If they LOVED their children like Evelyn's father they as well got their kids back.

A father will go to the end of the world to get his child back
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/23/16


the Irish courts were run by the RCC..
---kathr4453 on 11/23/16

You are so anti-Calvin and anti-RCC.

But, do you know you support and defend a key theory of Calvin's?

It is the Penal-Substitutionary theory of Atonement or PSA.

That Christ died for man, in man's place, taking his sins and bearing them for him. This bearing of man's sins takes the punishment for them and sets the believer free from the penal demands of the law and that the righteousness of the law and the holiness of God are satisfied by this substitution.

I no longer believe this theory to be true. I now believe in the Christus Victor theory.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/23/16


THis Nicole? Does not describe you. You heard the term and LIED saying people call you this. I don't believe you. You just want to make a racist statement against others. YOU are the racist Nicole.

OREO
Black on the outside white on the inside."

A dark skinned person who displays characteristics of a white person. Oreo's are usually found listening to rock, and doing things that aren't usually classified as "black". They speak using proper grammar and think racism sucks. Most of them are proud of their heritage but choose not to act as stupid as some of their peers. They normally grew up in and environment that is predominately white.
---kathr4453 on 11/23/16


Nicole, the Irish courts were run by the RCC. If you remember when he said the Trinity is all male. That is when he won his case. The case was based on the fact there had to be a mother in the home. If this were strictly Governmemt without religious influence, the comment about the Trinity would not have had to be made. We just see the same thing differently. No one EVER questioned the court system in Ireland. He did, and WON.

It makes you wonder if the majority of those children STOLEN and sent to Australia were children of single fathers in Ireland. Had they moved this mans children to a different home and didn't tell him where they were....as is what happened to so many, he never would have seen them again.
---kathr4453 on 11/23/16


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//It's possibly WHY you are made fun of in Alabama,.. not because your a black Hispanic.//

WOW Do you know what the racist term 'Oreo' means?

It means one is Black on the outside, but 'acting' White inside.

So, it is BECAUSE I am Black, but REFUSING to behave as Democrats want Black people to behave.

//I also think YOUR accusation is twisted too, and bears false witness against others IN Alabama you want to pin on democrats.//

Well since these people in Alabama TOLD me they were Democrats I don't have any reason NOT to believe them.

//Just another way of slandering democrats. It's unchristlike.---kathr4453

So you are on the Democrats side who called me racist names and you call me UNCHRISTLIKE?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/23/16


Here are the facts Nicole.

The Irish Children Act, 1941. This law prevented a father from caring for his own children in the absence of their mother unless she was living and gave written permission for him to do so. Doyle became involved in a case presented before the Irish Supreme Court in which it was claimed that the Children's Act contravened several sections of the Irish Constitution. In December 1955, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of Desmond Doyle, and ordered that the children be returned to him and that his court costs were to be reimbursed by the government.
---kathr4453 on 11/23/16


//the story was how the RCC took his children away because his wife died and fathers had no rights.//

NO. Please LOOK at the Movie AGAIN.

The Government took the children away and GAVE the children to the Nuns as their foster system

//HE GOT A LAWYER AND TOOK THE RCC TO COURT//

NO he got a Lawyer to FIGHT the Ireland Court System.

//He never Left his children.//

No he was OVERWHELMED and unable to care for them.
The Government FIRST tried to send Nuns to clean his house. Remember?

//It wasn't about coming back---kathr4453

The movie proved my point.
The father FILED documents to get his children back.

