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Why is it people love hearing the vain philosophy of men along with the lies of Satan, but they hate to hear the TRUTH OF GOD?

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Kathr: we caused the dust bowl by DIGGING UP AND PLOWING THE PRAIRIE LAND.//



Another false notion. Scientists had to figure out how to FARM the land DURING A DROUGHT.

They needed WATER for the land to grow crops


//It is to date the WORST MAN MADE environmental disaster ever. It even affected Europe.//

So it was even WORST than the REAL man made environmental disaster caused in Japan in 1945?

You know the ATOMIC BOMBS?

//please research before popping off with ignorant comments.//

Sorry if I brusted you god bubble.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/7/17


Climate change is important, PRECISELY because it affects agriculture and economics. If temperature goes up, many crops become unsustainable, causing mass starvation and death. This also happens during nuclear winter.

Yes, asteroids could be dangerous. Our administration is defunding programs that detects them.

If we can cause dust bowls and nuclear winters, we CAN affect climate.

Gen. 11:6 says Nimrod would have succeeded. Biblical version of your New York analogy: Your kids join a bad gang. God lets them, then saves two kids who are least corrupt and destroys city with a tsunami.

Haz27: The 97% who believe man has caused climate change must necessarily also believe climate change exists.
---StrongAxe on 10/7/17

Nicole, your limited words from Wikipedia was disingenuous. That is what disingenuous means....not telling the WHOLE TRUTH, and twisting facts or purposely omitting facts in order to present your view.

Trump said Cat 5 hit PR. He was a 4. Yet you go off on Strongaxe for saying food stamps, when many articles used the word FOODSTAMPS for exactly what it is...a card now a cc. Your disingenuous comment made people think they were actually paper stamps ...ONLY YOU are dumb enough to say that.

Trump did deny PR from using the FS card for hot food. TX and Fl he waved so that they could.

Your are beginning to look more and more like an Internet TROLL than a Christian discussing issues.
---kathr4453 on 10/7/17

The market-driven agricultural practices of U.S. farmers plowing the virgin topsoil of the Great Plains and monoculture farming led to one of the most disastrous ecological events in the nations history. Between 1930 and 1940, drought conditions and depleted farmland caused severe dust storms, some reaching 10,000 feet in the sky and called Black Blizzards. 2.5 million people were displaced and the catastrophe compounded the Great Depression.

The nuclear power plants in Japan KILLING Life in the Ocean, Dumping chemicals in lakes and oceans around the world, the BP Gulf Oil disaster, also killing life.

We get 70+ percent of our oxygen from the ocean. IF we are killing off ANY percent of oxygen, we ARE raising CO2.
---kathr4453 on 10/7/17

Nicole, we caused the dust bowl by DIGGING UP AND PLOWING THE PRAIRIE LAND.


The article you posted does not negate that fact.

Your comment just showed you know nothing about it. It is to date the WORST MAN MADE environmental disaster ever. It even affected Europe.

Nicole, please research before popping off with ignorant comments.
---kathr4453 on 10/7/17

StrongAxe: It's easy to disprove somebody's words when you yourself put those words in his mouth.//

You are so rich. You accuse me of putting words in your mouth?

Me: No lasting effect has occurred from that eruption

You: Nuclear winter wouldn't last long either, but for the few years it DID last, the effect on world economics would be devastating.--StrongAxe

We were NOT talking about economics and you know it.

A large asteroid hitting the Earth will cause the same world economics devastation.

Now Scientists can protect the Earth by inventing an instrument to blast an asteroid before it hits the Earth.

Several are circling the earth right now.

Stop wasting time on things we cannot control.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/7/17

Kathr: WE CAUSED THE DUST BOWL. A horrible environmental issue//

Do you see what I mean?

Now man is responsible if it rains or not. Maybe we should have performed raindances.

****TheDust Bowl, also known as theDirty Thirties, was a period of severedust stormsthat greatly damaged the ecology andagricultureof the American and Canadianprairiesduring the 1930s, SEVEREDROUGHT and a failure to applydryland farmingmethods to prevent wind erosion (theAeolian processes) caused the phenomenon. The drought came in three waves, 1934, 1936, and 19391940, but some regions of the high plains experienced DROUGHT conditions for as many as eight years.-- Wikipedia

BTW, it got better when it started RAINING. That's God's domain not man.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/7/17

It is very arrogant to believe that man CAN affect climate change as if we were gods.////

WE CAUSED THE DUST BOWL. A horrible environmental issue that did affect the climate and the very air people breathed. WE DID kill Lake Erie, and it took environmental scientists 50+ years to bring it back to life. Were we gods who caused this? Absolutely not...just ignorant humans that's all, however our ignorance did a lot of damage, and caused loss of life to humans as well. Both needed correction, and years to correct. I don't recall God just sticking His finger in Lake Erie, or healing the mess made in the dust bowl in a snap and twinkling of the eye. God showed man how it could be fixed....and it took years to fix.
---kathr4453 on 10/6/17

AXE. It seems you also contradict the IPCC, etc, considering you said "our actions don't necessarily EFFECT climate change, they can AFFECT it"

The fact you have either missed or avoided is the 97% consensus con is about the MAN MADE cause, resulting in the EFFECT of global warming.

