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Was Hitler A Socialist

Was Hitler on the left, or the right, politically speaking?

Haz27 said, "And Hitler was a Socialist, as I've already shown."

Where? I don't remember ANY proof from you on anything about Hitler.

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---Haz27 on 12/3/17 another typical NON answer...

Just answer the question... What would you do to stop abortion?

It's a simple question, one you have continually refused to answer. Why is that?
---NurseRobert on 12/4/17


Samuel: why do those who oppose Abortion often oppose health care for pregnant women?//

No one oppose health care for pregnant women but Democrats.

We ALWAYS had health care for pregnant so much that ILLEGAL WOMEN come to America to have their children here!

Democrats solutions for pregnant women is to KILL their babies.

If you call that health care you can keep it! We don't need that kind of health care.

//When you oppose taking care of the Mother and child putting both at risk of death.//

Right you all just want to kill the baby in maybe kill the mother in the process of killing the baby.

//They made reading the Bible a sin punishable by death.---Samuel

A LIE!

GIVE CCC# Or apology
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/4/17


NURSE. You're back still trying to deflect from the guilt of YOUR genocidal side of politics.

And again my answer remains the same. If the Christian vote wasn't divided with the likes of you and AXE justifying why you should continue to vote for genocidal baby murdering DEMs, then a united Christian voting block could not be ignored by the DEMs.

The question you should seriously consider is why do you defend the Christian hating Left with its genocidal abortion platform, and LGBT deviancy indoctrination of children, etc?
Why identify as a loving Christian, but then argue to divide the Christian vote so that the genocidal DEMs can continue with its easier abortion platform and LGBT deviancy indoctrination of children?
---Haz27 on 12/3/17


SAMUEL. Its disappointing that you defend the heartless, destructive Left.

The blame for abortions clearly falls upon the parties involved, which are one or both the parents, abortion doctors, AND THE DEMs who PUSHED FOR easier abortion, with the sales pitch of dehumanizing the unborn, etc.

The fact you excuse heartless Left/DEMs from any guilt in this genocide only shows how your Leftist bias distorts your view and supposed love for others.

The Left/DEMs representatives sold the justifications excusing abortion (exterminating babies) just as the Left/NAZI representatives sold the justifications for exterminating Gypsies, Jews, etc.

BTW, BO was an evil, divisive, Christian hating Communist.

---Haz27 on 12/4/17


Nursey: "What would YOU do to stop abortion."

Eliminate the scourge of radical socialism (Democrats) from our nation.


---Jerry6593 on 12/4/17




NurseRobert: You three love to moan and groan about abortion but won't step up and do something about it... Why is that?---NurseRobert//

What a ridiculous statement to ask us!

Why do you think we are NOT doing anything?

Jerry and I voted for TRUMP for that reason! He placed Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court.

I can't speak for Jerry, but that was my #1, 2, -29th reason I voted for Trump! THE ABORTION FACTOR!

But, it is dumb for you to think that we have to be SILENT pretending babies are NOT being torn apart limb by limb just because you want to sleep better at night!

You all need to be ashamed of yourselves for trying to silenced us. esp on a Christian website!

MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON US ALL!
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/4/17


Good point nurse. Also why do those who oppose Abortion often oppose health care for pregnant women? When you oppose taking care of the Mother and child putting both at risk of death. Are you then in fact working against the poor and unborn child?

True we can oppose abortion as a sin. But does that make those who believe it is the right of the Mother to decide to sin or not? Is the Government to take over and declare that these sins are illegal by the order of the church?

Before Martin Luther the Roman Catholic church labeled what is sin. They ran the government. They made reading the Bible a sin punishable by death. So do you want to go back to putting a church in charge?
---Samuelbb7 on 12/4/17


Nicole, Haz and whoever....I simply stated MY PERSONAL conviction on this subject. And THAT is actually between me and th Lord. Thank goodness I never had to put into practice for any of those reasons listed...HOWEVER, I do not JUDGE any woman who has, based on those reasons. THAT area is not for me to JUDGE. A mothers health should always be 1st priority. A 10 year old girl SHOULD NOT BE PUT AT RISK of childbirth. And today when the courts give RAPISTS joint custody etc, and you are now tied to the rapist for life....WRONG. Even in the OT, both man and woman were stoned for Adultry. What verse says...BUT WAIT AND FIRST SEE IF THE WOMAN IS PREGNANT, and if she is, deliver the baby AND THEN STONE HER. I couldn't find it. Can you?
---kathr4453 on 12/4/17


KATHR said: "Women who chose abortion other than those I listed KILL"

Its very disappointing to hear you say, IN BOLD, to "KILL" babies from rape, incest, etc.

