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End Of World September 2017

What do you think about these so-called christian leaders advocating the end of the world, or beginning thereof, on September 23, 2017?

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Nicole_Lacey:

Did Rosa Parks sue the bus company? No. She just sat down, period.

The kneeling isn't speech (which is unprotected). The REFUSAL TO STAND is the REFUSAL of political speech - which IS protected.

Please quote something SPECIFIC, and specify exactly which message I said it in. A vague "all the last two weeks" or isn't evidence. You must be SPECIFIC.

That you disagree with my points does NOT prove you are right and I am wrong. That I was not born here doesn't make me incapable of learning. I have read much about American law and many other subjects.
---StrongAxe on 10/17/17


If the NFL PLAYERS had the right to kneel they would SUE the NFL.

They can't because they are wrong. 1st Amendment doesn't apply at the work place.

That's why there are whistle blower laws to protect certain speeches.

But even that ONLY protects if one can PROVE a law was broken and they spoke out against that broken law.

Now Kaepernick is suing the NFL claiming he is been blacklisted when HE REQUESTED HIMSELF to get out of his CONTRACT last year.

And he turned down another contract because they only wanted to pay him 900,000 the minimum--Daily Caller

He also doesn't understand that his behavior is his own fault.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/16/17


Trump is his own worst enemy. The more he shoots off his mouth, the more he gets in trouble....because he simply does not understand the Constitution or the Government. He thinks he's running a business where he can act like a typical tyrant boss, having temper tantrums, and then continues to stew about it, where you know those 6am tweets are from someone OBSESSING....he's definitely PASSAVE AGGRESSIVE, and those kind of folks can be very dangerous. He created ANOTHER FIRE STORM , one by threatening the NFL with some TAX issues he will personally enforce....he says. He thinks he's so tough with the threats....but may find himself impeached after all with that line of illegal aggression.
---kathr4453 on 10/16/17


StrongAxe: You wasted half your message chiding me rather than answering my question. Your claim that I don't understand the 1st amendment is empty without PROOF.//

All your last 2 weeks of blogs were proof!

I have directly answer EVERY example you threw at me. PROVING your understanding of the 1st Amendment is off.

I believe they were off because you DIDN'T go to SCHOOL here as a child or teenage. Even TODAY kids are MISLED!

I even GAVE cases to Kathr using the WORDS 'work place' but you both are just determined to LIVE in La La land rather than to accept you were wrong about the 1st Amendment.

Plus I believe you just don't want to admit or apologize for mistakenly getting mad at me.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/16/17


StrongAxe: As I said, they can FORBID certain speech, but not DEMAND certain speech.

REALLY?

They ALSO DEMANDED them to say 'VOTE FOR HILLARY'!

Paid Staffers were TOLD to say their slogan: 'I'm with her' and 'Forward'

Someone came up with the slogans and FORCED their employees to say the words.

If someone refused to say the words and got fired for NON-COMPLIANCE they couldn't CLAIM freedom of speech esp. policital speech at the WORK PLACE at the Hillary campaign headquarters or affiliates across America.

Only the Volunteers could NOT be forced to say the SLOGANS and trust me they were KICKED OUT for refusing to say them.

The 1st Amendment ONLY applies in certain areas within certain situations.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/16/17




Standing and pledging is not a LAW, enforced by anyone, however is politically correct to do so. BUT it's Trump who wants to totally demolish anything politically correct, like RESPECTING others for starters. Name calling in front of the whole world, violent GIF'S is so disrespectful EVEN FOX NEWS HAS OPENLY DENOUNCED TRUMP FOR DOING.

Trump threatening some sort of tax this or that against the NFL, would again be forcing his way into the IRS to punish....again....is not legal, and it's Trumps open tweeting that now has him in trouble and will cost him because it is an abuse of power.

If it were simply a law Nicole, it would have been nipped in the bud......now Trump has made his case an abuse of power.
---kathr4453 on 10/16/17


Nicole_Lacey:

You wasted half your message chiding me rather than answering my question. Your claim that I don't understand the 1st amendment is empty without PROOF.

I lived here more than half my life. I was required to swear to uphold the constitution (so it behooves me to understand it). Natural born citizens aren't, and many DON'T understand it, including many lawmakers who pass flagrantly unconstitutional laws.


ObamasBoy:

1st Amendment prohibits Congress from limiting free speech, but not private individuals. In West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette 1943, Supreme Court ruled loyalty CANNOT be forced. Your boss can fire you for profanity, but NOT for refusing to pledge allegiance.
---StrongAxe on 10/16/17


StrongAxe: You weren't speaking TO me, but ABOUT me. How did I "not understand" the 1st Amendment?//

CORRECT!

I started the post to Kathr as we are all thought as a child to address the ONE you are speaking.

Is it a SURPRISE to you that I believe you don't understand our 1st Amendment?

