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Does "Left" automatically mean "Evil?"
Does "Right automatically mean "Good?"

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---Haz27 on 12/7/17

You have never answered the question... Its a simple question. What would you do to stop abortion?

You claim to have answered the question... PROVE IT.. Post the blog, response and date..

If I am wrong, I will apologize. IF Im right... well, that says a lot, doesn't it.
---NurseRobert on 12/8/17


\\So you are saying you are against the people who voted with you for Trump. \\

Samuel, Haz27 lives in Australia, so s/he could not have voted in any US election.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/8/17


Haz27 said, "MONK. You've been in the Leftist bubble too long, hence you too use the Left's "victim card" tactic.

I suggest you debate honestly rather than pulling such stunts. You have the opportunity here on CN to learn how to deal with your anger problems when confronted with facts and arguments that disrupt your world view."


And you are so far in DENIAL that you can't see truth when it is right in front of you!

And what Victim Card did I use?
I am not YOUR victim! The only one oppressed by YOUR victimhood is YOU
---Monk_Brendan on 12/8/17


So Haz you wish to support the Peace loving Nazi's and the alt right. Along with the KKK?

Yes the left should be more tolerant.

The far left is as crazy as the far right. I will also agree too.

So why support the Extremist on any side?

Let us love everyone and follow Jesus.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/8/17


MONK. You've been in the Leftist bubble too long, hence you too use the Left's "victim card" tactic.

I suggest you debate honestly rather than pulling such stunts. You have the opportunity here on CN to learn how to deal with your anger problems when confronted with facts and arguments that disrupt your world view.

As for the wedding cake issue, justice Kennedy in the ongoing case of those Christian bakers, criticized Colorado's PC Leftist commissioners saying:
"It seems to me that the state in its position here has been neither tolerant nor respectful of Mr. Phillips religious beliefs" .

I suggest you stop supporting the Christian hating Left's PC bigotry and hate.

---Haz27 on 12/7/17




Haz the KKK and Nazi's voted for Trump. They opposed the Democrats.

So while when I was growing up here in the south. To support the KKK you had to be a Democrat. Now they have switched sides.

While I love History. We live today.

Remember David Duke a KKK leader endorsed Trump.

So you are saying you are against the people who voted with you for Trump.

Please explain how that works?
---Samuelbb7 on 12/8/17


Dear Haz. What lies of the left have I repeated?

Trump promised to not cut Social Security or Medicare. But does he not in the Tax law work to cut them?

Trump bragged on abusing women and admitted to it. Now he says it was not him on tape. He is constantly lying. So why should I believe him who says among the Nazis are many good guys.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/8/17


Haz27 said, "MONK. Considering how you always mindlessly repeat what your PC Leftist masters tell you to say, then I'll continue to repeat facts that expose the Leftist lies you choose to believe."

Haz, thank you for persecuting me. You too Nicole. You are just adding more jewels into my crown.
---Monk_Brendan on 12/7/17


MONK. Considering how you always mindlessly repeat what your PC Leftist masters tell you to say, then I'll continue to repeat facts that expose the Leftist lies you choose to believe.
---Haz27 on 12/7/17


Haz27 said, "You ignore the fact the Left dominate megaphones of society (Media, universities, Hollywood, politics), where they disallow the likes of D'Sousa opportunity to expose Left's lies.

You ignore ex Communists (Bezmanov & Horowitz), and the fact based FBI book "The Naked Communist", that warn of Marxist Left's efforts to dominate these megaphones of society so they can deceive people like you."


Blather, rinse, repeat!

Haz, you've repeated yourself too many times. Pick on somebody that cares about what you say.
---Monk_Brendan on 12/7/17




NURSE. Hmm...bearing false witness again?

Interesting that Obamasboy gave a very similar answer to both my original answer, and my most recent repetition of that answer (that you deceitfully claim I never gave), yet you acknowledged his answer and not mine.

Embarrassed? Ashamed?
You should be.

Your tactic of deflection, obfuscation and deceit suggests you're trying to avoid being cornered into having to defend the Left over it's genocide, etc.

I suggest you choose an honest, objective approach to facts, and discard your emotional attachment to the Left that distorts you.
---Haz27 on 12/7/17


Right or Left, it all seems to end up as hate speech. Dont believe me, read your posts. Why dont you folks try talking more about that which unites us, instead of that which divides us. More importantly, who do you suppose creates hate through division? Remember folks, it was a division that caused the war in Heaven. I ask you to just think about it.


