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StrongAxe, are you suggesting nursing homes/hospitals in Puerto Rico WERE TOO POOR for generators to support AC as per the law?

Or the Inspectors in PR didn't do they jobs to ENSURE they followed Federal regulations?

Please answer?


//Administrator called governor asking for emergency help as patients were dying,//


Yet they REFUSE to call 911 for several ambulances to take them ACROSS THE STREET to a Hospital with an AC supported generator!

They called the Governor instead because they wanted 1st electric restoration in the community SO they didn't have to transport the patients to the hospital resulting in LOST REVENUE!

---Nicole_Lacey on 10/16/17


You wrote: NO THEY ARE NOT! It is AGAINST the LAW not to have AC.

And, as we all know, it is physically impossible to break a law, right?

The nursing home HAD AC. However, the generators they had were enough to power all their other equipment, but not AC. (In my house, in summer, AC takes twice the power of everything else in the house combined.) Administrator called governor asking for emergency help as patients were dying, but he ignored the voice mails for several days, and later deleted them from his phone, pretending they were never sent.
---StrongAxe on 10/15/17

Kathr: You also poo pooed my post about a bacterial infection, giving your expertise advise....NOT, where we now see 4+ deaths from that one.//

Yes I did because only one of those infections you cited could cause death: Leptospirosis

You don't have to be an expert to know that NO ONE has heard of anyone dying from an eye infection, lice or scabies!

I bet no one even heard of Leptosperosis before and that infection takes months to kill someone

You made the claim of Leptosperosis death cases on Oct 7th 16 DAYS after H. Maria.

I am sure the ONLY one you claimed killed people in PR still HASN'T killed any one in PR.

//You really need to say nothing Nicole//

---Nicole_Lacey on 10/15/17

Kathr: Yes, Nicole after MARIA, I didn't say caused by Irma.....please learn to read.//

Obviously you CAN'T read. Is your name StrongAxe?

//people were still dying in Florida Nursing homes caused by air.//

NO THEY ARE NOT! It is AGAINST the LAW not to have AC.

//is PR a cooler climate SWEETY?//

Darling, ask your PR friends

//They don't need the same Air Conditioning as old folks in Florida?...//

Bless your heart, they have generators in PR.

//Where many places still can't be gotten to.//

Keep up Precious, all Hospitals and Nursing Homes have complete power.

Baby, don't get mad

//HR works for FOX NEWS.//

Who is HR? Do you mean GR?
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/15/17

Yes, Nicole after MARIA, I didn't say caused by Irma.....please learn to read. Yes, even as late as Maria which didn't hit Florida, people were still dying in Florida Nursing homes caused by air. So is PR a cooler climate SWEETY? They don't need the same Air Conditioning as old folks in Florida?.....Where many places still can't be gotten to.

You don't need to troll and correct Nicole..... It makes you look petty,....and you think it makes you seem more intelligent.....NOT!

HR works for FOX consider the source.

You also poo pooed my post about a bacterial infection, giving your expertise advise....NOT, where we now see 4+ deaths from that one.

You really need to say nothing Nicole...
---kathr4453 on 10/14/17

AXE. The likes of Russian KGB defector Yuri Bezmanov, and academic David Horowitz, are ex Comunists who were actively involved with the Communist efforts to undermine the West through infiltrating and now dominating mainstream media, humanities departments at Uni, Hollywood, politics, etc.

Their warnings are consistent with those in the book titled "The Naked Communist" written by a CIA agent in the 1940's, based on the CIA's findings of the Communists goals.

Leftists like you are proof that the Communists have succeeded attaining most of their goals in underming the West.
And as Yuri said, no matter how many facts are given to the brainwashed, it's unlikely you Lefties can ever be red pilled back to reality.
---Haz27 on 10/14/17

StrongAxe: Youtube San Juan's Mayor interview by Geraldo Rivera.

He told her he JUST finished speaking to a DOCTOR who said NO ONE HAD DIED."

Oxygen isn't delivered by power. Suicide is a CHOICE that is self inflicted. Many people suffer from heart attcks and are still ALIVE.

//People die from lack of oxygen when their breathing machines have no power.//

Again you do not understand. Ventilators regulate the breathing process not provide the oxygen.

//One Florida rest home had a power outage after Maria and people died//

Irma not Maria.

Rest home not hospital.

They died because they REFUSED to take them ACROSS THE STREET to the Hospital functioning via GENERATOR!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/14/17


Again you quote Bezmanov as some kind of prophet. Unwillingness to see truth also applies to you.