FACT DOCUMENTED STILL in the Government's files today, NOT the RCC's files!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/23/16


Nicole, this wasn't a case of people dropping their children off at Nuns doors. Again, your argument and nasty comments and accusations to me have only to do with your not being able to read and then making things up never in the conversation to begin with. You may call me names Nicole, but YOU BEAR FALSE WITNESS, and add and make up things that have NOTHING to do with the conversation. It's possibly WHY you are made fun of in Alabama, USING YOUR WORDS NOT MINE...and not because your a black Hispanic. I also think YOUR accusation is twisted too, and bears false witness against others IN Alabama you want to pin on democrats. Just another way of slandering democrats. It's unchristlike Nicole.
---kathr4453 on 11/23/16


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Remember the ending?
Evelyn's FATHER CAME BACK for her!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/22/16

Nicole, the story was how the RCC took his children away because his wife died and fathers had no rights. HE GOT A LAWYER AND TOOK THE RCC TO COURT AND WON NICOLE. He never Left his children. It wasn't about coming back Nicole, or not coming back, it was about changing the LAW, which he did in regards to the RCC intruding into people's lives and taking their children away.

Nicole, it's hard to discuss with you. You make horrible personal attacks to me accusing me of being mean and Jesus not knowing me, just because you can't deal with the truth, or want to see facts for what they are.
---kathr4453 on 11/22/16


//I only let you know what was reported.---kathr4453

I BELIEVE BAD things occured.

I am just letting you know that people of all faith and no faith dropped their children at the Nun's front doors.

The Parents and Government Official DIDN'T do any Oversight on the Nuns. (They do now)

The Government didn't really wanted to know because they knew if they took the children away it would mean they would have to CARE for them.

40 years old the Government was shocked when they found out almost none of the Nuns in my Community didn't have medical licenses.

They ALMOST closed the nursing home UNTIL they realized they had to care for over 400 patients.

They gave the Nuns 5 years to obtain all licenses.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/22/16


Nicole, these are questions I cannot answer. I only let you know what was reported. Yes there was shock that suck things happened, and if it weren't for this old man wanting to travel to the USA it may never have come to light. The children were told their parents died, and vice verse.
---kathr4453 on 11/22/16


You used the word 'STOLEN' not me.

How can the RCC STOP a Parent from reporting a missing child report?

How can the RCC STOP the UK Authorities from TAKING a Kidnapping report?

They were abandoned by their Parents and the UK Authorities REFUSED to put them in the GOVERNMENT Foster Care System.

//The courts in Ireland were controlled by the RCC.//

ENGLAND Invaded Ireland!

Hint: They the majority are SPEAKING English not GAELIC!

England is Protestant.

Henry the VIII and his Daughter Elizabeth KICKED out the Catholic Church!

//True Story called EVELYN,..away from single fathers.---kathr4453

REMEMBER the ending?

Evelyn's FATHER CAME BACK for her!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/22/16


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Never mind Nicole. It is obvious you are not in touch with world events. This story broke o. 60 Minutes a few years back. It broke when a man from Australia wanted to visit his daughter in Phoenix and found he had no birth certificate. Oh what a can of worms that opened up for the Government finding thousands of such cases. It was a government Social worker in the UK who dug and dug and dug until the horror of this story came out. Then others still alive came forward and told their stories of abuse.
---kathr4453 on 11/22/16


KIDNAP....take (someone) away illegally by force.
synonyms: abduct, carry off, capture, seize, snatch, ...

Nicole, I think there must be a language barrier here.
OR Maybe when the RCC is involved it's NOT illegal or considered kidnapping. If they had LAWS taking children away from fathers or poor parents, saying they will help, and WALLA, these kids disappear, as part of a migration to Australia, GOD CALLS THAT KIDNAPPING, stealing and LYING about it whether the RCC does or not.

The courts in Ireland were controlled by the RCC. Have you ever seen the True Story called EVELYN, how the court in Ireland run by the RCC took children away from single fathers.
---kathr4453 on 11/22/16


Nicole,"I never got upset when someone told me why they believed the way they believed I NEVER challenged them about their own faith." OK. Good for you.

"Are they UPSET with that person because they didn't convert, or they upset with themselves for NOT being able to convert that person?"
"It seems many keep score pads to turn in to Jesus in Heaven when they die."

The LORD knows each ones heart.