It sounds like you've been influenced by the heartless Left with it's dehumanization of unborn babies.

Like Nicole said, what foundation do you have from scripture to justify your "authority" to say "KILL" unwanted babies?
---Haz27 on 12/4/17


---Haz27 on 12/1/17

Im asking AGAIN. What would YOU do to stop abortion. Heck I will throw it out to Lacey and Jerry too..

You three love to moan and groan about abortion but won't step up and do something about it... Why is that?
---NurseRobert on 12/3/17




Kathr: I do not condemn woman who have chosen abortion due to rape, health reasons that could result in their death, or incest being forced on a minor.//

Do you see what I mean?

Gave me chapter and verse from YOUR Bible making you god stating when someone is ALLOWED to KILL a baby or not?

So babies has to pay for their father's sin in your religion?

Next you will say abortion is okay on Wednesdays but not on Sundays.

Okay during the month of October but not in December.

Why do Democrats get to set the rules?

//Women who chose abortion other than those I listed KILL.//

So let me understand your strange reality.

Babies from rape, incest and sickly mothers are FICTIONAL babies to you?
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/3/17


The people who have and perform the Abortions are the guilty parties. Not the people who allow them in a free country.

Just as guns don't kill people. People kill people.

The Democrats don't make areas poorer. Not a fact. It took less the five minutes of research to prove that.

Both sides tend to ignore what they don't want to believe.

But those on the right are willing to hurt themselves in order to discriminate. Much is said about fake news. The majority of fake news is from the right currently. Which they by yelling louder try to make false.

For instance most of what Trump is taking credit for was done by Obama. Trump has pretty much failed to do anything.

GOD is love.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/3/17


However, I don't think it is up to us to condemn anyone. That is for the Lord to do or to FORGIVE those who regret and have repented of their actions, YES even REPUBLICAN women have chosen abortion for a choice. Oh they may not openly admit to it, but Republican women are every bit as much sinners as Democrat woman. And again, not ALL Democrat women have chosen abortion OR even believe in Abortion. Many democrat women like many republican women do not believe in abortion.

The Pope would be considered a lefty democrat who is against abortion.

So please stop labeling people and comdemning people based on political beliefs. We don't condemn GROUPS, unless Nicole you want us to CONDEMN THE WHOLE RCC FOR PERVY CHILD MOLESTATION.
---kathr4453 on 12/3/17


KATHR. Guns are an inanimate object, incapable of thought or voluntary action.

People, however, have cognitive ability to use inanimate objects like cars, guns, pool cues, flower pots, milk bottles, etc as weapons to harm others .

Your attempt to excuse the genocidal DEMs politicians (people) by likening them to lifeless guns lacking any cognitive function, is ludicrous.

I can assure you Kathr, DEMs politicians are just as much a living, thinking being as you are.
And DEMs, through their cognitive decision to push for easier abortion, are clearly the genocidal baby murdering (approx 3000 babies per day in USA) side of politics.

I do hope you'll stop excusing the genocidal, heartless Left of politics.
---Haz27 on 12/3/17


I condemn every single woman whether democrat or republican who out of selfishness chose abortion. I do not condemn woman who have chosen abortion due to rape, health reasons that could result in their death, or incest being forced on a minor.

Just as GUNS don't KILL, neither do democrats KILL. Women who chose abortion other than those I listed KILL.

Stop blaming politics for abortion....blame the one who personally chose that option...just like those who kill with GUNS.

You guys want it both ways...WRONG. Or else start screaming about the REPUBLICANS murdering people with GUNS.

OK enough already.
---kathr4453 on 12/3/17


Monk, there isn't anything WRONG Haz said about the Democrats party

Abortion ONLY kills babies. Which is genocide. Over 60 million babies in America had died since 1973 if that isn't genocide what is?

2nd all Democrat cities and States ran by Democrats for more than 10 years have an increase rate of poverty. FACT!

Homeless are on the rise in New York City, Detroit, Portland, San Francisco, Compton, Baltimore, Los Angeles, DC and Honolulu

//Plus, we still haven't been able to figure out why you CONSTANTLY bring up baby-killing. I, like God hate abortion//

But, Haz and I can't understand WHY you WON'T CONDEMN the DEMOCRAT Party for killing baby if you hate abortion?

Trust me God has condemn them
---Nicole_Lacey on 12/3/17


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What is the spiritual fate aborted babies?
---Loony1 on 12/2/17


JERRY. What you say is true. The Left is a religious cult. KGB Communist defector Yuri Bezmanov said that brainwashed Lefties reject facts because facts cause cognitive dissonance for them.

The fact that all DEMs run cities suffer from increasing poverty, crime, etc, matters little to brainwashed Lefties who prefer to believe the lie that heartless DEMs are somehow the party of compassion and care.

