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Nicole_Lacey:

You said India and Pakistan don't have taxes. This is clearly NOT TRUE. You obviously didn't check your facts before posting, as it is very easy to verify that they DO have taxes.

I have often given you indirect citations (e.g. simple ways to search youtube, google, etc.) because direct web site addresses are not allowed here.

I said they had NO taxation...

Yes. But they DO have taxation, and I DID point you to a two word google search. Google: taxation India

which leads directly to a Wikipedia article that explains exactly how taxes ARE levied in India. There are 34 footnotes at the bottom of that article leading to primary sources. How much more "proof" do you need?
---StrongAxe on 2/21/18


StrongAxe, I am sure you know our lovely system of innocence until proven guilty.

Note you are ONE as a state of living until someone PROVES otherwise through a system placed by our Government called a trial.

So evidence must comes forth to PROVE someone guilt, not their innocent.

Now, note how a person is harping on one Country and not another Country.

I can accept I was WRONG on India, but NOT on Pakistan.

Yet she can not say I was RIGHT on Pakistan but wrong on India.

***Only 0.3% of Pakistanis, or a mere 500,000 individuals, pay direct tax according to a report by advocacy group Research and Advocacy for the Advancement of Allied Reforms (RAFTAAR).
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/22/18


AGAIN! Nicole has not PROVED Pakistan and India do not pay taxes. It's on her to PROVE her bogus statement. I don't have to PROVE you lied. Just saying so should be enough.

Again...still arguing without PROOF OR A CITE.

Look on Wikipedia Nicole. And don't come back and say Wikipedia lies.

Are you so helpless you can't look something up.

Ok now where is your PROOF. OH so your too good to give proof?

You LIED, just like Trump lies....just makes up stuff all the time without back up,or proof. People prove him wrong all the time. Hopefully we don't have to treat you like Trumps lies have to be treated.
---kathr4453 on 2/21/18


StrongAxe: Unfortunately, this web site has rules that forbid citations (i.e. you aren't allowed to post links to corroborating web sites).//

I have posted many web site citations and the Moderators have allowed them 90% of the time.

Even you have given me several citation from YouTube. Don't you remember?

I believe they were about Police pulling over only Black men with guns.

//You claimed, without citations, that India and Pakistan have no taxes,//

No, I said they had NO taxation and you both claimed Kathr PROVED India had taxation.

saying and proving are two different methods

A big difference.

I am NOT claiming my tongue is notarized.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/21/18


It goes deeper . Nicole made false accusations against our Lord....without any proof, I find detestable. She allowed her imagination to fill in between the lines something that just wasn't there. That's WRONG. When I showed her supporting scripture she got really nasty . And again showing Luke 23 also debunks any idea Jesus PERSONALLY was a tax evader....wasn't even what they brought bogus charges against Him for. We KNOW He never told anyone NOT to render to Caesar what was Caesars, either. So in fact THEY WERE trying to set Him up....not just ask His OPINION

She was disingenuous when she said Pakistan and India did not pay taxes WITHOUT showing proof. THATS what disingenuous means.
---kathr4453 on 2/21/18




Nicole_Lacey:

Unfortunately, this web site has rules that forbid citations (i.e. you aren't allowed to post links to corroborating web sites). The best one can do is to indirectly point at them via web search. Furthermore, citations take a large chunk out of the 125 word limit, making it difficult to elaborate.

It's easy to verify any claim with a simple web search before posting, and it's similarly easy for anyone else to verify any claim they read here.

You claimed, without citations, that India and Pakistan have no taxes, yet you complain kathr has no citations when she disagrees. Instead of complaining about that, why not just LOOK IT UP, like the Bereans. A simple two-word web search shows both countries have taxes.
---StrongAxe on 2/20/18


The only abusive bully here is you Nicole. You are unreasonable, and nasty. You made a statement WITHOUT PROOF, and did not CITE anything proving Pakistan and India do not pay taxes...yet go completely off the rails when confronted by your bullying, a hypocrite with double standards. Sometimes I think you post nonsense here just to start trouble. And when asked for YOUR PROOF...you scream foul....ENOUGH ALREADY.