As for "insulting slander", in almost every single message, you insult me personally, using terms like "your Leftist leaders", "brainwashing you received", "claiming victimhood" etc. I give you the credit of assuming you are an adult, and capable of thinking for yourself, and speaking your own mind. Please do me the same courtesy.

And forget "always DEM". You keep forgetting of the major shift in party policies between the 50s and 60s. The 1956 Republican platform was almost entirely 2016 Democratic talking points. KKK is THOROUGHLY Trumpist Republican now.
---StrongAxe on 10/14/17

AXE. As Yuri Bezmanov (Russian Communist KGB defector) said, no matter how many facts are presented to people like you, facts will simply be rejected as they're inconsistent with the brainwashing you received from the Communist Left who dominate mainstream media (including the likes of Snopes), universities, Hollywood, politics, etc.

Axe, you always repeat the same old insulting slander against Conservatives that your Leftist leaders feed you, and then you use their trademark tool of claiming victim hood when your side of politics is exposed for its evil.

A little progress seems to have been made though. You now recognize the KKK was always of the DEMs, and that Hitler was in fact a Socialist Lefty.
---Haz27 on 10/14/17

Actually Haz27, while you've been asleep at the wheel screeching "lefty liberal communists nonsense" the REAL issue of what will bring the tribulation closer is seeing the likes of Paula White and that ilk laying hands on Trump in the Oval Office, not only once...( for a photo opt pandering to APOSTATES) more than once. ...the woman who rides the beast is The unholy marriage of politics and counterfeit Christianity. ( after one visit it was reported that NOW we will be seeing real supernatural power) YIKES.

Since the 80's when there was this wave of false charismatic activity in this country...I knew this was opening the door to something horrible. Paula White and all those in her camp ....we should be very weary of.....
---kathr4453 on 10/14/17

NURSEROB. So in other words you could not prove Snopes is a trustworthy source.
---Haz27 on 10/13/17

In typical Haz fashion, you attack the source but not the story.
---NurseRobert on 10/14/17

The actual death toll is said to be in the hundreds, and many deaths are not reported. I believe that. There are still many homes in remote places they can't get, just as there are missing folks in CA... Missing more than likely means to have perished yes, there are those just like on the mainland who have died in nursing homes who also have RESTRICTIONS, rules and governing laws, yet it happened.

There is already a place with 450 bodies....unreported in the death toll.

I'm sure there will be a cover up here.
---kathr4453 on 10/13/17


Snopes does research, and then documents it. I'm sorry if someone else's documentable true narrative disagrees with your own biased narrative, but there it is.


I had previously written a reply, but CN didn't post it. Let me try again.

"Lefty" is a pejorative people like Haz27 use to insult all people who are politically left of center. They uses flawed logic "Communism is left. Communism is evil. You are left. Therefore, you are evil". This uses the same identical reasoning process as "Apples are red. Apples are fruit. Roses are red. Therefore, roses are fruit", and is just as invalid.
---StrongAxe on 10/13/17

Loony1. Very true. In spite of the evil throughout the world God takes care of His children. Like I said in an earlier post, the political elites (especially the Left) corruption and their PC is bringing us ever closer to the great tribulation Jesus spoke of (Matt 24:21,22), where God will shorten the days for the elects sake.

NURSEROB. So in other words you could not prove Snopes is a trustworthy source.
---Haz27 on 10/13/17

That is an interesting definition of a lefty. But I'm not worried about lefties or righties. God is good. He will take care of me no matter what disasters happened. He is my Rock and my Fortress.
---Loony1 on 10/13/17

AXE. Snopes....?? Please.... that's like relying on Fake News CNN or NYT.
---Haz27 on 10/13/17

In other words, you can't prove him wrong.
---NurseRobert on 10/13/17

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AXE. Snopes....?? Please.... that's like relying on Fake News CNN or NYT.
---Haz27 on 10/13/17


There was a series of viral tweets by Nelson M. Rosario describing his father's experiences. One said, "There's a medical center down here, and everyone that was in the Intensive Care Unit died. Everyone. That's just one detail."

Snopes said this is unproven (not debunked either). Reporter David Begnaud said, "Confirmed. Oxygen related deaths following Hurricane Maria, as well as, suicide and heart attack."

People die from lack of oxygen when their breathing machines have no power.

Inspections are imperfect. Hurricanes can damage generators. One Florida rest home had a power outage after Maria and people died.
---StrongAxe on 10/12/17

StrongAxe:..recently when someone described what his relative in PR recounted - because the hospital had no power, EVERY single person in the ICU there died.//

NOT SO. Hospitals have standards and they are inspected yearly to make sure they are in compliance.