The Left today rely on authoritarian force and lies, as did their predecessors Hitler, Stalin ,Mao, Pol Pot.

Even in school, uni education system we see lies routinely being taught by brainwashed Leftist teachers. Any dissenting student who offers contrary facts is penalized with poor marks, and/or abused, bullied.

---Haz27 on 12/3/17


AXE. Hicks is clearly messed up. Even his web site picture shows him with devil horns.

As I said, mans governments are flawed. REPs are simply the lessor evil to DEMs. For Hicks to become disillusioned with REPs is understandable. But for him to then become a registered DEM (the greater evil) only proves how distorted & messed up he is.

Ive seen people like this before, disillusioned, hurt by trusted pastors, etc, and then shun God as a result. Satan tried similar with Job.

BTW, you still havent justified your doctrine that salvation by good deeds can be got even if they deny Jesus is the Christ who died for our sin.

MONK. Youre letting anger blind you. Settle down. Have a break from these topics
---Haz27 on 12/2/17


No difference between Nancy Pelosi and Pol Pot. I had no idea.
---Loony1 on 12/2/17


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What is generally accepted as fact about Adolf supports, in my opinion, that he was a narcissist.

The narcissist can adopt and use what people esteem . . . so the narcissist can look superior, and gain control for what he or she wants to use people to get.

So, in case Adolf were to express certain socialist ideas, this might not have meant he really believed in them, but may be he was trying to gain power and favor which he felt could come with those ideas.

For a while, wasn't he trying to get support with Russia? And Russia was somehow socialist and a big power. So, Adolf could have been trying to collect power and favor, by adopting Russia, though he might not have any ideology except him, himself, and he.
---Bill on 12/2/17


Haz27:

Hicks USED to be an evangelical Christian Republican. He studied scripture and took his faith seriously. However, he saw the hypocrisy in the Republicans and modern American evangelical Christianity, and AS A RESULT, abandoned both. He didn't form these views because he was "brainwashed by the left". He STARTED on the right, and saw it for the sham it was, and realized that the only correct and honest thing to do was to flee it.
---StrongAxe on 12/2/17


Haz: These leftist clowns are willingly ignorant of the facts right in front of them. They can see the same evidence we do, but they can't seem to reason from cause to effect. The world is filled with examples of the devastation caused by socialist government. Our country is filled with large cities run by Democrat socialists. In EVERY case, ruin and destruction are the end result of socialism.

Why are they so blind? It must be their socialist religion that has seared their minds. Why doesn't socialism work? Because it always requires that a few government elites decide what is best for individuals, and apply force to make them conform. Force is the government of Satan - Freedom is the government of Jesus.

---Jerry6593 on 12/2/17


Haz27 said, "BTW, the DEMs are not moderate Socialists...
The DEMs record of baby genocide, increasing poverty in DEMs run cities, racism, etc proves it."


Haz, face it, we all know by now that you are the real leftist here, with your Commie plots to turn everyone over to the left by making people think, "Gad, if she's Right Wing, I never want any part of it."

Plus, we still haven't been able to figure out why you CONSTANTLY bring up baby-killing. I, like God hate abortion, and divorce.

And I have never ONCE heard you talk about Jesus, and His love for us, even you, which anyone who wants to be saved has to accept. No Scripture, either. You never quote it.
---Monk_Brendan on 12/2/17


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MONK. When you repeat the same ridicule that Leftists always use to denigrate D'Sousa and Horowitz, then I call it out for what it is.

AXE. Hicks is a REGISTERED DEM. Hence is distorted views.
I read several of his articles, especially the one you referred to which refers to Matt 25 and 7, and both these scripture references Hicks misunderstood, just as you do.
I respond to his articles just the same as I did to you when you used his same flawed logic weeks ago.

BTW, the DEMs are not moderate Socialists. They are of the similar kind as Leftists like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.
The DEMs record of baby genocide, increasing poverty in DEMs run cities, racism, etc proves it.



---Haz27 on 12/1/17


Haz27 said "MONK. Your last 2 posts ridiculing academics David Horowitz & Dinesh D'Sousa,...Such imitation suggests you're in the Leftist bubble.
The Left always rely on ridicule to try to turn people away from truth."


Okay, Haz, I KNOW you're speaking out of your hat. Because I DO follow our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ. But remember one thing that He said to the children of Jacob, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

So, unless you have some source of information that shows up on your computer and says, specifically, Monk Brendan is a fake, you should retract ALL that you have called StrongAxe, Cluny, and myself.
---Monk_Brendan on 12/1/17


Haz27:

No, Hicks isn't my mentor. I just stumbled across his article years ago, and it explained so much that is going on, which is why I quote it.