The 5th IPCC report states with 95% confidence that human activity is the cause that results in the EFFECT of global warming.

Considering most scientists reject the IPCC's 95% certainty of man made global warming, and also how many of them have criticized the corrupting influence that the $4 billion per day global warming industry has on it's supporting scientists, it's obvious the 97% consensus is a con.
---Haz27 on 10/7/17

Really? So you believe if God didn't stop them they were going to build the Tower up to heaven?

StrongAxe, God is a LOVING FATHER who doesn't want his children to hurt themselves.

If you lived in New York and your knucklehead 10 yr old kid and his friend decided they were going to use their bikes to ride all the way to California would you sit back and watch?
Or take his bike away and tell him he cannot be friends with the other kid.

Do you do this because you believe he would ACTUALLY make it to California? No, because you KNOW they will get HURT TRYING to get to California.

Genesis 11:6b..and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have IMAGINED to do.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/7/17


It's easy to disprove somebody's words when you yourself put those words in his mouth. I never we alone created the problem, just that we have the power to try to fix it. With nukes, we also have the power to damage it beyond all reason.

Why do you think God sent the curse of babel to Nimrod? Because he was WORRIED Nimrod might succeed. If he wasn't worried, all he had to do was sit back, open a box of popcorn, and wait for Nimrod to fail, but he didn't do that.

No lasting effect has occurred from that eruption.

Nuclear winter wouldn't last long either, but for the few years it DID last, the effect on world economics would be devastating.
---StrongAxe on 10/6/17

StrongAxe: I mentioned climate change, NOT man-made climate change, so your accusation of arrogance is presumptuous.//

Everyone knows you all are blaming men for all these hurricanes hitting us.

It is very arrogant to believe that man CAN affect climate change as if we were gods.

//It has been calculated that ash from a large-scale nuclear war would alter the earth's albedo,.//

As the calculation that the 2009 oil spill was going to affect the ocean for decades. Five years later there's no EVIDENCE of any oil spills. The ocean cleaned it up by itself as God created it.

//This effect has already been observed with volcanic eruptions like Mt. St. Helens.//

No lasting effect has occurred from that eruption.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/6/17


I pointed to a google search that leads directly to a NASA article that directly quotes the positions of 18 organizations that support climate change. Those quotes are official statements made by scientists, not gossip tweeted by cleaning ladies from their offices at 4AM.

The bottom of the page cites references by Cook, Anderegg, Doran, Zimmerman, Oreskes, and over a dozen links. Is that not enough?
---StrongAxe on 10/6/17


I mentioned climate change, NOT man-made climate change, so your accusation of arrogance is presumptuous.

It has been calculated that ash from a large-scale nuclear war would alter the earth's albedo, causing massive global cooling, so we COULD drasticly affect the earth's climate, but hopefully that will never happen. This effect has already been observed with volcanic eruptions like Mt. St. Helens.

Even though our actions don't necessarily EFFECT climate change, they can AFFECT it. We can do what we can to lessen the effects. If somebody pushes your car down a steep hill, hitting the brakes won't stop you, but it will lessen the damage when you hit bottom.
---StrongAxe on 10/6/17

StrongAxe: What does 2+2=4 have to do with climate change?//

It's a demonstration on how you use facts to come up with an answer to a problem.

Not making stuff up in the air without the facts as climate change.

You can cite one or two of the scientists and their publish work.

Not having space to cite 200 scientist doesn't excuse you from citing one of them.

//Maybe "97>3" works?//

Yes it does thank you. That and symbol totally confuse me.

I'm still waiting for the names of the islands that mysteriously disappeared, or was that Samuel that said that one?

It doesn't matter since he agrees with you help them out with the names.
Tell me the names of the islands.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/6/17


And a fifth grader knows 97 is more than 3. What does 2+2=4 have to do with climate change? The vast majority of scientists explain why they believe climate change is real. I don't have space to cite them all here. THEY can explain it in a scientific way to show their answer is fact.

Some characters are treated specially in HTML (e.g. less than and greater than signs are used for tags, like italics), so if you want to include them without special meanings, you must escape them. Greater than should be "ampersand g t semicolon". I forgot this site ruthlessly turns semicolons into commas, so it showed "ampersand g t comma" instead. Maybe "97>3" works?
---StrongAxe on 10/6/17

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StrongAxe & Samuel, even if all of your claims we're completely accurate, that would only prove that climate change occurs from time to time. That in no way proves that it is caused by human activity. Since durastic global climate change has occurred since the Earth's supposed origins, long before human beings are supposed to have existed, the logical conclusion is that clinate occurs independently of human activity. And it's bith asinine and arrogant to assume that humans could have any significant effect on such a great force of nature.
---ObamasBoy on 10/6/17

StrongAxe: I can also cite mathematics. 97 & gt,3.//

No it isn't. I don't know what you are talking about?

