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KATHR. How's about focusing on the murder of babies that is happening TODAY thanks to the Left?

Stop deflecting back to historical atrocities when the levels of baby murder are FAR FAR HIGHER TODAY thanks to the Left. The baby murders of the past we cannot hope to change. But the baby murders of TODAY we can oppose through protests, our votes, etc.

It's best you stop trying to distract from the atrocities of the Left TODAY just because you yourself are a Lefty.

CLUNY and a friend of AXE were penalized for protesting against the murder of unborn babies.
And it's the genocidal totalitarian Left TODAY who are behind both the murder of babies and also the attacks against 1st Amendment rights.
---Haz27 on 5/15/18


Cluny, you have access to the web, several articles are written about it. The news from around the world covered it when it was discovered. This took place in Ireland over several years. No one has accused them of murder, only that they were flushed down a septic tank on the property. The tank was discovered with all these remains. DRs also did deliveries there too.

According to the Catholic belief, every baptized baby even one that died, gets baptized and a proper buriel. Not this. It outraged the Catholic community in Ireland when discovered. Nicole blew it off that maybe THOSE were Protestant babies...as if that excuses such horrible behavior, seeing the RCC believed "at that time" unbaptized babies go to hell.
---kathr4453 on 5/15/18


Here's a quote in the Guardian Cluny....it's already been acknowledged...so don't do what Nicole did.

The archbishop of Tuam, Michael Neary, says he is deeply shocked and horrified. Deeply. Because what could the church have known about the abuse of children in its instutions? When Irish taoiseach Enda Kenny was asked if he was similarly shocked, he answered: Absolutely. To think you pass by the location on so many occasions over the years. To think. Because what would Kenny, in Irish politics since the 70s, know about state-funded, church-perpetrated abuse of women and children? Even the commission of inquiry already under critique by the UN said in its official statement that it was shocked by this discovery.
---kath4453 on 5/15/18


KATHR. How's about focusing on the murder of babies that is happening TODAY thanks to the Left?

Stop deflecting back to historical atrocities when the levels of baby murder are FAR FAR HIGHER TODAY thanks to the Left. The baby murders of the past we cannot hope to change. But the baby murders of TODAY we can oppose through protests, our votes, etc.

It's best you stop trying to distract from the atrocities of the Left TODAY just because you yourself are a Lefty.

CLUNY and a friend of AXE were penalized for protesting against the murder of unborn babies.
And it's the genocidal totalitarian Left TODAY who are behind both the murder of babies and also the attacks against 1st Amendment rights.
---Haz27 on 5/15/18


Order of nuns that dumped up to 800 babies into a septic tank must be disbanded, says TD

Headlines in the Irish Mirror.

Yea, speculated this just tip of the iceburg , as only one of many Catholic run home for unwed mother's.... Could be some sites with over 7000 and counting.

These women were also kept prisoners as well.
---kath453 on 5/15/18




\\Another issue with our hypocritical Nicole is when I showed here the horrible atrocity of the Catholic Church Nuns in Ireland who flushed nearly 800 infant souls down a sewer, \\

Please give documentation for this.

If this indeed happened it was not because of the RCC, but IN SPITE OF IT.

In the last Baptist Church with which I was associated, the pastor was an adulterer and the minister of music had a taste for teenaged boys.

Does this mean that Baptist Church is horribly atrocious, and that those who are Baptists are hypocrites?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/14/18


\\strongaxe said, "I will also answer a question you didn't ask: "What does it mean?" It means "God-breathed"."

[john9846} Correct and thanks for that answer now according to the meaning of, "Theopneustos." \\

I said that, and before StrongAxe did, and you didn't say I was correct.

Why?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/14/18


Another issue with our hypocritical Nicole is when I showed here the horrible atrocity of the Catholic Church Nuns in Ireland who flushed nearly 800 infant souls down a sewer, without giving any of them a proper buriel ( regardless of their excuse of how they died) because she said most of them were probably Protestant ( this was a CC unwed mothers home) ....is to date the most HORRIBLE statement that has come out of this prejudice bigoted superior minded arrogant hypocrite person, it's disgusting. It's all over the Irish papers and all over the Papers in and around the world....yet because it affects her religion....she excused it or denied it.....