(Luke 11:17) Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and a house divided against a house falleth.
---David on 12/7/17


No, Haz, you haven't. You continually hide behind your deflections. Its a simple question. What would you do to stop abortion?
---NurseRobert on 12/7/17


SAMUEL. Your support for the Fascist Left with it's racism, hate, genocide, sexism and bigotry, is hardly going to place you in "the middle" as you hope to portray yourself as.

Even many within parties like the REPs are Left leaning, that's how far the political spectrum has shifted to the Left.

I suggest you stop supporting the modern day Left as they're not much different to what their forefathers (Nazism, Stalinism, KKK, etc) were like.
---Haz27 on 12/6/17


Both the left and the right are yelling as loud as they can.

The problem with the Republicans is they were taken over by the far right. While the Democrats have their far left to contend with.

Pity those of us. Who like the middle.

The Problem with the far right is they join with the KKK and the Alt Right Hitler fans.

True the far left liked Communism. But that failed. No one is trying to bring it back.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/6/17


NURSE. Ahh...once again you bring up the issue of abortion (which I at least answered), the very topic you have so long avoided answering through your trademark deflection and obfuscation.

It's obvious you refuse to deal honestly with this topic because it would further expose the Left as heartless liars, which then makes you look bad for supporting the Left.

Obamasboy rightly described you as being part of the problem because you're content to continue to support and defend the heartless Left regardless of their genocide of the unborn.



---Haz27 on 12/6/17


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---Haz27 on 12/6/17

I'm surprised you aren't quoting John Birch...

Your right wing puppet masters would be proud of you. Trying reading something other than right wing propaganda.

Oh, and BTW, what would YOU do to prevent abortion?
---NurseRobert on 12/6/17


NURSE. As usual no facts or reasoning from you. Only deflection, obfuscation.

You ignore the fact the Left dominate megaphones of society (Media, universities, Hollywood, politics), where they disallow the likes of D'Sousa opportunity to expose Left's lies.

You ignore ex Communists (Bezmanov & Horowitz), and the fact based FBI book "The Naked Communist", that warn of Marxist Left's efforts to dominate these megaphones of society so they can deceive people like you.

Thus for you, self professed SOCIALIST Lefty Hitler, influenced by Marxism, pushing Socialist ideals, must somehow be far right simply because your Lefty puppet masters who dominate the megaphones of society, told you so.



---Haz27 on 12/6/17


Haz, Are my facts biased?
Yeah, probably, just like what you post is biased. You present your "facts" as truth, truth as YOU see it, and you ignore other sources because they don't fit into your biased ideas.

But, please, keep on..
---NurseRobert on 12/5/17


NURSE. What you Lefties rely upon to avoid the discomfort of cognitive dissonance when confronted with facts is CONFIRMATION BIAS (not conformational as you wrote).

Lefties also deny fair, rational public debate where FACTS are presented.
Hence the likes of DSousa, etc, get ridiculed, lied about and denied a voice on the megaphones of society ( media, etc) that Leftists dominate.

George Orwell warned this type of totalitarian PC society would eventuate. He said: In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act

The Lefts PC propaganda lies through its dominance of media, Hollywood, universities, politics, etc, and its thought policing, confirms we are in such times of universal deceit.
---Haz27 on 12/5/17


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---Haz27 on 12/4/17

And what conformational bias from the right do you use? D'Sousa? You want to use sources that spew the same old right winger garbage and get into a tizzy when the rest of us choose not to drink your koolaid. Have you ever come up with an original though?

Go ahead, Haz, no one takes you serious anymore.
---NurseRobert on 12/5/17


NURSE. Not surprised Lefties like you rely on reassuring serves of confirmation bias from the Leftist echo chamber to continue to avoid the discomfort of cognitive dissonance when confronted by facts.
Your former Lefty comrade, the KGB Communist defector Yuri Bezmanov, warned you would do this.

Apart from the Left's trademark tactics of ridicule and lies against opponents (instead of rational public debate offering facts), the academic Dinesh D'Sousa also is avoided by Leftist dominated public platforms such as media, etc. The Left simply don't want facts getting out on public megaphones exposing the Left's revisionist lies.







---Haz27 on 12/4/17


---Monk_Brendan on 12/4/17
Haz would have you (in his plagerized well worn, tired saying) "step out of the echo chamber". He wants you to read D'Souza new book The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left. Problem is D'Souza is a right wing apologist described by one reviewer as "a hack. Even his best material basically just rehashes Jonah Goldbergs Liberal Fascism from 10 years ago, and because DSouza has become a professional deceiver, what he adds are extraordinary elisions, sweeping calumnies and laughable leaps."