Can't you see you have not PROVED one thing you've stated ...not one thing. It's all In Your head...every last word you posted here.

Your are the bully here.

And you are WRONG.

Admit it and move on.
---kathr4453 on 2/20/18


Kathr, when you can act like a Christian I will continue to debate you. But I will not continue to take your verbal abuses. Abuse someone else. I will not catch your balls anymore.

StrongAxe, I am only going by your word 'prove' instead of statement. If you said Kathr's statement was correct I would have returned with another response.

proof comes with citation.

If I can cite many of my statements so can others.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/20/18


Sorry... Pakistan...correcting spelling. Some folks are so unfocused that may be the next ranting....misspelled words.... And then again a welcome change of nonsense.

Still waiting for Nicole to cite where she got her information that Pakistan and India don't pay taxes. Nicole made that up. That's even WORSE then asking someone to do their own research.

Luke 23 continues the narrative of Jesus being accused of telling people NOT to pay tribute money ( which He never did) when the Pharisees turned Him over to be crucified. They didn't accuse Jesus alone of not paying Tribute money.

End of story. Paul says WE ARE TO PAY TRIBUTE aka TAXES to those in authority over us.
---kathr4453 on 2/19/18


Nicole, just because YOU make bogus statements online..RE: India and Pakestain don't pay taxes....WHERE IS YOUR PROOF DEARY? What and who are YOU CITING?... You can make all the off the wall statements in the world without anything but your imagination and NO ONE HERE has to even comment on it much less PROVE your imagination is false.

The PROOF and CITING is on you completely Nicole .....where did you get that idea? If you do as anyone with half a brain will do is LOOK ONLINE you will see on many CITES that Pakestain and India both collect taxes.

Are you OK Nicole? Your making no sense. Are you taking pain killers? They mess you up...STOP TAKING.
---kathr4453 on 2/19/18




Nicole_Lacye:

When I say "scripture says X", that verifies itself (just look it up). When I say "scripture never says X", that's trivial to refute if it's wrong, by just citing chapter and verse.

Again, Kathr didn't prove anything. She only MADE a statement. She didn't back up her statement with a citation.

The 125 word limit makes it difficult to even post things here WITHOUT citations. I spend MOST of my time on this site trimming down 150+-word replies to fit in 125 words. Rather than wasting MANY DAYS and many messages from the 75 message limit about why people don't post citations, why can't you just put TWO WORDS into a search engine and spend TWO MINUTES letting your fingers do the walking?
---StrongAxe on 2/19/18


StrongAxe: I never said that or implied it. I cite what SCRIPTURE says, and point out what it doesn't say even though others may think it does.//

That's a common phase meaning you don't need to verify one's statement.

I can't count how many times I have asked you to cite your information. That's why I included you with Kathr.

If offended you I am sorry.

//showing India has them proves that false, regardless of Pakistan.//

Again, Kathr didn't prove anything. She only MADE a statement. She didn't back up her statement with a citation.

//But google: taxes india and taxes pakistan to find plenty of proof.//

Only you and Kathr keep using the word 'Proved' without proof.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/19/18


Nicole_Lacey:

I know you both think your tongues are Gospels but they are not.

I never said that or implied it. I cite what SCRIPTURE says, and point out what it doesn't say even though others may think it does.

If you say India and Pakistan have no taxes, showing India has them proves that false, regardless of Pakistan.

But google: taxes india and taxes pakistan to find plenty of proof.

YOU first claimed India and Pakistan had no taxes, and YOU should have verified that first before posting it. If you can post on blogs, you can type two words into a search engine to check your facts first. Bereans were factually diligent, and so should we all be.
---StrongAxe on 2/19/18


Kathr: I also showed where India pays over 25 different taxes.//

No you didn't.

I know you both think your tongues are Gospels but they are not.