But she wants to harp on abortions here......like a hypocrite.....two faced hypocrite.
---kathr4453 on 5/14/18


Nicole, obviously you don't understand the art of sarcasm. So democrats TRICKED Black woman to get abortions? Do these women have no conscience of their own? SO Calvinism is true, that depravity is the real reason black women, are so totally depraved they don't even know it's wrong...so they are TRICKED into blaming Democrats for their decisions, rather than blaming themselves? If they don't believe God...THOU SHALL NOT KILL, and are pagan heathans in the first place....and totally depraved on top of that...WOW....making them no different than a dog without a soul. Do democrats also believe that Blacks are animals without a conscience....leading them off to the vets to get spade or neutered ? WOW!!! I had no idea!
---kathr4453 on 5/13/18


Kathr, Democrats comes in all races including Black people because they were tricked as K. West said.

But when Democrats who promoted Slavery were White Men.

Just as when Democrats Leaders made abortion legal were White Leaders.

Do you see how violent you are in suggesting more killing from Black Mothers?

Why?

I know, is it because you want the Mothers to go to Prison if they don't kill their babies?

Babies are dying because of a law PLACED BY DEMOCRATS!

Do you not CARE?

Will you only CARE when the leading cause of death for White Babies is abortion?

Will that get you to stop your smart mouth and get you to SHED A TEAR?

BTW,

HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/13/18




NICOLE. To clarify further, Australia's gun laws targeted auto and semi auto guns (not bolt/lever action or pistols). In gun buy back many people handed in any old gun to get cash.
The gun laws were knee jerk response due to Left's Fake News, politicians etc opportunistically taking advantage of a mass shooting to strongly push their political agenda, controlling the narrative and thus manipulating an emotional response.

KATHR. Why you would equate Jesus to Socialist Left NAZI's is beyond me.
Socialist Lefties like DEMs, NAZI's, etc, are the complete opposite of JC.

You're clearly on another one of your irrational, disjointed rants fired up because you were exposed for being a brainwashed minion for the Left.
---Haz27 on 5/13/18


OK so we have 2nd amendment gun rights, and so do black woman have the right to guns too. THEREFORE, I suggest every black woman use that gun to defend herself against the perpetrators forcing her to murder her offspring. She has every right not only to protect herself, but also her unborn child. So there's no excuse here. UNLESS BLACK WOMEN ONLY DO WHAT THEY ARE TOLD TO DO, still exhibiting a slavery mentality.

---kathr4453 on 5/13/18


NICOLE. The so called "Conservative" government in 1996 submitted to bullying from Left's Fake News, politicians, etc demanding tough gun laws.
Hence gun buy back, primarily targeting auto & semi auto.

But bolt & lever action, & pistols were ok if registered and owners passed background checks.

Yes, I have guns at home.

The lying Left can never be trusted.

Legal gun ownership increased since 1996 laws, and that without any increase in deaths, as was previous trend.

But we have seen an increase in illegal black market guns for criminal market. Thus we see the gun laws really only affected law abiding people.

As always, corrupt Lefties penalize good people, which helps evil.
---Haz27 on 5/13/18


Haz27, you'd so full of rap with a CAP C....it's not funny. EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID Is right in scripture. So according to you GOD is a liberal lefty Nazi Marxist left wing what ever. SICK!

Choose this day life or death...right or wrong .....

Also Haz27, you might want to familiarize your ignorance with Romans 1-2....WHY GOD BROUGHT ABOUT THE FLOOD.....and it had NOTHING to do with liberal left wing democrats....BUT SIN SIN SIN AND A SEERED CONSCIENCE they brought on themselves. Not one verse puts the blame on anyone but the very sinners and their choices.

So go stick a sock in your vile mouth....

Oh and PLEASE address Nicole's LEFTY LIBERAL BLEEDING HEART belief that only democrats believe in the death penalty.
---kathr4453 on 5/13/18


Bush has presided over the executions of 111 men and 1 woman, far more than any other governor in any other state since the Supreme Court in 1976 allowed reinstatement of the death penalty. Texas leads the nation in putting inmates to death, in 1997 it executed 4 inmates in one week, 8 in one month and 37 for the year, all modern records.

Here Nicole wants everyone to believe Cap Punishment is some horrible lefty liberal demonic democrat thing. IT IS NOT.

What else is she LYING ABOUT? And Haz27 silence on that lie makes him equally guilty of lying for not calling out his partner in crime in lying.
---kath4453 on 5/13/18


A 2015 national poll by the Pew Resource Center, Less Support for Death Penalty, Especially Among Democrats (Apr. 16, 2015). Pew reported significant drops in support for the death penalty among all political affiliations between 1995 and 2015 (see the chart to the right), with declines of 31 and 22 percentage points among Democrats and Independents, respectively, and a 10 percentage-point drop in support for the death penalty among Republicans. As of March 2015, 77% of Republicans, 57% of Independents, and 40% of Democrats said they favored the death penalty. 17% of Republicans, 37% of Independents, and 56% of Democrats said they opposed capital punishment.
---kat4453 on 5/13/18


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You are an American Holocaust denial.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/12/18

Really Nicole. Black women were taken out of their homes, forced into concentration camps, and forced to have abortions? Were they then sent into gas chambers afterwards? WOW! I guess I missed that.