Every hospital bed (Not just ICU beds) have Generator Outlets connection that has to KICK IN within 10 seconds after power lost.

The next time you visit someone in the hospital look at them. We have to plug in any life emergency equipments into them such as ventilators.

They are color coded to help the Nurses identify the outlet. Either they are RED or have glowing green dots on the outlet.

All Puerto Rican Hospitals has to follow all Federal Regulations
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/12/17

Loony1. A Lefty is anyone of the DEM's side of politics.
But then so many REPs (similar to our LNP in Australia) embrace politically correct perspectives that they too can be described as Lefties.

Political correctness is basically cultural Marxism, which is driven by the Left through their dominance of the mainstream media, universities, Hollywood, politics, etc.

And former Communists like Russian KGB defector Yuri Bezmanov, and academic David Horowitz, have warned (based on their experience as former insiders working towards undermining Western society) that the far Left dominate the media, universities, politics, Hollywood, etc and use these institutions to brainwash the gullible with PC.
---Haz27 on 10/12/17

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What's a "lefty"?
---Loony1 on 10/12/17

AXE. We all know you're a Lefty routinely defending it here. You peddle the usual allegations the Left have for Conservatives.

It's good to see you now acknowledge Hitler was a Lefty. However Mussolini's Fascism was also Left. Mussolini was even praised by Lenin for it.

I don't know enough of the marijuana debate so will need to look into it.
But fact remains Left is renowned as totalitarian MORE government, whereas conservative is renowned as LESS government. Hence your marijuana point is not relevant.

KATHR. Considering your routine PC Left rants here on CN you should not be crying you're the victim if someone is willing to challenge you on them. Your victim hood cry is yet again another tool of the Left.
---Haz27 on 10/12/17

haz27, I suggest you stop busting into unrelated threads with your trolling habits.

I also suggest you join some sort of support group to help you get your obsession(s) ..paranoia, etc, under control.

All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God yes, even Republicans.

It's horrifying that many see Conservative Republicans as sinless Christians, and actually think those who oppose that idea are called evil.

HAZ27, I'm asking you nicely to leave me alone. Now that I have asked, with CN as the witness, ...and asking if they would put you out if you don't comply.

There's nothing more you can say that you haven already said a million times here. Please stop hurrassing me.
---kathr4453 on 10/12/17


Why is it that in almost every post of yours, you spend half of it screeching at the evils of the left? Talk about hate and bigotry!

The Socialist/Communist/Fascist Left are renowned for being TOTALITARIANS.

One-dimensional thinking. It is more accurate to picture socio-economic philosophies on a two-axis scale, with left vs. right horizontal, and authoritarian vs. libertarian vertical. Hitler was a slightly left-of-center totalitarian. Mussolini was a slightly right-of-center totalitarian. They weren't evil because they were right or left, but because they were both extreme totalitarians.

If conservatives are for less government, why are they so OBSESSED with outlawing medical marijuana?
---StrongAxe on 10/12/17

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KATHR. I suggest you settle down as the Left's PC hate & bigotry that you place your trust in has blinded you.

Whilst there's going to be wrong found of all people, especially those in positions of power in politics, media, religions (consider also King David's adultery and murder), etc, it's the most powerful, biggest bullies who are the worst. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The Socialist/Communist/Fascist Left are renowned for being TOTALITARIANS.

Conservatives, however, are for LESS government, allowing for greater rights and freedoms.

The past decades of the hypocritical Left's hateful PC tyranny is proof of who is the biggest offender.

---Haz27 on 10/12/17


It's hard to hit a vein when it's pitch black because there are no lights. There was that one case recently when someone described what his relative in PR recounted - because the hospital had no power, EVERY single person in the ICU there died.

Topics change often when somebody says something vaguely related to the main topic, and then the discussion goes off on that tangent. However, Weinstein has absolutely NOTHING to do with looting whatsoever. He's a red herring whose sole purpose here is to distract from the topic at hand.
---StrongAxe on 10/11/17

//It's hard to treat someone even for bacterial infections when a hospital has no power//

You don't need power to infuse IV medicaton. Nurses learned how to count the drip drop to ensure proper amount infuses within prescribed time ordered.
You are mistaken. The Hospital had generators. Miltiary ships are powering nursing homes and hospital. The ships themselves are hospital. Ships, ships and ships full of medication, dressing and supplies.

Don't worry. The Military has taken over 12,000 Federal employees.

//Google: inquisition non-christians//

They left during all those times.

You should know better. Topics change often.

