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Justice Roy Moore Accusations

Do you believe the accusations made against Justice Roy Moore?

Why now?

He has been disgraced several times already in the past. Why didn't they take those opportunities to tell their stories?

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I hope folks wise up and get tired of the same ol excuse " the Leftys are out to get us" mentality. It's a tactic that only appeals to the ignorant. So we'll have to see in two weeks how effective this worn out excuse carries.

I heard there may be someone who is going to run as a write in...some Major. That would be interesting, and certainly give Republicans another option. Funny, George HW Bush told folks to vote for a democrat in LA when he was in office than have the likes of David Dukes REP KKK elected. So this Rep Dem THINGY has taken on a wholenew attitude in the recent years. And I understand Jones the DEM PROSECUTED the KKK in Alabama? WELL THERE YA GO, NOT ALL DEMOCRATS ARE FOR KKK OR WHITE SUPREMACY.
---kathr4453 on 11/29/17


Shape-shifting reptilian Hillary was working with shape-shifting reptilian Osama to take over the world. It's amazing the things we do not know about.
---Loony1 on 11/28/17


Pastor Philip Benham, a friend of Moore's, said Moore likes teen girls because of their purity.
---StrongAxe on 11/27/17


No he didn't. He said he was attracted to YOUNGER LADIES because of their purity, and also because no prospects his own age were available. He never said "teenage girls" or "underage girls". You do know when you twist the context or outright change what someone says that's called a lie, right?
---ObamasBoy on 11/28/17


It's interesting to see Lefties here expressing their selective outrage over Moore's alleged impropriety, whilst they conveniently remain silent about the baby murder platform of the Left, and the rapes, pedophilia, etc committed by Leftists and their Islamist allies.

If it wasn't for the double standards of the hypocritical Left, they wouldn't have any standards at all.

---Haz27 on 11/28/17


Kathr 4453 said "Wow to those who call evil good and good evil."

The word, Kathr is spelled Woe. Your sentence comes out saying Hooray for those who call evil good and good evil. Woe means evil tidings upon those who call evil good and good evil.
---Monk_Brendan on 11/27/17




ObamasBoy:

Pastor Philip Benham, a friend of Moore's, said Moore likes teen girls because of their purity.
---StrongAxe on 11/27/17


Listen if he was banned from the mall for stalking UNDERAGE GIRLS, ( no one bans anyone Pursuing OF AGE GIRLS.... Then There's a problem....A 32 year old man pursuing teenage girls even 17-18 still in HS and meets them at HS football games etc....is a Child preditor......it's just not NORMAL... Not even in Alabama.....like some want to pass off as Ok because it's Podunk back wards Alabama. WRONG. ANd I hope the people and WOMEN and mothers and fathers stand up and say....NOT EVEN IN ALABAMA. Maybe in the 1700-1800's before laws were put into place. Even if the age of consent is 17.....,let me tell you..if some 32 year old was sniffing around my 17 year old daughter, he'd be in HUGE TROUBLE. BIG ..REALLY BIG HUGE TROUBLE as Trump would say.
---kathr4453 on 11/27/17



Roy Moore admitted he dated younger girls. When he said he asked permission from parents to date their young daughters. -Samuelbb7


He never said he dated underaged girls.

I oppose putting child molesters in office. No matter which party.
---Samuelbb7


Everyone does. But some of also oppose crucifying a possibly innocent man without evidence, no matter how many liberals scream "crucify him".

Do you oppose putting advocates of baby murder in office?
---ObamasBoy on 11/27/17


ObamasBoy:

True. This is responsible for Islam's insane rape laws. Muhammed's wife Aisha was accused of adultery. Muhammed countered this by requiring four eyewitnesses for adultery charges. Today, if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant, she can't accuse her rapist, as NOBODY can find four eyewitnesses to rape - yet her own pregnancy condemns HER to death for adultery. (Not unlike the Bible - there was a woman taken in adultery, but no condemnation of the man.)

Multiple crimes establish a pattern. Moore was banned from a mall for his activities, which were WELL KNOWN at the time. Old women in his area are not surprised by the accusations, because such behavior was commonplace among EVERYONE when they were young.
---StrongAxe on 11/27/17


StrongAxe, multiple witnesses of an event is not the same thing as multiple accusations of different events. If there were 2-3 eye witnesses testifying of the same event, as the Bible requires, all recalling identical accurate details then I would believe that. We dont have that. We have 2-3 accusers alleging different events without any other witnesses. That's not the same as 2-3 witnesses of a crime.

Kathr, I never once said I supported Moore, or that I want him in office. I'm merely defending his constitutional right to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. I have no idea if he is guilty or not. I wasn't there, and neither were you. I'm firmly against criminalizing anyone without evidence.
---ObamasBoy on 11/27/17




Roy Moore admitted he dated younger girls. When he said he asked permission from parents to date their young daughters.