Did you actually read the article? If so, how do you respond to the specific points he makes? If not, why do you expect me to read Horowitz who makes your point, if you won't read Hicks who makes mine?

Moderate socialism and moderate capitalism are both good. Extremes of both (communism and corporatism) are bad. Without socialism you would have only toll roads, "pay up or die" hospitals, "get lucky or die" foods and drugs with quality control enforced only by the market, etc.
---StrongAxe on 12/1/17


AXE. 1Cor 2:14 says natural man will not receive SPIRITUAL understanding.

You read Bible as a "natural" man. You're like Pharisee Nicodemus who thought born again meant to reenter mother's womb (John 3:4).

The Bible is like a parable. John 13:13-15
Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:

"Hearing you will hear and shall not understand,
And seeing you will see and not perceive"


Dont forget I'm still waiting to hear your reasoning for saying salvation is available based on deeds whilst denying Jesus is the Christ who died for our sin.
---Haz27 on 12/1/17


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MONK. Your last 2 posts ridiculing academics David Horowitz & Dinesh D'Sousa, just happen to parrot same derogatory remarks that I always hear from Leftists. Such imitation suggests you're in the Leftist bubble.
The Left always rely on ridicule to try to turn people away from truth.

AXE. If Brad Hicks is your mentor this explains why you have such flawed understanding

The Socialism/Communism you support is clearly one of the greatest evils (along with Islam) of man's flawed systems of government. The Rep's are clearly the lessor evil.
But that aside, the biggest evil threat is Satan himself, who seeks to turn people away from gospel of JC.

BTW, you still have not justified your salvation without Christ gospel.
---Haz27 on 11/30/17


Haz27:

You talk about taking scriptures that explicitly say one thing, then say they should be "spiritually discerned" to make them say something completely different. This is EXACTLY what Jesus condemned the Pharisees for doing, when they took the commandment "honor your father and your mother", and re-interpreted it to say that if someone pledged money to the temple (i.e. for spiritual purposes), that money was exempt from taking care of his parents - i.e. putting spiritual obligations above the obligations explicitly stated in black and white in the scripture.
---StrongAxe on 12/1/17


ax: "the party of Satan"

You have really lost it now. Anyone with half a brain would recognize the party of Satan as the one that:

Removes God from their party's platform

Forbids Christian prayer in public schools

Forbids display of the Ten Commandments on public grounds

Promotes atheism

Promotes abortion

Promotes sexual deviancy (LGBQT...)

Promotes violence and anarchy in the streets


That's you Democrats!




---Jerry6593 on 12/1/17


AXE. I checked out Brad Hicks, who you referred me too, and wow....! My advice is keep away from him.
He preaches a false gospel.

He's also a registered DEM (which really says a lot about how off the mark he is as a supposed Christian), hence his deceitful Socialist rants.

Reading several of his articles confirmed to me that he has no spiritual understanding.

BTW, have you thought maybe it's time you tried to justify your error gospel that salvation can be attained whilst denying Jesus is the Christ who died for our sin?
---Haz27 on 12/1/17


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AXE. You willfully disregard facts and figures that expose your side of politics for the great evil that it is. You go to great lengths to avoid cognitive dissonance, which is exactly what KGB Communist defector Yuri Bezmanov said the brainwashed, like you, would do.

Even Matt 25:31-46, you avoid discussing, even after I showed from scripture how it should be SPIRITUALLY discerned (1Cor 2:14), and I showed from scripture cross referencing how God describes the naked, hungry, thirsty, stranger, etc.

Seeing your flawed teaching of Matt 25 I'm at a loss as to what gospel you actually follow as I recall you suggested that salvation can be had even if a person willfully rejects Jesus as the Christ who died for our sin.
---Haz27 on 11/30/17


Haz27 said, "Check out academic Dinesh D'Sousa's recent publication titled:
The Big Lie. Exposing the NAZI Roots of the American Left"


I have read it, it is paranoid rubbish!
---Monk_Brendan on 11/30/17


Haz, I have now read about David Horowitz, and it looks like he's a loon, living in the same paranoid fantasy that you live in.

Must you always do what the voices tell you?
---Monk_Brendan on 11/30/17


Haz27:

Brad Hicks wrote a 5-part article titled "Christians in the hands of an angry God". Second link is Kim Chalister's similar article. wotj links to all 5 parts of Brad's at the end.

In the 1950s, Republicans believed Communism the greatest world threat, with only them to stop it. They HAD to control the U.S. government but needed Christian support to win. They seduced the church by altering their platform, and formed an unholy alliance.