Everyone can count up to 4.

A Kindergartener even knows that 2+2 equals 4 and not 5.

If you are able to explain your calculation step by step in a scientific way to show your answer I can say it is fact.

But you putting letters and numbers together without any rhyme or reason.

Maybe Jerry can explain what you wrote.

Your 97 & gt,3 I believe is made up.

'gt' is a symbol used in nursing used to calculate dosages. Now it has changed.

Tell me what 'gt' means? And what you are trying to answer?

It doesn't even seem to be 'problem' with an 'answer'.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/6/17

Islands are sinking? Lol. Okay.

I remember when Democratic Congressman Hank Johnson said in a congressional hearing that he feared stationing 8,000 Marines on Guam would cause the Island to become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.

These are the people telling you Islands are sinking into the ocean.
---ObamasBoy on 10/6/17

//Haz Islands are disappearing because the ocean level is rising//

Please, please name the Islands that have disappeared. I have heard many people claim Islands are sinking, but they won't give names. Why?

Please just cite the Island's names.

//Parts of Louisiana had to be abandoned due to rising water.//

Yes it's called a flood.

People were able to return to the flooded areas. Trump went to the flooded area last summer. They are not flooded anymore.

//We will run out of cheap oil---Samuelbb7

We have enough oil/fuel under USA soil to supply the whole world for the next 300 years.

Not allowing us to tap the oil is the reason gas is high.
The law of supply and demand.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/5/17

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Any claim that defies logic and sound reason should be automatically suspect and reviewed.

Even according scientists worst estimates, human activity, including cars, industry, etc, produces 24 billion tons of CO2 in one year. That's less than 1% of the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere at any given day. In short, the entire world's humans can't even produce 1% of any given day's CO2 levels in an entire year! And because plants actually breathe CO2 and convert it into oxygen, the overall level of CO2 in the atmosphere remains unchanged year after year. It's absolutely asinine to suggest that human activity could have any significant effect on our vast planet's environmental quality.
---ObamasBoy on 10/5/17

Sammuel & AXE. We see same in Pacific islands. But fact is some islands grow but others sink. Clearly not global warming.

Andrew Shepherd, director of Centre for Polar Observation & Modelling urged caution in interpreting results of satellite sea level readings.

He said, "even with decades of measurements, it is hard to be sure whether there has been a steady acceleration in the rate of global sea level rise during the satellite era because the change is SO SMALL".

Sea levels in Newlyn UK rose faster at beginning of last century BEFORE man-made global warming than recently. And only half its average 1.7mm per year rise is due to sea levels rise the other half is due to land in that part of UK is sinking.
---Haz27 on 10/5/17


You wrote: Because Facts are Objective NOT Subjective.

God can perceive facts objectively. We, unfortunately, cannot.

Your whole mathematical 2+2=4 argument is specious. I can also cite mathematics. 97 & gt,3.

Once again, you are all for Trump and his administration and their actions and their policies when they suits you, but when its own agency cites facts that you don't like, now you think they're wrong.

But ignore the experts. Instead, look at the people who are losing their land due to rising sea levels due to melting icecaps. Or, as Jesus said, some people are so convinced of their position, they wouldn't budge even if someone were to rise from the dead.
---StrongAxe on 10/5/17

Haz Islands are disappearing because the ocean level is rising. Parts of Louisiana had to be abandoned due to rising water. The Ice caps are smaller and so are glaciers.

These are facts.

We will run out of cheap oil and someday it will be $15 a gallon. I remember when it was 30 cents.

My problem is some who want to stop Global warming go overboard. Just like some who deny it.

Whatever the reasons. We need to plan ahead instead of react after the disaster.

We need to be praying and helping people. Spreading the Gospel. Not trying to help the rich get richer.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/5/17

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//So 2 people who disagree are more right than 18 organizations? Why?---StrongAxe

Because Facts are Objective NOT Subjective.

Haz27 and I claim 2+2=4 it because we can count. But within the last 30 years a new group of Mathematicians claim 2+2=5. Next the White House decides to AGREE with these Idiots.
Obama states "It is true! 2+2 is 5 and anyone who denies it is a Math Denial! 97% of Mathematicians agree and can see that 2+2 equals 5."

So Haz27 and I to CHANGE our Math counting abilities just because the Government has it on the White House Website and NASA's website?

NO! We call it stupid, dumb and silly even if they can convince 200 million Americans.

2+2=4 yesterday, today and tomorrow.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/5/17

Most of those scientists that agree with man-made climate change have no actual experience on the subject or have even studied the data. They are simply repeating what they have heard just because so many other scientists believe it, it must be true. Not realizing that they are all just repeating each other with no one actually having any fact based evidence. Anyone with an interest in science can call themselves a scientist.