Which provide proof to the accusers. I oppose putting child molesters in office. No matter which party.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/27/17


Interesting how Obamasboy wants to put someone in Office that actually was thrown off the bench because he thought he was above the law and constitution of the USA, and broke the law and violated the Constitution. The very same mentality of the Sheriff in AZ Trump pardoned. So here we have a President also CELEBRATING and pardoning LAW BREAKERS, it appears have much in common....NOT UPHOLDING THE LAWS AND CONSTITUTION.

So it is interesting Obabasboy refuses to believe ALL these woman and those who also back up their stories, but supports men who take the law into their own hand. The Hypocricy is FRIGHTENING.

The Bible also says,
Wow to those who call evil good and good evil.
---kathr4453 on 11/27/17


ObamasBoy:

This is why the BIBLICAL standard of proof is 2-3 witnesses. Why do YOU not accept the testimony of such witnesses? There are DOZENS of witnesses against both Trump and Moore. Why are you SO unwilling to believe their testimony? Or is the Biblical standard not enough for you?

I NEVER said an accusation should automatically be believed. This is why the Bible specifically says that the testimonly of one witness is not sufficient.

Sure, public figures are prone to having people telling lies about them, but the more witnesses there are, the more likely it is that their story is true. In many cases there are witnesses who tell corroborating stories that happened long ago, long before Moore was in the limelight.
---StrongAxe on 11/26/17


Do you seriously believe every criminal ought to go free if there isn't a smoking gun, despite a multitude of eyewitness testimony? -StrongAxe


Of course! The burden of proof lies on the accuser, not the accused. Even our constitution dictates that dependents are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Otherwise, a group of people could simply accuse anyone they don't like of any number of crimes and that innocent person would be punished for a crime they didn't commit. Your suggestion that an accusation should be automatically believed when there is no evidence is asinine and dangerous. Any public figure, especially a politician, is bound to have lies told about them by people who don't like them.
---ObamasBoy on 11/26/17


Imagine the courage of those in Gadsden AL, population approx 38,000 ( SMALL TOWN) living there with your family , friends your whole life....and standing up and naming someone as powerful as Moore? BRAVE BEYOND WORDS. I will bet there ARE plenty more who he has molested, but are afraid for their family. And I'm sure There will be repercussions. Look what that man ( who was pardoned by Trump in AZ )did to the Senator Flakes family ....and now a law suit is being filed against him. I hope he looses his shirt. You would think after being pardoned he would be greatful...but NO, just as mean as a snake he was before being pardoned.....and THAT is the problem...these men just retaliate even more. These are HATEFUL MEN...not Christians.
---kathr4453 on 11/26/17


ObamasBoy:

Do you seriously believe every criminal ought to go free if there isn't a smoking gun, despite a multitude of eyewitness testimony?

Deutronomy 17:6, Matthew 18:16, 2 Corinthians 13:1, 1 Timothy 5:19, and Hebrew 1:28 all say truth is established by the words of 2-3 witnesses. In these cases, there are a dozen or more. How many do you need?

Many of these cases can't be proven in court due to statutes of limitations. That doesn't mean they didn't happen.

There was one woman who sued Trump last year, but she withdrew the suit due to death threats. Does intimidation of witnesses mean the accused is innocent? This was how Al Capone and others got away with murder.
---StrongAxe on 11/26/17


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Yes I believe the accusations against Moore. They show a pattern.

Why now? Easy. When other people start standing up against wrong like the millions of women who have come out about the terrible treatment of women. It emboldens others to stand up.

It takes courage to stand up against Powerful men who abuse their power to degrade and take advantage of others.

I cannot support a child molester.

It is sad that politics make people okay with the molestation of children.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/26/17


Denial mean nothing. Bannon and Roger Stone' s major theme is DENY DENY ! LIE LIE. That's a fact they BRAG ABOUT. Moore is Bannon and Stones creation. pathological LIARS have seered their own conscience. They have none.

There is NOTHING CHRISTIAN about Bannon or Stone. There's nothing CHRISTIAN about Trump either. He even lied about being asked to be on the Cover of TIME, that TIME called him out on. That's NUTS. This new breed of generic Christianity will have a short shelf life. The Lord is Not behind such counterfeit Christianity ..so it's power come from Satan only deceiving his own. Real Christians KNOW this.