I brought up the additional double standards to Haz27
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/11/17

However, I just looked up ' Republican Conservatives sexual misconduct. OH MY GOSH! I wish I hadn't looked....the list and list of CRIMES is astounding. The recent REPUBLICAN Rep just told his mistress to get an abortion....was on the PRO LIFE board... I tell ya....they are the real hypocrites. And even recently we have that Conservative Republican News Agency steeped with Preditors...FOX NEWS.

The perverse heart, not ones political affiliation determine a sinful disposition....the perversion is even in our churches with ministers...Jim Baker, Jimmy Swagart, Ted somebody involved with drugs and men....

So again Haz27, your argument just got flushed. Let me reiterate.....your political party cannot save or excuse you from sin.
---kathr4453 on 10/11/17

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NICOLE. I only just recently heard of Weinstein and how the Left remained silent (hoping it might blow over) before joining in condemnation of sexual crimes.

The Left in Australia are just as heartless. When in office the Left encouraged thousands of illegals to sail over in dangerous conditions resulting in 1100 drownings.
When questioned about their guilt in this one Lefty politician excused it saying tragedies happen. Yet when one of these illegals in detention commits suicide under a conservative government, they're quick to say that blood is on the conservative hands.

These double standards from the heartless Left is merely aimed at manipulating the gullible into adopting the Left's PC hate and biases.
---Haz27 on 10/11/17

Leptospirosis Outbreak claims more victims in Puerto Rico October 8, 2017

This is exactly what my friend sent a message about, that Nicole scoffed at. It's now all over the news. To think Nicole claims she has relatives in PR, and has no worry at all, makes me wonder how truthful Nicole is. My Niece is married to a wonderful guy from PR, and his family are there. They will be moving to Atlanta shortly until they get their power back on. I will bet millions will migrate here. And they should, being American Citizens. I bet that just makes Trumps blood boil....
---kathr4453 on 10/11/17


It's hard to treat someone even for bacterial infections when a hospital has no power, no lights, no refrigeration for medications that require it, nowhere to treat patients, etc. Even ths simplest of tasks become impossible without infrastructure.

Please cite the year and place people couldn't leave the Catholic Faith.

Google: inquisition non-christians

And what does Weisstein have to do with looting in Puerto Rico? If that is to be a new hot topic, it should be created as a new blog, not hijack an old one.
---StrongAxe on 10/11/17

So what does this all have to do with looting during a disaster?

But yes, all the rich and famous keep each other's dirty little secrets. Even all those dirty little secrets in the RCC that was known and kept secret all the way up to Pope John Paul ll and Pope Benedict who was short lived afterwords. At least Pope Francis has tried to clean house.

All those hundreds of thousands of children molested my those PERVERTS all those years all over the world. SPOTLIGHT is a great movie to see.

So Nicole, stop acting so high and mighty throwing stones. I can't stand hypocrites.
---kathr4453 on 10/11/17

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Haz27, Hillary was also silent through all of Harvey Weinstein's 3 decades women victims.

As long as he gave them money she kept her mouth shut.

As the Obamas. All 4 (or shall I say 3 Bill hasn't said anything) were shamed into speaking out against Weinstein. 5 DAYS it took them. They didn't saying anything for 5 days because they NEVER disapproved of Weinstein's behavior.

And Michelle claims I don't like my own voice???

Well I guess they like their own voices but didn't like to hear the women's voices when they complained about Weinstein's sexual abuse.

Sick people!

I guess Michelle doesn't like her own daughter's voice either. Sending her to work for that Pervert!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/11/17

KATHR. We know everyone is flawed, whether they be RCC, Trump, you yourself, BO, Hillary.///

Love how you deflect here HAZ27.
---kathr4453 on 10/11/17

KATHR. We know everyone is flawed, whether they be RCC, Trump, you yourself, BO, Hillary.

We both differ on our critique of this. You target those who it's PC to attack, as ordained by your Leftist puppet masters.
I, however, target the biggest world wide bullies, bigots & liars, and they are your Leftist puppet masters.

Interesting to see you ignore Hillary's laughing off how she got a pedophile free of the charge of raping a child. And what about Bill?

BTW, what sin can Christians be charged with?
Rom 8:33 Who shall lay ANYTHING (this includes sin) to the charge of God's elect?
Our spiritual position in Christ (where there's no sin, 1John 3:5) means we cannot be charged with sin (1John 3:9).
---Haz27 on 10/11/17

Romans 3:23 - For all have sin and fall short of the glory of God.