Read "The Anatomy of Fascism" by Robert O. Paxton instead.
---NurseRobert on 12/4/17


MONK. NAZIs are clearly SOCIALISTS (i.e Lefties).
This is a fact that deceitful Leftist revisionists always twist, arguing without any foundation that somehow a Socialist is not a Socialist.

Hitler routinely described himself as Socialist.

NAZI = National SOCIALIST German Workers Party.

Hitler's writings showed he was greatly influenced by Marxism.

MONK, step out of the Leftist echo chamber of lies. You'll be glad you did.
---Haz27 on 12/4/17


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Jerry 6593 said, "Monk: You are completely wrong about the neo-NAZIs being republican. There was none of that in the TEA Party movement. All of the radical anarchists and mass murderers were registered Democrats. They are the ones without God - not Republicans."

Again, I'm sorry you feel that way, but even though you are blinded to the Truth, most neo-Nazis are so far to the RIGHT, that they may LOOK leftist

Left and Right are descriptions of POLITICAL temperament. Extremists on both sides use political pressure, lies, torture, terrorism and death/and or suicide, so they may APPEAR to be right when they are left, or vice versa.
---Monk_Brendan on 12/4/17


Monk Brendan, you said something like that leftist people can be doing more for needy people.

Is this because they love people, or can it be because a number of leftist people love votes? . . . though not all, I would say.

And I have offered how certain very evil people will be chameleons . . . using a group for their predating and using people for what they want.

Therefore, I would get to know each member of a group and let each one have an opportunity to speak for oneself, and not assume I was being told the truth! (c:
---Bill on 12/2/17


Contrary to what some people think, Christianity does NOT come with a political or social platform.

Our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ Himself said, "My Kingdom is NOT of this world."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/1/17


Haz27 said, " MONK. I've shown you multiple times how the NAZI's and KKK are clearly of the DEMs/Left."

And YOU are so deluded and LEFTIST yourself that you make them appear on the RIGHT!

After all, you have offered no proof to me that you are NOT a leftist.

Indeed, your harping on the Left is just Commie/Red propaganda to make us believe that you are a born again Christian. Will everyone that Haz has told that they are the least left-leaning give me a big Amen!
---Monk_Brendan on 12/1/17


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MONK. I've shown you multiple times how the NAZI's and KKK are clearly of the DEMs/Left.

Please get out of that Leftist echo chamber of lies.
Seek the truth, instead.
Do some real, OBJECTIVE, research, instead of trusting deceitful Leftist revisionists.

The truth will set you free from the Left's control over you.
---Haz27 on 12/1/17


Monk: You are completely wrong about the neo-NAZIs being republican. There was none of that in the TEA Party movement. All of the radical anarchists and mass murderers were registered Democrats. They are the ones without God - not Republicans.



---Jerry6593 on 12/1/17


Haz 27 said, "The Left are SOCIALISTS.
NAZIs are NATIONAL Socialists.
Communists are INTERNATIONAL Socialists."


HAZ, haven't you read ONE WORD that I've posted? NAZIs, the Klan, Skinheads, etc. are all far right groups, farther right than you're willing to understand. Read some of the things I've posted--look at a couple of Encyclopedias, read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich!" Go to your favorite bookstore. Some of it, I'm sure is posted online.

PLEASE PLEASE do some real research, and learn what the ultra right are all about!
---Monk_Brendan on 11/30/17


When someone looked into Trump BRAGGING about his charitable giving, no one could find any facts. And with Trump not disclosing his tax records, there is no proof. I bet he is hiding his taxes from the public BECAUSE again he is a liar, and brags about HIS VERY BIG..BIGGER THAN ANYONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD charitable giving. As a matter of fact, many of those charities who Trump has claimed he is either going to give to or claimed he gave to,in the past....state they never have received any money. And that $25,000 promised to a family who's son died in the war....said they never got it, and ONLY after the news SHAMED TRUMP, he sent it....after the fact. The only proof you have is Trumps bragging......and that holds no weight.
---kathr4453 on 11/30/17


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When I read where the most money is collected by the Salvation Army in the U.S. It is at poor and middle class neighborhoods. They give more. -Samuelbb7

Conservative poor and middle class who work. Non-working liberal poor are usually the recipients of the charity.