He proves (with scripture) Christians who believe the bible is literally true MUST conclude Republican party platforms directly oppose Jesus's teachings, making it the party of Satan, and by allying with it, most American evangelicals have become the apostate church of Satan.
---StrongAxe on 11/30/17


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AXE. Ex Communist activist, the academic David Horowitz, wrote a book titled The Black Book of the American Left.

His book reveals how the Communist Left (which he formerly was a part of) entered the American mainstream media, universities, Hollywood, politics, etc, to manipulate and control it.

He said the heart and soul of the DEMs has been captured by the Communist Left, and that this communism is just like a religion.

Perhaps if you read this book it might help you to reconsider your trust in their propaganda narrative.
---Haz27 on 11/30/17


AXE. Ex Communist activist, the academic David Horowitz, wrote a book titled The Black Book of the American Left.

His book reveals how the Communist Left (which he formerly was a part of) entered the American mainstream media, universities, Hollywood, politics, etc, to manipulate and control it.

He said the heart and soul of the DEMs has been captured by the Communist Left, and that this communism is just like a religion.

Perhaps if you read this book it might help you to reconsider your trust in their propaganda narrative.
---Haz27 on 11/30/17


Haz27:

You quote Bezmanov MUCH more often than you ever quote Jesus. Whose disciple are you?

YOU Know about Australia. I don't. *I* live in the U.S. and know what it's like HERE. YOU don't. The wacko white-supremacists are predominantly Republicans here.

You wrote: The fact that you fail to understand scriptures like Matt 25:31-46

No, that's not a FACT. That's your OPINION.

I don't know why I bother even discussing anything with you anymore, since everything I say falls on deaf ears. You are totally oblivious even to specific facts and figures when they are laid out directly in front of you (and I'm not talking about vague rhetoric and opinions, which is what you are always quoting from your experts).
---StrongAxe on 11/29/17


ax: "You keep ignoring the fact that the poles shifted after the 1964 Civil Right's Act."

I ignore it because it's a LIE! If it weren't for lies, you collectivists wouldn't have anything to say.

Go back to Canada where they're making political speech a crime.



---Jerry6593 on 11/30/17


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AXE. Jerry is correct that you're stuck in Leftist bubble. Communist defectors Yuri Bezmanov and David Horowitz confirm this.

The Left in Australia are the racists just as they are in US, Canada, Europe, UK. The fact you can't see how BO caused racial unrest testifies how deceived you are.

The fact you fail to understand scripture like Matt 25:31-46 (leading me to wonder what strange gospel do you follow), and the fact that the Left heartlessly destroy lives of the needy who they use as political tools, proves how deceived you are.
---Haz27 on 11/29/17


Jerry6593:

"collectivist bubble"? Enough with the jingoistic lingo. I get that enough from Haz27 already.

Byrd was in the Klan for less than a year, mid-1942 to early 1943. He didn't even enter government until 1953. You keep ignoring the fact that the poles shifted after the 1964 Civil Right's Act. The KKK are Republicans NOW.

What specific racial strife did Obama forment? Other than daring to be an "uppity" black man in a white man's world, which made many racists' heads explode?

What Christians are supposed to support? Like feeding the poor and taking in refugees? Because it's the RIGHT who opposes THOSE things.
---StrongAxe on 11/29/17


MONK. You shouldn't trust Left's revisionist lies.
Look beyond Leftist sources of propaganda.

Check out academic Dinesh D'Sousa's recent publication titled:
The Big Lie. Exposing the NAZI Roots of the American Left

We see same in Australia. The Left dominate the megaphones of society and have conned most into accepting the Leftist revisionist lie of the Stolen Generation.

Honest historians have exposed this deceitful Leftist revisionism, yet most Australians are unaware of this as the establishment Left dominate the megaphones of public narrative.

George Orwell warned of this scenario of thought control by the establishment, in his novel 1984.
Don't continue to let them control you through lies.
---Haz27 on 11/29/17


Hitler was NOT a Socialist, which I have tried to point out several times, and the Mods keep moderating me, so I can't say my piece.
---Monk_Brendan on 11/29/17


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Well, if he was a socialist, I would say a lot of socialists are not interested in the methods he used to get what he believed in.

If you are a socialist . . .

therefore, what are you doing?

I think there is Biblical socialism, which means we share what we have with one another, to keep it very simple. And we do this in a family caring and sharing way, in God's love. And, but, we do this freely and cheerfully, not being forced or threatened or pressured by others who do this in God's way.
---Bill on 11/29/17


Jerry, the COL is not decided by a dem or rep president, BUT the economy, determined by certain factors that have been in place for a while. It jus so happens the cost of living increased this year therefore we get a COL raise in our SS check. However that 2% is totally taken up,by increased HEALTH CARE COSTS. We see NOTHING. So tell me what did Trump do to override that? Some will get a bump,but 70% will not.