1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all righteousness.
---RichardC on 10/10/17

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HAz27, I could make the same statement about you, your silence on the horrible sins of the Catholic Church says you are as guilty of the same. Yet you profess to be sinless. Another false statement many here have tried to correct you on, but being brainwashed as you so easily are, refuse to listen to sound doctrine.

Since Clinton and Obama didn't pander to Christians to get votes, it is what it is. To say you are a Christian and say you have never been convicted of sin.....WOW. HIS ADULTRY he never acknowledged as sin. Now we have to watch 2 new reality show, right up Trumps alley....

Who's Dumber than Trump
The Real Housewives of Donald Trump.

Why do you excuse the ----- grabbing? HYPOCRITE!
---kathr4453 on 10/10/17

KATHR. Your Leftist PC hate, name calling, bigotry, etc has been going on here at CN well before Trump's arrival.

Your deflection to making a claim that you just hate Trump is not going to help you appear as a rational impartial person, as you hoped. I've seen too much of your regressive Left PC rants over the past years.

Even your claim that Trump is a "a cheater, liar, narcissist, trouble maker" exposes your Leftist bias because of your silence over the corruption, deceit, murder, narcissism, sexism, racism, etc of BO and Clinton's.

---Haz27 on 10/10/17

There's a poem, called IF


If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can keep your head when all men doubt you, and make allowances for their doubting too.

( more fabulous verses ..not enough room to post)

It ends with IF and WHEN you can do all these, you will be a man my son. I believe it was written by a Christian, but something that will greatly bless all men.

It's the complete opposite of "The Art of the Tantrum". By Trump.

It doesn't matter what Steve Bannon writes about Corker to excuse and hail Trumps behavior's a person who lacks self control....the bible says is an attribute of sinful flesh.
---kathr4453 on 10/10/17

That's right Obamasboy, Trump is wiping the floor with the RINOs.

Trump delayed his remarks to Corker out of respect to the Las Vegas Massacre.

Corker was dumb to believe he could make a - comment and get away with it.

I am glad FINALLY a Republican is standing up for himself or herself.

Trump is right, Corker only leaving the Senate because he knew he wouldn't get re-elected (esp. not in the South!)
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/10/17

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Haz27, it's apparent you don't listen to others, and are too preoccupied with your continued ranting and name calling.

I said I DONT LIKE TRUMP...PERIOD..END OF CONVERSATION. you just can't grasp that. He is a cheater, liar, narcissis, trouble maker, causing division within his own party, of which I showed he CHANGED parties...and is really a democrat. He pandered to Christians and exhibits anything but Christian values.

I hope Marco Rubio runs in 2020, and WINS.
---kathr4453 on 10/10/17

I'm glad to see Trump criticizing his RINO Republican coworkers. This is part of why he was elected. He's been doing a pretty good job at cleaning house and getting the wolves in sheep's clothing out of the Republican party.

Trump beat 16 other Republicans for the White House precisely because the Republican party has been going down the liberal sewer. Despite what you may think, Trump was not elected to beat the Democrats. The Democrats party already committed suicide by running Hillary. As the only non-politician in the race, Trump was elected to clean up the Republican party and make it conservative again.
---ObamasBoy on 10/10/17

KATHR. LOL. So much praise for REP's...from you with all your Leftist PC values?

We see same in Australia. We have a so called "conservative" party called LNP. It's dominated by Leftists (the prime minister having jumped ship from the Leftist political party ).

There are some conservatives within the LNP but their voice is little match for the far Left that dominate our politics, mainstream media, universities, etc.

Any conservative who does rise in popularity is treated with the same vile hatred, ridicule and slander, as Trump.

As the conservatives have so little say in Western nations, is it any wonder that there is so much turmoil and division.
---Haz27 on 10/10/17

I am so glad Republican Bob Corker spoke up this weekend, having enough of Trumps Twitter Tantrums. Trump has attacked all his REPUBLICAN co-workers. I also love REPUBLICAN Senator Bob Corker saying he was very upset at how Trump handles the Charlottsville issue, showing anything but a lack of real leadership.

I love MY REPUBLICAN party and hate that Trump is destroying the Republican Party, and turning Conservatism into a dictatorship. It could be because of him, that no one will ever trust Republicans again and that will be the final tragedy in America.

I love Marco Rubio, and Scott REPUBLICANS , FL who showed enormous compassion and help to PR. We have awesome Republican leaders....hang in there.
---kathr4453 on 10/10/17

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KATHR. You've been deceived by your Leftist puppet masters, hence you're blinded by the hate and bigotry they've instilled in you.

You and I have disagreed on politics for the past 7 years I've been on CN, simply because you so eagerly push the PC lies and hate from the Left.