It is the LORD who is right(-eous), correct, and corrects.
openness to His correction in interpretation, desiring His way over our own, is vital.
we may be corrected, in way of thinking, beliefs, behavior. He is sufficient.
---chria9396 on 11/22/16


//last of these children were reunited with living parents in the UK--kathr4453

The moment you realize your child is MISSING, you start to looking for them.

If they were Kidnapped and a report would have been made.

Or at least a MISSING PERSON report. Which can be reproduced.

If the children were reunited, it means the Nuns were STILL active and the Authorities would have ARREST the Nuns for kidnapping.

No report or arrest were made BECAUSE their own parents DISOWNED the kids for one reason or another.

Disowned them NOT to a Protestant orphanage, but a Catholic Orphanage.

//you refuse to believe any of these documented facts, and think it is lies.//

YOU HASN'T GIVEN ME ANY DOCUMENTED FACTS.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/21/16


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Where are all those parent's KIDNAPPING reports?
And when they found them in the SO CALLED work camps: WHY DIDN'T the parents take THEIR children home?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/21/16

The last of these children were reunited with living parents in the UK, many of whom were told their children has died. The majority of the parents have passed. These children are now in their 60's or there Abouts.

Nicole, I am truly sorry you refuse to believe any of these documented facts, and think it is lies.

I've also answered your questions. You just refuse to believe the answers.
---kathr4453 on 11/21/16


Kathr, *What is his educational background he posted over and over according to you?

*Why do you call my Church 'Roman Mother'?

*Who are the multitude parents told their babies are in hell because the RCC didn't baptized them?

*Prove: "800 precious little corpse the RCC refused to Baptize -Kathr 11/16 ?

*Should the Nuns let the bodies to ROT in the streets since they didn't have plots for them?

*You claim "poor children were stolen from their parents in England and Ireland and SENT to those horrible RCC controlled work camps-- Kathr 11/19 ?

Where are all those parent's KIDNAPPING reports?
And when they found them in the SO CALLED work camps: WHY DIDN'T the parents take THEIR children home?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/21/16


//are you saying that the Pope in Rome is NOT head of the Church on earth?---kathr4453

The Pope is the VICAR of Christ.

**The word "vicar" means someone acting on behalf of another, someone deputized --Eric Stoltz

You should be ashamed.

You ALWAYS ask questions, but NEVER answer.

These are SOME of the questions I have ASKED of you:

*How do you bury your Pastors?

*Name the 'so call' Priests that refuse to baptize babies of unwed mothers?

*How do you know the dead babies were NOT baptized?

*Where were the Protestants when Nuns were OVERWHELMED with all the poor unwed mothers, teens and children?

*Where were the Protestants when these dead bodies needed to be BURIED?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/21/16


//I am not calling the Vatican in Rome, the HEAD place for the RCC any names. Perhaps you have a dirty mind.--kathr

No, but you play dirty.

Stop jumping around!

You know my COMPLAINT has been because you kept calling my Church 'ROMAN MOTHER'!

Denying that?

I told you already told you that the Roman Catholic isn't the OFFICIAL NAME! But a nick name.

Since you don't know how to be polite I will ONLY call it CATHOLIC since it is the OFFICAL name.

//I have to agree with all the Eastern Orthodox Church's objections to the Church in Rome.//

You can't even NAME all the objections.

You are just following the crazy saying 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'.

No one is fooled.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/21/16


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Nicole, I am not calling the Vatican in Rome, the HEAD place for the RCC any names. Perhaps you have a dirty mind. Now I did look at the History of why the Eastern Orthodox broke away, and why they do not see the RCC as their being in submission to her. I have to agree with all the Eastern Orthodox Church's objections to the Church in Rome.

So are you saying that the Pope in Rome is NOT head of the Church on earth? That's great to hear.
---kathr4453 on 11/20/16


//The truth is, there is NO "Mother Church" anywhere.//

ONLY you have been calling my Church Mother Roman.

So if you believe that What's with the name calling?

//The CHURCH is not in the world.//

So where are we? On Mars?

Kathr, the Church LIVES and is in the World Now.

