ChristiaNet MallWorld's Largest Christian MallChristian BlogsFree Bible QuizzesFree Ecards and Free Greeting CardsLoans, Debt, Business and Insurance Articles

Commandments From Jesus

If the commandments God gave Moses were Law, what do you call the commandments Christ gives you? (John 14:21)

Join Our Christian Singles and Take The Who Is Jesus Bible Quiz
 ---David on 7/19/17
     Helpful Blog Vote (2)

Post a New Blog



StrongAxe, I answered your question 3 times, but the Moderator refuses to release my post.

It's too RIGHT for them to accept!

I am following Jesus' Commandment in the Passover every Sunday in fact everyday in Daily Mass.

I can't go into details how I am fulfilling the Passover because they will not release the post.

If you know your Bible you should be able to figure it out.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/15/17


Nicole_Lacey:

God did not abandon his convenants with the Jews to start over. That convenant still stands. However, he made a new covenant that included all poeple, not just Jews.

Are YOU part of God's covenant with the Jews, or are you not? If you not, you prove my point. If you are, do you obey all 613 laws of the Old Testament? If not, why not?

I don't need to answer about the paschal lamb, because I do not consider myself bound by those 613 laws. However, my questions to you ARE relevant if you DO consider that those laws apply to you.
---StrongAxe on 9/15/17


//Christians are not part of that covenant, because we are not Jews.//

You not logical. God didn't abandon His covenants with the Jews to START ALL OVER.

Not abolishing means as it states. Jesus was the PERFECT JEW. Only He/Apostles states which laws are adjusted and why. Only the Apostles can do so as well. Unclean foods. Mark 7:18, Acts 15. No Divorce Matthew 19, Baptism replaces circumcision 1 Col 2:11-15

//traveled to Jerusalem during Passover, and slaughtered a lamb and sprinkled its blood over your door posts? If you don't, why not,--StrongAxe

THANK YOU FOR ASKING

Jesus didn't come to be Pass. He is our Pascal Lamb. HE fulfills Exodus 12.

May I ask you the same? What Lamb are you eating? John 6
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/15/17


Nicole_Lacey:

Jesus's disciples, and most of his listerners were Jews, so they were bound by the covenant of circumcision to obey the Law of Moses. Jesus didn't abolish the law. Jews are STILL required to obey it. However, we, as Christians are not part of that covenant, because we are not Jews.

Do YOU personally believe that we are required to obey all 613 (thanks) of the Laws of Moses? If you do, when was the last time you traveled to Jerusalem during Passover, and slaughtered a lamb and sprinkled its blood over your door posts? If you don't, why not, and why are you bringing it up?
---StrongAxe on 9/12/17


//We, as Christians, are not bound by the Laws of Moses - the 619 commandments in the Old Testament, because we are under the new covenant,---StrongAxe

I think you meant 613

Please explain your statement in light of Jesus saying He ISN'T abolishing the Law and the Prophets...Matthew 5:17

We agree the Law is Moses' Law?

Next in Matthew 23:1-3 Jesus Himself states the opposite of your statement. He makes His Disciples and the crowd (everyone) to OBEY the laws.

V2 "The scribes and the Pharisees have succeeded Moses as teachers, therefore do everything and observe everything they tell you."

Please explain Jesus' Words and direct command with your claim.

Scripture support would be nice.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/11/17




We, as Christians, are not bound by the Laws of Moses....
because we are under the new covenant, which has a different set of laws, and not the old one, with those 619 laws.---StrongAxe


StrongAxe
Exactly!!!
Just because we are not under the Law of Moses, doesn't mean we are not under the Law, as most folks have been led to believe.

When Paul said, "we are not under the Law", he was referring to the Law of Moses, the Jews were once under, not the covenant of Grace, Christ gave us in his Gospel.

Paul called the covenant of Moses, "Works" and the covenant of Christ, "Grace". The true meaning behind, "Not by works, but by Grace". (John 1:17)
---David on 9/11/17


David:

Jesus said the two most important commandments were to love God and love one's neighbor. Clearly, those two apply. He also said that those were the basis of the Law and the Prophets.