You told me, but DIDN'T cited it. That's PROOF

I spoke of 2 COUNTRIES.

Funny how you ignored Pakistan? WHY?

//My question still is unanswered.//

You still haven't answered 20 of my CITED questions and you want me to answer one of your UNCITED statement?

I THINK NOT!

//Here goes again//

Go to 'Finish here February 2018' blog and explain you being so disingenuous act first!

Please be TRUE to your belief of Sola Scriptura.

Only StrongAxe can veer off Scripture because he doesn't push that belief as you have in the past.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/18/18


I also showed where India pays over 25 different taxes.

My question still is unanswered. I know Nicole purposely had not answered it, because it would cause her theory to crumble.

Here goes again.

Were ALL JEWS exempt from Paying Roman Tax? The ONLY WAY Jesus did not pay taxes is if ALL JEWS did not pay taxes. If they did so did Jesus, also a JEW.

If Jesus was the ONLY Jew who didn't pay taxes....WHY? And if Jesus was the ONLY JEW who broke Roman Law, what other LAWS did He break, and why?

I'll say it again, Paul who continued Jesus teaching said we were to obey those in rule over us...meaning our government. Would not Paul teach tax evasion if Jesus evaded taxes?
---kathr4453 on 2/18/18


StrongAxe: They didn't NEED or WANT or CARE about his opinion//

Just because you think or want to stress a point doesn't mean you can X out a question from the Bible.

There was a 2 part question in Matthew 22.

They NEEDED to know His OPINION in order to trip Him by asking Him a 2nd question.

Just because you are not interested in the 1st question doesn't mean they DIDN'T ask Him His opinion in a form of a question.

//(like "have you you stopped beating your wife?").//

No it isn't the same because that is ONE question to trick someone not 2 questions.

Asking 'When and Where did you stop beating your wife?' is a 2 form question.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/17/18


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Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: Jesus DIDN'T PAY ROMAN TAXES! Do you NOW understand my position?

I understand your position. "I believe Jesus never paid Roman taxes" may be defensible. However, "The Bible says Jesus never paid Roman taxes" is not.
---StrongAxe on 2/17/18


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---michael_e on 2/17/18


Nicole Lacey said, "Not India and Pakistan. They don't have a tax system at all."

To quote Wikipedia: Pakistan's Current Taxation system is defined by Income Tax Ordinance 2001, promulgated on 13 September 2001, which became effective from 1 July 2002.

At least Pakistan has taxes. You are incorrect. Sorry!
---Monk_Brendan on 2/17/18


StrongAxe: kathr4453 PROVED Jesus and Peter paid the temple tax.//

No, the Bible PROVED that Jesus PAID the Temple Tax which I gave the Scripture before Kathr given jumped into our conversation.

Anywho

WHO CARES?

That ISN'T our argument!

Again, I KEEP telling you both I am NOT DENYING that Jesus paid the Temple Tax. It's in the Bible and I PROVED IT!

That's like saying I am both disagreeing with the position that the sky is blue and the ocean is red. YOU can look at the sky to see it's blue.

But don't try to CONVINCE me that the ocean is red.

Please pay attention:

Jesus DIDN'T PAY ROMAN TAXES!

Do you NOW understand my position?

I will address the 'Need' one next
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/17/18


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Nicole_Lacey:

I pointed out that they didn't NEED his opinion (focusing on NEED). Instead, you said I was wrong in challenging the idea of OPINION - which is NOT what I was saying at all.

They didn't NEED or WANT or CARE about his opinion as they NEVER listened to or obeyed his teachings. The ONLY reason they asked him questions was to trick him and make him say things in public they could then condemn him for. They DELIBERATELY asked trick questions where EVERY answer was wrong (like "have you you stopped beating your wife?").