Why are you blaming white people for your own poor choices. Sounds like you still have a slave mentality blaming white slave owners for your PLIGHT. EXACTLY WHAT K West SAID. You all made a CHOICE to abort your babies. There are no LAWS forcing anyone to get abortions, just like no one can FORCE me to smoke pot....which is also legal in many states.

JUST SAY NO. That's what we teach our children. So WHY is it you all can't say NO.
---kathr4453 on 5/12/18


Haz, are you all allowed to have guns in your homes?

I thought they confiscated them all, but Left Wing folks claim you all are got them back.

Is that true?
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/12/18


Nicole, listen, I have always been against abortion. It's a horrible thing to do. So I'm not minimizing this horrible act. I'm older than you, and remember when abortions were illegal in this country. Women who could afford it went to Sweden. ....or back alley butcher shops. And because of that, where so many died at the hands of quacks, it was made legal.....along with a Supreme Court ruling.

What it's done ALSO is its made immoral lifestyles easy to live....resulting in a quick, often times government paid abortion.

I personally believe that immoral living is what leads to abortions...and THAT is from personal choices. The devil NOR the democrats made them do it. THEY CHOSE TO DO IT, without regret.
---kath4453 on 5/12/18


KATHR. As usual, when you get exposed for being the obsessed neo Marxist DEMs disciple, you then try to deflect by conveniently hiding behind scripture.
It wont work.

You always ignore, minimize or deflect from the Left's genocidal baby murder, their constant lies, their racism, hate, bigotry, sexism, deviancy, heartlessness, and Christophobia, thus proving you are a brainwashed minion for your Leftist masters.

The Christian hating Left throughout the West dominate the megaphones of society, and you claim that somehow this control of speech/thought doesnt manipulate you, in spite of the fact that you actually parrot the same hate, bigotry, lies as that of the Left.
---Haz27 on 5/12/18


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Kathr: abortion has affected both the Black and White.//

Abortion ISN'T the leading cause of death for White babies!

//What else do you want to shift the blame on to Democrats for?/

For the most EVIL POLITICAL Party in America Party.

They BLAME them for Slavery!

I BLAME them for breaking up families!

I BLAME them purposely placing abortion clinics in Black neighborhoods!

//wanting horrible violent criminals to live off the Tax payers because your double minded lefty attitude does not believe in Cap punishment..//

That's right! Because I don't THINK like a Democrat!

KILLING SOMEONE ISN'T ALWAYS ON MY MIND!

As I told StrongAxe, you all LOVE to kill people who CAN'T fight back!
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/12/18


Kathr, WHAT? I am living my life!

You are in denial because I am telling you how my life is going INSTEAD of your false propaganda message you are giving Haz.

//Just because HAZ and Nicole and FOX news make such accusations does not make it a FACT.//

My life is factual! Because Haz happens to speak about embarrassing facts you don't like you are upset?

Listen! I don't believe White people owe me a THING! Not a penny, land or an apology because of the past!

But people on the Democrat side: White, Black, Hispanic or Native American who promote killing babies owe millions Americans Citizens an apology for our own horrible Holocaust.

You are an American Holocaust denial.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/12/18


Nicole, abortion has affected both the Black and White. I have never heard of a Democrat FORCING ANYONE TO GET AN ABORTION. What do they do...offer money for abortions? Give out free cars and homes to those who get abortions? Are they also responsible for getting Black women pregnant? What else do you want to shift the blame on to Democrats for?

OH and wanting horrible violent criminals to live off the Tax payers because your double minded lefty attitude does not believe in Cap punishment...YOU are the LEFTY ....wanting all these PLANNED illigitimate children living off the government. What would the Black population be IF every child was a legitimate child, not from a mother with multiple baby daddies?
---kathr4453 on 5/12/18


Nicole, abortion has affected both the Black and White. I have never heard of a Democrat FORCING ANYONE TO GET AN ABORTION. What do they do...offer money for abortions? Give out free cars and homes to those who get abortions? Are they also responsible for getting Black women pregnant? What else do you want to shift the blame on to Democrats for?