Matthew 5:13a-14 You are the salt of the EARTH,

V14 You are the light of the WORLD.

The RCC obeys Jesus in being the SALT and LIGHT of the World.

//Vatican is just another place a prosperity preacher lives in luxury,---kathr4453

Did you see St. Pope John Paul II's funeral in 2005?

He was buried in a PLAIN PINE BOX.

I wonder HOW you all bury your Pastors?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/20/16


//doesn't the R in RC mean ROMAN?---kathr4453

You speak out of ignorance.

You called my Church 'Roman Mother'. You are calling names

Roman is a NICK name used by everyone.

If you truly wish to know read this article:

**...So the proper name for the universal Church is not the Roman Catholic Church. Far from it. That term caught on mostly in English-speaking countries, it was promoted mostly by Anglicans, supporters of the "branch theory" of the Church, namely, that the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church of the creed was supposed to consist of three major branches, the Anglican, the Orthodox and the so-called Roman Catholic..--
HOW DID THE CATHOLIC CHURCH GET HER NAME? by Kenneth D. Whitehead
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/19/16


This is one of the few times Nicole has been correct.

Kathr is wrong in calling the catholic church the mother church of Rome.

It should be called the mother church of paganism and idolatry!
---Rob on 11/19/16

So if Nicole is correct she would be agreeing with Rob's definition...correct??? The truth is, there is NO "Mother Church" anywhere. The Body of Christ is the Church, seated with Christ in Heavenly Places IN CHRIST JESUS. The CHURCH is not in the world or even of the world. So there is no reason to place Peter in Rome in the first place. And the Vatican is just another place a prosperity preacher lives in luxury, trying to justify it as....what......NOT some headquarters for the RCC?
---kathr4453 on 11/19/16


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Nicole, doesn't the R in RC mean ROMAN? You tell me what is so important about the ROMAN. It's you who place the emphasis on the church being ROMAN and that is the Mother Church, head church, corporate headquarters or whatever you call it. So important to you that you all insisted Peter started the Church in ROME. Or moved the Church to Rome, or whatever. Was it moved there, and if so WHY? Why Rome? Jesus wasn't crucified in Rome. Jesus never even went to ROME. But YOU all put the emphasis on the R that only means ROMAN. why not just have a Catholic Church.....why is it ROMAN Catholic? And the Orthodox is not ROMAN Catholic. And if I'm not mistaken broke away from the ROMAN.
---kathr4453 on 11/19/16


//There were epistles written to the various churches, most probably people gathering in homes//

By Men who called Peter/Cephas
in those letters and Acts echoing Jesus Words in Matthew.

//Now let me ask you...were they LESS SAVED then than today, because the NT hadn't been binned together yet?---kathr4453 on 11/19/16

No, because you DON'T need the Bible to be SAVED!

They were Saved because they were BAPTIZED.

Don't you realize that more people CAN'T read today and at all time than those in who CAN read?

Can't you understand you are part of the Privilege Ones who can read a BIBLE?

Not to speak of having the money to BUY a Bible.

Baptism is FREE and a Gift from God for everyone NOT a few.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/19/16


This is one of the few times Nicole has been correct.

Kathr is wrong in calling the catholic church the mother church of Rome.

It should be called the mother church of paganism and idolatry!
---Rob on 11/19/16


//Roman Mother Church in Rome.//

Why do you keep calling my Church 'Roman Mother'?

You can be so NASTY in your so call clever way of speaking.

How would you like it if I changed the spelling of your name to Cathr?

Can you figure out want I am inferring by changing the first letter from 'K' to 'C'?

You are NOT stupid and NEITHER am I!

//I believe scripture states that very clearly. I obey it, and YOU DON'T.---kathr4453

As I see it if you OBEYED it you would be RC.

You OBEY what you believe is True in the Scriptures.

Can't I as well?