Interestingly, the evidence that we do have, even that which had been observed by climate change believers, disproves the theory of man-made climate change. Yet they still conclude that climate change must be real, despite their own contradictory data, simply because so many people think it is.
---ObamasBoy on 10/5/17

AXE. Consider also:
Dr. Duane Thresher, a climate scientist with a PhD from Columbia University and NASA GISS, who has pointed to a PUBLICATION & FUNDING BIAS as a key to understanding how scientific consensus CAN BE MANIPULATED.

When BO was in office he channeled billions into studies, etc that supported global warming claims, while SILENCING CONTRARY OPINIONS.

Dr. William Happer, professor emeritus of physics and member of National Academy of Sciences said Government actions have CORRUPTED science, which has been flooded by money to produce politically correct results...
It is time for governments to finally admit the truth about global warming. Warming is not the problem. Government action is the problem
---Haz27 on 10/5/17


I gave the official NASA web site that lists over 18 other reputable scientific sites that all agree about climate change, yet you still insist that they are all wrong. Obviously nothing will shake the hold that the Right's fossil-fuel-congolmerate-worshipping religion has on you. (Does that argument sound familiar?)

But melting south polar icecaps, melting of Greenland icecaps, two "500-year" hurricanes in a one week period won't convince you either.
---StrongAxe on 10/5/17

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AXE. So I gave the historical details of how the 97% con was fabricated by John Cook from University of Queensland in Australia, I gave names of various scientists who denounce the global warming fabrications from the IPCC and NASA, I even gave the findings of the survey taken by PBL (the Netherlands environmental assessment agency) that found only 43% of climate scientists support the IPCC claims of man made global warming, and yet you still insist there is a 97% consensus for man made global warming.

Obviously nothing will shake the hold that the Left's PC global warming religion has on you.

---Haz27 on 10/4/17


I used "nonsense" in quotes, because you and Haz27 dismiss it as nonsense.

Yesterday I said:
Google climate change 97
The first hit is Nasa's own "Scientific consensus: Earth's climate is warming", ...

That site cites statements on climate change from 18 scientific associations: American scientific societies, science academies, U.S. government agencies, intergovernmental bodies, and worldwide scientific organizations.

Do you mean to tell me that you disbelieve ALL of those, but prefer to take the word of 3% who disagree? If so, why?


So 2 people who disagree are more right than 18 organizations? Why?
---StrongAxe on 10/4/17

StrongAxe, everyone or Agency can have some truth to it.

But if Government tells you money grows on trees is it true just because it came from Government? Use common sense and VERIFY the info.

I am pretty sure you verify everything Trump says because you don't care that he is POTUS.

Why would you believe nonsense just because a man with a science degree told you something?

A majority of Scientists believed the earth was flat several centuries ago.

The majority were wrong.

Why can't you see the nonsense?

The earth's core temperature is cooler than it was years ago. That's why they changed the name from Climate Warming to Climate Change.

That is ridiculous because Climate ALWAYS Changes.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/4/17

StrongAxe: If he did, why does HIS own NASA's web site STILL cite that "nonsense" 9 months later?//

Please CITE the "nonsense" material on the NASA's web site entered within the 9 months and STILL up today.

I am just proving that the info on the White house website was nonsense to Trump that he couldn't wait for the next day to remove it.

He didn't care that about the parties, ballroom dances or the official penning signing ceremonies.

Removing climate change info could have waited until Jan 21st.

Everyone would have understood.

But noooooooooooo, it irritated him so much he ordered the removal within hours of being POTUS.

I don't blame him.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/4/17

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If he did, why does HIS own NASA's web site STILL cite that "nonsense" 9 months later?


Your question is just as disingenuous as have you stopped beating your wife?. It assumes so much many falsehoods that it's laughable.

"Silence" is due to this site's short message limits, and forbidding multiple sequential messages. I can only answer so much at a time.

YOU say "con" and "propaganda", but nobody has yet proved it, just claim it's false. Again, who runs NASA? Trump, NOT Obama.

Nothing "subtle" about my believing truth over your delusions.

"misplaced"? When will YOU stop believing the RIGHT'S propaganda?
---StrongAxe on 10/4/17

AXE. Is your silence on the Left's con about 97% consensus a subtle acknowledgement that you now realize that maybe you had misplaced trust in the Left's propaganda?
---Haz27 on 10/4/17

StrongAxe: So, who is actually running the government? Make your mind. Whoever gets the credit also gets the blame and vice versa.//

No the credit bad or good goes to the one creating the credit!

Trump STOPPED the climate change nonsense on DAY ONE!

***When Trump took office today (Jan. 20), the White House's website,, underwent a major makeover, in which the page on climate change action that was set up by Barack Obama's administration (archived here) now reads, "The requested page "/energy/climate-change" could not be found." [The Year in Climate Change: 2016's Most Depressing Stories]....----'Did Trump dump climate change? White House website scrubbed clean' by Laura Geggel Livescience
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/3/17


You wrote: Why would you believe ANYTHING on the government's website? Are you seriously THAT ignorant?