You ask "Do you think Jesus...". What I THINK is not the point. The bible nowhere SAYS Jesus avoided paying taxes.

kathr4453 PROVED Jesus and Peter paid the temple tax.
---StrongAxe on 2/16/18


StrongAxe: I highlighted NEED, not OPINION. They didn't care if he paid taxes. The just wanted him to state his opinion IN PUBLIC//

Really? So now I can't use a word from your sentence just because you didn't highlighted it?

I proved they WANTED His opinion.

Do you think they had mailing system in Jesus' days?

Or do you think Jesus was incognito when He paid His taxes?

So how did he get credit?

Did Jesus cover his head when He was in line and asked the Tax collector to speak in a low voice?

//...like the woman taken in adultery,//

No, the question wasn't about IF she committed adultery BUT how to PUNISH her.

The Roman Tax question is about if it a SIN or not to pay it.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/16/18


StrongAxe, please DON'T twist my words.

He WASN'T paying the Temple Taxes which made the Jewish people COMPLAIN!

Jesus COMPLAINED back and said HE and Peter were exempted but PAID the Temple Tax ONCE so the Jewish people would STOP complaining. Matt 17:24-27.

BTW 5 Chapters later in Matth 22 Jesus DIDN'T PAY the ROMAM TAX

//You KEEP saying that, but the Bible NEVER says that ANYWHERE.//

You keep saying that because you keep ignoring common sense and logic.

//The Bible states He didn't pay the Roman Tax//

AGAIN, They would NOT ask Jesus' opinion on the MATTER of paying Roman Taxes IF JESUS WAS PAYING THE TAXES ALREADY!

His ACTION TELLS His opinion.

ACTIONS SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/16/18


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: He even evaded paying the Temple tax which the Jewish people complained about.

Jesus said He was exempt, but told Peter to get a coin from a fish and pay ONLY THE TEMPLE TAX!

So did he pay the temple tax or not? You just said he didn't, then he did.

JESUS STILL EVADED THE ROMAN TAX!

You KEEP saying that, but the Bible NEVER says that ANYWHERE.

The Bible states He didn't pay the Roman Tax

No, it doesn't! Show me a verse that ACTUALLY SAYS Jesus didn't pay the tax. There are none. Verses that you somehow magically deduce that from nothing don't count.
---StrongAxe on 2/15/18


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Matthew 17:27 Notwithstanding, lest WE should offend them,
go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up, and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them FOR ME and thee.

So it does appear Jesus did pay....

Why do you keep saying He didn't pay either?
---kathr4453 on 2/16/18


StrongAxe: "pay" brands him a Roman collaborator. "don't pay" brands him a tax evader. He found a third answer//

Jesus was a Tax Evader.

He even evaded paying the Temple tax which the Jewish people complained about.

If they didn't complain He STILL would have evaded paying the Temple Tax.

Jesus said He was exempt, but told Peter to get a coin from a fish and pay ONLY THE TEMPLE TAX!

JESUS STILL EVADED THE ROMAN TAX!

The Bible states He didn't pay the Roman Tax, but the Romans DIDN'T complain about it ONLY the Jewish people complain. Matthew 22:17

Just like the Romans didn't want to kill Jesus, but the Jews had Him killed.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/15/18


Nicole_Lacey:

I highlighted NEED, not OPINION. They didn't care if he paid taxes. The just wanted him to state his opinion IN PUBLIC, then denounce him publicly NO MATTER WHAT HE SAID, and he would have no defense, as others would have heard him say it. They did this frequently, on many subjects, like the woman taken in adultery, and the multi-widowed woman.

Which proves Jesus didn't have one penny in His pocket to PAY the Roman Tax in the first place.

Jesus not showing a coin proves nothing. If ask you to show me a dollar to show Washington's face, it doesn't prove I'm broke.

I mentioned poll taxes (so poll taxes were on point). "Trump is the best president" has NOTHING to do with taxation.
---StrongAxe on 2/15/18


Nicole, because you obviously don't read scripture, you just can't see....