ISM's cause schisms,
And Movements will pass,
But the Word of the Lord will endure forever.
---kathr4453 on 11/26/17


StrongAxe, an accusation isn't evidence. As an intelligent conservative, I understand that people lie, especially about politicians, and especially about conservatives. So in this current witch hunt culture you should automatically be suspect of accusations without tangible evidence. As I said before, accused persons should be presumed innocent until proven guilty, left or right. I don't have different standards. It just happens that those Democrats you mentioned were caught with tantible proof that left them with zero deniability, while those Republicans have no evidence against them aside from accusations. The left just likes to make false claims of sexual abuse against the right, as it is the easiest way to ruin a person, true or not.
---ObamasBoy on 11/26/17


How many years passed for those who were molested by the RCC Priests. And it wasn't until someone investigating broke the story that THEN hundreds and thousands came out that spanned ..HOW MANY YEARS? Certainly more than 40.

Maybe in Nicole's mind, because it was so common in the Catholic Church, that she doesn't take it that seriously....as a SIN HORRIBLE SIN THAT IS.

I believe Moore's guilty because others have come forward AND who KNEW about his reputation. IF it were just women without others testifying to his odd behavior THEN I can see those wanting to say it's only political....but with others, not abused, who also KNOW of his bad reputation.....it's beyond rediculous those who still want to believe he's innocent.
---kathr4453 on 11/26/17


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ObamasBoy:

There are many women who have testified that Moore acted inappropriately towards him. There was a mall that banned him because of complaints about his inappropriate actions. There was a police officer who acted as a security guard that has also testified to this. How much more evidence do you need?

There are now over 16 women who have testified that Trump sexually harassed them, and then number is growing.
---StrongAxe on 11/25/17



Women are generally believed when the accused is a Democrat (Gary Hart, Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner), not so much when he's a Republican (Clarence Thomas, Donald Trump, Roy Moore). -StrongAxe


Those Democrats you mentioned weren't just alleged. They were caught and proven guilty with a little thing called evidence. There hasn't been a shred of evidence against any of those Republicans you mentioned. I'm fact, there aren't even any supposed victims claiming any allegations in Trump's case, just the media and those who perpetuate their lies such as yourself. That's the difference, caught vs. alleged. Big difference.
---ObamasBoy on 11/25/17


All excellent questions, Nicole Lacey!
---ObamasBoy on 11/25/17


Nicole_Lacey:

Moore is still an issue because despite this scandal, he's STILL running on Dec. 12.

Women are generally believed when the accused is a Democrat (Gary Hart, Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner), not so much when he's a Republican (Clarence Thomas, Donald Trump, Roy Moore).

The photograph thing was deliberately staged, and not a "guilty person being inadvertently caught in the act".

There IS an official handbook for this. It's the Bible. A core precept of Christianity is that we confess our sins (Catholics especially should know this), and after this, receive absolution. Franken, a Jew, apologized. Moore, who claims to be a Christian, has not, despite all the mounting evidence against him.
---StrongAxe on 11/25/17


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StrongAxe: I see posts about Moore constantly.//

Really?

What Social Media do you read? They are behind.

Everyone else has moved on to Rep. Conyers and Senator Franken.

They even have the Texan Rep. Joe Barton even though his incident didn't have anything to do with sexual assault, but blackmail from a Ex-Lover.

Roy Moore seems to be old news.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/17


Can a Democrat please explain when we are suppose to BELIEVE or NOT BELIEVE women when they are accusing men of sexual assault?

Believe them when it's 40 years, but not 10 years?

Believe them when they rape White girls, but not Black girls?

Believe them when them when they rape Americans, buy not Americans?

Believe them when their ISN'T any photographs, but DO NOT believe them when their ARE photographs?

Believe them if they accuse Republican men, but not Democrat men?

If they abuse women and apologize after being caught we must accept the apology?

But if they are innocent and refuse to apologize we must crucify them for the sin they claim they didn't commit?

Is there an official handbook?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/17


Nicole_Lacey:

Because you keep using the same excuse! I told you about Menendez a week ago and you haven't said ONE WORD about him RAPING GIRLS.

As I have said repeatedly, I haven't read anything about that yet. I see posts about Moore constantly. I haven't defended Menendez. Unlike some people here, when I don't know about something, I prefer to remain silent about until I DO know more about it. I have also been fairly busy the past two weeks, and blathering on social media isn't my prime life goal.

As far as "Perverts Democrat Leaders and their refusal to step down", Gary Hart's affair ended his campaign chances, and Anthony Weiner is in jail.
---StrongAxe on 11/24/17


StrongAxe: Why do you KEEP making accusations based on nothing, assuming I will always act as a close-minded bigot? I never said I'm not interested, just that I had not heard them yet.//

Because you keep using the same excuse! I told you about Menendez a week ago and you haven't said ONE WORD about him RAPING GIRLS.

BUT you had several about accusations of hand groping by Moore.

RAPE vs. GROPING.

Which is worst to you?

//I have other things to do than read news and social media//

I bet, esp. when it comes to your Perverts Democrat Leaders and their refusal to step down.