Presidents DO NOT out of the kindness of their heart pull a percent out of the air and five to Seniors or Military or who ever is affected by a COLA increase.

Makes me wonder what other LIES Republicans believe.
---kathr4453 on 11/29/17


Sam: You must also live in the axster's collectivist bubble.

You say you can't abide a KKK-supporting Congressman, yet the only KKK member of Congress I recall was Robert Byrd - a DEMOCRAT.

You accuse me of supporting those who espouse racial hatred, yet it was your beloved Obama who made a career of fomenting racial strife. It is his Marxist doctrine of class warfare that is tearing our country apart.

As for Social Security, Obama suppressed our COL raises while his stupid policies caused our COL and medical expenses to skyrocket. Trump is giving us a long overdue COL increase, and is trying to erase the disastrous Obamacare.

Get a grip. The left opposes everything we Christians are supposed to support.

---Jerry6593 on 11/29/17


Loony1...too funny.....someone needs to tell Haz27....hahaha
---kathr4453 on 11/29/17


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Kathr

I was being facetious!
---Loony1 on 11/28/17


party had the word socialist in it, so he must have been radical left-wing Democrat.
---Loony1 on 11/27/17

So all socialistic countries are DEMOCRATS? Wow....that is NOT spot on.

Try again!

Also folks, don't look at the word democrat or republican....look at the content ......as even in Europe the more CONSERVATIVE party was actually DEMOCRAT in some cases.

Just like early America. Just like region.....southern DEMOCRATS were actually THE MORE CONSERVATIVE.
---kathr4453 on 11/28/17


"The name of Hitler's political party had the word socialist in it, so he must have been radical left-wing Democrat".--Loony1

Well spotted.
And welcome back.

Academic Dinesh D'Sousa said much the same as you did in his recent publication titled:
The Big Lie. Exposing the NAZI Roots of the American Left.
---Haz27 on 11/27/17


The name of Hitler's political party had the word socialist in it, so he must have been radical left-wing Democrat.
---Loony1 on 11/27/17


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AXE. We both refer to "experts" as they offer facts and interpretations. It's up to us to remain objective in assessing it.
Sadly, there's no fair, balanced public debate from such "experts" as the Left dominate megaphones of society (media, Hollywood, universities, politics).

Today, neo NAZIs, white supremacists are predominantly DEMs/Left. And its the Left who dominate public debate, thus thought, just as Leftist Hitler did.

God's Socialism (if thats what you want to call it) is in God's kingdom. Man's Socialism is a genocidal failure (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot).

SAMUELbb7. Again I ask why do you continue to support the side of politics that stands for racism, hate and bigotry?

---Haz27 on 11/27/17


Dear Jerry the Republican party left me. I was and would still like to be a moderate Republican. But I became to the party a Rino.

I cannot support those in office who support the KKK or Nazi's. Just as neither my dad or I joined the John Birch Society. I will not help the Alt Right.

I live in Houston Texas. I used to drive by a KKK building. But no more. Houston is mostly tolerant and opposes race hatred.

So tell me Jerry why do you support those who preach race hatred?

I knew Trump lied when he said he would help the middle class. He is working to tear down Medicare and Social Security. How is that helping?
---Samuelbb7 on 11/27/17


Haz27:

Slavery and "separate but equal" were entirely in the south. There is racism everywhere, but there is more in the south than elsewhere. It's in the roots of plantation culture, and these things take a long time to get over. (You dredge up the past, so can I.)

TODAY, American neo-nazis and white supremacists are tea party Republicans. In Gemany TODAY, neo-nazis are extreme RIGHT.

The evil of Nazis and Communists was not SOCIALISM (which the early church practiced), but STATISM - the worship of state as God. Corporations hurt under socialism, but flourish under corporatism. Companies like Benz, Volkswagen, Farben got big boosts under the Nazis.

Stop quoting "experts" and look at ACTUAL FACTS.
---StrongAxe on 11/27/17


AXE. Step out of that Leftist echo chamber.
The south is made up of different areas, so just as Jerry said, the Left's propaganda about racism is just not there.

Listening to a recent speech by academic Dinesh D'Sousa, he detailed how the DEMs lie about the south, neglecting to show how the areas the REPs won over are in fact the less racist places.

The fact still remains it's YOUR side of politics who are the racists, and liars.

We see same in Australia. It's the Left who are racists. Plenty of examples I can give from over here of the Left's racism.
---Haz27 on 11/27/17


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Haz27:

Yes, third world countries are even more racist, but we aren't talking about them, and you know it. We're talking about politics in the U.S. Stop spouting your right-wing propaganda and actually LOOK at the NUMBERS, which I showed in my previous message.