Just like the woman taken in Adultry. Because of Jesus teachings....look before Matthew 22 and what led up to the PHARISEES WHO WERE JESUS ENEMIES....always trying to discredit Jesus. Under LAW, the woman should have been stoned.....and again they tried to ensnare Him to go against the LAW. Because Jesus came with GRACE and TRUTH...of which they did not like, they wanted to take Him as a heretic.....the same with the tax issue....it IMMEDIATELY says, they asked Him to ENSNARE Him, meaning to entrap ... Set Him up....do you now get it?

Do you believe NO JEW whatsoever paid Taxes to Ceasar or just Jesus didn't pay Taxes?
---kathr4453 on 2/15/18


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"pay" brands him a Roman collaborator. "don't pay" brands him a tax evader. He found a third answer... "stone" is cruel, "don't stone" violates Mosaic law. He found a third answer...
---StrongAxe on 2/14/18

I have found this to be the truth about God in most of my life. There are man's ways, and then there are God's ways.

Many times, God's ways are the opposite of man's ways.

For example, money. Man's way is to think it is mine, to hoard money, to keep it for a rainy day, to keep it for retirement. Or use it lavishly on ourselves. God's way is to look to God for our money, to use wisely, to be a cheerful giver, and to store up treasure in heaven, not here on earth.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/15/18


Kathr: Nicole, just read scripture...it's all there. Just as Strongaxe stated.//

So as the word 'opinion' in the KJV Bible.

If Jesus had been PAYING TAXES as you both claim they would KNOW what He thought on the matter and KNOW it was LAWFUL to pay Roman Taxes.

//19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. 20 And he saith unto them,---kathr4453

Which proves Jesus didn't have one penny in His pocket to PAY the Roman Tax in the first place.

He didn't even care to get one from a fish as He did for the Temple tax.

Do you think the Romans would accept anything else beside coin with Caesar's images for Taxes? No they wouldn't
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/15/18


Nicole, just read scripture...it's all there. Just as Strongaxe stated.


Matthew 22: 15 And the Pharisees took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk.

16 .....17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?

18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye to me, ye hypocrites? 19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. 20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? 21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's.
---kathr4453 on 2/15/18


StrongAxe: They didn't NEED his opinion.//

Really?

The Bible uses the word 'opinion'.

Matthew 22:17
Tell us then, what is your OPINION?

Next they tried to trip Him. First they NEEDED to know His opinion in ORDER to trip Him.

Note, they STILL DIDN'T know his opinion AFTER the question. Jesus didn't answer them.

//You switched YOUR OWN SWITCH to a third subject. Please focus on one at a time.
---StrongAxe on 2/14/18

It was poll taxes that disenfranchised black voters in the south for years.---StrongAxe on 2/11/18//

Funny, how White Progressive People think ONLY they can speak on matter of race and poverty but people of the race CAN'T speak.

FUNNY INDEED!
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/15/18


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Nicole_Lacey:

They didn't NEED his opinion. All questions they asked him were SOLELY to trip him up. "pay" brands him a Roman collaborator. "don't pay" brands him a tax evader. He found a third answer.

With the woman taken in adultery, "stone" is cruel, "don't stone" violates Mosaic law. He found a third answer.

Regardless of today, in the past, poll taxes (computed once every census) were practical. Income tax (without receits, as most people were paid daily in cash) was not.

Google poll tax to see how Israel and Rome did taxes. It verifies everything I have been saying.

You switched YOUR OWN SWITCH to a third subject. Please focus on one at a time.
---StrongAxe on 2/14/18


StrongAxe, I can infer it because of the actions of the Pharisees which you are pretending didn't happen.

Please answer this question.

If Jesus did pay the Roman tax WHY did they need His opinion on the matter?

//In America, the main tax is the INCOME tax.//

You are incorrect about this. I don't know which one, but many taxes collected surpasses the income tax. MANY DO NOT have a income and MANY are paid under the table.

//Everyone ALIVE paid the tax, based on the census//

Incorrect! Just because you are counted on in the census does not mean you have to pay taxes.