We, as Christians, are not bound by the Laws of Moses - the 619 commandments in the Old Testament, because we are under the new covenant, which has a different set of laws, and not the old one, with those 619 laws.
---StrongAxe on 9/10/17


I have been saying for years that Christians are not under the Law, so they are not bound by the Ten Commandments as such, as those were given to Israel and not everyone else..---StrongAxe

StrongAxe
True,....we are not under the Law given to Israel, but false,....if you are saying those who have accepted Jesus Christ, as Lord, are not under his Law.

How can someone be under Gods covenant and not be under his Law, when the very definition of "Covenant" is "Law"??

Another way of saying it, so it's better understood, is Israel was under the Law of the Old Covenant, which included Sabbaths and Tithes, and we are under Law of the New Covenant, which include acts of Love for God and your neighbor.
---David on 9/9/17


COMMANDMENT LAW has been abolished "in His flesh" and has been destroyed. The only LAW that we are to live by (abide by) is the LAW OF LIBERTY (James 1:25 and 2:12)....it's called "LAW" because it's not OPTIONAL.

Since it is CLEARLY told to us in scripture that the old law has been abolished and that this is the one that we are to live by, if we neglect this new law, God will consider us to be LAWLESS (lawless ones are also the "son of perdition").

1 John 17:12 tells us that we must Above all avoid being a "SON OF PERDITION" (do not be a result/product of all the perditious/dangerous teachings).
---faithforfaith on 9/9/17


David:

I have been saying for years that Christians are not under the Law, so they are not bound by the Ten Commandments as such, as those were given to Israel and not everyone else - yet that doesn't free them to lie, cheat, and kill, because all of those ALREADY violate "love your neighbor". Any Christian who loves his neighbor won't do those anyway, without needing to be told.
---StrongAxe on 9/8/17




David - if you truly love your neighbor, you love the Lord.
Re: the separation of the goats and sheep in Matthew 25:31. If you do not love your neighbor then you cannot love God.
---Riolion on 9/7/17


Jesus answered that when he said, "How can you love the Lord whom you have not seen, if you do not love your neighbor whom you have seen?"---StrongAxe

StrongAxe
It was not Jesus, it was John who.... kinda said this in (1John 4:20).

To further illustrate my point, look at (Romans 13: 8-10), where Paul pairs love with a few of the Ten Commandments. For the sins he mentions, are committed against your neighbor.

How can you break any of these commandments,...if "Love works no harm to his neighbor", when breaking these commandments, harms your neighbor? So if you break these commandments, doesn't this prove, you do not love your neighbor? I mean.... if we go by what the Bible says.
---David on 9/7/17


David:

You wrote: How do you Love the Lord, According to the Lords Gospel, in (John 14:21)?

Jesus answered that when he said, "How can you love the Lord whom you have not seen, if you do not love your neighbor whom you have seen?"
---StrongAxe on 9/5/17


I sorry David, I didn't mean love for mankind, but LOVE for GOD.

If you love God you will do things for your fellow man, or avoid evil towards them.

1 John 4:20

Mother Teresa's love for God made her care about His poorest of the poor children.

I can only forgive someone that truly hurts me because of Obedience to God.

I am reminded of God's forgiveness to me.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/2/17


Jesus Commandments are simply LOVE.---Nicole_Lacey

Nicole
Yes, Seemingly simple, if we understand how love is created for God and for others. Let's use the example of the victims of hurricane Harvey, in relation to (James 2:14-16) & (John 14:21).

The flood victims are direct recipients, of folks who are doing what the Lord is commanding them do. In response to these actions, the flood victims feel genuine love for these folks who are helping them. Complete strangers one minute, and the love of a family member in the next.

Now what if these folks ignored these commands, as in the example of (James 2:16)? Would they still be loved for their inaction?
---David on 9/2/17


Jesus Commandments are simply LOVE.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/1/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Distance Learning


The 2 commands (John 3:16, John 13:34) from Jesus are simply called "commandments".