In the U.S., most racism is in the south. Yes, those states were Democratic in the past, but they have consistently voted REPUBLICAN in the past half century. Who cares what happened long before any of us were born? I'm talking about what is going on HERE, NOW, and what politicians HERE, NOW stand for, and what voters HERE, NOW are voting into power. I don't call you a criminal because Australians a few centuries ago were all criminals. Wake up and smell the 21st century.
---StrongAxe on 11/26/17


little ax: "Racism is STILL predominantly in the south."

That's it, believe what your Marxist controllers tell you to believe. Like Nicole, I live in the South - always have. You, on the other hand, are a foreigner who lives in a collectivist bubble. I know what I see, and it's not what you claim. I could just as easily claim that all Canadians are socialist fools, but I would not have any credibility, since I'm not Canadian. You have no credibility here!


Sam: The issue is not Dem. vs. Rep., but rather liberal vs. conservative. In the words of Reagan, "I did not leave the Democrat Party, the Democrat Party left me."


---Jerry6593 on 11/27/17


AXE. The World Value Survey found that the most racist countries in the world were the likes of India, middle east and some African nations.
In contrast Western nations were amongst the least racist.

In Western nations racism is predominantly of the Left, such as the DEMs. And racism has long been a trademark of the Left considering it's history with the KKK and Nazism.

I suggest you reconsider your choice in siding with the racist side of politics.
---Haz27 on 11/26/17


Nicole said, "
Monk, don't go by what someone tells you what Nazism is or reports to be, but WHAT OR HOW THEY BEHAVED.

Look up the word 'Socialism'.

Online Dictionary:"


Nicole, you tell me to look at what they did/do, and not at what someone tells me is the truth.

Then you point to a dictionary. This makes no sense at all.

noun, plural Nazis.
1.
a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, which controlled Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler and advocated totalitarian government, territorial expansion, anti-Semitism, and Aryan supremacy, all these leading directly to World War II and the Holocaust.
---Monk_Brendan on 11/26/17


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Hasn't ANYONE taken political science in high school?
---Monk_Brendan on 11/26/17


Jerry6593:

Do the research yourself. Yes, the racist south WAS mostly Democrats, but look at it NOW. Racism is STILL predominantly in the south. Look at maps of voter demographics in ALL elections after the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The south is predominantly RED states. The ONLY exceptions were 1976 when voters vomited out Nixon's corruption, and 1968 where racist Wallace took 5 states, proving my point.

Trump 2016: All but VA.
Obama 2012: All but VA+FL. 2008: All but VA+FL+NC.
W. Bush 2004,2000: All.
Clinton 1996: All. 1992: All but AR+TN+GA+LA.
Bush 1988: All.
Reagan 1984: All. 1980: All but GA.
Carter 1976: Only VA.
Nixon 1972: All. 1968: All but TX (and AR+MS+AL+GA+LA for Wallace).
---StrongAxe on 11/26/17


SAMMUEL. Seems you have a degree in Leftist brainwashing, considering your false Leftist revisionist claims you rely on.

Hitler was a SOCIALIST, as his own writings show. He described himself as such most of the time, whilst only on rare occasions referring to himself as Fascist (after all he did admire the Fascism of his fellow Leftist Mussolini).

The Left/DEM's NAZI Brown Shirts today are ANTIFA (another example of Orwellian double think labels), and the racist BLM. We have the Left's ANTIFA Fascists here in Australia too. They even physically assault the elderly.

SAMMUEL, It's YOUR side of politics who are the NAZIs & Fascists. It's still not too late for you to take the red pill back to reality.

---Haz27 on 11/26/17


First Jerry My degree is in History. Hitler was a Fascist not a socialist. Socialist under Hitler were executed or worked to death. Socialism in it's extreme form is Communism.

Hitler and Mussolini were Fascist.

Do a web search on Hitler and Socialism it will show you are wrong.

Obama didn't have Brown Shirts. Those are Nazi's which Trump has said have good guys along with KKK members. Both those groups endorsed Trump.

Trump wants to help churches take over the U. S. Government by letting them be political bodies and eliminating in effect the Separation of church and State.

So Jerry you want to help Trump start Armageddon?
---Samuelbb7 on 11/26/17


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ax: "Nazism was NOT sociaslism [sic]."

YES IT WAS!

You "sociaslists" are so blinded by your historical revisionism that you actually believe that people who called themselves socialists (Nazis) actually were not - and that people who called themselves racist (Democrats) were not - they just switched with the Republicans. Are you Obama Brown Shirts that naive about everything?