I have no denominational affiliation, nor political affiliation, but I most strongly oppose any group that becomes the biggest bully & liar on the field, and that would clearly be the Left.

BTW, you and the current Pope seem to share the same political world view, whereas many Catholics disagree with the Pope's political correctness.
---Haz27 on 10/9/17

"Love one another as I have loved you."
---Loony1 on 10/9/17

Haz27, your alt right comments say you think being alt right is the same as being Born Again. That's the problem I see with so many who profess to be Christians bringing politics into Christianity. And it is this kind of thinking that will have many bowing down to worship the beast. Because they do not have discernment to know religion and politics are not one in the same. But with the Moral Majority and those like Pat Robertson and Son co-mingling the two as you are lapping all that need to REPENT HAZ27.

And now you say those who oppose the Catholic Church are also lefties.... OH PLEASE SAY IT AINT SO. Is your mark on your hand or forehead Haz27? I've never heard so much nonsense in my life ..except from you.
---kathr4453 on 10/9/17

COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM. Christians are not to be yoked with evil.---kathr4453

Kathr. Why do you then yoke yourself with the evil DEM's?

You always push the Left's PC hate, bigotry, racism, lies, etc as if you think it's ok.
---Haz27 on 10/8/17

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Karthr, I'm glad you and Rob are happy. Many people on CN love you.

Let's not rehash your made-up notions of how the world operates.

I am very secure in my beautiful Mother Church the Catholic Church and her Bridegroom Jesus Christ.

I'm teaching catechism to the 3rd and 4th graders. Plus I'm helping out with adult education once a week.

Tt's an EXCITING TIME to be Catholic today.

Catholic proud and loving it.

May the Lord Jesus Christ watch over Pope Francis and all Bishops and all Priests Deacon's and Religious.

You need to be in love with your own faith, in love with your church and especially in love with Jesus. You won't seem mad all the time.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/8/17

Thanks Rob, appreciate your comment. Trump bad behavior and HUGE EGO is rubbing off on Nicole, who must be having an identity crisis here. And now she thinks Jesus Christ is the Catholic Church, filled with pediofiles, nuns who murder and flush babies into septic tanks, for lack of funds and overworked??? Money laundering exposed, taking advantage of poor uneducated souls by telling them if they pass through a doorway ( 2000 Jubilee) their sins will be forgiven.

And she calls this the Gospel. Yes the Catholic Church does work,harder than many crooked cults fleecing the sheep.

COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM. Christians are not to be yoked with evil.
---kathr4453 on 10/8/17

Kathr: Does everything have to pass through your sarcasm and hateful remarks?//

Sweetie, I am trying to show you how to be nice to others by example.

//I am only passing on info.//

Claiming you have friends in PR isn't passing on info, it is making up stuff to try to make people believe your posting.

//No one asked you to comment...//

Remember you are not god.

//And why the snide remark about my friends? I have friends from all over the world.....TROLL!--kathr4453

Darling, didn't your mother teach you better than to call people names?

Be a good Christian
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/8/17

Kathr: your real belief here Nicole....that all those outside the Catholic Church are lost????? what a hypocrite you are......after stating in other places otherwise.//

I NEVER said that?

You are confusing me with your own comments.

//I'm sad for you are lost. You do not believe THE GOSPEL.---Kathr 10/07/17


//And Jesus Christ IS NOT the Catholic Church, anymore than He is Israel.//

He is both! You need to read your Bible more and stop speaking nonsenses.

//You teach CULT philosophy.//

Sweetie, I give more Scriptures than anyone on CN including you.

BTW, when you stop calling me names I will stop calling you names.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/8/17

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Again Nicole, just more of your internet trolling comments. Does everything have to pass through your sarcasm and hateful remarks?

I am only passing on info. No one asked you to comment.....and put down needs being put out there. Just because you say you know nursing, doesn't give you the right to minimize anothers concern. However I will pass on your I'm sure they will really give a hoot. I'll let them know this came from a Trumpsters.....

And why the snide remark about my friends? I have friends from all over the world.....TROLL!
---kathr4453 on 10/8/17

Kathr, I know you are despised and hated by many because of it, but I thank you for sharing the truth!
---Rob on 10/8/17

Kathr: This just came in from my friends from PR.//

Now you have friends in PR?

"Outbreak of conjunctivitis.." is placed on your top list of problems? An EYE infection. Scabies? Mites treatable with medication.

Lice? IT WON'T KILL THEM! They can wash their hair later.