OH and wanting horrible violent criminals to live off the Tax payers because your double minded lefty attitude does not believe in Cap punishment...YOU are the LEFTY ....wanting all these PLANNED illigitimate children living off the government. What would the Black population be IF every child was a legitimate child, not from a mother with multiple baby daddies?
---kathr4453 on 5/12/18


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Nicole, you can read article after article on the subject. Living in denial of those facts, because it upsets your own false propaganda message...well....believe what you want Nicole. Facts are facts.

And Jerry...IM NOT A DEMOCRAT PROMOTING ANY DEMOCRATIC AGENDA.

Just because HAZ and Nicole and FOX news make such accusations does not make it a FACT. Read my previous posts....where is a democratic agenda in that? There AIN'T one....And only a MORON would think they see one.

Politics even conservative is NOT going to change 2 Timothy 3....Deal with it.
---kathr4453 on 5/12/18


Kathr: Heart disease is the leading cause of death for blacks.//

It is the leading cause of death for EVERYONE! So what!

Abortion is the leading cause of DEATH for Black Babies!

//So does that mean 70% of abortions are with Whites? it sounds that way to me, if your addressing ONLY abortions.//

???? I said Black people would be 30% of the population TODAY.

We are 13% of the population Now because of abortion.

If abortion WASN'T pushed into LAW by Democrats in 1973 and KEPT LEGAL by DEMOCRATS our population would be 30% today.

Do you understand?

The Black Babies KILLED via abortion promoted by Democrats in 1973 many would be ALIVE today to INCREASE our percentage from 13% to 30%
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/12/18


Kathr: It use to be not too long ago that Blacks had as many babies as they could, even encouraging their unwed teen daughters to have babies so they could live off the Government Welfare system.//

That's backwards. The Democrats invention to DESTROY Black families.

They told women they could NOT marry if they wanted assistance from the Government.

//And really, all these "baby daddies" coming from Black women have with multiple fathers .....seems predomitely coming from the Black Community.//

Watching too much Jerry Springer! They are Fathers NOT "baby daddies"!

//Just more hate directed at those you say hate blacks and are out to get blacks.//

Thank you for PROVING my point!
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/12/18


Kathr: You talk about freedom of speech, but the Communist Democrat Party has invented political correctness to stifle it. They are also at war with our freedom of religion (unless it's Islam). How can a Christian cling to a party of baby murder and sexual perversion?

Haz: Like Ephraim, Kathr is joined to idols: let her alone. (Hos 4:17) The brainwashed mind is a closed one.


---jerry6593 on 5/12/18


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Haz27, as a Christian, our MINDS have been transformed, and we now have the mind of Christ. Christians are not brainwashed, nor can they be if they are totally surrendered to the Lord, and are raised up with Him and are now seated with Him in Heavenly places IN CHRIST. Colossians 3:1-4 is who I am and where I am and what I obey.

I'm more concerned with false gospels brainwashing people where THAT is my focus. And sharing the Gospel...and THEN and ONLY then will GOD transform their minds and heart. All your SELF EFFORT, having no gospel in your rants is WOOD HAY AND STUBBLE.

I keep trying to tell you this, and you don't get it.
---kathr4453 on 5/12/18


Haz27, So preaching the Cross is Neo Marxism lefty propaganda? It's your own brainwashing that sees evil in everyone who doesn't support your crazed agenda and name calling. Accusing Christians obedient to the Lord and SEALED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, and indwelt with CHRIST IN THEM of being easy pray for brainwashing is actually BLASPHEMY against the Faithfulness of God protecting those who are HIS. WE are sealed until the day of redemption. YOU may never have experienced REAL Salvation and NEED to stay brainwashed yourself in political warfare, thinking its spiritual warfare. WRONG. Show me a verse where God can't constrain HIS OWN unless they ALSO submit to an earthly political agenda? Find it or SHUT UP!
---kath4453 on 5/12/18


Here what I see as really SAD. The BOC lives all over this world, in countries where just being a Christian gets you killed. Many of these countries are evil dictatorships, where there are no free elections and freedom of speech and thought. Yet even living under those extreme horrible circumstances, God keeps them, and so much so, they are so faithful to the Lord, they are killed and murdered for that. If brainwashing was so simple, even they would be brainwashed and submit to their governments and turn away from God. In TRUE Christianity, that just doesn't happen...not here in America or anywhere else. And all those folks have is CHRIST IN THEM, and hopefully the Word of God to keep their hearts and minds. If they can do it SO CAN WE.
---kath4453 on 5/12/18


KATHR. It's interesting to see how only you seem to be able to make multiple posts so quickly under CN's limits.