//Can we please stick to the subject//

SO YOU JUMP and ask someone NOT TO JUMP?
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/14/18


Really Nicole....did they also pay SS Tax and Medicare tax on their earned income? Jesus was a carpenter, so,I'm guessing he did earn a living up until He went into Ministry full time...what 3 years before He was crucified.

Do you think Jesus didn't pay because he was God, or because no Jews paid Roman Tax? And they said Jesus was exempt from paying taxes BECAUSE THEY KNEW HE WAS GOD?

Nicole, did Jesus make his own sandles, and cloths? Or did he BUY them? Or did they drop like manna out of the sky? Or did Mary support and cloth Jesus the MAN? Where did she get money to purchase food clothing medicine?
---kathr4453 on 2/13/18


Nicole_Lacey:

The Bible does NOT SAY ANYWHERE that Jesus did not pay taxes. You keep inferring that, but the Bible does not say it.

In America, the main tax is the INCOME tax. This requires a lot of computerized accounting that was not available 2000 years ago. It's impossible to tax something that isn't tracked. People were paid in cash and few people kept receipts. In those times, people paid POLL taxes. Everyone ALIVE paid the tax, based on the census. It had NOTHING to do with earned income.

Can we please stick to the subject (such as it now is) of Jesus's paying the tax, without dragging dubious partisan politics into it? (Trump is the WORST president EVER, but that is a subject for a different blog).
---StrongAxe on 2/13/18


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StrongAxe: Pharisees didn't ask Jesus questions to learn answers. They asked him lose-lose questions to deliberately trip him up no matter how he answered, but he outsmarted them.//

They HAD to ask Him because He didn't pay any Roman taxes.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

If Jesus paid the Roman tax they would understand Jesus' position on the matter.

Besides, you pay taxes on earned money.

//It was poll taxes that disenfranchised black voters in the south for years.//

Lets not go there again.

You wouldn't know what disenfranchised Black voters anyway.

Because Trump has been the BEST thing to help Black voters in the South and EVERYWHERE in America in MANY YEARS!
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/13/18


Nicole...FOCUS, you're all over the place with your answers back....just pulling garbage out of the air, just to throw around and say anything, just to say something...even stupid come-backs.

FIRSTLY, India has a minimum of 25 different taxes.

PLEASE do your homework first before commenting.

How did this get from Jesus paying taxes to India and Pakistan ?

Next thing you will be posting how Barbie and Ken don't pay taxes on their Malibu Beach home and Kens brand new Jaguar. WHICH they don't !
---kathr4453 on 2/13/18


StrongAxe, you twisted my words when I complained it wasn't fair that 51% are threaten with imprisonment when 49% get a check.

How is that fair in your world?

//everyone has to contribute.//

Apparently not everyone!

//EVERY SOCIETY ON EARTH works this way.//

Not India and Pakistan. They don't have a tax system at all.

Why don't you give 1/2 of your check to their stomach?

//If you can't stomach that social model, that's your problem.//

It seems you don't care about their poor.

//So which of us is envious?---StrongAxe//

You. Because you are too busy looking at someone else's supper plate INSTEAD of your own. Wishing they drop part of their food. Meaning you are envious.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/12/18


StrongAxe, I'm going to have to wait till Monday to respond because every weekend there's a Moderator who doesn't post all my blogs.

No sense in wasting my time
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/11/18


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Nicole_Lacey:

ROMAN law said they should pay ROMAN taxes. JEWISH law said they shouldn't. Pharisees didn't ask Jesus questions to learn answers. They asked him lose-lose questions to deliberately trip him up no matter how he answered, but he outsmarted them.

Besides, you pay taxes on earned money.

That is INCOME tax. Rome didn't collect income taxes, as that requires a horrendous amount of accounting we can only now deal with. It collected POLL taxes - a fixed amount for each living person, determined by CENSUS (why census was taken). It was poll taxes that disenfranchised black voters in the south for years.