1John 3:22,23.
And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His COMMANDMENTS and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

And this is His COMMANDMENT: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us COMMANDMENT.
---Haz27 on 8/31/17


You need only to obey that one commandment to fulfil the law and that is found in Romans 13 - to love your neighbor. In short, you simply do not understand the gospel or its message.---Riolion on 8/31/17

Riolion
But the first and greatest commandment, Jesus gave us, was to "Love the Lord". (Matthew 22:37 & 38)

How do you Love the Lord, According to the Lords Gospel, in (John 14:21)?
---David on 9/1/17


Samuelbb7 - "So love obeys 6 by your count. Do you not obey three more? So you only disobey one."

There are many even today that praise the 10 commandments but like the Galatians that the Apostle Paul had to deal with, they simply do not understand that the Christian is under the New Covenant, not the Old which according to Scripture has become obsolete (Heb.8:13) You need only to obey that one commandment to fulfil the law and that is found in Romans 13 - to love your neighbor.
In short, you simply do not understand the gospel or its message.
---Riolion on 8/31/17


Dear Riolion

I am a Seventh day Adventist. Love obeys GOD.

As a sign on one Baptist church read.

GOD gave Ten Commandments not suggestions.

So love obeys 6 by your count. Do you not obey three more? So you only disobey one.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/25/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Education


you got that right samuelb - as scripture is very clear that love of others fulfills the law. Romans 13:9b-10... if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Of course there are those who still have the veil over their eyes that believe one must also observe the Jewish Sabbath.
---Riolion on 8/24/17


Those who ignore atheists and unbelievers don't follow Jesus who said to love everyone.

Some are atheists because of false Christians in churches. We are to love and speak in love.

AGape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/24/17


A fool says in his heart that there is no God. Psalm 53:1
---Tracy on 8/16/17


My Methodist Grandmother spoke to me on loving Jesus. But as I grew older. I stopped believing in GOD.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/4/17


Samuel
It's amazing how many folks, to whom I have given my testimony, have had the same experience.

"Seek and you will find" seems to be the key. I looked for God off and on throughout my life, but it wasn't until I hit rock bottom that I took his hand and let him lead me. Had no clue to where I was being led, but a short 6 months later I found what I had been searching for.
---David on 8/16/17


Send a Free Funny Birthday Ecard


Moses knew ETERNAL God, but the forefathers of the Jews decided to ignore what Moses said.

Heb 11:26 He considered abuse suffered for the Christ greater wealth than the treasures of Egypt, for he looked to the reward.

Act 7:39 Our fathers refused to obey him, but thrust him aside, and in their hearts they turned to Egypt,

It was told TO THE JEWS (just like Revelations) that our bodies are temples and they should contain the spirit, but today, the divine Spirit is supposed to be in the INNER MAN, not the physical body.

1Co 6:19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, which you have from God? You are not your own, (but today we are our own masters).

Titus 1:8 master of himself
---faithforfaith on 8/9/17


True Michael right division is important. But that is more about context.

Some make barriers where there are none.

For centuries most Christian churches taught the Ten Commandments were for Christians.

Today because of dispensationalism many oppose what the church has taught since it's foundations.

There used to be a sign on a Baptist church. GOD gave Ten Commandments not suggestions.

Today many say there are no ten commandments any more.

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/7/17


Right division explains a lot
1 Corinthians 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
---michael_e on 8/4/17


David I am glad that you have found Jesus. Praise the Lord.

My Methodist Grandmother spoke to me on loving Jesus. But as I grew older. I stopped believing in GOD.

Praise the Lord he called me out of the world to follow Him.

The Commandments Jesus gave are commandments. Like love those who hate you. Commandments and law are sometime interchangeable.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/4/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Home Equity Loans


Samuel
I was fortunate to live in ignorance, of the false doctrine of which I was raised. Though I was made to go to church every week, for 18 years, I learned very little about how to have a relationship with God. Though I had been baptized, it wasn't until my early 20's, that I first confessed my sins before almighty God.