Perhaps you do honestly believe that you have freedom to choose, and that you have even done so.

But that's exactly why effective brainwashing works so well.
The subject's ability to think critically is reduced such that they honestly believe the ideals they're manipulated into embracing are somehow their own, through their own reasoning.

Such victims of brainwashing are clueless to their manipulated state of mind.

You have constantly demonstrated here on CN that you are obsessed with defending the neo Marxist Left's harmful political agenda. That says it all.
---Haz27 on 5/11/18


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Haz27, in america we have what is called FREEDOM to choose, or not to choose. Where Russia, NKorea, long ago Germany etc, they didn't/don't. No one in our country is forcing anyone to get abortions, not like in China where not too far in the past, families were penalized for having more than 2 children.

As Christians living in a secular world, an evil world we are not asked to change, we are accountable for the lifestyle and choices we make. Trying to control alcohol in the past didn't work. And that should be a lesson to us all. You cannot mandate what you feel is right for everyone. That's why we are a FREE people.

You sound like a crazed person Haz. Blaming others for FREE choices you don't like. I'm free to say NO.
---kathr4453 on 5/11/18


MONK. Due to CN's word limits bloggers here often shorten names, etc.

HT was shortened from the name Harriet Tubman (she had rescued some slaves long ago) who Kayne West (KW) had mistakenly attributed a quote to.
---Haz27 on 5/11/18


Deuteronomy 30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil,

Haz27, you have no idea who and what I listen to and believe.

Even God gave Israel a choice to choose right from wrong. He gave Adam and Eve that choice as well. SOOOOO Haz27, since God allowed Israel even under the Law to CHOOSE what was right rather that force it on them, we all today can be given that freedom as well. It's called FREE WILL.

And one day we are all going to give an account for those choices, both saved and lost. You CANNOT MANDATE RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Get your head out of politics HAZ and into the Word of God. You will give an account for bulling and slandering those in Christ.
---kath4453 on 5/11/18


Listen, scripture says that times are going to get worse and worse. It does not say it will get better IF Christains strong arm their governments. The Puritans tried that in England and got kicked out. NO scripture says we are to do that. What scripture DOES say is we are to stay OBEDIENT AND FAITHFUL to the end of our life amongst a wicked and evil world and generation ....any and all generations.

I do not believe we are to become obsessed like Haz27 in calling other Christians names, BECAUSE OUR CONSCIENCE and LIFE are NO LONGER PART OF THIS WORLD SYSTEM. We have OVERCOME this world .....and that is my final answer Haz27. Your bullying is of Satan. And your mandate is very ROMAN CATHOLIC DARK AGES and So is FOX NEW's mandate.
---kat4453 on 5/11/18


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KATHR. The Left's genocidal, racist and deceitful past record is still very much present with today's Left too. You just refuse to admit reality because you are an obedient follower of the Left.

You always ignore, minimize or deflect from the Left's genocidal baby murder, their constant lies, their racism, hate, bigotry, sexism, deviancy, heartlessness, and Christophobia, etc. This all proves how effective the Left's brainwashing has been on you.

The Left's Fake News, politicians, etc that you blindly trust, is who is controlling your mind, keeping it in slavery/prison, just as K West warned.

---Haz27 on 5/11/18


Well the past is past, and NOW we're in TODAY, where the biggest LIARS to date are Republicans. Not only that but seem to hold the record for immoral behavior and lost seats, elections, for their hypocricy. But, Haz27 and his elk will NEVER look at those FACTS. They, like Israel did, put their hands over their ears and say....NO NO WE WONT HEAR. WE DONT WANT TO HEAR.

It's been a proven FACT Trump LIES 61/2 times a day. All these lies are recorded. There are thousands of them since he took office. And he lied about the most recent...and then when caught in a lie....got RG to validate even more of his lying. And people just don't care. BAZAAR.
---kathr4453 on 5/11/18


SAMUEL. True, Socialist Lefty Hitler used hate & fear, but also lies & racism, to get people on his side.

The Socialist Left today are same as Hitler.

The Left are by far biggest liars. They dominate megaphones of society so their lies go far further.

BTW, the reason why the likes of Trump and myself hate many news outlets is because so many of them are dominated by lying Lefties, hence their rightly deserved name Fake News.

In Aust our biggest news outlet is the tax payer funded ABC. It's dominated by Lefties, hence they disregard its charter obligations on balance and impartiality.
Sadly the Left's swamp is so big in Aust that it's too hard to get corrupt Lefties at the ABC to obey the law.