The conservative rich give less -Samuelbb7
Completely false. Tax records indicate the conservative rich give more to Charity than anyone. The liberal rich give the least. Mitt Romney and Donald Trump give massive amounts to Charity. Obama gave a far smaller percentage of his income to the poor. The Clinton's gave only to themselves and claimed it as a tax deductible charitable contributions.
---ObamasBoy on 11/30/17


Samuel. You are supporting NAZIs and KKK, because you support the SOCIALIST Left from where they come from.

BTW, the label "alt right" to describe NAZI's is just more Leftist lies just like the Left's lies about the "Big Switch", or Nazism being far right.


As for Conservatives being more charitable than Lefties, that has been found to be true.
American Enterprise Institute president Arthur C. Brooks made a comprehensive study of how charitable giving correlates to political orientation, And he found that all the evidence, suggests that conservatives are in fact more generous than progressives.
He also found that the more religious a person is, the more likely it is that they will give to charity.
---Haz27 on 11/30/17


SAMUELbb7. Why are the Left NAZIs?

The Left are SOCIALISTS.
NAZIs are NATIONAL Socialists.
Communists are INTERNATIONAL Socialists.

The Socialist Left family has schisms, just as is seen in Christianity also.

The cultural Marxist DEMs are INTERNATIONAL Socialists, which explains in part why they oppose the now insignificant NATIONAL Socialists (Neo NAZIs).

But the main reason why the cultural Marxist DEMs attack their fellow Socialists, the Neo NAZIs, is simply to deceive the naive with revisionist lies claiming the Left's Nazism is somehow far right.

Likewise the DEMs KKK "Big Switch" which is another Big Lie from the Leftist DEMs.



---Haz27 on 11/30/17


Sam: You seem to be hopelessly indoctrinated by leftist ideologues. Studies have consistently shown that conservatives are much more generous in charitable giving than political liberals.

What is it that you love about Democrats? The abortions? The sexual perversion? The rioting and stealing? The anti-Christian tactics?

It is the Obama "Brown Shirts" of Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter and Antifa fame that most closely resemble Hitler's civilian army. The Soros rent-a-mob bused in to disrupt orderly society is Hitler's legacy - not for-profit corporations.



---Jerry6593 on 11/30/17


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Samuel, During WWll , because of German NATIONALISM, the Christian churches in Germany all became the Church of the Third Reich, except for a handful. They TOO were misled into believing NATIONALISM and Christianity were the same. HERE in the USA, ( you would THINK history would NOT repeat itself, ) this same mentality from a growing number of supposed Christian churches. I've been watching this since the 70-80's. It began with Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority, sponsored by the Likes of FOX,( Very RCC) and now is growing. But DISCERNING Christians are not buying it.

And what's astounding is how many people THINK they are Christian just because they like and follow FOX and are Republican. Shocking.
---kathr4453 on 11/30/17


The same BULLYING TACTICS the Germans used is the same BULLYING tactics Haz27, and others here use against those who JUST DONT help promote this ALT RIGHT mentality. And they think they are fooling everyone by twisting the facts where THEY are the KKK Nazi Nationalism Mentality who hides behind APOSTATE Christianity.

My question is.....is this how the anti_Christ is going to come into power? I ask that because so many actually thought Hitler WAS the anti_Christ. And why is this country profiting off ARMS we're selling to countries who are not BFF with Israel? Is anyone paying attention to that, OR is all this diversion with tweets ,scandals, Russia Tax reform, health reform keeping folks from really seeing what is going on.
---kathr4453 on 11/30/17


When I read where the most money is collected by the Salvation Army in the U.S. It is at poor and middle class neighborhoods. They give more.

The conservative rich give less. Conservative Christians give more on average. But my problem is not conservative Christians are allying themselves with Nazi's. The so called alt right is just Nazi's under a new name.

So I don't know how the left can be Nazi's when the Nazi's oppose them. Along with the KKK. It saddens me to see Evangelicals align with the KKK and Nazi's.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/29/17


AXE. Obamasboy and Jerry rebutted your false arguments very well. Read their posts again.

The Left is the establishment, as Obamasboy explained. The Left dominate the megaphones of society (media, Hollywood, universities, politics), so even with Trump in office, the Left remain the establishment.
We see same in Australia. A Right wing government still manipulated by Leftist establishment.

Safe Schools was raised as an additional issue to abortion to show Lefties here how distorted their feigned selective outrage over lessor issues about REPs is.