OK, then, you tell us - who would YOU have us believe, and why? How can we know your sources are reliable?
---StrongAxe on 10/4/17

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You wrote: Of course. Obama's Government. It's still fake. Under Obama NASA went down!

What department are NASA and CDC part of? The executive. Who runs the executive and has for the past 9 months? Trump. Yet, if anything good is happening in the government, it's always because Trump is running it, but if anything bad is happening in the government, it's always leftovers from Obama.

So, who is ACTUALLY running the government? Make your minds! Whoever gets the credit also gets the blame, and vice versa.
---StrongAxe on 10/3/17

Why would you believe ANYTHING on the government's website? Are you seriously THAT ignorant?
---ObamasBoy on 10/3/17

//I am not citing media, fake or otherwise, but the government's own site.--StrongAxe

Of course. Obama's Government. It's still fake. Under Obama NASA went down!

Just because it's on the Government website we have to believe it? What happen to FACTS?

The SAME Government website ALSO SAID "If you want to keep your doctor you can keep your doctor." LIE! I lost 2 doctors because of OBAMACARE!

"If you want to keep your health insurance you can keep your health insurance." LIE!

Millions LOST their health insurance because of OBAMACARE!

The Government couldn't measure the impact of healthcare, but you want us to believe they are right on climate change?

Look at the CDC. A Hot Mess!
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/3/17

Again, it's foolish to get your information about science from group of people who think gender "is an artificial man-made construct that exists only in the mind", or that there are dozens of genders, or that a person can change their gender from one moment to the next by merely thinking that they are the opposite gender.

8 year olds know the biological difference between boys and girls. If you dont recognize the obvious biological differences between boys and girls, or you are not sure which one you are, or you don't think that there's any concrete difference, then you barely have the mental capacity to swallow your own saliva, let alone determine for the entire science community whether climate change is man-made or not.
---ObamasBoy on 10/3/17

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AXE. Here's several apostates from global warming cult.

Geophysicist & Green Guru James Lovelock, a former global warming doomsayer, criticized global warming claims by the U.N climate panel, etc.
He said "They just guess. And a whole group of them meet together and encourage each others guesses."

Judith Curry, chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology, said she was "duped into supporting the IPCC" on climate change and added If the IPCC is dogma, then count me in as a heretic.

And don't forget the co founder of Greenpeace, ecologist Patrick Moore, who said there is no scientific proof for manmade global warming
---Haz27 on 10/3/17

AXE. As so many scientists disagree with the 97% consensus con, then it's clear your blind trust in groups like NASA, etc, is based solely on your subjective political loyalty. The fact that you conveniently ignored my post explaining how the 97% consensus con first came about only shows you have no interest in truth when in contradicts your Leftist world view.

So called "scientists" who believe in unscientific doctrines such as man made global warming, Darwinian evolution, abiogenesis, gender fluidity, etc, may dominate Marxist universities, NASA, CSIRO, etc, but to mindlessly place your trust in them is no different than mindlessly trusting cult leaders.
---Haz27 on 10/3/17

StrongAxe: FYI, German professor Dr. Friedrich Karl Ewert, a retired geologist and data computation expert, accused NASA of having tampered with the raw data so extensively that it had effectively "invented" global warming.

Prof Ewart painstakingly examined and tabulated all NASA temperature data series, taken from 1153 stations and going back to 1881. His conclusion: if you look at the raw data, as opposed to NASAs revisions, you'll find that since 1940 the planet has been cooling, not warming.

And former NASA scientist Prof Woodcock described global warming as "nonsense", dismissing the theory of man-made climate change as an "unsubstantiated hypothesis".

---Haz27 on 10/3/17


Again, why would NASA, an agency of a REPUBLICAN government, agree with the 97%? Obama isn't president anymore.


It is oh so convenient to claim that witnesses who agree with you are legitimate, while those who disagree with you are not. What OBJECTIVE evidence can you cite that proves this?

Who claims that a man can have a baby? Please cite at least one. I have never heard of any.

Also, 97% of "scientists" say God is fake. Do you agree with them too?

Scientists don't claim they can PROVE God doesn't exist - at best they say nobody can prove that he does.
---StrongAxe on 10/2/17

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Axe, are these the same 97% of self-proclaimed scientist that think gender doesn't exist?

I find it a little asinine for a group of people who think a man can have a baby to be telling anyone anything about science.

Also, 97% of "scientists" say God is fake. Do you agree with them too?
---ObamasBoy on 10/2/17

What StrongAxe is failing to realize is that the 97% (which is a fake number, BTW) aren't actually witnesses at all. They are simply repeating each other. The 3% are the ones actually doing research and field work and using real life data. Not some hypothetical manipulated models.
---ObamasBoy on 10/2/17

AXE. The Leftist 97% consensus con came from John Cook of University of Queensland, Australia, in 2013.

Cook studied 11,994 science papers published between 1991 and 2011 that mentioned the search words "global warming" & "global climate change".

Cook found ONLY 32.6% of the papers endorsed the view of man-made global warming. But of that small group, 97% said that recent warming is mostly man-made.