Haz: Great history lesson! Too bad facts are irrelevant to our Marxist friends.


---Jerry6593 on 11/26/17


Nicole_Lacey:

Yes, we know what Socialism is. Nazism was NOT sociaslism. They called themselves socialist, but they were not. They were NATIONALIST. Just like most Communist countries call themselves "XYZ People's Democratic Republic", even though they are nowhere close to being democratic, since the people have no choice in anything at all.
---StrongAxe on 11/25/17


AXE. The NATIONAL Socialists of 1930s Germany won government over their main rival the INTERNATIONAL Socialists (Communists).

Such family infighting is seen often in other ideologies, example: the family of Islam (Sunni vs Shia).
Thus we see the Lefts revisionist claims that somehow NATIONAL Socialists (NAZI) are on the opposite of the political spectrum to INTERNATIONAL Socialists, is nothing more than lies.

Interestingly the Communists who left Germany after NAZIs won government, they went to USA and set up the Frankfurt school, from whence much of the brainwashing youve received was founded upon.
---Haz27 on 11/25/17


StrongAxe: Corporatism is far RIGHT. Coincidentally, we are seeing that kind of thing happening in the U.S. today.//

I don't think so. Silicone Valley is so far Left it's ridiculous.

Facebook, Amazon, Google, Apple, and Microsoft's Owners all admit they are Leftists.

8 out of 10 of the wealthiest men in America are Democrats.

//Also, laws are being skewed to help the rich and large corporations, at the expense of the middle and lower classes//

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

Only rich people create jobs.

Have you ever heard of the saying: 'A rising tide lifts all boats'?

It means as they get richer so do you.

You need to mediate on Luke 3:14

Envy is a deadly sin.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/17


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\\MONK. I suggest you look beyond Wiki. Wiki even admit they are not a reliable source. \\

Haz, you don't actually think that YOU are a reliable source, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/25/17


Monk, don't go by what someone tells you what Nazism is or reports to be, but WHAT OR HOW THEY BEHAVED.

Look up the word 'Socialism'.

Online Dictionary:

Socialism- a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the MEANS of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

synonyms: leftism - welfarims - radicalism - progressivism - social democracy

*(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

Only the Left in this Country LOVES Communism not the Right.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/17


Mussolini invented the term Fascism. He called it a mixture of statism and corporatism. Corporatism is far RIGHT. Coincidentally, we are seeing that kind of thing happening in the U.S. today. Rah rah "Make AMERICA great" rah rah. Also, laws are being skewed to help the rich and large corporations, at the expense of the middle and lower classes - i.e. favoring corporations over people. This is corporatism to a tee.


Nicole_Lacey:

Hitler HATED Communism. It was the Big Enemy of Nazism.
---StrongAxe on 11/25/17


MONK. I suggest you look beyond Wiki. Wiki even admit they are not a reliable source.

I told you before,
NAZI = SOCIALIST German Workers Party.
Hitler s writings shows he was greatly influenced by Marx.
Hitler admired Marxism and Mussolinis Fascism (also Leftist), but thought his Socialism was better.

The Leftists Hitler and Mussolini recognized that NATIONAL Socialism had more appeal to the people than INTERNALTIONAL Socialism (Communism).

Instead of relying on the lies of Leftist revisionists, I suggest you check what other academics say about NAZI Left.
A recent publication by academic Dinesh DSousa titled The Big Lie. Exposing the NAZI roots of the American Left, might be a good start for you.
---Haz27 on 11/25/17


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"National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism is the ideology and set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party, Nazi Germany and other FAR-RIGHT GROUPS

Haz, Nicole, how do you explain the above, when Wikipedia says Nazis are far right?

Oh, that's right Wikipedia and all of the other sources I have read/viewed/heard of are all LEFTIST, right?

What source would YOU recommend for me to read how the Nazis are really leftist?
---Monk_Brendan on 11/25/17


Nicole said, "Monk, I thought you claimed to know about Socialism?...Socialism is light Communism.

Hitler was on the Left."


From Wikipedia "National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism is the ideology and set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party, Nazi Germany and other far-right groups. Usually characterized as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and antisemitism, Nazism's development was influenced by German nationalism, the Vlkisch movement and the anti-Communist Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged during the Weimar Republic after Germany's defeat in the First World War."
---Monk_Brendan on 11/25/17


Monk, I thought you claimed to know about Socialism?

Hitler was a Socialist.

He believed in the collective over the individual.

He forced all youth into the Hitler youth army. Even Emeritus Pope Benedict XVI was forced but escaped.

Socialism is light Communism.

Hitler was on the Left.

He even got his euthanasia ideas from our own President Woodrow Wilson. And he was our first Proclaimed Progressive Left President.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/17


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