What have we been debating about in the last 2 weeks?????

Kathr and I were born here and went to school here. As children the School system (NOT anymore) beated into our heads on WHAT and HOW the 1st Amendment applies to our lives.

Ask Jerry, I am sure he got the same American school curriculum as a child.

I stand by my comment.

I understand you (strongly disagree), but NOT Kathr on this matter.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/16/17


StrongAxe, please cite the constitutional amendments stating that certain speech can be forbidden but not demanded.
---ObamasBoy on 10/16/17


The only fish in the barrel that got shot is you Nicole. The case you sited has nothing whatsoever about employers FORCING anyone to say anything.

What will be a red flag is if a law is passed that American Citizens must bow to , or salute to, or pledge to, ....as we see is the case we see and saw in many communist or extreme religious controlled countries.

I just saw an awesome movie last night , true story in fact, " Within the Wirlwind" how Russian Citizens were treated during Stalin's reign of terror.

When I hear Trump wanting to revoke the licenses of News Agencies who don't worship and praise Trump on every turn......YIKES.
---kathr4453 on 10/16/17




Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: WHO SAID YOU DID? I was addressing Kathr NOT you.
PLEASE make sure I was speaking to you before you start fussing at me.

Earlier: Kathr, I can understand StrongAxe NOT understanding the 1st Amendment but you?

You weren't speaking TO me, but ABOUT me. How did I "not understand" the 1st Amendment? Please cite what I said incorrectly.

The Supreme Court determined speech includes acts of expression, whether by voice, print, or action.

Yes they can. The Hiliary Compaign would NOT tolerate their PAID Staffers to say "VOTE FOR TRUMP!"

As I said, they can FORBID certain speech, but not DEMAND certain speech.
---StrongAxe on 10/15/17


StrongAxe: I never said the First Amendment applied to private employers.//

WHO SAID YOU DID? I was addressing Kathr NOT you.

//Please criticize what I actually say, not what you think I mean.//

PLEASE make sure I was speaking to you before you start fussing at me.

//an employee declining to say something that an employer wants him to say (e.g. saluting the flag).//

Saluting the flag is NOT SAYING ANYTHING! That is an action peformed. And they can and have if it is a private business as the NFL

//An employer can FORBID certain kinds of speech, but it cannot DEMAND certain kinds of speech.//

Yes they can. The Hiliary Compaign would NOT tolerate their PAID Staffers to say "VOTE FOR TRUMP!"
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/15/17


Kathr: Lets just see how it plays out//

The Players and the NFL are losing. Even ESPN host said so.

//no employer can force a JW to pledge either.//

Pledging is speaking which the NFL isn't forcing anyone to pledge either.

Are you suggesting not one Player in the NFL is a JW?

//Rather than acting like your now a lawyer and judge Nicole, let's let the experts and those qualified in that area work it out.//

????

THEY DID. Who do you think tried those cases? Lawyers and Judges.

//Yes you can quote this person or that, and so can others....and still get no where.//

Wrong! I quoted Judges who did get some where.

Kathr, I do enjoy debating you.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/15/17


Nicole_Lacey:

I never said the First Amendment applied to private employers. I said the Supreme Court ruled that employers cannot FORCE employees to perform political acts. Please criticize what I actually say, not what you think I mean.

There is a big difference between an employee insisting on saying something that an employer does not want him to say (e.g. proselytizing for religion or politics), and an employee declining to say something that an employer wants him to say (e.g. saluting the flag). An employer can FORBID certain kinds of speech, but it cannot DEMAND certain kinds of speech.
---StrongAxe on 10/15/17


Lets just see how it plays out Nicole.

To be clear, also no employer can force a JW to pledge either.

Rather than acting like your now a lawyer and judge Nicole, let's let the experts and those qualified in that area work it out. You are not. Yes you can quote this person or that, and so can others....and still get no where.
---kathr4453 on 10/15/17


The NFL Players are NOT abused. The only ones allowed to have guns in the stadiums are the Police Officers.

They don't want to protest them because they need to police to PROTECT them from the crowd.

BTW, you or NurseRobert claimed it was the anthem and not the flag.

The Flag is ALWAYS present when the anthem is played. It is towards the flag one faces while the anthem is heard.

//like Pence did..When he staged his pre-arranged fake walk out,//

You do REALIZE you are calling the Players stupid for the pre-arranged walk out? They were so dumb to play into Pence's hands.

No, they knew he was going to be there and tried to COPY the Hamlet Broadway show Cast which BACK FIRED on them.

IDIOTS
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/15/17


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Kathr, I can understand StrongAxe NOT understanding the 1st Amendment but you? NOT IN THE WORK PLACE. NFL is a BUSINESS!