I am letting it go. I know am taking it out on you because it makes me so mad when people give a Rapist like Menendez a pass.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/24/17


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Jerry6593:

Thanks for the the attempt at help, but I loathe Marxism, and "don't blame him because he's a brainwashed Marxist" is no help at all.


ObamasBoy:

How "Christian" of you, wishing I didn't exist (e.g. that I were dead). Ever heard of "love your enemies"? Please explain precisely why I am sickening and vile?

Do you hate abortion and genocide and rape and Satan? So do I. But apparently I'm worse than abortionists, mass murderers, and rapists, and Satanists.

Perhaps you need to turn your rhetoric down a little bit. Despite our differences, you always seemed to discuss things civilly here, but this comment seems as hysterical as many from Haz27.
---StrongAxe on 11/24/17


StrongAxe represents the absolute worst and most sickening, vile people in our society. It's a shame that awful people like StrongAxe actually even exist.
---ObamasBoy on 11/23/17

OB, you"re being too hard on the axster. First of all, he's not even an American, so he's not a member of "our society". Secondly, as a leftist (or liberal, progressive, communist Marxist) he is inextricably attached to his religion (leftism) above any societal or national allegiance. He has been so brainwashed by his religion that he can see no truth to the contrary. Pity.


---Jerry6593 on 11/24/17


Nicole_Lacey:

When they took place is not at issue. What is "convenient" is the when accusations were made.

Why do you KEEP making accusations based on nothing, assuming I will always act as a close-minded bigot? I never said I'm not interested, just that I had not heard them yet. I have other things to do than read news and social media 24/7, and this has been a busy week.

I think it's wrong REGARDLESS of who is doing it.


Haz27:

I said "The bible does not prohibit abortion", not "I approve of it". I loathe smoking, but the bible doesn't forbid that either. I also didn't say babies aren't human, but there is a lot of difference between a 1 day old fetus and a 269 day old fetus.
---StrongAxe on 11/23/17


StrongAxe: So is the timing with Franken.//

Timing? Photograph is timeless and it was taken in 2006.

No photographs proof against Moore.

//Why do you say "again" about something that just happened today? I haven't even heard about it yet.//

Because you DON'T want to know about it.

The FBI have accused Bob Menendez in 2015 and mistrial documents within the last 2 weeks.

Go look if you care about women as you claim.

//Shallow?//

Yes, because you act as if you care about women being sexual abused but your concern is as shallow as depended upon who is the abuser in your mind.

I was addressing Kathr with the 'crucify him' not you.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/23/17


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AXE. Why do you claim you oppose abortion when you also argue from your misunderstanding of scripture that the unborn are not even human anyway?

Since you believe that babies in the womb are not even human, why your supposed opposition to killing them?

It's sad to see you adopt the Left's trademark position of dehumanizing those they seek to kill.
---Haz27 on 11/23/17


StrongAxe represents the absolute worst and most sickening, vile people in our society. It's a shame that awful people like StrongAxe actually even exist.
---ObamasBoy on 11/23/17


Nicole_Lacey:

Kay Ivey said she had no reason to doubt the accusations against Moore.

Yes, the timing is curious. So is the timing with Franken.

Why do you say "again" about something that just happened today? I haven't even heard about it yet.

Shallow? Look at some of the other people here. If you're going to hurl accusations, at least be objective about it.

As for adultery, I'm not saying "crucify him". However, it IS a symptom of his value system, which makes him unqualified for public office, and CERTAINLY unqualified to be called a Christian.
---StrongAxe on 11/23/17


StrongAxe, Kay Ivey NEVER said Moore is a child molester. Plus you let out that she thought the TIMING was a little curious as well.

Again answer about the SENATOR the FBI is accusing of molesting children TODAY!

NY BOB MENENDEZ!

You and Kathr are very shallow. I don't see how you all debate on CN?

Kathr: EVEN ADULTRY Nicole is NOT CHRISTIANITY. TRUMP is an adulter.---kathr4453 on 11/22/17


And You would be in the crowd shouting CRUCIFY HIM, CRUCIFY HIM!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/23/17


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ObamasBoy:

I already showed scripture does NOT consider abortion murder. Manslaughter and murder both demand the death penalty. Since an accidental miscarriage does not invoke the death penalty, it CANNOT be manslaughter - threfore, the being that is killed is NOT a human being under OT law, and threfore, even wilful killing of it is not murder. There is nothing in the New Testament that alters this.

I never said molestation is worse than abortion. Why do you people keep reading things between the lines that I never said, then condemning me for fantasies you pull out of your own minds?