MONK. You fail to understand Matt 25:31-46. Anyway, the Left don't help the needy. Instead they destroy their lives, whilst using them as tools for political gain.
---Haz27 on 11/29/17


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who is feeding the poor, clothing the naked, and doing all the things that He commanded us to do -Monk Brendan

Conservatives. No one gives more of their own money to Charity and the poor and need than conservatives do! Liberals lobby for other people's money to given to them. Liberals give very little out of their own pockets to the poor. They just support welfare programs than take money from working Americans and give it to people who don't work. That's not Charity. That's theft.
---ObamasBoy on 11/29/17


ObamasBoy:

Please explain how this can be, given that Congress is the ONLY group empowered to make laws, and the Executive branch enforces those laws according to how its leaders dictate? Trump has been systematically replacing Obama's leaders with his own ultra-CONSERVATIVE picks like Besty Devos and Ajit Pai, who are systematically dismantling everything Obama accomplished. You call these people LIBERALS?!

Establishment makes policies that favor the status quo, e.g. gerrymandering that favors the party in power (predominantly Republicans), and the wealthy (i.e. the top 1%) to keep their wealth, e.g. trickle-down economics that pours money into the top where it's supposed to trickle down, but instead just accumulates at the top.
---StrongAxe on 11/29/17


To those that say that only the "Right" is good, and that "Leftists" are only bad, let's look at a few examples.

What about Jim and Tammy overselling their condos? What about Jimmy Swaggart, who rails against LJBT, and then is caught in a hotel room with a woman not his wife, her posing and him pleasuring himself

On the other hand, who is feeding the poor, clothing the naked, and doing all the things that He commanded us to do--mostly left of center organizations and a few churches that most Protestants don't think are Christian.
---Monk_Brendan on 11/29/17


Each person can speak for oneself, about what he or she means by being "left" or "right".

In any case, I need to first be an example of admitting to how I can be wrong, but also get real correction > Hebrews 12:4-11.

I am wrong, by welcoming opportunities to look down on others who are exposed for things they have done. I need to first respond with compassion of caring prayer with hope for any wrong person . . . while, like I say, I am busy with being an example of honesty by pointing out how I can be wrong, and getting real correction of God > Hebrews 12:4-11.
---Bill on 11/29/17


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I have to wonder why this new Tax law change does not support small business, but it does for large business. WHY? IF the incentive is to bring back corps from overseas...BUT overseas not only enjoys lower taxes, but also lower pay for workers, what other incentive is there?...

HERE is where American businesses are ALREADY supporting American workers. Major Corps are not going to come back here even with lower taxes UNLESS they can also pay slave wages .....which........watch out.....may be another Trump inforces.....again not giving REP that feel good feeling that only REP look out for the working class. NO THEY DONT. And if it passes just may put the small business owner out of business.
---kathr4453 on 11/29/17


StrongAxe, the US government is very much liberal, regardless of who is president or in Congress. The vast majority of government is made up of unelected liberal beurocrats who outnumber our elected leaders several to one. These are the people writing policy and legislation that effect the average American. And even Trump is highly liberal by any normal standards. He's just not lunatic level liberal like the Democrat party is now.

Somehow you think business owners and individuals making decisions about their own activities to be more establishment than the government forcing them to do things against their will? No one is forced to do business with a corporation they don't agree with.
---ObamasBoy on 11/29/17


Haz27:

When has ANYONE BUT YOU mentioned "Safe schools" here?

The Left is the establishment? When the Right controls President AND house AND senate AND Supreme Court?!


ObamasBoy:

If Corporations support freedom to believe and make one's own moral decisions, why do they Pharisaically shove thier beliefs down everyone's throats (e.g. opposing LGBT marriage, which SHOULD be up to the participants, not anyone else's business)? The conservatives' moral agenda has had the upper hand for centuries, and when the pendulum starts to tilt the other way for only a few years, their scream about being oppressed.
---StrongAxe on 11/28/17


ax: The Jesus I worship was no hippie Democrat! He never stole from one person to give to another (while skimming a good chunk for Himself). He asked for voluntary (love actuated) social workers. He didn't seek the help of Roman soldiers to enforce His doctrines. He never supported abortion, deviant sex, etc. as Democrats do.