*****The 1st Amendment DOES NOT apply to PRIVATE employment, Pickering v. Board of Education and Garcetti v. Ceballos Schumann v. Dianon Sys Connecticut Supreme Court RULED that a private sector employee was NOT ENTITLED to FREE SPEECH protection, even though his speech concerned JOB-RELATED MATTERS, where the speech was disruptive to his employment, interfered with his job performance, strained his relationship with his supervisor, CREATED DIVISION, and was insubordinate ((i.e. NFL)-I added that part.)
by Benjamin E. Widener The 1st Amendment "Playing Field": Regulating Speech in the Workplace 2/28/2014
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/15/17


Nicole_Lacey:

WHO was not abused? Context please.

You aren't forced to watch a protest. You can not go to a game. You can go to a game and walk out, like Pence did. The only difference is that when you walk out, you lose the price of a ticket. When he staged his pre-arranged fake walk out, it cost the American taxpayers a quarter million dollars. WE were forced to pay for HIS protest.

Yes, wear your shirt and eat hotdogs, as you will.

Players have to wear uniforms. So what? So do many other professions. They can't eat while on duty. So what? Neither can most other workers (except on non-paid lunch breaks).
---StrongAxe on 10/14/17


StrongAxe, they were NOT abused! They were NOT shot or killed by Police, nor by the flag and NOT one Player DROP DEAD from standing up during the anthem!

And people DON'T have to PAY to be abused by them! Their rights do not supersede my rights! One CAN'T be forced to watch a protest!

//You celebrate the anthem your way,//

YUP! I CAN wear a black shirt with blue dots, no helmet with my FAT body eating hotdogs during the game.

//they celebrate it their way. Everybody is happy.//

NOPE!

They HAVE to wear certain color uniforms. HAVE to wear a helmet and they CAN'T have FAT BODIES and NO EATING during the game

WOW, I wonder why?

//Free enterprise in action.//

Apparently not for everyone
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/14/17


Nicole, the issue is actually the 1st amendment.....and as far as I'm concerned, that is more important to me. Especially seeing Trump now wants to take away any news agency's license that says anything bad about him. Only having FOX as the only news source in America sounds more like communist countries who want people to hear one thing. That the real issue in N KOREA. They have no clue what REALLY is going on in the world.

They are NOT attacking the Flag, Military or Veterans. Just another TWISTED LIE many want to force into the equation by none other than Trump, who is hitting back only because the NFL no longer stays at his properties. It's personal with him. And his interference into private businesses is also concerning.
---kathr4453 on 10/14/17


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Nicole_Lacey:

Rosa Parks didn'f force ANYONE to do ANYTHING. The only thing she did was to refuse to allow OTHERS to force her where to sit.

I don't see what good 1 minute of Trump speeches will do. Every time he opens his mouth, his speeches are incoherent mumbling. They are even worse than George W. Bush's, whose speeches were bad.

Standing at the anthem is not their job. It is called the National Football League, because they are hired for their ability to play football. It is not the National Anthem League, and they do not hire people based on their ability to stand at attention.
---StrongAxe on 10/14/17


Finding out that Paula White is Pres. Trumps favorite minister, ( she's crooked as crooked as they come) and is very involved in his presidency is .....YIKES.

For those who don't know who she is...well, you need to find out.

So Jerry, THAT'S what everyone, especially REAL DISCERNING CHRISTIANS should be watching out for. And THAT alone is what God has warned us about concerning these last days.

And those like Jerry and Haz27 are real obstructionists ...leading people astray thinking politics with religion is going to be what one should put their hope and faith in.

Shame on you both.
---kathr4453 on 10/14/17


Kathr: Rosa Parks forced people to watch her and many others sit in the front of the bus and at lunch counters where no blacks were allowed//

Your point? It was deemed ILLEGAL!

Wrong analogy, try another one.

Chira: No one even at these games are FORCED to watch the protests or held HOSTAGE.//

Okay, the next time you go to the MOVIES, we will play 1 minute recordings of Trump's Speeches BEFORE you see your movie.

Then MAYBE, you will see what we are talking about?

//The people can also just close their eyes if they so choose and focus on the flag, or God or whatever else...they have options//

INDEED! Because they are NOT working! The PLAYER are WORKING!

You all need to know the difference!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/14/17


"What do you think about these so-called christian leaders advocating the end of the world, or beginning thereof, on September 23, 2017?"

I think they are looking pretty stupid about now.



Haz: The leftists are such because it is their religion, and they are fanatical about their religion.


---Jerry6593 on 10/14/17


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Like I stated on another post Haz27, all this rhetoric is exactly what Satan wants Christians to be sucked into while he is working his magic making sure folks like you, who should be sharing the Gospel with the lost AREN'T. Whether one is left or right, black or white, it doesn't matter, the Gospel needs to be preached to all so that they will escape the wrath which is to come....in Gods Eyes Haz27...you're filibustering.....and Satan is using you for that very purpose. WAKE UP.