I have given you requested Scriptures to support RC's doctrines. Obviously, we disagree.
Does your interpretation of Scripture supersedes mine?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/19/16


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Nicole, when the apostles preached Jesus Christ and Him Crucified and risen, and pointed to the OT scriptures already in place, people were saved right there and then without any established churches or denominations, and without any Roman Mother Church in Rome. There was no New Testament yet. There were epistles written to the various churches, most probably people gathering in homes. Now let me ask you...were they LESS SAVED then than today, because the NT hadn't been binned together yet? We do see in Galatia that the LEGALISTS wanted to bring back OT traditions, of which Paul was so opposed to he said it was an accurse upon the TRUE GOSPEL. I believe that Nicole. I believe scripture states that very clearly. I obey it, and YOU DON'T.
---kathr4453 on 11/19/16


//because you have the belief that you can have faith in people or traditions not in scripture, and that makes it difficult for those who want to stick to scripture.--kathr445

You BELIEVE and TRUST other PEOPLE and tradition as well.

Tradition is tradition, Kathr.

You follow tradition EVERYDAY at Church and at home.

Why is it that your tradition is okay, but not mine?

Do you believe in the Tradition that your 66 book Bible is the true Bible?

Of course, if not you would hold my tradition belief in the 73 book Bible as true Bible.

The Bible DOESN'T say how many books it contained in itself.

You believe in other people who TOLD you that the Bible ONLY has 66 books.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/18/16


Nicole, I do not live in the UK. Not sure where you got that, but I'm not surprised you would say that. Why am I not surprised......well, either you are confusing me with someone else, or you just decided on your own with no evidence whatsoever that I'm from the UK.

I live right here in the USA Nicole. And the story of the babies mass grave in the UK, Ireland was not only reported here in the USA, but all over the world. If you thought I was from the UK because I brought that story to you that happened in the UK, ........well, that is what faulty cognitive thinking is about. And that is the kind of thinking WHERE false accusations come from from your faulty cognitive thinking.
---kathr4453 on 11/18/16


Thank you Nicole, and I too apologize to you, because I know you have become very defensive with my posts. I did not call you an idiot, Rob did, if you care to go back and look.

It is hard to debate with you Nicole, because you have the belief that you can have faith in people or traditions not in scripture, and that makes it difficult for those who want to stick to scripture. It's really impossible to compare apples to oranges.
---kathr4453 on 11/17/16


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//You will see we discussed nearly every subject you are discussing with Nicole.---Mark_Eaton

She knows. Once or Twice she vowed NEVER to discuss anything with me again.

She just doesn't like anyone to THINK differently than her.

I guess since she lives in the UK she doesn't understand the CONCEPT of 'Free Speech'.

In her Country the Government can censure anyone if they don't like it.

I guess if someone complains they can shut the other person up in her Country.

Thus she is trying to shut me up one way or another.

I am praying for you Kathr, I really am.

There is something going on with you that causing all this anger.

You are projecting your feelings on to me.

It's okay.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/17/16


Thanks John,

//Why does anyone here debate with Nicole, since many here don't agree with her?//

Because when you DEBATE someone you USUALLY DON'T agree with that person.

We are not here to Hi-Five each other.
Go to Church for that.

//Yet you single me out. ROB called her an IDIOT, but where is your condemnation of him?//

You called me an idiot, silly and voiced about my cognitive skills along with Rob

Now you are whining?

//Nicole's condescending and rude remarks to others.......are you purposefully BLIND to that?//

I Apologizes to ANYONE including you Kathr, I may have offended.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/17/16


Why does anyone here debate with Nicole, since many here don't agree with her?
---kathr4453 on 11/16/16

We have.

Please review the blogs Perceived Wrongs Of Protestants and
Perceived Wrongs Of Catholic Two.

You will see we discussed nearly every subject you are discussing with Nicole.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/16/16


John, I see you jumped in here NOW ( interesting timing here) because I don't agree with your Calvin Doctrine...so you feel you need to come in and try to discredit me any way you can. Why does anyone here debate with Nicole, since many here don't agree with her? Yet you single me out. ROB called her an IDIOT, but where is your condemnation of him? Nicole and I discuss DOCTRINE. And what about Nicole's condescending and rude remarks to others.......are you purposefully BLIND to that?