Wow, what an experience!! I had no Idea what had just happened, only that I was now acutely aware of all the evil in the world, and the evil in me. Too bad I didn't have a teacher to explain it to me, for my ignorance caused me to fall back into sin, in which I languished until my 41st birthday.

Thank God for the gift of the Holy Spirit, who has directed my path and taught me the things of God, ever since.
---David on 8/4/17


Interesting points David. Thank you. They show how the understanding of those who believe they cannot sin or be lost. Are not understanding what they teach means.

I talked with one person. Who said that even if he stole from someone it would not be a sin. Because he loved them.

You are still sinning when you steal. It is also not truly loving when you steal.

Reminds me of men who beat up their wives yet say they love them.

It doesn't work. Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/3/17


...we in Christ are no longer under the law because the requirement of the law has been satisfied by Jesus for us.--Mark Eaton

Mark
Oh...you believe Sin is still sin, but there is no penalty for sin for those in Christ Jesus. We thought you were saying you couldn't sin, because you were not under the Law.

Some folks believe they can not sin. This causes them to have guilt before man, but no guilt before God. For example, if someone tells a lie and gets caught lying, they feel guilt. But if they don't get caught in the lie, and they get away with it, there is no guilt.

This is why we need to confess sin, because confessions keeps us in light of God. When we are in the light, we will feel guilt before God.
---David on 8/3/17


Jesus says if you habitually commit sin, you are its slave.---Mark_Eaton

Mark
Do you actually believe God doesn't consider you a sinner, when you kill someone, just as long as you don't make it a habit?

If so, you may want to change bible translations.
---David on 8/2/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Interest Rates


Those in Christ Jesus are walking in Christ. Not living in sin.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/1/17

I agree Samuel. We cannot be in Christ, in communion with Jesus, if we are living in sin. I am not declaring this. I do not know how you got here.

But what I am saying is that we in Christ are no longer under the law because the requirement of the law has been satisfied by Jesus for us.

And that's why there is no condemnation for those in Christ, because the law has no power over us to condemn us.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/2/17


In (John 8:34) Jesus tells us everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Do you believe him?
---David on 8/1/17

I believe Jesus, I do not believe your translation.

First. Context. The context is about being a slave or free. Not about sin.

Second. The verse says "...everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin..." yet the word translated "commits" in English, is in Greek, a Present Tense Verb Participle which indicates continuous action, habitual action, or a "lifestyle" action.

For example, if you play tennis once in your life, you are not a tennis player. But if you play every week, why then you are a tennis player.

Jesus says if you habitually commit sin, you are its slave.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/1/17


Read it carefully Mark. Those in Christ Jesus are walking in Christ. Not living in sin. Read Gelation's 4 and 5. See what those not under the law are doing. They are living for GOD.

Read Romans 13. Love does the right thing. Not the hateful selfish acts of sin.

The Bible gives lists of those who will end up in hell. They are all transgressors of the law.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/1/17


I refuse to play your games about sin and the Law.--Mark

Mark
Best you play the "Game" with me now, than with God on the day of judgment.

Mark, I'm not denying what Paul said in (Romans 8:1-4) , but you need to understand who he is talking about.
(1 John 3:9-10) KJV says the Sons of God can not sin. Why is it, those who are born of God can not break the Law? It's as Paul said, Jesus has set them free of sin.

You say you believe in Jesus, let's test you to see if you believe what he says. In (John 8:34) Jesus tells us everyone who sins is a slave to sin.
Do you believe him?
---David on 8/1/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Internet Marketing


If you are not under the Law, can you give me an example of sin that makes you a sinner?
---David on 8/1/17

I refuse to play your games about sin and the Law.

Read on in Romans until you get to this:

Romans 8:1-4 "Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit"
---Mark_Eaton on 8/1/17


I am a sinner saved by grace. I am no longer under the law, because I am now in Christ.--Mark

Mark
In (Romans 4:15) Paul said, "Where there is no Law, there is no transgression". With this, how can you be a sinner without the Law?

When someone under the Law steals, lies, kills, or commits adultery, they are a Liar, a thief, a murderer, or an adulterer. Without the Law, you can not be a liar, a thief, a murder, or an adulterer.