---Jerry6593 on 11/29/17


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Ya know, if we were living in some fantasy world where Republicans were all practicing Christians where GREED was inconceivable, then yes, less Government would be fine. But since we already have on record HOW THE RICH abused the poor, North and South, locking women in the Shirtwaste Factory , no fire hazard or safety laws etc, ...where HOW MAY DIED, because NO ONE HAD LAWS PROTECTING people from these RICH REPUBLICAN CAPITALISTS. And today isn't any different. You start taking away oversight, SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WILL SUFFER.

There is nothing wrong with Government oversight and laws protecting people, land, environment..etc. I guess that makes me a LEFTY. I'll wear that.
---kathr4453 on 11/29/17


Lots of hyperbole floating around this place.
---Loony1 on 11/28/17


Where is this world you live in, StrongAxe? Liberal progressives are the ones who use the government to punish anyone who doesn't conform to their beliefs or twisted moral code. They are the ones pushing for more laws that punish people who don't think like they do. Conservatives oppose government intrusion into your personal life. Conservatives support the freedom to believe and make your own moral decisions without punishment. If a conservative doesn't agree with your lifestyle, they simply avoid you. Conservatives don't care if you believe like them, so long as they aren't forced to believe like you. Using the strong arm of the law to force people to conform to their belief system is what the Pharisees did.
---ObamasBoy on 11/28/17


AXE. To support the "Safe schools" program is to support what's really behind that misleading label, which is Marxist LGBTQI deviancy indoctrination, bullying and child abuse.

"Safe schools" is just another example of Orwellian double think.
"Safe schools", ANTIFA, BLM, Human Rights Commissions, etc, are titles that represent the opposite of what they proclaim, much like Orwell's ministry of Truth, or Love, or Plenty, in his novel 1984.

---Haz27 on 11/28/17


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"The right is traditionally pro-establishment, and for the Powers That Be.

The left is traditionally anti-establishment, and for the common people."
---StrongAxe on 11/27/17


Lol. You have that COMPLETELY backwards. Conservatives believe in a small government (some people even call us anti-government) and fewer regulations and less establishment. Liberals are for big government, more laws, more regulations, more establishment, and more government control.
---ObamasBoy on 11/27/17


AXE. The Left today is the establishment, just as it was under Nazism, Stalinism, Maoism, etc.

And the Left today heartlessly uses the "common people", as tools for their own political gain. The DEMs a classic example, having the support and funding of the "powers that be". Fortunately Trump still won in spite of this.

Your analogy of Jesus with the Left is disparaging of Jesus. The Left are heartless, genocidal liars, as proven both historically (Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, etc), and today with its abortion, Fake News media, etc.

I suggest you don't liken Jesus to the Right or Left. Man's flawed systems of government can only be described as a lessor evil and greater evil.
---Haz27 on 11/27/17


No. There are some things Republicans do that I still approve of. The Democrats do some good and others are not feasible and bad for the country.

But when both sides refuse to work for the good of the people instead of just trying to on the right appease the rich and on the left go overboard.

The county suffers. If both sides would work to compromise for the good of the American People. That is what is the right thing to do.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/27/17


Jerry6593:

You wrote: RIGHT IS RIGHT and LEFT IS WRONG!

The right is traditionally pro-establishment, and for the Powers That Be.

The left is traditionally anti-establishment, and for the common people.

2000 years ago, the self-righteous establishment Pharisees were the archetypical right, and anti-establish hippie Jesus was the archetypical left. Guess which side the Bible favors?


Haz27:

The Nazis were right to fight the communists, but threw out the baby with the bath water - i.e. they worshipped the state as God.

You keep accusing Monk_Brendan of supporting "LGBTQI deviancy indoctrination and abuse of children", but when did he every say that? Be specific.
---StrongAxe on 11/27/17


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RIGHT IS RIGHT and LEFT IS WRONG!
---Jerry6593 on 11/27/17


MONK. My criticisms are valid. When you support the Marxist lie of "Safe Schools" LGBTQI deviancy indoctrination and abuse of children, then I'll continue to confront you about it. Debate if you will, but don't pull the victim card in doing so.

Again you quoted Leftist leaning Newsweek. I suggest you look beyond Leftist propaganda lies.

Germany's NATIONAL Socialists (NAZIs) were fighting for power with Germany's INTERNATIONAL Socialists (Communists), just as Sunni Muslims fight Shia Muslims.

Variants within same ideology experience infighting when it comes down to which groups within that ideology seek to dominate it. Pretty obvious really, hence you can stop believing the Left's revisionist lies.