And so, with sleight of hand obfuscation, the great 97% consensus was fabricated.

And it spread further once BO, the liar in chief, tweeted it on May 16, 2013. From there the Left's Fake News ran with it such that YOU believe it.
You should have taken the red pill AXE.
---Haz27 on 10/2/17


It's trivial. Google climate change 97

The first hit is Nasa's own "Scientific consensus: Earth's climate is warming", with a convincing graph at the top. NASA, an organ of U.S.A.'s thrice-Republican government. You seem to agree with the U.S. government when it suits your agenda, and disagree with it otherwise.

I am not citing media, fake or otherwise, but the government's own site. It doesn't cite media, but peer-reviewed scientific journals. The whole concept of peer review is like the Bible's policy of 2-3 witnesses. One voice can speak error, but when there are many, it's easy for those who speak the truth to refute the errors with facts. Why don't YOU open your eyes to common sense reason?
---StrongAxe on 10/2/17

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StrongAxe: if 97% of witnesses say one thing and 3% say another, one would normally go with the 97%.//

You have picked up the Fake Media's talking points and lies. Climate change is a CONTROL mechanism tool.

Cite the consensus of 97% Scientists disagreeing with 3% Scientists. You CAN'T because there isn't any data displaying that polling.

THE MEDIA MADE THOSE NUMBERS UP. Science isn't subjective.

Besides, Science is objective based on FACT not opinions.

You are so logical at times, but you seem to refuse to open your eyes to common sense reason.
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/1/17

little ax: Listen up!

97% is a LIE!

---Jerry6593 on 10/2/17

AXE. Considering your previous allegations against conservatives linking them to KKK, taking food & medicaid from hungry & sick, etc, you then get offended when I show it's the Left who are the true evil? LOL.

Your denialism will not change facts. Universities are controlled by Marxists renowned for their discrimination & persecution of anyone unwilling to submit to their PC tyranny.

A book written by CIA officer in 1940's titled "The Naked Communist" listed the goals of Communists, which included infiltrating & controlling the media, Hollywood, Universities, politics, etc, and using them to control society.

Again there's no 97%. It's simply another Hitlerite "Big Lie" from the Left.
---Haz27 on 10/2/17


Just WHO is it acknowledge by? What impartial and undisputed authorities can you cite that assert this?

Again, that someone is bullied does not imply he is right, just that his opinions are not popular.

Hitler was not my "lefty forefather". Both my parents spent most of the war in Hitler's camps, and my father almost died as a result. *I* don't oppose free speech. *I* don't oppose science, *I* don't oppose critical thinking. PLEASE stop using the flawed "Hitler was a leftist. You are a leftist. Hitler was evil. Therefore, you are evil" argument!

97% is a FEW?!? You forget about the petroleum industry gravy train that does everything in its power to stifle competition, like wind and solar.
---StrongAxe on 10/1/17

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AXE. It's acknowledged fact Universities (especially Humanities departments)are dominated by Marxists who loathe critical thinking & free speech (Berkely a notable example).

Right leaning & true "liberal" minded academics on campus are bullied & discriminated against where ever Marxists dominate. You need to wake up AXE to see it's you Lefties who oppose free speech, science, & critical thinking.

Your Socialist Lefty forefather, Hitler, used the "Big Lie" tactic to deceive the masses, and the man made global warming con is no different.

The few scientists who support global warming scam do so because they're on the gravy train of a $4 billion per day industry that's based on lies.
---Haz27 on 10/1/17


That right-leaning scientists sometimes face discriminiation from the left does not prove they are right. Perhaps academia doesn't want people confused by crackpot theories.

One could use the same argument to say heretics are unfairly persecuted by the church in not being offered positions of teaching and leadership. Yes, sometimes an entrenched orthodoxy wants to maintain its power, but most frequently (as in the New Testament), a healthy orthodoxy wants to prevent destructive teachings from infecting a healthy church.

When adjudicating a crime, if 97% of witnesses say one thing and 3% say another, one would normally go with the 97%. Why should science be the opposite?
---StrongAxe on 10/1/17

//.there are photos from last year of ice melting at the north pole in winter - something hitherto unheard of.--StrongAxe

The picture was staged. The it was a picture taken closer to South Africa.

Did you know that the climate change Scientists got stuck in ice from their MISCALCULATIONS of ice formation?

***A group of adventures, sailors, pilots and CLIMATE SCIENTISTS that recently stared a journey around the North Pole in an effort to show the lack of ice, has been blocked from further travels by ice....they are currently stuck Murmansk, Russia because there is too much ice blocking the North east passage the team said didn't exist in summer months, according to Real Climate Science.--By Craig Boudreau in Climate Depot
---Nicole_Lacey on 10/1/17


Al Gore is not a scientist, and it's true - the polar ice cap did NOT actually totally melt yet. However, there are photos from last year of ice melting at the north pole in winter - something hitherto unheard of. Even if it did not totally melt, it IS melting. Wake up and smell the palm trees.
---StrongAxe on 9/30/17

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AXE. The anti science Left conned you.