If you are not under the Law, can you give me an example of sin, the sin that makes you a sinner?
---David on 8/1/17


The problem is what does under the law mean?

If it means that the law is gone. That would mean that those who are not under the law would no longer have the law define sin. It would be done away with.

But the Romans 3:31 says the law is established by faith. Romans 3, 6 and 13 all declare breaking the law is sin. See all 1,2 and 3 John.

So under the law cannot mean there is no law. Galatians 4,5 shows that those who are in Grace don't live in sin. They are not condemned or saved by the law. They are saved by Grace but follow the law because they are saved.

Those under the law are living in sin. Those living in Grace and love are not sinning.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/31/17


You don't believe you are a sinner, because you don't believe you are under the Law.
---David on 7/29/17

Where do you get this from? Is this your line when anyone challenges your belief that we don't believe we can sin?

I am a sinner saved by grace. I am no longer under the law, because I am now in Christ.

Read John 14:20 instead of quoting John 14:21.

I am in Jesus, and Jesus is in the Father. Is Jesus under the Law? Jesus is in the Father, is the Father under the Law?

You do not know the position of the believer. Read John 15:1-6.

We are abiding in Jesus, partaking of His accomplishments, including His fulfillment of the Law.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/31/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Life Insurance


Mark. I loved my mother. But occasionally I did things wrong. I always told her I was sorry. Did that make me feel like my mother didn't love me. Although the belt didn't help sometime. But I knew she loved me.

Confession of sin is not hard. It is hard to not confess since I love GOD. Since I am sorry for doing wrong.

How can you not confess when you have failed and made mistakes? It is as natural as loving and apologizing to those you love whom you have hurt.

AGape
---Samuelbb7 on 7/30/17


Mark
When I was a kid, my dad put up an electric fence to keep our horse in the pasture. I just couldn't believe that little wire,... was so dangerous,...that it could keep that big strong horse in our pasture. You know what made me believe? I touched the fence, and that made me believe.

You don't believe you are a sinner, because you don't believe you are under the Law. I'm asking you to touch the fence, and see for yourself.

Confess your sin...
before God, for just one week. There's a huge difference when you walk in Gods light for a week, and you won't believe me unless you find out for yourself.
---David on 7/29/17


maybe the Holy Spirit gave you the correct interpretation
---David on 7/28/17

I am trying to answer you, Jerry, and Samuel and not all my posts get thru.

I may have been replying to a response by Jerry, although you two agree on this issue it seems.

As you have said, we will continue to disagree on this subject.

I understand your viewpoint, but you do not want to know mine. I am sad for you. You cannot have any peace and feel acceptance from God if you have to constantly confess and make sure everything is confessed. Where is the love, forgiveness, and acceptance from God that we all need?

Your G.O.D. is not the God of my understanding.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/28/17


(Matthew 3:1-6) In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins, and his meat was locusts and wild honey. Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

Mark
John the Baptist told the people to "Repent", and they responded by confessing their sins and by being baptized.
---David on 7/28/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Make Money


I knew that 1 John 1:9 would be the only verse you would use. And you are reading into the verse, not out of it.--Mark

Mark
But I didn't give you my interpretation of the verse, I only posted it. Now since I didn't give you my interpretation, and it's not your interpretation, maybe the Holy Spirit gave you the correct interpretation.
---David on 7/28/17


I will admit there are very few verses which use the phrase "confession of sin"... ---David on 7/27/17

I knew that 1 John 1:9 would be the only verse you would use. And you are reading into the verse, not out of it.

The verse does not say we must confess our sins before we are forgiven. No, read it again. The verse also does not say that if we do not confess our sins they will not be forgiven.

The context of the verse is 1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth".

Again the emphasis of the passage is on fellowship, relationship.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/27/17


However, the NT uses the word "Repent" over 40 times, and confession of sin is inferred in these verses.
---David on 7/27/17

The word "repent" is a translation of the Greek word "metanoia" which means to change your mind or to change the direction of your thinking.