---Haz27 on 5/10/18


Forgive me. I am slow and stupid. What does HT mean?
---Monk_Brendan on 5/10/18


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I have found that many Republicans make statements especially this President that have no basis in fact.

But I have seem some Democrats make the same kind of false statements also.

The reason Trump hates the news is that they when reporting facts get their facts correct. Some news channels have to much speculation and talking heads.

Trump claimed his crown was bigger a lie. Is lying okay from either side. NO.

So both sides need to fact check. But when the Republicans refuse to accept reality. That there is a problem. Hitler knew how to do that. He used hate and fear to get people on his side.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/10/18


Cluny, yes different mentalities are in fact the result of brainwashing....but that's no excuse. Some people actually do have a mentality to think things through, check facts, research, and THEN make up their own mind....not on who said what, but on facts. Intelligent mentalities vs blind leading the blind...or being a follower of your favorite guru's lies. Hitler is an example of blind hate propaganda that so many were brainwashed into believe in..HOWEVER, look at those who did not.

Brainwashed republicans believe the lie that democrats are responsible for murdering black babies. FACT......IMMORAL BLACK MOTHERS ALONE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MURDERING THEIR OWN BLACK BABIES.
---kathr4453 on 5/10/18


\\Your slavery mentality is all in your head.\\

And just where do you think different mentalities are found?

Happy Ascension (for those on the Western Calendar).

Christ is risen (for those on the Eastern Calendar)!
---Cluny on 5/10/18


Oh so KWest was talking about Black Abortions....gosh, I missed that. It use to be not too long ago that Blacks had as many babies as they could, even encouraging their unwed teen daughters to have babies so they could live off the Government Welfare system. And really, all these "baby daddies" coming from Black women have with multiple fathers .....seems predomitely coming from the Black Community.

Just more hate directed at those you say hate blacks and are out to get blacks. Your hysterical paranoid propaganda just doesn't fly here. Just more LIES to blame OTHERS for your own doing. What a cop out. No one held an AR15 to any Black woman FORCING THEM TO GET AN ABORTION. Your slavery mentality is all in your head.
---kathr4453 on 5/10/18


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Also Nicole, Jason Isaac's statement has been checked and found FALSE, just like K Wests.

Heart disease is the leading cause of death for blacks. So his comment didn't include that.

So does that mean 70% of abortions are with Whites? it sounds that way to me, if your addressing ONLY abortions. sounds like democrats hate white people more than blacks....HA HA.

Why won't you all check facts first and not believe EVERYTHING you hear as if it were true. You do know what PROPAGANDA is don't you? Only ignorant people believe everything they hear.
---kath4453 on 5/10/18


Kathr: KW is speaking to Black Democrats not me. The party that enslaved their fathers. Nicole/////

Ok so K West thinks he's using a HT quote to address Democrats?

And he's telling the Black Democrats that Slavery was a CHOICE? So is he saying to Black Republicans it was NOT a choice? So If slavery was a choice...WHY IS IT THE DEMOCRATS FAULT? He's saying it's the Blacks fault, because it was their choice. Democrats can't make anyone CHOOSE to be a slave. Now concerning abortions as well ....that IS your CHOICE. Don't blame the democrats for that either. Only cowards blame someone else for their own bad decisions. It's the TRUMP way. It's the Republican way....

Nicole, you still don't get it.
---kathr453 on 5/10/18


Kathr: KW is speaking to Black Democrats not me. The party that enslaved their fathers.

Killing a third of their babies.

If the Democrats wasn't in power the Black population would be 30% TODAY!

2014 the New York City Health Department said more Black babies were ABORTED than were born.

As Margaret Sanger declared would happened when she STARTED Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood wasn't started for families to plan their OWN families. Noooooo.

PPH was started for Racists to Plan other people's families.

It's all in her writings. Read them if you REALLY care about Black babies and are against abortion?

Haz has read Sanger's writings and he isn't American. See why I thanked him?
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/9/18


KATHR. Your racism, hate and bigotry all comes from being a brainwashed follower of the Left.

And because your Leftist masters attack K West, you therefore hate him too.
Thus, in spite of my quotes here from K West that clarify his message, you completely disregard it so you can maintain the delusional hate your Leftist masters want from you.

K West was right criticizing slavery of the mind. He went further to describe it as a PRISON (as the term "slavery" was commonly associated to blacks), to encompass how all of us, regardless of race, can be restricted by our views.