Facts: We see the likes of Prof Lomborg (former director of Denmark's Environmental Assessment Institute) being rejected a research position at Melbourne uni because Marxists there hate him as he's not PC enough on climate change.

A uni lecturer friend successfully sued a uni here due to bullying from Marxists who hated her because she taught critical thinking instead of the Marxist indoctrination they demanded she apply.

Prof Peterson in Canada suffers discrimination from anti science PC Leftists at uni because of his pro science stance.

Uni students also get penalized, etc, if they're not PC. The list just goes on.
AXE, step out of Left's echo chamber to see reality.
---Haz27 on 10/1/17

ax: "Many rural Americans have strong opinions on science"

What does a left-wing radical Canadian like you know about us rural Americans? We are the ones that put men on the moon. And yes, I am educated with a degree in physics and experience in the atmospheric phenomena claimed to produce global warming. Your education apparently was nothing but leftist indoctrination.

The truth, should you care to investigate, it is that the 97% of scientists ruse is a leftist fabrication, and the truth is that most scientists KNOW that global warming is pure B.S. Didn't you see the recent admission by GW types that their models have been proven wrong, and that ALL of their doomsday predictions have not come true.
---Jerry6593 on 10/1/17

Again, Haz27, do you really believe that 97% of world scientists are radical leftists lying through their teeth to push a false political agenda?

This might make one wonder why it is that so many educated people are on the left. One possibility (that you and others like you believe) is that universities brainwash people into leftist thinking. Another is that knowledge and education open people's minds into being able to think critically and objectively, and washes away right-wing biases caused by "my mind is made up - don't confuse me with the facts" kind of thinking.

Many rural Americans have strong opinions on science, but know nothing about it, and want to nuke Korea but can't even find it on a map.
---StrongAxe on 9/30/17

David, I understand.

StrongAxe, 97% Scientists are wrong and some are not Scientists. Climate ALWAYS changes. Their predication are always 60 to 70 years away. After we are all dead.

Al Gore who isn't a Scientist last predication DIDN'T HAPPEN.

As for the Cabinet position.
The VA has had many Secretaries who were not Physicians or nurses.

Our Education can not continue with the status quo.

The Unions have destroyed the car business in Detroit, Schools, VA hospital and many other places in the land.

Trump can help stop the madness in public schools and VA Hospital and HUD.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/30/17

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AXE. Your trust in your Leftist puppet masters confirms the claim by Russian KGB Communist defector (Yuri Bezmanov) that the Communist brainwashing is so effective that it's unlikely you could ever be red pilled back to reality.

I had shown you previously that your claim that 97% of scientists support the climate change view had been proven to be a propaganda lie.
I had also shown that climate assessment organizations like PBL had found that only 43% of climate scientists support the IPCC propaganda that mankind is most likely responsible for global warming.

AXE, the more you continue trusting the far Left's PC propaganda, the more you prove to us here why Christians should avoid the Left's Fake News media, etc. Thanks.
---Haz27 on 9/30/17


97% of scientists believe climate change is real. 3% beleve it is a lie. Which is true? 3% know what they are talking about, and 97% are incompetetent or taking bribes from somehow rich wacko environmentalists? Or 97% know what they are talking about, and 3% are incompetent and/or taking bribes from mega-rich oil companies? Occam's razor makes the choice obvious, yet Trump and his supporters (including ones here) belive most scientists are fake. He is wrong in this area, and in most others.

Betsy DeVos is in charge of public education, yet had no experience in that sector, because she hates public education. Trump's FDA pick has no science experience in fields he is REQUIRED BY LAW to have for that position. Etc.
---StrongAxe on 9/30/17

AXE. Even here in Australia I can see that Trump is anti FAKE science. We have some politicians here too that are anti FAKE science. Only the Left support fake science because it furthers their political agenda.

As for public education, colleges, universities, we have the same problem here in Australia. The PC Left dominate and undermine these institutions so that we too have seen a decline in educational standards.

AXE, it's your oppressive Leftist puppet masters throughout the West who hold such power that they stifle dissent and demand mindless submission to their PC tyranny. Remember its the Left who are the totalitarians.

---Haz27 on 9/30/17

StrongAxe, Trump is anti-FAKE science and FIRED FAKE Scientists in the EPA. Name a Cabinet Appointee hostile to REAL Science?

//His public education secretary hates public education.//

No she hates the CORRUPT Teacher Unions who refuse to clean house. They put Teachers over Students.

Ever watch 'Waiting for "Superman"'?

//Ignorance is bliss.//

Indeed! And the Teacher Unions are making sure children stay in their ignorant blissful state as ADULTS.