And those who think being a republican conservative and preaching politics is the same as the Gospel is lost as lost can be.

Take your demonic gospel and obstruction of the Gospel somewhere else.
---kathr4453 on 10/14/17


KATHR. Your excuse from the deceitful Left is flawed. The dominant ethnic make up that exists in the most racist countries (India, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Vietnam, Algeria, Morocco, Mali, Zambia, Bangladesh, etc), is similar to what is seen in least racist countries (Argentina, Colombia, Latvia, Chile, Belarus, Croatia, Hungary, Serbia, Tanzania, etc).

It's just racist intolerance seen in some cultures (India, Jordan, Zambia, Bangladesh), and not in others (like USA, Australia, Russia etc).

Yet the Left push deceitful propaganda finding racism where there's none. It's simply the Left's deliberately divisive identity politics at play.

You & AXE need to step out of that Leftist echo chamber.


---Haz27 on 10/13/17


Trump says protests are disrepectful to the military, yet MILITARY
---StrongAxe on 10/12/17

Just today I saw a video of Trump sitting through Retreat during an interview with Sean Hannity. He ask, Are they playing that for you or for me?

He added: "Theyre playing that in honour of his ratings. Did you see how good his ratings were? He's beating everybody."

The Commander in Chief could not recognize this flag honor, but complains about football players??

Even Robin Williams, who also did not understand retreat, stood in silence until it was done.
---NurseRobert on 10/13/17


Haz27:

What other countries do is irrelevant. I am not talking about them. If you are on trial for a crime, it is no defense to say "but others do it too". At the Final Judgment, see how far saying "but others are sinners too" will get you.

I agree western countries are less racist than others, but there is still racism in America. (Just yesterday there was a video of a military service woman who reported that a total stranger chased her, pounded on her car window, said that n*** like her should not serve in the military, and that she should die.)

And again, you spent MORE THAN HALF your message screaming at the "deceitful" left. I suggest more objectivity.
---StrongAxe on 10/13/17


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Haz27, you may want to educate yourself with the definition of ethnonationalism before ranting your ignorance here. America has always been a nation of ALL nationalities and races. Not like the middle east or India. There is no comparison.

BUT even from the start, those who saw Race as black, Yellow Red and White, have always suppressed native Americans, The Chinese, and Slaves as being less than. Even before there was such a thing as democrats. This attitude came from WHITE SETTLERS., and just trickled down. Remember the Carlisle School trying to turn Native Americans into White English folk? Or even white missionaries who thought white customs WERE Christianity....has nothing to do with democrats....
---kathr4453 on 10/13/17


AXE. Data from the World Value Survey found India was the most racist country, followed by various middle eastern Islamic countries & African countries (did I just hear a Lefty fall off their chair at hearing this fact black Africans are amongst most racist?).

Western countries like USA, Australia were the least racist.

Of course this contradicts the deceitful propaganda of the Left.

But then we see it's the deceitful Left who always push divisive identity politics, so in reality it's the Left (DEM's, BLM, Fake News media, Humanities departments at universities, etc) throughout the West who are most racist.

I suggest you stop trusting the deceitful propaganda of the racist Left's Fake News, DEMs, and BLM, etc.
---Haz27 on 10/12/17


Nicole_Lacey:

So people don't get to oppose abuse unless they've personally encountered it?

The ticket states FOOTBALL NOT protest tickets!

And NOT anthem either. You celebrate the anthem your way, they celebrate it their way. Everybody is happy.

People go to football games because they want to watch the players. If the players do things people don't want them to, they will stop watching. Free enterprise in action.

Trump says protests are disrepectful to the military, yet MILITARY sports teams have also started engaging in them, so THEY obviously don't mind!
---StrongAxe on 10/12/17


No one even at these games are FORCED to watch the protests or held HOSTAGE. If they are doing as they want the players to do, which is to stand, hand over heart and face the flag than they will not be looking at the players. The people can also just close their eyes if they so choose and focus on the flag, or God or whatever else...they have options
---Chria9396 on 10/13/17


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Rosa Parks forced people to watch her and many others sit in the front of the bus and at lunch counters where no blacks were allowed. Yes, it did make many UNCOMFORTABLE as it should have. That WAS the purpose. The whites probably got their money back too.

Trump is merely hitting back because the NFL and many sports leagues no longer stay at Trump properties, which has openly EMBARASSED Trump. If Trump really wants to honor the Military, he needs to OPENLY AND PUBLICALLY APOLOGIZE TO JOHN MCCAIN.

And Ben Sasse, A REPUBLICAN recently hit this whole issue on the head, now that Trump wants to pull News Agency licenses because he doesn't AGAIN like free speech, or defend the 1st Amendment. He took an OATH TO UPHOLD....scary!
---kathr4453 on 10/13/17


//..why Kaepernick started this protest? Who cares if the police are there//

WE CARE because even though Kaepernick said police abuse but NEVER ONCE FACED THEM!