Moore has never been convicted due to the Statute of Limitations. Abortion providers are not convicted of murder either.
---StrongAxe on 11/22/17


StrongAxe, just to make sure I'm understanding what you are saying... You are saying that molestation is worse than murder? Is that what you are trying to get at here? If it is, then that's pretty sick. Yes, molestation is aweful and sickening. But to say it's worse than dismembering and brutally killing an innocent baby? I don't think so. The fact that you think dismembering an unborn baby while it is still alive and then brutally killing it is worse than molestation shows just how sick and perverted Democrats are.

And the kicker is... Roy Moore has never even been convicted of molestation nor has there been any shred of evidence to suggest he did.
---ObamasBoy on 11/22/17


1970-80's is where Christian NATIONALISM began, and has nothing to do with Christianity, is NOW taking a stronghold like never before.

You also see true CHRISTIANS in Alabama and around the country who say DO NOT VOTE FOR MOORE, based strictly on Christianity..without Politics. When we start to see politics CORRUPT Christians conscience, saying putting a republican in even if they are abusers of any kind of known sin, EVEN ADULTRY Nicole is NOT CHRISTIANITY. TRUMP is an adulter.

It wasn't that long age we would NEVER have someone like Trump represent the Republican Party, or even democrat for that matter. Trump who is a democrat was pushed to run as THIS NEW kind of RACIST ALT RIGHT, is bringing out an EVIL element already here.
---kathr4453 on 11/22/17


Nicole_Lacey:

Please do vote according to FACTS, and not merely along party lines.

LIE! You call yourself a Christian?
Name that Republican StrongAxe?


That Republican is no other than Alabama governor Kay Ivey. She said she has no reason to disbelieve the accusations against Moore. She also said she will vote for him anyway, because it's important to have a Republican in that seat. I.e. she would rather vote for someone she believes is a child molester merely because he's a Republican, than for a Democrat.
---StrongAxe on 11/22/17


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StrongAxe: I am an Alabamian Voter and will vote according to FACTS not emotions

Thank God you and Kathr CAN'T vote in Alabama.

//Some Republican leaders say they would rather have a child molester in office than a Democrat.//

LIE! You call yourself a Christian?

Name that Republican StrongAxe?

Michael Reagan (RINO) said he rather have a Pro-choice Senator than a child molester on The Ingraham Angle show.

He is an Idiot.

He admitted he rather have babies KILLED before they are born and grow.
Just in case, they accidently run into an 'alleged' US Senator Rapist?

HOW STUPID IS THAT?

Now Alabamian babies have to die base on sexual allegations?!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/21/17


David:

Roy Moore is free to run for whatever he wants. The voters will decide whether or not his character, as shown by his actions, is suitable to represent them. Some Republican leaders say they would rather have a child molester in office than a Democrat. (It's sad when Christians rail about trans people attacking girls in bathrooms, which has never happened, yet vote for a judge who has ACTUALLY done so.)

The public thinks otherwise. Before, Moore was ahead 8% in the polls. Now he's behind 0.2%. We will see on Dec. 12.

Franken is already elected, so it's his choice whether to stay in office or resign (same with Trump and his accusers). Both refuse to resign, but will have to face the voters at the next election.
---StrongAxe on 11/21/17


I agree Jerry

StrongAxe: I wasn't there, but many other witnesses WERE.//

No one CLAIMS to be WITNESSES.

Only 2 women claim to be VICTIMS.

You and Kathr seem NOT to understand the difference between a victim and a witness.

NO WITNESSES!

//admitting our sins and asking forgiveness is KEY to Christianity, more than any other religion.//

NO, they All DEMAND admittance to ones sins. But you have to commit the sin FIRST!

//It should shame any Christian deeply when someone who is not a Christian behaves in a more Christ-like manner than they themselves do.---StrongAxe

Rather, Moore is MORE CHRIST-LIKE because he is being ACCUSED of a crime he DIDN'T commit!

MOB-STYLE CONDEMNATION
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/21/17


StrongAxe
Help me to understand your line of thinking.

You believe Roy Moore should not run for the senate because of what he has been accused. But it is okay for Al Franken to remain in the senate, because he has apologized? Or do you believe Al Franken should resign?
---David on 11/21/17


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ObamasBoy:

No, I wasn't there, but many other witnesses WERE.


Nicole_Lacey:

No, not only Christians admit faults, but the KEY doctrine of Christianity is Jesus died for our sins, meaning we HAVE sins - so admitting our sins and asking forgiveness is KEY to Christianity, more than any other religion.

I pointed out Franken, a Jew, did what Christians are expected to do , while Moore, a Christian didn't. If someone who didn't know either of them was asked "which of these two men is a Christian?", based on their actions, he would have to say Franken.