People have SEVERE HEART CONDITION AND CANCER problems, hungry and thirsty and you lead with simple treatable diseases?

Leptosperosis death ONLY occurs after several MONTHS WITHOUT TREATMENT. Key point no treatment which if they are DX the bacteria then they HAVE medication to treat the bacteria. It hasn't been 15 days for rat exposure.

CDC have to report OUTBREAKS by law. The CDC reported 175 cases with 26 death in PR in 2010!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/8/17

OH so now we get to your real belief here Nicole....that all those outside the Catholic Church are lost????? what a hypocrite you are......after stating in other places otherwise.

This is another issue I have with those who are brainwashed in believing if your not in the Catholic Churxh, you are lost.

Again, the CHURCH are those IN CHRIST. And Jesus Christ IS NOT the Catholic Church, anymore than He is Israel. The CHURCH consists of those who have CHRIST IN THEM. Colossians 1:24-27. Nothing about anyone being in the Catholic Church....

You teach CULT philosophy. REPENT and come out of that Harlot, Mystery Babylon...filled with sin beyond words. CHRIST is PURE with a PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS.
---kathr4453 on 10/8/17

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"For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse, for it is written, 'CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM.' Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident, for, 'THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.' However, the Law is not of faith, on the contrary, 'HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM.' Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us -- for it is written, 'CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE' -- in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. (Galatians 3:10-14)
---kathr4453 on 10/7/17

Kathr: If you break just one..YOUR DEAD...GOING TO HELL,//

No, no, no, Jesus left us confession. John 20:21-23

//WITHOUT ANY HOPE. WHY BECAUSE THE LAW is not of FAITH. And those without faith are lost as lost can be.//

Come home to the Catholic Church so you won't be lost.

Our Sabbath worship starts on Saturday Evening to several Masses on Sundays.

You are WELCOME.

//I'm sad for you are lost. You do not believe THE GOSPEL.//

I believe Jesus'Gospel, NOT Kathr's Gospel

//The LAW is not the Gospel . Don't you know that?--kathr4453

Please read Obamaboy's post where I thanked him. Maybe you can understand him.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/7/17

This just came in from my friends from PR. Please pray ..

Outbreak of conjunctivitis...
Outbreak of scabies...
Outbreak of lice...
And now outbreak of leptosperosis (poisoning with rat orin)... 3 deaths in have already been reported and there are 9 cases with possible contagion at Carolina Hospital, brothers brothers and in canovanas... do not drink water from "Springs" or bathe in them... eye with the children when they are playing. Rats urinate wherever it is and if you have contact with the urine and you feel symptoms run to the hospital as you take your organs and tear them to pieces at least (72 hours). Wash everything you buy, cans, bottles, etc.... for your sake and your family...
---kath4453 on 10/7/17

Does Obamaboy keep the sabbath. I think he said he does. Yet the Catholic Church does not. So with that Nicole, maybe you should change your faith to be SDA's and keep the whole law.

All 613 Laws and ordinances.

Good luck with that. If you break just one..YOUR DEAD...GOING TO HELL, WITHOUT ANY HOPE. WHY BECAUSE THE LAW is not of FAITH. And those without faith are lost as lost can be.

THE LAW IS NOT OF FAITH...Just remember that. We are saved BY GRACE through FAITH, and neither has to do with the law.

Neither Grace OR Faith is the LAW, but something entirely different. ...

I'm sad for you are lost. You do not believe THE GOSPEL. The LAW is not the Gospel . Don't you know that?
---kathr4453 on 10/7/17

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I couldn't explain it better.
In fact I COULDN'T explain it the way you did.


The word "fulfill" in that verse simply means "to carryout". If you read the surrounding verses, you will see that is exactly what Jesus is saying. "Do not think I have come to abolish the law, but to carry it out... To practice it... To keep and obey the law". It does not mean to end or terminate. It means to do. The entire chapter surrounding that word is about Jesus stressing the importance of not only keeping and obeying the law, but going above and beyond what the law even requires....---ObamasBoyon 10/7
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/7/17

//Matthew15:26...Ok Nicole, what does this have to do with anything?//

Are you capable of reading verses before and after the cited verse?

You claimed the CC patterned our charity system from the Jewish people.

I am telling you that Jesus demands MORE from the Catholic Church!
You don't just treat your own kind with charity, but to everyone.

//The Gentiles were referred to as didn't think it was talking about house pets.//

In the parable the dog used WAS THE HOUSE PET! It was under the table. Or you think the dog begging was the neighbor's house pet?

Anyway, do you know what is a parable?