//Trapped???//

Yes. People in the stadium are TRAPPED.

The ticket states FOOTBALL NOT protest tickets!

//LEAVE. No one is holding a gun to your head.---NurseRobert

No they are HOLDING their money!

Even Directv understands and offering FULL REFUNDS to anyone who paid for NFL package because they DIDN'T pay to watch protest.

No one is denying them to protest BEFORE and AFTER the NFL, but they won't because even the PLAYERS knows NO ONE WILL WATCH THEM!

They have to hijack an audience to FORCE people to watch them.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/12/17


Nicole_Lacey:

No, the police don't have to believe you. However, if you're lying on the ground and your hands are in the air and there's no weapon in sight, and you say "I'm complying. I'm unarmed!", and they shoot you ANYWAY becauze they "perceive" a threat, then they're being overly paranoid, and have essentially murdered you. And guess who they're usually more paranoid about, whites or blacks?

Racism in this country isn't just white vs. black - it's white vs. non-white (including black, Latino, Asian, Native American, or anyone else.)
---StrongAxe on 10/12/17


StrongAxe, News 4 busted them. If both persons DIDN'T behave the same. Remember the nonWhite man was PULLED over because he was brandishing the gun as shown in the nonedited video

The White guy had the weapon behind his back. Nevertheless NEIGHER men were arrested.

Your video GAVE the impression that the Black guy with corn rolls in his head (a trick and WASN'T BLACK) was arrested and had his gun confiscated.

If the White man REALLY wanted to prove he had more privilege: Go to Nevada, brandished his gun as he was walking. Instead he keeps the gun out of his hands and remains standing

//shout "I'm unarmed"//

REALLY? So the Police HAS to believe you? Keeping your hands UP is better than shouting
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/12/17


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---Nicole_Lacey on 10/12/17
You really have no clue, do you. Did you bother to look up why Kaepernick started this protest? Who cares if the police are there (btw, they are hired by the stadium to act as security).

Trapped??? Are you kidding? If you don't want to see the protest the LEAVE. No one is holding a gun to your head.
---NurseRobert on 10/12/17


Me:..our Country..NurseRobert: The presumption the flag represents only the military -rather than all citizens//

You just reposted me saying "our Country" MOST PEOPLE believes 'our Country' INCLUDES ALL CITIZENS.

//Kneeling began as a protest against police brutality.---NurseRobert

You are not stupid and neither am I. Police are PRESENT and escorts the Players unto the field.

If it is about them TURN AND FACE them and kneel during the Anthem

As Judge Judy's father said "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it is raining,"

StrongAxe, Burger King scenario is a made-up since you don't understand that people in the Stadium are TRAPPED and FORCED to watch a protest they didn't PAY to see.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/12/17


Nicole_Lacey:

Yes, I did see the follow-up, which mitigates it slightly, and I made a point to show a google search that would show both sides. However:

1) Both are open carry states. Same laws SHOULD apply.

2) Regardless of circumstances, non-white person WAS treated with a "guilty until proven innocent" attitude. Whether it's cops being paranoid, or anonymous caller being paranoid, both show a racist paranoid attitude. He was carrying NOT "brandishing".

3) He was VERY lucky to not get shot. Frequently, police who perceive a threat shoot first and ask questions later, even when victim shouts "I'm unarmed", or bystanders shout "He's deaf and can't hear your instructions", etc.
---StrongAxe on 10/12/17


There are no political solutions.
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StrongAxe: youtube black white ar15 oregon//

Thanks, guess what? News 4 on your side did a follow up. It's called black white ar15 oregon follow up. Please look at it.

The white man video it in 2015 Albany Oregon. The so called Black man is in Sun Valley Nevada 2013. The man states he is Filipino and Hispanic NOT Black.

That's why I can't TRUST the Left. They lie ALL THE TIME.

The man tried to trick everyone into thinking the scenarios occurred at the SAME TIME, CITY AND STATE. IT DIDN'T!

The 2013 incident the Police states he was BRANDISHING his gun (against the law).

Plus after 10 minutes he was LET GO and GIVEN BACK HIS AR15 GUN.


How CONVENIENTLY that was left out of the video?
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/12/17


You just made our point. They are protesting the Flag, our Country and her military.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/7/17

The presumption the flag represents only the military -
rather than all citizens - is ludicrous.