Again we all can see YOU are a sore Calvinist who does not like being challenged. No Calvinist does, and all of you resort to these tactics of smearing the opponent any way you can. That is how YOU ALL eventually got kicked OFF CN. Keep it up John.
---kathr4453 on 11/16/16


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This isn't the only blog you know?

---john9346 on 11/15/16

John, the "moderators" block postings all the time. In the 10 years I've been coming to this site, I've had many postings blocked. I've also seen some postings that surprised me that they made it through and got posted.

Simply, it's their site, they can do what they want. I've seen some good people leave over the years.

So WHY are you RIGHT and everyone else is WRONG?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/8/16

A very very good question, Nicole... Its something that each and every one of us should asked ourself.
---NurseRobert on 11/16/16


Kathr,

Why do you continue to follow Nicole from posting to posting making juvenile remarks, snide comments, and personally attacking her.

This is not the work of the Lord Jesus Christ.

If someone doesn't believe the gospel, we are suppose to love them, talk to them to share the Biblical Gospel with them, pray for them, and leave it to God to deal with them.

If I wasn't a "Christian." the way you behave on this blog I wouldn't want anything to do with the God you claim to represent.

You are a very very condemning, condescending, judgmental, and critical woman and this is not the fruit of a "Genuine Christian."
---john9346 on 11/16/16


In reading Jerry's comment here, I wondered if this same respect also applied to those of a different political belief. A lot of demeaning went on here to those who liked HC and DT.

I also wondered about the time Paul went back into Galatia and found the Galatians had been persuaded against Grace and were convinced I'm sure by misplaced scripture to go back under the Law. He uses words like Accursed. Jerry, his attitude wasn't as generous as your "OH live and let live" mentality. Because Paul was not generous at all and stood his ground for the GOSPEL , he ended up being beheaded FOR THE FAITH, not for defending his personal faith.
---kathr4453 on 11/15/16


//I accept the truth of the Bible, but reject any man-made concepts that run counter to it.--Jerry6593

And I RESPECT your belief system and not being afraid to defend them.

It is mostly women on CN who get upset and angry.

Usually, the men on CN debate, give and take and MOVE ON to debate other topics.

I believe some on CN are truly surprised when they see a Catholic defending their beliefs with Scriptures.

(That's our fault for not teaching our children the Bible as Protestants)

I grew up mostly in the Bible belt so I usually know the debate topics than most Catholics.

One thing I LOVE about CN: It has sharpen my Scripture Passage location.

We don't memorize the Bible as we should.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/15/16


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Nicole said, "StrongAxe and Samuel.
The Moderator refuses to release my blogs."

I am convinced sometimes the moderators here do show favoritism.

Just a couple weeks ago when I submitted some postings questioning Hilary Clinton they blocked them and wouldn't apologized.

They only released them when I called them on it.

If they are going to act like dictators then just close the entire blog down and we will all go some where else...

This isn't the only blog you know?

---john9346 on 11/15/16


Kind words Jerry. Let us keep them up.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/15/16


Nicole: You and I have had many disagreements on CN, but I have never demeaned your having defended your faith. In fact, I applaud you for it because the Bible commands:

1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

I also appreciate your usage of Scripture to back up your beliefs, although we may disagree on their interpretation. The Bible is the only common frame of reference we have in our discussions. I accept the truth of the Bible, but reject any man-made concepts that run counter to it.



---Jerry6593 on 11/15/16


//why people are more identified with defending their beliefs and own groups,...living in identity with Jesus and how He has us loving with..---Bill

Living OUT our OWN faith does identity with Jesus and how He has us loving.

My question hits at your answer.

Why would someone get upset because of the way I show my identity of Jesus in my Faith?

Ex: I show my love for Jesus in HOW I decorate my home.

Everyone is free to decorate their homes as they please.

I don't get upset because I can't find any signs of Christianity in their homes.