It should shame any Christian deeply when someone who is not a Christian behaves in a more Christ-like manner than they themselves do.
---StrongAxe on 11/21/17


Nicole: Isn't it strange how the lefties here uphold the accusers of (presumed innocent) Judge Moore while voting for the convicted destroyer of actual Bill Clinton rape victims.



---Jerry6593 on 11/21/17


//Denial is NOT proof one is innocent.//

Don't we know it. Bill Clinton kept denying it, and denying it and denying it until they came up with PROOF.

Al Franken denied it until the photo came out!

// then couldn't deny any longer. Nixon,//

There were tapes on Nixon! Tapes were proofs!

No proven lie of Trump.

//He assaulted women with many many witnesses to his odd behavior.---kathr4453

As Obamaboy and I said to StrongAxe: WHAT WITNESSES?

If you all were there WHY DID YOU BOTH STAY SILENT FOR SO LONG?!

And stop blogging and give your report to Gloria Allred right now.

She needs you both because the yearbook and parking lot story is falling apart.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/21/17


StrongAxe: The essence of Christianity is to admit to one's faults and ask forgiveness, rather than deny them. Franken, a Jew, is more Christian then Moore, a conservative Christian in this//

You have some nerve.

That is the craziest thing I ever heard before. Jews are NOT Christians! Muslims are NOT Jews! Christians are NOT Muslims!

Jews are CAPABLE of asking for forgiveness just as much as Christians.

Are you claiming Jews CAN'T ask for forgiveness UNLESS they CONVERT to the Christian faith first?

ONLY CHRISTIAN PEOPLE ADMIT THEIR FAULTS?

'Atheists won't according to you. Hindus won't according to you and everyone knows Jews will not admit their faults like Christians don't you know?'

REALLY?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/20/17


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Denial is NOT proof one is innocent. We have seen many through the years DENY DENY DENY and then couldn't deny any longer. Nixon, Clinton...called legally LYING. Kellyanne Conways new Alt Right lying is called ALTERNATIVE FACTS. Roger Stone and Bannons main thought and actions is DENY DENY DENY. That is a fact. Also look at all the proven LIES Trump has told on many issues clearly exposed as LIES. The anti-Christ will come with may LYING signs and wonders. You all are just being greased.....having no discernment. Moore has lied now so much he has boxed himself in. With all these Christians supporting him etc....how could he at this point come clean.....

He assaulted women with many many witnesses to his odd behavior.
---kathr4453 on 11/20/17


"Moore assaulted multiple women, including teenagers. He did not apologize. He denied everything, despite multiple witnesses. He had been banned from a mall because he was known to assault women."
---StrongAxe on 11/20/17


Really? You were there and saw all this and didn't report it to the proper authorities when it happened? Or are you repeating rumors when you don't know if they are true or not? You do know this is bearing false witness, right? Shame on you.
---ObamasBoy on 11/20/17


StrongAxe, what about Melanie Morgan? Franken hasn't apologized

What about Bob Menendez and Bill Clinton?

The FBI themselves are accusing them of raping Dominican girls just 2 YEARS AGO?

//Moore assaulted multiple women, including teenagers. He did not apologize//

Because he claims he didn't do it. Why apologize for something you didn't do?

//He denied everything, despite multiple witnesses.//

LIE! WHAT WITNESSES? You made that up!

//He had been banned from a mall because he was known to assault women.//

Gadsden Mall Officials deny those claims.

You better pray women don't accuse you raping them.

Lets see how quick you want EVERYONE TO BELIEVE them just based on their WORD!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/20/17


David:

I didn't say he isn't. However, let's compare the cases:

Franken felt up one adult woman. He apologized. She forgave him. He called for an investigation into the incident. Democrats condemn his action.

Moore assaulted multiple women, including teenagers. He did not apologize. He denied everything, despite multiple witnesses. He had been banned from a mall because he was known to assault women. Some Republicans and Christians defend his action.

Do you see the difference?

The essence of Christianity is to admit to one's faults and ask forgiveness, rather than deny them. Franken, a Jew, is more Christian then Moore, a conservative Christian in this.
---StrongAxe on 11/20/17


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There are actually Republicans who would rather vote for a pervert than a Democrat, and Christians who defend perverts and persecute their accusers (not just Moore, but also other cases).
---StrongAxe on 11/20/17


StrongAxe
Can you explain why Al Franken, a sitting Senator, is not a pervert in your book?

I would think a man who has admitted to his crimes, as Franken has, is more culpable than one who has been accused?

I jumped to the same conclusion about Moore until I listened to the evidence, as if I were sitting on a jury. I just couldnt convict him on the testimony of someone who may have an ulterior motive.