Kneeling began as a protest against police brutality. Trump and the right wing made it about disrespecting the military, completely ignoring the original issue.
---NurseRobert on 10/12/17


Nicole_Lacey:

Google: youtube black white ar15 oregon

Does your Burger King scenario actually happen, or is this a made-up example?

google: supreme court salute flag

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette

From Wikipedia:
The Court eloquently stated: "If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein." To underscore its decision, the Supreme Court announced it on Flag Day.
---StrongAxe on 10/11/17


StrongAxe, is the AR15 video about guns? I tried Youtube and internet. Can you be specific?

//this is not a South American dictatorship.//

I don't think you understand us?
People have been burning flags, tearing it up and other despicable acts for decades. This is different.

The problem is keeping us HOSTAGE.

You enter Burger King for a Whopper. I am the Cashier. After taking your order, money and BEFORE giving you your food during the wait I tell you how I believe Obama hates Black people

Did you entered Burger King for a Whopper, or a Whopper with politics?

//the Supreme Court ruled that such a job requirement is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.---StrongAxe

Name the case. You are mistaken.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/10/17


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//Kopernick -(also white if you follow the census which says that a child takes the race of his mother//

I don't know which census you are speaking about (Maybe Israel) because HERE we usually follow the father's race. As I did.
BTW, he considers himself Black as Obama.

//Blacks have as much right to kneel when the national anthem//

ONLY THE BLACK FANS, NOT THE PLAYERS!

//Read the history of the man that wrote the national anthem - educate yourself before you take an opinion.---Joyceon

Who cares. Their right doesn't SUPERSCEDE my right!

If they want to SELL tickets for people to watch them protest OKAY!

But don't tell me I paid to see football and then you FORCE me to watch you INSULT ME!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/10/17


Every knee shall bow...When Teebow, a white Christian bowed - nothing was said about kneeling. When Kopernick - a biracial Christian kneels (also white if you follow the census which says that a child takes the race of his mother - Obama is also white by those standards), it is considered disrespectful to the flag. Opinions are like noses, we all have one. Blacks have as much right to kneel when the national anthem is played as whites have the same right to stand. The Black soldiers that have died to protect this country are no less dead than the white ones that have died. Read the history of the man that wrote the national anthem - educate yourself before you take an opinion.
---Joyce on 10/10/17


Nicole_Lacey:

Gonzales said Trump had a right to question Curiel's impartiality. ANYONE has that right and can file a motion about it. He did NOT say Trump's accusation had merit and Curiel WAS actually biased.

That a judge hates rapists has nothing to do with whether the accused is guilty of being one. NOBODY's life is 100% fair. I'm sure EVERY judge has been cut off in traffic at some point. Does that mean NOBODY is fit to judge traffic cases? You give judges too little credit, as does Trump.

To force recusal, defendant must show DEMONSTRABLE bias, not just "he always rules against me so he must be biased" as Trump claimed. Sometimes that happens because the law always says you're wrong.
---StrongAxe on 10/8/17


Nicole_Lacey:

AGAIN, false equivalence. Kneeling is to protest country where racism is institutionalised in government agencies (e.g. police). Did you even watch that AR15 video I mentioned? That was in the U.S., not Canada.

My point was that this is not a South American dictatorship. Americans pay allegience to the REPUBLIC, not the MILITARY. So if they take issue with the flag, it is about their government, and NOT their military.

It is part of their JOB in the NFL to stand during the anthem.

Again, the Supreme Court ruled that such a job requirement is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
---StrongAxe on 10/9/17


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StrongAxe: If I hate Georgia I wouldn't protest the Alabama flag.

//If a McDonalds hangs a U.S. flag on their store, will you say the NFL is protesting hamburgers?//

Because the NFL isn't knelling in McDonalds or when the golden arches is shown.

You and the NFL's problem is that people are NOT stupid.

//One pledges allegiance to "the flag and the republic for which it stands", NOT "the military for which it stands". Learn the difference.//

Who is talking about saying the pledge of allegiance?

It is part of their JOB in the NFL to stand during the anthem.

//I said a country THAT FOSTERS a spirit of racism.//

You must be talking about Canada.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/8/17


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: And the Alabama flag doesn't belong to the Alabama National Guard?

No, it belongs to the STATE OF ALABAMA. Other entities in Alabama may also use it, but they don't own it.

If a McDonalds hangs a U.S. flag on their store, will you say the NFL is protesting hamburgers? Because that makes just as much sense as what you just said.

The U.S. armed forces are an arm of the state, but they are not the state. One pledges allegiance to "the flag and the republic for which it stands", NOT "the military for which it stands". Learn the difference.

I said a country THAT FOSTERS a spirit of racism. I didn't say Trump STARTED it, but he's certainly PERPETUATING it.
---StrongAxe on 10/8/17


StrongAxe: Trump himself demanded a judge who was trying a lawsuit against him recuse himself just because he was Mexican. (Conflict of interest claims were specious//

Not according the a past Attorney General. ***Yet the Mexican-American Alberto Gonzales says Trump's criticism of 'Mexican Judge is fair. by Alberto Luperton

I believe he knows the law better.