NICOLE, we see the same problem in Aust where the heartless Left hold their brainwashed followers & Aboriginals in a slavery of the mind.
---Haz27 on 5/9/18


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Haz, Exhibit A: Kathr: WHAT PLIGHT?//

Kathr, let me explain something to you. 2 people enter the abortion clinic. One comes out alive.

//who are "THEY"?.is killing 33% of black babies//

DEMOCRATS are the 'They'.

//YOU ARE.//

No, because I am a Republican

//YOU ARE because you don't KNOW you are in charge of your own plight.//

I said 'OUR' not 'my' plight. Tubman's plight was over but she WENT BACK to help.

//Your thanking the wrong person Nicole.//

Just like the White Slave Master who tried to convince the Slave freedom wasn't a good choice.

Death is ALWAY worse than slavery.

Just ask the Black aborted Babies.

Oh wait, you can't because they are DEAD!
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/9/18


WHAT PLIGHT? Your own by your own choice? It doesn't sound to me like Haz27 gets it at all.

So let's go with that.....no one ( THEY...who are "THEY" ?...is killing 33% of black babies....YOU ARE. YOU ARE because you don't KNOW you are in charge of your own plight. You created your own plight? You said, enslavement was bad but now worse? KWest said enslavement was your own doing because you were too stupid to know you were enslaved. What an insult to the Black race? Even Israel after 400 years KNEW they were slaves and cried out to God. So is K West saying whites are more intelligent than Blacks? And Haz27 agrees. Your thanking the wrong person Nicole.

You can't have it both ways Nicole.
---kathr4453 on 5/9/18


Haz, I don't think I have ever thank you for your understanding our plight.

THANK YOU!

You can see how even my own American brothers and sisters REFUSE to even ACKNOWLEDGE the past and current political actions taken towards Black Citizens.

Enslavement was bad but now it worse.

Today they just KILL 33% of the Black Baby Citizens.

ALL NICE AND LEGAL.

It hurts to see Christians defending their actions.

Prays for our Souls.

Because we have to answer for every single word said on CN.

Matthew 12:36

MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON US ALL!
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/9/18


Haz27, Anyone can write a biography of another (aka NOT an Auto-Biography, ) and NOT research facts true and false and put it in someone's biography...still does not make something true. The woman who wrote here fictionalized book was in and about the 1990, and where this BOGUS quote came from.

When it was circulating in the 1990's it was addressed AT THAT TIME BY HISTORIANS that HT never made such a statement.

K West...like yourself only repeats what you hear others say without checking FACTS. You both have issues in that department. Just like Trump also does.

So in your world, anyone who CALLS OUT FAKE QUOTES, AND LIES....you all call LEFTYS and Marxists Doesn't make that true either.
---kathr4453 on 5/9/18


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KATHR. All your bluff and bluster is really making you look quite delusional. It also proves that you are trying to cover over your hateful misrepresentation of K West's message.

I referred you to the Harriet Tubman biography web site (far more reliable than Fake "fact check" groups like Snopes) which claims that that quote of 1000 slaves may have originated in the 1990's.

Simply because this HT biography site contradicts the hateful lie you want to believe about K West, that proves how much bitterness the neo Marxist Left's propaganda has instilled in you.
---Haz27 on 5/8/18


Haz27, what you do is make yourself look foolish, by using a FAKE QUOTE, while many people exposing this fake quote, into your political verbal abusive nonsense. This FAKE QUOTE, has NOTHING to do with lefty's Marxists, name calling. So you just showed us all how everything ...even a FAKE QUOTE You seem to like becomes a political punching bag for anyone around you.

K West should have done his homework. Fact is HT never saved 1000 people in the first place. 70 families totaling approx 300 folks. That IS recorded history out of her own mouth. What is wrong with you? What it shows HAZ is you will believe ANYTHING , even a lie...and run with it...losing ALL CREDIBILITY IN ALL ARGUMENTS YOU HAVE HERE.
---kathr4453 on 5/8/18


Snopes fact check says its a false quote. And many historians have also for years said as much years ago showing it came from a WHITE female fiction writer claimed HT said it BUT had NO proof. She just made it up to sell books to promote feminism.

Comments like that do HT a great disservice. Also slavery itself. Your putting the blame on slaves for being slaves. Sounds like something a bigot racist white person would day.


Again, its a FAKE QUOTE. Deal with it.
---kathr4453 on 5/8/18


KATHR. We can all see that you're just trying to cover over your mistake of misrepresenting K West.