Would you and I appreciate a raise? Yes. Do we WHINE ABOUT IT and DEMAND a raise as Congressmen do? No.
---StrongAxe on 2/11/18


Nicole_Lacey:

*I* never said I want to imprison people for not paying taxes. However, that *IS* the law of the land, decided by people other than me (especially since I have absolutely NO say in the matter).

We work as a society by providing certain services that benefit everyone (e.g. military, roads, air traffic control, electric power network, internet, etc.) and in order to provide those services, everyone has to contribute. EVERY SOCIETY ON EARTH works this way. If you can't stomach that social model, that's your problem. Go live on a mountaintop in Tibet.

Envy?! As I said, *I* am OK with what I receive. Republican congressmen making 20x what I make are not. So which of us is envious?
---StrongAxe on 2/11/18


StrongAxe, Matthew 22:17 and Mark 17:15 Should we pay or shouldn't we? proves Jesus wasn't paying taxes because if He was they would have known His opinion on the matter. Why can't you understand that?

Besides, you pay taxes on earned money. Jesus was supported by women Luke 8:3

Or do you also disagree with Luke 8:3?

//Congressmen get paid about 20x as much as I do. I am content with what I get. They are NOT, and want a raise. Who is greedy again?---StrongAxe on 2/10/18

Everyone wants a raise including MYSELF.

You are NOT being honest.

If they increased your check by $100 you would keep it!

AKA RAISE
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/11/18


StrongAxe: I checked the dates. That nobody posted here in years//

Years? I see you didn't really check the dates. I started the 'Finish it' on Feb 7th, but it wasn't released until the night when I posted here on this site.

But, why are all so upset?

If the Moderator allowed it, who are you all to be upset or fuss?

I amazed how you are willing to put people in prison NOT because they took money from you, but because you believe they are KEEPING too much of their OWN MONEY.

ENVY is one of the seven deadly sins.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/10/18


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Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: YES IT DOES! Matthew 22:17 and Mark 17:15 Should we pay or shouldn't we?

That says NOTHING about whether Jesus ACTUALLY paid taxes. All it says is who SHOULD pay taxes - strangers DO, sons DON'T.

We are talking about ROMAN taxes. Jews were taxed because they were subjects and not citizens.
Jesus was a Jew. He was NOT A SON OF ROME, so he was NOT exempt. Why do you not understand this?

So who is REALLY being greedy?

Congressmen get paid about 20x as much as I do. I am content with what I get. They are NOT, and want a raise. Who is greedy again?
---StrongAxe on 2/10/18


StrongAxe: How do you KNOW Jesus didn't pay Roman tax? The Bible DOESN'T SAY he didn't.//

YES IT DOES! Matthew 22:17 and Mark 17:15 Should we pay or shouldn't we?

If Jesus was paying as you and Kathr claims they would KNOW His opinion since He paid the tax.

Use common sense.

//You can't infer a negative from silence.//

No, from known ABSENT!

Will quick with the bathroom example. Again the are not asking Him if men use the bathroom are not.

//So who is being greedy? -StrongAxe

So, let me understand you. Because you are on disability, if I don't pay taxes, I have to go to PRISON to continue to support you?

So who is REALLY being greedy?
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/10/18


Nicole_Lacey:

I checked the dates. That nobody posted here in years doesn't make it appropriate to drag in unrelated conversations. "Finish it here" IS appropriate.

How do you KNOW Jesus didn't pay Roman tax? The Bible DOESN'T SAY he didn't. You can't infer a negative from silence. It ALSO doesn't say he went to the bathroom. Do you also conclude that he never did that either?

I have been on disability for the past 3 years, but paid taxes into the system for much longer than that. Those who make enough money to be above the poverty threshold must pay income tax. This is about twice what I get, and I make do, but Congressmen think $174000 is too little for them and want a raise! So who is being greedy?
---StrongAxe on 2/10/18


StrongAxe: please don't act like you don't know why I am here. Also check the dates BEFORE asking questions.