Metanoia does not have the concept of penitence in it. It does not infer confession. It does not infer regret, or sorrow, or contrition.

All these have been heaped on by a mistranslation of the word metanoia. Other words express these emotions, such as confession, contrition, and supplication.

The word Repent means "to pent again" or to be penitent again. Not to change your mind.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/27/17


Mark. When we come to Christ all that has happened before is gone.

But what of the future. What are we supposed to do when we sin. The Bible teaches two things. First what to do with sin. 1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Second that we are not supposed to live in sin. That those who live in sin. Are not saved.

1John 5:2,3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1John 3:15 >Read all of 2 Peter and all three of the John letters.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 7/27/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Rehab Treatments


BCV please for your proof--Mark

(1 John 1) 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Mark
Sorry I didn't get back with you yesterday, but I find it difficult on CN to post more than once at any one sitting.

I will admit there are very few verses which use the phrase "confession of sin". This is because confession of sin is a part of repentance, which makes it's use a redundance in the teaching.

However, the New Testament uses the word "Repent" over 40 times, and confession of sin is inferred in these verses.
---David on 7/27/17


Only past sins are forgiven, and those only when repented of.
---Jerry6593 on 7/26/17

BCV please for your proof.

Here are some of mine:

Heb 9:26 "Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world, but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself"

Col 2:13-14 "When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us, and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross"
---Mark_Eaton on 7/26/17


I very much appreciate your standing with me in upholding the truth of the Bible above the opinions of men.---Jerry6593 on 7/24/17

Jerry
And I appreciate you standing on the foundational Gospel of Jesus Christ, and with me. Not too many folks seem to want argue the point we have made about sin, do they? I think we may have changed a few minds, which is my goal here on CN.

No one likes to feel foolish, and If you can find a way to show folks how foolish and illogical a teaching is, sometimes you cause them to stop and rethink their position.
---David on 7/26/17


Mark E: "All sin has been forgiven by God"

I do not agree with that, Nor does Paul:

1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

1Co 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Only past sins are forgiven, and those only when repented of.


---Jerry6593 on 7/26/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Stocks


We are to be OUR OWN MASTERS (God doesn't want to be our master, AND He wants us to be "LOVERS OF GOODNESS" who don't have told/compelled by LAW/rules/regulations to do the right thing.

So, "KEEP" the principles/precepts of goodness outlined by the COMMANDMENT LAW (that law is now obsolete and replaced by us having a spirit that is compatible with The Lord's divine/eternal Spirit).

Tit 1:8 but hospitable, a lover of goodness, master of himself, upright, holy, and self-controlled,

In case you believe that we were TAUGHT the real truth of scripture....

Eze 16:49 your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.
---faithforfaith on 7/25/17


If God forgives your sin, you are under the Law. If there is no change, you are under Grace.
---David on 7/25/17

Do you ever read Romans 6?

Rom 6:14-15 " For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be!"

It is plain that we are under grace and not under law. Period. No matter what the state of your confession is, we are under grace.

And God has already forgiven your sin way back at the cross. Confession of your sin is for you, not for God. If you don't believe that, then answer this. Why are you told to confess your sins one to another?
---Mark_Eaton on 7/25/17


Mark
We can argue until Jesus comes, but by then it will be too late. Who is right and who is wrong? Let God show you the Truth.

Since you believe you are not under the Law you probably have not confessed your sin, to God, in a very long time,...if ever. If so, confess your sin before God and see if anything happens. (The "sinners Prayer" some folks use is a good template as to how to confess your sin)

If nothing happens, we are wrong. But, if immediately after the confession, you become acutely aware of the sin in your life, we are right. If God forgives your sin, you are under the Law. If there is no change, you are under Grace.
---David on 7/25/17


'THE LAW' was not provided to be useful to righteous people (righteous people have NO NEED of LAW).

Righteous people are "LOVERS of goodness" and are completely fit to be their own masters.

1Ti 1:9 that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners

Heb 10:4 For it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away sins.

Luk 2:22 purification ACCORDING TO....