It seems you are one who doesn't have the ear to hear Jesus speaks about in the Bible.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/24/17

Matthew15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the childrens bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Ok Nicole, what does this have to do with anything? The Gentiles were referred to as didn't think it was talking about house pets. So are you saying your wages you never received is considered casting it to dogs by the Catholic Church? Even Jesus praised a good Samaratian for caring for someone ....

So... Exactly who are the dogs here to you Nicole...Protestants? Non the ones Mother Theresa cared for? Who? And Nicole Matthew 15 was in reference to SPIRITUAL MATTERS, not physical ones or not the poor or hungry in which even Israel helped AND was not out of the Levites 10 % either.
---kathr4453 on 9/23/17

You shall not take a wife, nor shall you have sons or daughters in this place (now finish reading verse 2, (Jeremiah 16:1 AND 2). For thus says the Lord: Do not enter the house of mourning, nor go to lament or bemoan them . . . Also you shall not go into the house of feasting to sit with them, to eat and drink.

So, Jeremiah was not allowed to get married, have children, go to funerals, or attend (wedding) feasts. Wow.

And you use these verses to support a Catholic Priesthood? Those were dangerous times for Judah, as you ( I'm sure you did not) READ WHAT HAPPENED and WHY at that time God instructed Jeremiah not to marry.....and ONLY APPLIED TO JEREMIAH..Not Prophets in general.
---kathr4453 on 9/23/17

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Kathr: Note in Numbers 18:21, 10% ONLY went to the Levi

Show me OT Scripture where God commanded the Jews to give 10% to the Gentiles?

In fact do you remember Matthew 15:26?

No the CC isn't following the Jewish old method of charity. We are following Jesus' charity commandment.

//And women were not forced to not marry and serve the temple in stead.//

Where you forced to marry your husband? Neither was I. In fact, many try to enter the convent and are turned away.

//Even the Priests and High Priests in Israel married and had children--Kathr

So God was wrong in Jeremiah 16:2?
"You must not marry and have sons or daughters."

Paul is wrong in 1 Cor 7:1 and 8?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/22/17

StrongAxe, you have to remember you were not in a Community. You still had to drive home, take care of your family, personal things and etc.

If it wasn't for my illness, I would have been able to continue the work as the Sisters do today.

The Sisters have a system and it works.

Look at Mother Teresa's Sisters. They work much HARDER than our Community everyday of the week.

//How can Christians be called Christ's slaves,//

Are you saying Paul was wrong in calling himself a slave of Christ? Romans 1:1

//the RCC used to forbid people from leaving.---StrongAxe

It is so IRONIC to hear PROTESTANTS make that argument.

Please cite the year and place people couldn't leave the Catholic Faith.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/22/17

SORRY Moderator, I didn't see that you DID POST my post to StrongAxe on the Commandments of Jesus.

There are two 'Commandments of Jesus.'

---Nicole_Lacey on 9/15/17

Should Christians ever "loot"?
---David on 9/15/17

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I believe David gave the best response. I would not only pay for the items after order was restored, but leave my name, phone number, address and an itemized list. Plus, I would share them with my neighbor.

StrongAxe is correct that the food will spoil anyway and they can not sell damaged water bottles or cans.

I would also call the police to let them know that I took the items.

I am sure the Police Officer would give me a strong lecture, but allow me to keep the necessary items.

Police Officers and Business Store Owners have hearts as everyone else.

I confess it always makes me CRINGE to see videos of my brothers and sisters as the Looters 90% of the time.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/15/17

I would hate to be put in this situation if I really needed food or water.
---Terence on 9/15/17

Live on St. John - Even on a good day saw bad things happening -
---RichardC on 9/14/17

If a natural disaster occurs, and people are starving, and there is food going to waste inside a store that can save their lives and it's going to go rotten anyway, I don't think anyone would fault them for taking it. However, who "needs" jewelry or electronic equipment? Most of the looters you see on TV are people using natural disasters as an excuse to needlessly enrich themselves. They're just using the disaster as an excuse for theft. They're doing it not out of necessity, but out of greed.
---StrongAxe on 9/14/17

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"Thou shalt not steal", yet "men do not despise a thief, if he steals to satisfy his soul when he is hungry. But, if he be found, he shall restore sevenfold, he shall give all the substance of his house." Proverb 6:30,31
---josef on 9/13/17

In almost all situations looting would be wrong. It would have to be life or death definitely not for pleasure.
---Tim on 9/12/17

I don't see any difference between burglary and looting, unless it's food or water taken as an act of survival, with the intent of paying for the items when order is restored.
---David on 9/12/17

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