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Should you force people to listen to the Gospel or listen to a Pastor for a food.

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 ---Nicole_Lacey on 2/8/18
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Karen, thank you for the clarification.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/20/18


Nicole....The cards are given to the facilities until the client leaves the program. If they leave they receive their card with whatever funds are still on it. When they were paper, I literally picked up all of them at once. The clients did not.
---KarenD on 2/19/18


Karen, I think we are going in circles.

I am not talking about you all assisting Clients with getting EBT cards.

I am saying Catholic Charities or Salvation Army are NOT issued EBT cards in their names in the United States.

Example:

Catholic Charities DOES NOT get a EBT with their name on it with S10,000 worth of food assistance for the month of March to feed their Clients in their faculties.

But John Smith, Maria Rodriguez and Michael Lee each get $200 food assistance on their EBT card with their NAME on their card EVEN if they live in Catholic Charities or Salvation Army.

BTW, the EBT Card goes with the person when he or she leaves the facilities
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/19/18


Nicole....Catholic Charities do the same thing. Their reps were in training when I was when we changed to EBT cards.
---KarenD on 2/19/18


Karen:.The Salvation Army gets the food stamps for the clients.//

Thank you for clarifying.

But the food stamps were assigned to the Client or a family right?

I am just saying our Government doesn't assign food stamps to groups such as the Salvation Army, Catholic Charities, any other nonprofit group.

//How do you think they feed all those people?//

Donations, Food banks and etc. as the Catholic Charities feeds people.

Thanks for your feedback.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/19/18




Nicole....The Salvation Army gets the food stamps for the clients. How do you think they feed all those people? Since the state in which I lived at the time had not converted to EBT cards, I actually picked up the paper food stamps for the clients. We converted to the cards before I retired. These non-profits who get the food stamps for their clients actually have machines to process the cards into the company's bank accounts.
---KarenD on 2/18/18


Karen, first you said the groups gets food stamps. Next you agree the Clients in rehab gets the food stamps.

But how can you process a person's application on behalf of a Client in America?

Do you MEAN you helped a Client to file/complete an application for food stamps?

BTW, I posted this blog because of a statement I heard on TV.
A guy claimed he only went to Church just to eat pizza afterward service.
I believed the pizza was for the Congregation and they didn't deny the pizza for any one who joined them.

But, it triggered what I remembered in the mid-90s of what I witnessed myself of the same thing. I wondered if it was still going on.

I believed it doesn't anymore.

Not in Christianity at least.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/18/18


Nicole....I live in USA. I know they get food stamps for each individual client in their programs because I processed every application when I worked there. Clients are eligible if they are in a rehab that is state licensed. Most rehabs do this.
---KarenD on 2/17/18


KarenD Nicole...TSA is THE SALVATION ARMY. That is their legal name.//

Thanks, I didn't know that.

//Since TSA gets food stamps and other government funds//

But, I don't think they get food stamps here in United States.

You have to be an Individual/family to get food stamps.

Our Government doesn't give food stamps to groups

---Nicole_Lacey on 2/17/18


Nicole...TSA is THE SALVATION ARMY. That is their legal name. Since TSA gets food stamps and other government funds they cannot force them to go to church before they eat. They also use some funds collected in those red kettles to support their churches which they called corps.
---KarenD on 2/16/18




KarenD: The Salvation Army does not require homeless people to attend church in order to eat. That is illegal.//

How is that illegal?

I think you are confusing us with the UK.

A place called Mercy's House that is for homeless people ran by Christian people makes people listen to the Bible.

You have to listen to the Bible and preaching for an hour in the morning, 2 hours in the afternoon if you want a roof over your head.

You hand out uniforms and you HAD TO WEAR THEM.

They ran out on donations.

No rehab given, just food and a bed.

//I retired from TSA.---KarenD on 2/15/18

What is the TSA?

Here in USA it means Transportation Security Administration
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/16/18


Mark, yes I am speaking about Salvation Army

//12 Step program, attend meetings, attend chapel, do a work assignment, attempt to get a outside job, and all the while staying sober. They miss any of this and they are out. Do you think this is wrong?---Mark_Eaton

Missing one step: no.

Wrong for making them go to chapel: no

Because part of the 12 step to STOP believing you can stop addiction without a Higher Power.

My understanding the Higher Power doesn't have to be Jesus. If I am wrong please correct me.

Addiction and asking for a plate of food is completely different.

Do you believe they are the same?

Losing you job because you are laid off or because you are high isn't the same to me.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/15/18


The Salvation Army does not require homeless people to attend church in order to eat. That is illegal. In their rehab they do require church attendance as part of the program. They do allow clients to attend their own churches during certain times in rehab. I retired from TSA.
---KarenD on 2/15/18


Should you force people to listen to the Gospel or listen to a Pastor for a food.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/8/18

Is this a comment on organizations like Salvation Army who might require someone to listen to a Gospel message before they provide lunch?

I volunteer at a Drug/Alcohol rehab facility. It is ran entirely by donations and does not require any of the patients to pay.

However, it does require the patients to work a 12 Step program, attend meetings, attend chapel, do a work assignment, attempt to get a outside job, and all the while staying sober. They miss any of this and they are out.

Do you think this is wrong?
---Mark_Eaton on 2/15/18


I am glad to hear these responses.

I have heard the opposite from many who claimed they couldn't eat until after they sat through the preaching.
---Nicole_Lacey on 2/10/18


Absolutely not!
---StrongAxe on 2/9/18


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Agreed force is not the way. Love others and point them to Jesus.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/9/18


no. God wants us willingly to follow him, not force up on.
---Candice on 2/8/18


Absolutely not!
---KarenD on 2/8/18


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