---Haz27 on 11/26/17


Haz27 said, MONK. The best counselor for Christians is Jesus, who we call counsellor ISA 9:6. Best we trust in him instead of this world's shrinks, etc. God is doing a work in Christians and will perform it (Phil 1:6). Trust Him to do it.

And I have indeed spent hours with my face to the floor in prayer, repentance, and then still more time listening to Him, both in His Word, and in that "small still voice" that speaks in my heart.

But HAZ, you have been shouting accusations at me that almost everybody else knows are false. I will continue to forgive you for your lies spoken to me, and even the lies you have told to others about me. But from now on, I'm ignoring you.
---Monk_Brendan on 11/26/17


From Debate Facism:
National Socialism does not equal the socialism of today. The National Socialists were extremely anti-communist, and their economic policies reflected this belief. Hitler was against Jewish communism.

FROM NEWSWEEK
The (Nazi) party represented an extreme side of Germans right wing, and the key word in its title was not necessarily "socialism," but rather "national." During Hitlers ascension, nationalism was preached and took hold, and excluded anyone who wasnt fully German or considered superior.
---Monk_Brendan on 11/26/17


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The Alt right or Nazis and the KKK both endorsed Trump. -Samuelbb7 on 11/26/17

And BLM, the Black Panthers, and Antifa supported Hillary and Bernie. Those groups are more racist and violent than the KKK ever was.

So the Parties have switched.

No. The Democrats are still the party of racial division and racial hate. They simply switched flavors once hating blacks stopped being cool. Now hating white people is all the rave.

Trump is for Nazi's because some of them are good guys.

That's what liberals say about BLM and Antifa.

I don't follow Nazi's or the KKK. They are servants of Satan.

So are BLM and Antifa.
---ObamasBoy on 11/26/17


SAMMUELbb7. It's sad to see how brainwashed you are by the Left.

Russian KGB Communist defector Yuri Bezmanov warned that brainwashed people like you were unlikely ever to be red pilled back to reality. Hopefully you might be an exception, if you allow God to help you.

The Left's "Big Switch" claim is just another "Big Lie" tactic as used by Left's forefather, Hitler.

Your Leftist leaders have deceived you, hence you now support the modern day Fascists, NAZIs, racists, etc.

Check out academic David Horowitz. He's ex Communist activist having followed his parents lead, who were one of the many people sent over by the USSR to subvert universities, etc in USA.
---Haz27 on 11/26/17


Dear Haz you are out of date. During the Civil War and until Johnson you would have been correct.

The Alt right or Nazis and the KKK both endorsed Trump. The Republicans abandoned non white people. They have gone further to the left to have them join the Democrats.

So the Parties have switched.

Trump is for Nazi's because some of them are good guys.

I don't follow Nazi's or the KKK. They are servants of Satan.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/26/17


MONK. The best counselor for Christians is Jesus, who we call counsellor ISA 9:6. Best we trust in him instead of this world's shrinks, etc. God is doing a work in Christians and will perform it (Phil 1:6). Trust Him to do it.

As for our justified criticisms of the bullying, child abuse and deviancy indoctrination of the Marxist Safe schools lie, I suggest you don't allow those valid criticisms to bring you back into your old victim state of mind. If these facts exposing the safe schools lie are uncomfortable for you, then maybe better don't debate this topic.
---Haz27 on 11/26/17


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AXE. It's Leftist academics who can't be trusted. They've lied far too often, just as the Left's Fake News media does.

The only serious opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act came from DEMs. 80% of REPs supported the Civil Rights bill, whilst less than 70% of DEMs supported it.
DEMs senators filibustered the bill for 75 days, but the REPs managed to get enough votes to pass the bill.

DEMs president LBJ later said that " I'll have them ni**ers voting DEMs for 200 years".

This info courtesy of black academic Carol Swain, professor of political science at Vanderbilt University

The Left have always been the side of politics for white supremacy, racism, both historically (KKK & NAZIs), and even today.
---Haz27 on 11/26/17


while the racist south was predominantly D. TODAY, the south is predominantly R. -StrongAxe

Yes, but now the north is far more racist than the south, while the south favors true equality and freedom. So the racism is still where the Democrats are. When the Democrats went north, they took their racism with them. The tactic of stirring up racial hate has always been and will always be a Democrat tactic.
---ObamasBoy on 11/26/17


Nicole said, "Are you blaming Haz and I for the abuse?...I even said why I mistakenly thought you were a Democrat until you corrected me. How is it our fault that you were abused as a child? I feel for you and most likely you and I would have been friends as kids since we were both teased."