//a rapist can't demand a female judge recuse herself because she's a woman.//

No, but if she was raped or accused someone was raping her he could have her recuse.

//A drunk can't demand a judge recuse from a DUI because he owns a car,

But if his family member has been killed by a drunk driver the judge would have to recuse himself or herself.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/8/17


StrongAxe: The flag is NOT THE MILITARY.//

And the Alabama flag doesn't belong to the Alabama National Guard?

The Military doesn't just defend 25 States. It defends all of USA. What other symbol do you think represents the USA? Only the Flag.

How come the Iranians knows this but you don't?

You said they are protesting police brutality. Now it's the whole Government?

As I said, whole Government's Flag is the American Flag!

BTW, they started complaining in 2016 after 8 years of a Black President and 2 Black Attorney Generals.

Kaepernick STARTED it all and said HIMSELF it was because of police brutality due to racial inequality. Wikipedia even quotes him.

Trump WASN'T President in 2016!
---Nicole_Laceye on 10/8/17


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Haz27:

Just mindless parroting "majority of scientists reject IPP doomsday claims of MAN MADE global warming" will never make it true.


Nicole_Lacey:

You just made our point. They are protesting the Flag, our Country and her military.

No. The flag is NOT THE MILITARY. They are protesting the RACIST ATTITUDE that is still allowed to exist here, even at the highest level of government. E.g. Trump himself demanded a judge who was trying a lawsuit against him recuse himself just because he was Mexican. (Conflict of interest claims were specious - a rapist can't demand a female judge recuse herself because she's a woman. A drunk can't demand a judge recuse from a DUI because he owns a car, etc.)
---StrongAxe on 10/8/17


AXE. The majority of scientists reject IPCC doomsday claims of MAN MADE global warming. Sorry to burst your bubble, but just mindlessly parroting the 97% con will never make it true

As for actual climate change (which you seem to be trying to muddy the waters about), everybody believes natural climate change has occurred since Earth's creation.

The dispute has always been about the allegation (95% certainty according to IPCC, etc) that humanity causes supposed "global warming/climate change".

It's about time you accept the truth, like geophysicist & green guru & former global warming doomsayer James Lovelock did, who now rejects the predictions of IPCC & similar groups as nothing more than guesses.
---Haz27 on 10/7/17


StrongAxe: That's a ridiculous analogy.//

Because the protest are ridiculous. They are embarrassing themselves.

Now they are claiming some are PRAYING. What? Tebow wasn't allowed. Oh, I forgot he is White.

Okay the Players are MAD at Police not military. But they choose NOT to show their protest to the Cops just to a flag.

//The flag is not the military. It represents the COUNTRY, and the whole country still tolerates and sometimes encourages racist attitudes (e.g.KKK, police often assuming whites are innocent while..)//

You just made our point. They are protesting the Flag, our Country and her military.

//I asked HIM. Why don't we let HIM answer the question?---StrongAxe

Sorry I couldn't resist.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/7/17


Nicole_Lacey:

If you are mad at your wife why I hit her best friend?
The military has NOT been accused of killing Black Men.


That's a ridiculous analogy. Players aren't protesting police by kneeling to the military. The flag is not the military. It represents the COUNTRY, and the whole country still tolerates and sometimes encourages racist attitudes (e.g. KKK, police often assuming whites are innocent while blacks are guilty, etc.) Youtube "black white AR15".

YouTube "police shooting" for plenty of evidence. Do I really need to tell you this?

Maybe because he didn't want to be a Hillaryboy

I asked HIM. Why don't we let HIM answer the question?
---StrongAxe on 10/7/17


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StrongAxe, you know there are Police Officers who escort the football players to the field?

Why not FACE them while knelling on the field to protest instead of the flag?

That's what Obamaboy is talking about.

If you are mad at your wife why I hit her best friend?

The military has NOT been accused of killing Black Men.

//There are hundreds of news stories of that happening, and dozens of photos and videos on the internet where you can see it live for yourself. How much evidence do you need?//

As news stories of UFOs. I still want REAL evidence of their existence.

//I'm very curious why you picked then name "ObamasBoy",---StrongAxe

Maybe because he didn't want to be a Hillaryboy
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/7/17


ObamasBoy:

You wrote: Christians don't purpetuate lies by protesting non-existent problems.

Police gunning down innocent unarmed civilians is NOT a non-existent problem. There are hundreds of news stories of that happening, and dozens of photos and videos on the internet where you can see it live for yourself. How much evidence do you need?

I'm very curious why you picked then name "ObamasBoy", since your talking points are very much those one would expect from a Trump supporter, and not an Obama supporter.
---StrongAxe on 10/6/17


//Google Catholic paganism photos!//

What, are we in kindergarten?

I did anyway.