They might believe in simplicity in following Jesus in their homes.

Which I could respect.

Why can't some respect my way of loving Jesus in my own home?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/14/16


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The struggling about beliefs can be part of Satan's strategy to keep people's attention away from "faith working through love" (in Galatians 5:6).

So, Nicole, we could ask why people are more identified with defending their beliefs and own groups, than they are with using example to defend how Jesus wants us to love?

Because being busy with one's identity with a self-favoring group can decoy and tangle and mangle a person away from living in identity with Jesus and how He has us loving with "rest for your souls" (Matthew 11:28-30).
---Bill on 11/14/16


Nicole I don't know. Sometime mine don't get published.

It just happens. GOD loves you.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/13/16


StrongAxe and Samuel.

The Moderator refuses to release my blogs.

I guess they have too much proofs
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/12/16


Correct Strong Ax.

But English Protestants hung witches. Also

15th century, and in 1486, Heinrich Kramer, a member of the Dominican Order, published the Malleus Maleficarum (the 'Hammer against the Witches'

Latter the RCC banned the book as false. But it lead to the death of thousands.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/12/16


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Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: If I am Baptist, but believe the Mormon is the true faith, WHY would I continue to be Baptist?

You might, if the rest of your family is Baptist and you don't want to lose them.

Protestants Leaders BURNED thousands of women accused of being witches.

And the Inquisition burned many people they accused of heresy. Pot, kettle, black.
---StrongAxe on 11/12/16


Actually Protestants didn't generally burn witches. They hung them.

Catholics burned witches.

The Catholics because of their longer rule and existence did a lot more. In fact it was a Catholic Monk who wrote the book on finding witches and killing them.

15th century, and in 1486, Heinrich Kramer, a member of the Dominican Order, published the Malleus Maleficarum (the 'Hammer against the Witches'

Latter the RCC banned the book as false. But it lead to the death of thousands of women.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/11/16


Salem Witch trials were carried out by Protestants NOT Catholics.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/11/16

That may be Nicole, BUT the practice of burning witches at the stake BEGAN IN THE RCC, long before the Salem Witch Trials, and even before the reformation.

Why are you always attacking Protestants with false accusations and twisted facts. Is it because you are ANGRY at something? You sound angry all the time.
---kathr4453 on 11/11/16


//say...that the RCC is the only true church and all others are false that would be an attack.---Samuelbb7

Not if it is said with the words "I believe" in front of the words "my church is the true church and all others are false BECAUSE.....

Everyone THINKS that, or they would join the other faith they BELIEVE is the TRUE faith.

If I am Baptist, but believe the Mormon is the true faith, WHY would I continue to be Baptist?

Why get mad because a Jewish Person REFUSES to believe that Jesus is the Messiah.

It would be ARROGANT and SILLY to get mad.

Protestants Leaders BURNED thousands of women accused of being witches.

Salem Witch trials were carried out by Protestants NOT Catholics.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/11/16


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//I also think all have, at least for a time, had this tendency.//

I don't know, I never got upset when someone told me why they believed the way they believed.

As long as they didn't try to pull me into their belief system.

I asked many people with multiple faith to tell me about their faith.

I NEVER challenged them about their own faith.

//Also, some are more passive in their anger, so it may not be as obvious.---chria9396 on 11/10/16

That is my question?

Are they UPSET with that person because they didn't convert, or they upset with themselves for NOT being able to convert that person?

It seems many keep score pads to turn in to Jesus in Heaven when they die.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/10/16


True some Protestants attack. Some just state why they believe what the do and give the reasons. That is not an attack.

Also when you say another person's church is false that is an attack. Or that the RCC is the only true church and all others are false that would be an attack.

The worst kind of attack though is like happened in history. When those who were protestants were accused of Heresy and murdered.

True some Protestants did the same thing. Those on both sides who murdered others were wrong.

As to know more about a church than a member. That can happen if the member does not actually study their church history and know it.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 11/10/16


//For example, you always INSIST that the Catholic bible with more books in it is correct, while the Protestant one with fewer is not.---StrongAxe

Noooo, I ALWAYS DEFEND my belief in the 73 books Bible.