Remember, Jesus was also convicted by folks who gave false testimonies.
---David on 11/20/17


These are not little girls making allegations, but GROWN WOMEN telling what happened to them when they were little girls. BIG DIFFERENCE. And yes, there have been many come forward stating everyone knew at that time it was common knowledge Moore moved on underage girls, and was watched closely at malls etc, even banned from the mall. This new AltRigjt Chriatian mentality want to make up outlandish excuses for it. Moore was NOT betrothed to any of these minor children who some seem to think that defines Joseph's relation to Mary before marriage.....sorry, it's SICK.

And another Republican Family Values going to Prison ( Oklahoma) for Child trafficking and ped behavior...OH, and that REP from Ohio, also another immoral incident.
---kathr4453 on 11/20/17


To be clear, I am neither defending nor accusing Roy Moore. I am only defending his constitutional right to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Admittedly, I don't know Roy Moore or any of his accusers and I certainly wasn't there, so I don't know if he is guilty or not. And I highly doubt any of you know either. So, until there is actual proof or evidence of any wrong doing, shame on all of you. If you didn't personally witness Roy Moore committing any of these acts, then you have no place to say he is guilty are repeating rumors which seem highly incredible and could as well be lies.
---ObamasBoy on 11/20/17


During the Salem which trials a group of several girls got many innocent people burned and hanged, because "it was more than just one accusation, it was several girls, making it not just one person's word against another, but several girls word's again there's". Sound familiar? This is why these kinds of baseless accusations are called "witch hunts" to this very day. And the exact reason why we have due process and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, not the other way around.

When you are a public figure, it's not at all uncommon to have people crawling out of the wood work wanting their piece of the pie.

The amount of accusations is not the same thing as evidence.
---ObamasBoy on 11/20/17


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Kathr, you don't know what you are talking about.

None of these things came out about Moore until now. Even one of the lady accusing Moore had him as a Divorce Judge and she still DIDN'T ask him to recuse himself.

Another lady had anti-Moore and anti-Trump material on her facebook site before she wiped it clean.

What about the Year book?

Mostly, what about you? Why are you a hypocrite?

NJ Bob Menendez a SITTING Senator NOW still has MULTIPLE child molestation accusations against him since 2015 in Dominican Republic made by the FBI.

WHAT, you don't care because they are Black?

You only care about White Girls?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/20/17


David:

If it were just one, it would be "he said/she said", but many women are coming forward because they're no longer afraid to speak - and some are Republicans. One unfortunate thing about sexual abuse is it's so heinous, many refuse to believe such accusations are possible, and automatically call victims liars, assaulting them twice. This is hard for adults, but devastating for children or teens, who are so traumatized they don't want to think, let alone talk about it.

There are actually Republicans who would rather vote for a pervert than a Democrat, and Christians who defend perverts and persecute their accusers (not just Moore, but also other cases). Such people seriously need to re-evaluate their priorities.
---StrongAxe on 11/20/17


It's horrible the excuses the evangelicals are using to excuse Moores behavior...---kathr4453 on 11/19/17

Kathryn
I agree,....if they are true, but the facts are, we dont know the Truth.
Senator Al Franken has also been accused, but those who accuse Roy Moore are silent about wanting Al Franken to step down. Franken even apologized,..proving his misdeeds.

This proves they hate Moore, not because of his perceived misdeeds, but simply because hes a republican.

If this is not the reason explain this conflicting rush to judgement.
---David on 11/20/17


Nursey: I've never used a pseudonym on CN. You must have me confused with someone else. Obama's Boy has stated that he's black (so has Nicole), that's how I know.

We Republicans don't make an issue of race as you Dems do. It's just not an issue with us. You guys use it as a ploy to garner votes and to practice your Marxist class warfare. It's shameful.


---Jerry6593 on 11/20/17


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---Jerry6593 on 11/19/17

Of course, who wouldn't miss your Noel Cowart like wit...

I seem to remember a couple of years ago you pulled the same thing, signing on under a different name.

Since I can't see "Obamasboy" I don't know if he is black or white. In truth, I never mentioned his color, because I didn't care. It certainly seems like you do.
---NurseRobert on 11/19/17


Both Sanduski and Paterno were/ are REPUBLICANS. Even at the time in 2012 when the story broke Republicans came out defending Sanduski. GROSS GROSS GROSS. Again, making it political when it was not. Yes there are many stories of REPUBLICANS involved in pediofile behavior.

And this did come out during the time he was assistant DA. At that time in history , and probably in backwards Alabama , along with threats, and of coarse Moore pretending to hide behind that ROCK of the 10 commandments, and just like Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas.....she was said to be lying and he was confirmed. That was in the early 90's. Even then it was stacked against women. TODAY it is taken seriously...THANK GOD.
---kathr4453 on 11/19/17


NurseBobby:

Glad to see I was missed. I was busy with the aftermath of the hurricane that struck us a few months ago (I'm still wrestling with FEMA). I was also on travel for a while.