Pictures of Popes are not paganism.

If they are then all pictures of you, Your wife and children are paganism.

Ridiculous.

Egyptian pictures and art are not Catholic.

Plus you didn't answer Cluny's second question about Jesus Christ and the Pharisees.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/6/17


Google Catholic paganism photos!
---Rob on 10/6/17


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\\//yet they are full of paganism, idolatry, and heresy. They even do the things Christ Himself rebuked the Pharisees for doing!!!---Rob on 9/26/17\\

Please be specific about the paganism in the Catholic Church.

And what do they do that Christ rebuked the pharisees for doing?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/6/17


"The idea was not to stick it to cops. But to protest police brutality.

Which as Christians who love others we are supposed to oppose."


Christians don't purpetuate lies by protesting non-existent problems.
---ObamasBoy on 10/6/17


Samuel: The idea was not to stick it to the cops. But to protest Police brutality.//

Why connect the flag to police brutality?

Are they claiming most cops are not Americans, only the cops who brutalize Black people are Americans?

The cops have a flag specifically unique to them. Protest that flag. Why use an American flag?

That's like being mad at the State of Alabama, but instead of burning an Alabama flag you burn the American flag.

Then you claim you are not mad at all the States of America just Alabama.

//To boo and cuss people out is disrespectful.//

If you slap me and tell me you are only slapping me because my sister slapped you, don't get MAD if I slap you back.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/5/17


Rob: Didn't someone say the Catholic Church is the one true Church,//

Yep, but you didn't FINISH the sentence.

The Catholic is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic.

Also known as the 4 Marks of the Church.

//yet they are full of paganism, idolatry, and heresy. They even do the things Christ Himself rebuked the Pharisees for doing!!!---Rob on 9/26/17

No, you must be thinking about the American Catholic Church which ISN'T the Catholic Church.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/5/17


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Didn't someone say the Catholic Church is the one true Church, yet they are full of paganism, idolatry, and heresy. They even do the things Christ Himself rebuked the Pharisees for doing!!!
---Rob on 9/26/17


In case no one noticed, nothing happened yesterday on 23 Sept.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/24/17


All human Date Prophets on earth are liars because the Bible says no one knows that time not even the Angels. Why do all those think they are smarter than God?
---Darlene1 on 9/24/17


And now it's September 24, and Nibiru has failed to appear yet again, and yet another set of date setters has been proven false.
---StrongAxe on 9/24/17


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Nicole_Lacey:

Yes, and some of these are the same people. They latch onto the "sun will be dark and the moon will be as blood" prophecies, forgetting that those describe EVERY solar and lunar eclipse, both of which occur approximately twice a year. They then tie those to the New Year (Rosh Hashanah) in the Jewish Calendar, assuming that major events on God's calendar will necessarily coincide - which is Sept 20-22 this year, and roughly at a similar time every year.

Pastor Ricardo Salazar said a large ice rock would kill millions on May 16 2016.

Reverend Efrain Rodrguez said an asteroid would hit near Puerto Rico "soon" after 2010, killing millions.
---StrongAxe on 9/20/17


As Cluny pointed out, only those who believe in the pre-trib rapture worry about these prognosticators. And as StrongAxe pointed out, there are a lot of events which must take place before Christs return.

Funny thing...all the folks I know, who believe in a Pre-trib rapture, seem to fear rather than rejoice about that day.
---David on 9/20/17


Didn't some Wackos predicted the world would end Monday Aug 21th because of the total eclipse?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/18/17


Many signs precede the end. The Beast will appear and bring 3.5 year peace for. This implies war first. War so bad it would destroy all life unless shortened. Hasn't happened. NOBODY could buy or sell without his mark. Nowhere near happening either. Christian numerologists setting dates have been predicting the End in Septembers of year after year.

Yesterday I saw Robert Breaker video saying something will happen on Sept. 23. He also made one about Sept. 23 2015. Harold Camping twice 6 years ago. All these "boys who cry Wolf" do is constantly disappoint people and make them skeptical, so when the end DOES come, they will ignore the signs and be caught unaware.

Google: failed apocalyptic predictions
---StrongAxe on 9/18/17


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What about all those people on Daystar and TBN who said Christ would return in September 2015???
---Rob on 9/18/17


This simply shows the lengths some people are willing to go for notoriety and publicity. The sad part of this is the fact that the media so willingly exploits it & plays on the fears of the unlearned or misinformed concerning this. The events surrounding the coming of Jesus and the end of this age are written, and are discerned by those who are sealed mentally by the Word & Spirit of God. Free your mind of the frivolous distractions & concerns of the world.
---josef on 9/18/17


Is this what the Worldly Denominational Church of Steveng saying these days?

Seriously, if anyone says the end of the world or Rapture or Second Coming will take place on a certain date, that's a good sign it won't.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/17/17


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