Nicole, I figured that you had been bullied as as kid, like me. And I am not blaming you or Haz for my rotten childhood. I bring these things up so that you will understand why I want schools (and other places) to be safe from bullies.

But Haz, and then you have jumped on the anti-left bandwagon, and I get an image (obviously not intended by you) of the villagers chasing me with torches and pitchforks!
---Monk_Brendan on 11/25/17


Haz27 said, "Monk. If you believe on Jesus, then I suggest you stop dwelling on your past as a victim. Christians are a NEW CREATION (2Cor 5:17), and that old man is now gone."

Haz, some of that bullying came AFTER I was the New Creation. However,

I AM NOT A VICTIM ANY MORE!

It took years of talking to God and talking to a shrink, and talking to my confessor, but I am finally free of that garbage. I have been able to peel that "onion" of forgiveness until I got to the core, and then there was only a bad smell.
---Monk_Brendan on 11/25/17


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StrongAxe: lived all over Alabama. Rural and urban areas for most of my life. NEVER ONCE have I met, ran into or was threaten by a White Supremacist.

Leftist's Boogeyman for Black/Hispanic people.

I just ate Thanksgivings at some White Republican Friend's home. No burning crosses in their front lawn. They even have a bi-racial grandkid.

It's okay. White and Black Folks have been mingling together here in Alabama for decades.

Don't believe the fake news.

//Which is worse? Eating meatless lunches once a week, or not having lunches at ALL because lunches were cut by Republican congress?//

Stop the lies!

Only Michelle Obama has ACTUALLY limited FOOD for the poor public children and she is A DEMOCRAT!
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/17


The Eastern fathers teach to avoid errors on the right as well as the left, but to stick to the royal path.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/25/17


Monk: I was chubby as a kid. When I was going to school,//

So was I. In fact I was a FAT KID.

//certain schoolchildren bullied me unceasingly!//

TRUST ME I know how it feels. I begged my parents to let me quit school just because of the bullying.

I was never beaten. But I cried a lot.

But I don't understand?

Are you blaming Haz and I for the abuse?

Are you claiming we are abusing you now? Please explain?

I never called you names?

I even said why I mistakenly thought you were a Democrat until you corrected me.

How is it our fault that you were abused as a child?

I feel for you and most likely you and I would have been friends as kids since we were both teased.
---Nicole_Lacey on 11/25/17


Nicole_Lacey:

150 years ago, Democrats were right, Republicans left. Yes Republicans freed the slaves, but they were LEFTISTS. All of those people are dead now. In the 1964 Civil Rights Act, MORE Democrats voted for it than Republicans in BOTH the north and the left. Today, white supremacists are on the extreme RIGHT.

Which is worse? Eating meatless lunches once a week, or not having lunches at ALL because lunches were cut by Republican congress? I would rather eat salad than go hungry. Would you prefer the reverse?

Sugar, salt, cigarettes, alcohol, etc. can be unhealthy. Parents forbid their children things that are dangerous. Should parents stop that in the name of freedom? Where do you draw the line?
---StrongAxe on 11/25/17


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MONK. Mans worldly systems of government are flawed. Only Gods government is perfect.

But of mans Right vs Left, clearly the Left are the greater evil, as proven both historically under genocidal Leftists like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, etc, and also today with the Lefts genocidal abortion/murder platform.

The Left are renowned as totalitarians, whilst the Right is about less government.

Monk. If you believe on Jesus, then I suggest you stop dwelling on your past as a victim. Christians are a NEW CREATION (2Cor 5:17), and that old man is now gone.
---Haz27 on 11/25/17


NICOLE AND HAZ, I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT OR A LEFTIST! I do not support Marxist or Socialist programs at all!

I was chubby as a kid. When I was going to school, certain schoolchildren bullied me unceasingly! I was constantly being tripped, kicked, beaten, taunted, and yelled at. Kids made me their big fun of the day. If they could reduce me to tears, they won.

Well, they won a lot. When I grew up, abuse continued from my parents and my older brother until I couldn't even eat at the table with them, I would have to fix something for myself later.

I simply do not want the abuse I lived through to hurt any other kid, whether they were fat, disabled, wore thick glasses, or were "different" in any way.
---Monk_Brendan on 11/25/17


Hold both hands with their backs to your eyes.

Stick out your thumbs.

The hand that makes an L is your LEFT hand.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/25/17


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