Heb 1:3 When he had made purification for sins

Heb 9:13 the blood of goats and bulls sanctifies for the purification OF THE FLESH,

Jhn 7:39 were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given.
---faithforfaith on 7/24/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Diabetes


To be honest, I was completely ignorant that Protestants don't believe they can sin.
---David on 7/23/17

Sin is not the issue, relationship is.

As Jerry agrees, sin has been dealt with by Jesus death, burial, and resurrection. All sin has been forgiven by God as far as the east is from the west.

Why do you want to remember it?

Our relationship with Jesus is our primary focus. Our second focus is our relationship with all other humans.

It is that simple. Anything more complicated is religion, not relationship.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/24/17


The GOOD NEWS of the Gospel is that Jesus (the sacrificial LAMB because it is IMPOSSIBLE that the blood of bulls and goats should take away sin) is the ETERNAL covenant) provided us with the Spirit when He ascended (salvation of the flesh had already been accomplished ON THE CROSS).

Our goal SHOULD BE eternal life, NOT SALVATION OF THE FLESH (PURIFICATION OF THE FLESH was what Jesus did at the cross).
Our worship faith did not begin until Jesus was glorified.

God always had a holy/perfect spirit, but it was never GIVEN before.

The old worship faith (Judaism) was meant only to worship the creator as JEHOVAH (the House of Israels ONE HUSBAND . She was IMPURE and in need of everything that Jesus could have provided.
---faithforfaith on 7/24/17


David: "Protestants don't believe they can sin"

The truth is that there are very few actual Protestants left, specifically, those that protest the supplanting of God's Law with the commandments of men. In my research, I found that most mainline religions - Catholic, Orthodox, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc. - do indeed proclaim in their founding documents that they are bound by the Ten Commandments (albeit altered versions thereof). Only the Pentecostals and the Evangelicals claim to be above the law.

I very much appreciate your standing with me in upholding the truth of the Bible above the opinions of men.



---Jerry6593 on 7/24/17


The only law that was erased by Christ's atoning sacrifice on the cross was the Levitical sacrificial law...
---Jerry6593 on 7/22/17

Funny. I do not see the Apostles telling us in their Epistles to continue to be circumcised, to continue to keep the dietary laws, to keep the festivals and Sabbath, to keep the agricultural laws, and to not mix fabrics.

All these are not the Sacrificial law.

Rather, the Epistles tell us we are called to liberty, not the letter of the Law.

If the law is still required, what is the Good news of the Gospel?
---Mark_Eaton on 7/24/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Depression


The Bible says that Jesus came to save us from sin - not from the Law.--Jerry.

Jerry
Well put,... and in a nutshell.
To be honest, I was completely ignorant that Protestants don't believe they can sin. This has become very personal for me.

As a child I had no issues with telling lies, or stealing. My brothers and I were like a gang of thieves. I feel so much shame today for how I was back then. And it wasn't until recently that I discovered why I acted as I did. It was because I was raised as a Protestant and didn't know what sin was.
---David on 7/23/17


Jesus (the eternal covenant) and the eternal spirit (Hebrews 9:14) give us PRECEPTS of the 10 commandment law (Godly PRINCIPLES to KEEP in order that we may be approved of Him ("circumcision").

If LIFE eternal is your goal (salvation was accomplished on the cross), then you must understand more than the aged and also "walk at liberty".



Psa 119:40 Behold, I long for thy precepts, in thy righteousness give me life!

Psa 119:45 and I shall walk at liberty, for I have sought thy precepts.

Psalm 119:100 understand more than the aged, for I keep thy precepts.


Rom 2:26 if a man who is uncircumcised keeps the precepts of the law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision?
---faithforfaith on 7/22/17


//Our sin has been dealt with by the death of Jesus. So has the Law.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/21/17//

Your first statement is true, but the second is false. The Bible says that Jesus came to save us from sin - not from the Law. He told the adulteress "Neither do I condemn thee, GO AND SIN NO MORE". The only law that was erased by Christ's atoning sacrifice on the cross was the Levitical sacrificial law of which Christ was "the Lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world".