So you think that Obama's Boy and I are the same guy? You left-handed wingnuts are too much. The difference between us is as clear as black and white. You could readily be classified as Obama's Boy because of your adoration of that traitorous poser, but I do agree with the CN Obama's Boy's political slant. It must drive you crazy to see a black man (or woman in Nicole's case) be anti-Obama.


---Jerry6593 on 11/19/17


David, these RUMORS have been floating around AL for years. This didn't just jump up out of nowhere. Because of #metoo, and someone tipping off the press of these rumors, the WP went down to investigate. The woman he violated the most horrible is a Republican along with her husband a Republican, voted for Trump who now lives in CA. She has no dog in this race...but came forward after the 14 year old was called a LIAR. That TOO is one of then10 Commandments Moore just may be breaking.

It's horrible the excuses the evangelicals are using to excuse Moores behavior...."well Mary was only Bla Bla Bal when Joseph was older" CRAP. I don't recall any bible verses where Joseph FORCED himself on Mary.

Now 9.
---kathr4453 on 11/19/17


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Personally I find it hard to believe a man who has held public office for so many years, whose enemies throughout those years have gone through his life with a fine tooth comb, is all of a sudden found to be a pervert.

Lies spoken about someone, spoken by their enemies, without any evidence, wouldnt hold up if you sat on a jury in a courtroom. So why does it carry so much weight for those who believe Roy Moore is a pervert?

Its because they allow their hatred to cloud their judgement.
---David on 11/18/17


NurseRoberts, hmmm. Maybe your on to something! Have you ever thought about being a detective?
---ObamasBoy on 11/15/17


Ever notice how "Obamasboy" appeared and we haven't seen much of Jerry lately?
---NurseRobert on 11/15/17


Obamasboy, it's Not One word against another, it's 6 and counting, with more than 30 backing up the claims Moore was a creep and child stalker, at malls, HS football games and more.
---kathr4453 on 11/15/17


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A 6th woman has come out. I'm proud of Ivanka for making a statement she sees no reason to doubt these woman. As one here put so much faith in Geraldo Revera over Puerto Rico, he, an attorney came right out after listening to Moore's radio interview with Hannity did not hesitate to point out Moore is lying. WOW! Also others Hannity had on his show...also FOX contributors,and now Hannity had given Moore 24 hrs now less to address his contradictions. There may be a senate hearing..who knows. But the accuser is ready and willing.

Trumps silence speaks volumes ...I'm sure he's involved in something to either get Sessions to take back the seat to SAVE the Republican Party...or to find a way to legally put off the vote until 2018.
---kathr4453 on 11/15/17


RE: innocent until proven guilty...

if this applies to the accused, in this instance Moore, than it also applies to the women, as they too have been accused.
---Chria9396 on 11/15/17


No. The women are the accusers, not the accused. The presumption of innocence until proven guilty applies only to the accused. Meaning, according to the U.S. Constitution, until there is sufficient proof, it should be assumed that the accusations are false. This is because anyone can say anything about anyone, true or not. The severity of the accusation doesn't change the fact that at this point it is merely one person's word against another's, nor should it change the fact that the accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
---ObamasBoy on 11/15/17


RE: innocent until proven guilty...

if this applies to the accused, in this instance Moore, than it also applies to the women, as they too have been accused.

This phrase can have application to any of us, that we judge not, no matter what we might perceive...
---Chria9396 on 11/15/17


Why didn't they take those opportunities to tell their stories?
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/12/17

Why did it take so long for people in the Catholic Church to come forward accuse priests of sexual molestation? Why do rape victims not come forward?
---NurseRobert on 11/14/17


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---Cluny on 11/13/17

Innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept. Moore isn't at that stage yet. As of now, 5 people have accused him of this behavior. He was banned from a mall in Alabama because of his behavior.

One or two... maybe... but 5?
---NurseRobert on 11/14/17


I believe them and the many people in the community who say they heard or knew about his creepy behavior. Where there's smoke, there's fire. Denial is not proof either.
I believe them.
---Pg1 on 11/14/17


The Lord works in mysterious ways. Because of the Weinstein K. Spacy and now others every day coming out having themselves kept these truths quiet for YEARS ...no one has accused them of lying for any reason. Also the women assaulted by R. Moore were teenagers at the time I was a teenager...where these things were just not talked about. Even those abused by RCC Priests for years and years didn't come out until they were adults and also BECAUSE OTHERS WERE COMING FORWARD. The latest woman, who gave a press conference today has a horrible story....and is a REPUBLICAN and voted for Trump. So this is not politically motivated. It's motivated by #metoo. I'm so glad people are coming forward about all the abuse no matter who or what or when.
---kathr4453 on 11/13/17


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