//America used to be a leader in education and the sciences,..this has no longer been true.--StrongAxe

Amen, so can we please CHANGE? Dept of Ed was developed under Jimmy Carter is a HUGE disaster

Doubling down on stupid is STUPID!
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/29/17

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...who in America teaching their children NOT to question religion, science or medicine?---Nicole_Lacey on 9/27/17

I didn't mean it's taught as curriculum. It's something we come to do naturally, when we see someone as a teacher. When we are children our parents are our teachers, and as they are our parents, we don't question what they teach us. And then when we go to school, we don't question the teachings, of those we call teacher.

Many folks, like when they were children, follow suit when they attend church. They look at their church teachers in the same way they looked at their school teachers, and like children, don't question the teachings. This is why Jesus told us what he did in (Matthew 23:8).
---David on 9/28/17


The current president is very anti-science and has been consistently appointing science-hostile people to science-related cabinet positions. His public education secretary hates public education. Many of his supporters actively believe college eduation is a bad thing. Ignorance is bliss.

America used to be a leader in education and the sciences, but for several decades, this has no longer been true. and given current trends, it will get worse long before it gets better.

Holding corrupt authorities accountable is the backbone of this nation. Remember the American Revolution? It is suppressed in dictatorships. Sadly, our current administration is pushing blind loyalty and stifling dissent.
---StrongAxe on 9/28/17

Some teachings, as it is written, are simply "Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, destitute of the truth." Taught by men who are carnally minded to those who are themselves carnally minded. Using eye service and sensually pleasing words to entice and seduce. Man pleasers indeed, who are not subject to the Father's truth, nor can they be. For the truth usually convicts, and is meant to bring a man to repentance by producing within him a godly sorrow. The relaying of truth must be with a singleness of heart, with respect and honor for Him. The world hates it because it is life changing and powerful, "sharper than any two edged sword", and cuts between that which is soulish, and that which is spiritual.
---Josef on 9/27/17

//We are taught from an early age, taught not to question those who are educated in areas we are not. Whether it's religion, science or medicine.---David

Maybe in Communism Countries, but who in America teaching their children NOT to question religion, science or medicine?

I believe LAST thing standing where we use to teach our children in America was NOT to question Government Safety Authority (Police and Military).
And that has been kicked down.

Please give an example of people today that has been taught NOT to question those 3 areas?
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/27/17

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It's just one of mans foibles, one we must all guard ourselves against. We are taught from an early age, taught not to question those who are educated in areas we are not. Whether it's religion, science or medicine.

When we trust in the word of man, you will not recognize the wisdom of God. Religion, science and medicine are helpful to man, but when the wisdom of God Is replaced with the "wisdom of man", our minds become poisoned against God.
---David on 9/26/17

I also believe and that too is according to,scripture, Jesus said MY WORDS are Spirit .... And again Jesus is the way truth and life.

The only TRUTH is in Jesus Christ ( we also see again in Rev....AND HIS NAME IS CALLED THE WORD OF GOD.....where it is Christ who is hated and rejected for being the very essence of the Mind of God.

They would rather hear someone like Osteen appeal to the ego, or human mind....or those who believe in WORKS salvation, ..where they can pat their own self on the back and totally disregard TRUTH.

---kathr4453 on 9/25/17

//I try to avoid having dialogue with Nicole_Lacey because it's a waste of time and effort.---Rob

She can't help herself. She is obsesses with me.

Click on her name and see that ALL HER POSTS is devoted to me.

In case you haven't NOTICE she keeps addressing me.

I was speaking to StrongAxe about our Founding Fathers which she jumped into the debate.

She asked me WHY I left the convent and with each answer she keeps asking another or attacking Nuns, or the Catholic Church.

Please don't respond to this post.

I am happy with our status quo.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/25/17

TRUTH (real truth) is contrary to (inconsistent with) human nature. God ensured that Pilates statement "What is truth?" was recorded in scripture so that WE WOULD READ IT (God wanted us to be aware that real "TRUTH" is considered IRRELEVANT among humanity).

Jesus was pronounced INNOCENT by this world's institutions of law (that was "THE TRUTH"), but as Pilate was saying, it didn't matter to how this world operates.
---faithforfaith on 9/25/17

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Kathr, in case you have not noticed, I try to avoid having dialogue with Nicole_Lacey because it's a waste of time and effort.
---Rob on 9/25/17

Jeremiah 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means, and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

Rob, don't mind Nicole's ignorant rant...

This problem has been around from the beginning. It's really sad.

Nicole, maybe your twin sister means she is prettier on the INSIDE than you are. Your attack here of Robs question show not only a nasty spirit, but an ignorant one too, since his question was based on scripture ....not your ranting ignorance of the question.
---kathr4453 on 9/25/17

Rob that is an odd question to ask. Tell me who is claiming to LOVE hearing the vain philosophy of men along with the lies of satan???


Soooo, they know satan is lying to them and loving it?

They know the philosophy they believe belongs to vain men and loving it??

Isn't it vain to believe another person loves to hear vain philosophy of men and the lies of satan.

That's like saying I am prettier than you and you know it.

Believe it or not, my twin sister said that to me.
And we are identical at that.
---Nicole_Lacey on 9/24/17

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