A difference!

When Protestants REFUSE to accept my belief stating the 7 books are FALSE is WHEN I explain how the 7 books DISAPPEARED.

My Baptist grandmother only had the 66 book Bible.

She NEVER told me that my Bible was wrong, and I never DARED to tell her that her Bible was missing books.

I didn't know that Protestants had a different number book Bible UNTIL a Protestant Kid told me that my Bible was wrong. (when I was 12 years old)

Protestants attack and Catholics defend!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/10/16


The reason some get angry is because there is nothing in scripture we are to defend OUR FAITH, whether Christian or not. Because of that, of coarse one takes it personal.

The Bible says we are called to defend the GOSPEL. Since there is only ONE GOSPEL, it has nothing to do with personal beliefs not found in scripture.




Philippians 1:7 Even as it is meet for me to think this of you all, because I have you in my heart, inasmuch as both in my bonds, and in the defence and confirmation of the gospel, ye all are partakers of my grace.

Philippians 1:17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
---kathr4453 on 11/10/16


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Nicole,

Whether in regards to faith, or any other beliefs, I think people get angry and believe they know more (pride) simply because of being human. It is a common tendency, and a person does not truly rise above such tendencies without the help of the LORD. I also think all have, at least for a time, had this tendency, for all have sinned, whether or not it is apparent to that individual. Also, some are more passive in their anger, so it may not be as obvious.
---chria9396 on 11/10/16


Nicole_Lacey:

You asked: Why do people get so angry when another person defends his or her own faith system?

Because they are insecure in their faith - they feel threatened by different beliefs.

Why do others believe they know more about another person's faith than the person practicing that said faith?

Because they "know" they are rights, so others "must be" wrong.

So WHY are you RIGHT and everyone else is WRONG?

I could ask you the same question. For example, you always INSIST that the Catholic bible with more books in it is correct, while the Protestant one with fewer is not - without allowing Protestants the courtesy of respecting their belief on the matter.
---StrongAxe on 11/9/16


cluny: "That was what the Scribes, Pharisees, and demons tried with Jesus, as I recall."

You recall incorrectly. Those guys were promoting their own man-made theories rather than "the Law and the Prophets". Sound familiar?


---Jerry6593 on 11/9/16


//But I think what makes people vexed, Nicole, is when you don't roll over and admit they are right when they fire their first shot.--Cluny on 11/8/16

YES, I enjoy it so much.

Many on CN having see a practicing Catholic or have a true relationship with them.

I love talking and learning other people's faith belief.

I am not trying to convert and they know it.
They feel more relax and share more of the beliefs to me.

Now I have some friend who assume I will go down with their semiautomatic riffle.

To my delight I pick up each bullet and hand it back to them with a smile.

For some reason, peopmle get more upset when I make fun of myself.
Or when I keep getting up as you said Cluny.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/8/16


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//The only defense for your faith should be found in the Bible. If it is not there then there is no defense.---KarenD on 11/8/16\\

That was what the Scribes, Pharisees, and demons tried with Jesus, as I recall.

But I think what makes people vexed, Nicole, is when you don't roll over and admit they are right when they fire their first shot.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/8/16


//The only defense for your faith should be found in the Bible. If it is not there then there is no defense.---KarenD on 11/8/16

Number #1 example.

Karen, I said FAITH not Christian Faith.

Muslims, Hindus and etc. are NOT in our Bible.

Millions of Jewish people DISAGREE with Jesus being the Messiah.

So because their belief that the Messiah hasn't 'come' ISN'T in the Bible means THEY DON'T HAVE A DEFENSE?

BTW, your Bible is missing 7 books.

So WHICH Bible are you speaking about?

Your Bible?

So WHY are you RIGHT and everyone else is WRONG?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/8/16


The only defense for your faith should be found in the Bible. If it is not there then there is no defense.
---KarenD on 11/8/16


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