//Jesus was NOT a son of Rome. Therefore he was NOT exempt.//

Jesus DIDN'T pay the Roman tax. Only Temple taxes as in the Bible.

//We are talking about ROMAN taxes,//

Which I keep proving Jesus NEVER paid. Only you and Kathr keep saying stuff that ISN'T Scripture.

//By complaining that 49% of the population gets a check,//

I am SAYING I get threaten with PRISON TIME!
You must get a check because if you don't see how UNFAIR it is then you are cruel.

KEEP YOUR CHECK, but DON'T PUT ME IN PRISON for not getting a check and not paying taxes!

That's UNFAIR and ENVIOUS on your part!
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/9/18


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Nicole_Lacey:

This thread is about driving tests. Why drag tax discussion here? You've already dragged it into the "finish it" thread, where it is appropriate.

Matthew 17:26: Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

Jesus was NOT a son of Rome. Therefore he was NOT exempt. We are talking about ROMAN taxes, from the perspective of ROME (Jesus was NOT a son of Rome), NOT Jewish taxes from the perspective of God (Jesus was God's son)

By complaining that 49% of the population gets a check, you're implying you AREN'T part of that 49%. Either you're jealous of them (I don't believe that), or you think you're better than they are because you don't get a check.
---StrongAxe on 2/9/18


StrongAxe: The verse you gave was telling everyone to pay taxes, but JESUS NEVER PAID TAXES TO THE ROMANS.//

You are confusing me with someone else

//so how was Jesus exempt?//

Because HE said so. Matt 17:26

NOR did Jesus told us to pay taxes.

I already explained the image thing with the coin. We are made in God's image and belong to God. The coin is made in Caesar image so give to him if you have it. Jesus NEVER HAD A COIN.

//Boasting "I'm better than these leeches" sounds like the Pharisee and the Publican.---StrongAxe

How convenient that you left out the word PRISON but left the word CHECK?

So it is boasting to say I am threaten with prison time and thus I am better than you!
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/9/18


Kathr: Posting on a thread not associated with the question is called a TROLL.//

Soooo, why are here? TROLL

//And Nicole states she does this on purpose because she can do anything she wants.//

Just because the Moderators allow you to post 2 at a times don't get MAD because they allow us to use a blog not being used.

//Well, maybe you can....but none the less...its called an internet TROLL---kathr4453 on 2/7/18

THEN STOP TROLLING!
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/8/18


Posting on a thread not associated with the question is called a TROLL. And Nicole states she does this on purpose because she can do anything she wants. Well, maybe you can....but none the less...its called an internet TROLL.
---kathr4453 on 2/7/18


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StrongAxe: Nowhere does the Bible say Jesus DIDN'T pay taxes.//

Yes it does!

Nowhere is in Mark 12:14-15 Is it right to pay the imperial tax to Caesar or not? Should we pay or shouldn't we?

Use logic. They had tax booths. Paying taxes wasn't like today.

Paying taxes in Jesus' time wasn't done in secret.

If Jesus paid taxes there won't be a NEED to ask the question. They would know the answer.

But because HE DIDN'T pay taxes they didn't know His opinion on the matter. So they asked.

That means Jesus didn't pay taxes.

//Jesus NEVER said it was WRONG to pay taxes.//

He can give a direct answer as He did when He said it was okay to eat anything. Mark 7:14-23

He DIDN'T for Taxes.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/7/18


StrongAxe, I can't answer you and Kathr on the same blog at the same time.

Since no one is using this blog I am answering you here.

//This wasn't the first census EVER, just the first during Quirinius's governorship.//

History's argument isn't if this was the census, but the timeline. Which they claim occurred 6-7 years AFTER Jesus' birth.

The Latin (Roman's Language) word use for census is the same word used for enrollment. Not taxes.

The purpose of the census had many uses besides taxation. It's used for men for battle.

As we do today when we make men register through Selective Service System today which allows a draft to be activated if needed.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/7/18


I pray God was merciful.

But remember sometimes a rejection isn't a punishment
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/2/18


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