---Jerry6593 on 7/22/17


Mark
As Peter said, Paul is hard to understand, and you see me as ignorant of Paul teachings. So help me by answering these two easy questions, to give understanding to those you see as ignorant of Paul.

If you steal something, is it sin?
If you murder someone, is it a sin?
---David on 7/22/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Bible Study


Isn't it true, sin must die so that we can live for Christ?
What did Paul use to make this happen in (Romans 7: 11)?
---David on 7/21/17

Why do you continually change the subject?

The subject was your previous post that contained "we gain freedom from sin when we obey the Law". Now you are onto sin and living for Christ.

I want to stay on your previous statement. You said in it that "I revealed the fact those who sin are under the Law".

Yet, Romans 7 says we who have died with Christ have been released from the Law, have been freed from the Law, have been made to die to the Law.

Our sin has been dealt with by the death of Jesus. So has the Law.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/21/17


Because of the rest of Romans.

Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin,
Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Sin is breaking the law. We are to not live in sin.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/21/17


How can you read Romans 7 and still think you are still joined to the Law?--Mark Eaton

First I'd like to say you were not the "Mark" I was referring to in my other post, the one who likes to change his name. He went by the name of "MarkV".

Mark
Isn't it true, sin must die so that we can live for Christ?
What did Paul use to make this happen in (Romans 7: 11)?
"For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me."

Keeping the Law does not make us a better person. God uses the Law to answer your prayer. What does Jesus pray for in (Luke 11:4)? It's not only a prayer asking for the forgiveness of sin, it's also to be delivered from evil.
---David on 7/21/17


If the commands to Moses are Law, what Jesus means is love.
---Bill on 7/20/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Bible Verses


Because one gains freedom from sin, by obeying the Law (Romans 7:9)
---David on 7/20/17

How can you read Romans 7, quote it, and still think you are still joined to the Law? We are told:

Rom 7:4 "Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead..."

The whole cosmos died and rose again with Jesus. We are no longer mastered by sin and death. Remember your memory verse:

Rom 6:7 "For he who has died has been freed from sin"

Therefore, we are to consider ourselves dead to sin and alive to Christ.

Not alive to the Law, alive to Christ.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/20/17


Some Great points Jerry.

But remember when Jesus asked the Jewish lawyer what it the Greatest commandment.

Luke 10:25-28 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind, and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

They knew. But like many today they didn't want to follow.

The Orthodox church in general teaches the Ten Commandments are moral laws in effect.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/20/17


Cluny
A little while ago, I revealed the fact those who sin are under the Law. For without Law, it would be impossible for anyone to sin.

It's important, for those who believe they are not under the Law to understand this. Why is it so important? Because one gains freedom from sin, by obeying the Law (Romans 7:9). This is why the Law of Christ is also Called, "The Law of Liberty".

Orthodox Christians confess their sins, but also believe they are not under Law. If your not under Law, how do you commit sin in need of confession?
I ask you this very difficult question merely to bring you a different perspective about sin, and about the Law of Christ.
---David on 7/20/17


Cluny is right! Jesus IS God! Jesus is Jehovah God who wrote the Ten Commandments in stone with His own finger and gave them to Moses - twice.

1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

This then must be the Law Christ mentioned when He said:

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

The two "new" love laws that Christ gave were actually quotes from the Old Testament and summarize the Ten Commandments. They were "new" only to the hearers.


Glory to Jesus Christ, the author of the Ten Commandments!



---Jerry6593 on 7/20/17


Read These Insightful Articles About Arthritis


In any case, the commandments that Jesus gave us was simply to love the lord you god and your neighbor as yourself. In that you fulfill all the requirements of the law.

Romans 13:9-10 The commandments, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet, and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
---Riolion on 7/20/17


"what do you call the commandments Christ gives you?"
The Lord's principles for life eternal.
---josef on 7/19/17


Jesus IS God--God incarnate.

Haven't you heard?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/19/17


Copyright© 2017 ChristiaNet®. All Rights Reserved.