Your suggestion that the HT quote that the HT biography web site said they believed was thought up in the 1990's, is somehow absurd and causing you to go HA!, only confirms that the hate mongering Left's propaganda lies are manipulating you in a very bad way.

Again I suggest you get away from the deceitful Left's Fake News media, etc.
---Haz27 on 5/8/18


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Cluny, I did look it up and see that St. George and is a Melkite Catholic Church. It is Eastern Orthodox in full communion with the Pope. Meaning Pope Francis is their Vicar. No change as BEFORE the year 1054. So is ST. Elias Church

But you started this conversation saying we are called 'Roman' The Vatican has NEVER CALLED HERSELF 'ROMAN'

You all the rudest Christians I have ever met.

I ask you to STOP calling us a name but you all try to convince me otherwise.

I next asked you all to give proof. NO ONE TO DATE HAS GIVEN ANY PROOF.

StrongAxe, a Pope quoting a Saint word from word calling Her 'Roman' isn't the Vatican calling Herself 'Roman'.

If you are NOT CATHOLIC, please stop being our Spokesperson.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/8/18


Well Haz27, If it was a true quote, it wouldn't be something some one THOUGHT UP in the 1990's.Ha! Also when HT was alive, slavery in the USA was not 400 years old. AND slavery in general had been around for 4000 plus years. Besides, the quote is just someone's opinion, not fact. So there's my quote..Ha ha...HT only helped free 70 people anyway, not thousands. So only 70 knew they were slaves? Really? And did going north secure their freedom? NO,BUT LEAVING THE USA TO CANADA DID.

So in fact Slavery in the USA had to do with LAWS, and the slave owners RIGHTS. FEAR kept them as slaves. FEAR of being murdered. Even slave women had no rights to their own bodies. If that is a lefty comment....THEN IM A LEFTY AND PROUD OF IT.
---kathr4453 on 5/8/18


KATHR. Check out the Harriet Tubman biography web site as it's they who say its thought that quote started in the 1990's.

But your latest effort does not change the fact that you had falsely alleged that K West made up that Tubman quote.

Again I suggest you stop listening to the hate mongering Left's Fake News media.
---Haz27 on 5/8/18


Haz27, "its thought" is not proof of an exact quote. So go find the PROOF, IN ACTUAL WORDS, NOT THOUGHT. before giving lectures.
---kathr4453 on 5/8/18


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Nicole, here is a DIRECT cut and paste from the Melkite Greek Catholic site:

ST. GEORGE MELKITE CHURCH
425 16th Ave. S.
Birmingham, AL 35205-4540
Phone: 205/252-5788

Now, who told you that St. George's was Orthodox and not Melkite?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/8/18


KATHR. K West did not make up that quote from Tubman, as you falsely alleged. It's thought that the quote originated in the early 1990's.

But again we see you're still trying to misrepresent K West's actual message about slavery of the mind, which the DEMs impose upon blacks, (or as NICOLE puts it, the DEMs Political Black Plantation).

I suggest you stop trusting the hate mongering Left's Fake News media, etc. The authoritarian Left can NEVER, EVER be trusted.
---Haz27 on 5/8/18


Cluny: Nicole: St. George in Birmingham is a Orthodox Church.\\

No, it is a Melkite Greek Catholic church, as you can find if you look at the parishes in the Melkite Eparchy.//

Cluny, I have checked and I know for a fact I am not allowed to go St George Church to fulfill my Sunday obligation.

But I can go to St. Elisa.

Both Churches have great yearly food festivals.

//Birmingham is most unusual by having a Melkite church, a Maronite Church, and even a Lebanese consulate--but no Antiochian Orthodox church.//

I don't know about Antiochian, but it is an Orthodox.

Birmingham is growing.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/8/18


Haz27, first of all K West made up that quote....it was a FAKE QUOTE HT NEVER SAID, EVER.

You really need to keep up with ALL THE FACTS OF TRUTH.

K West is in many ways and for many years is off the chain with some of his comments.
---kathr4453 on 5/8/18


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\\St. George in Birmingham is a Orthodox Church.\\

No, it is a Melkite Greek Catholic church, as you can find if you look at the parishes in the Melkite Eparchy.

Birmingham is most unusual by having a Melkite church, a Maronite Church, and even a Lebanese consulate--but no Antiochian Orthodox church.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/7/18


KATHR. My post used quotes from K West that clarified his message, and thus clearly exposed the falsity of your hateful allegation that he's either an Oreo or an idiot.

Your response could have either been to accept the facts and admit that the Left's Fake News, etc, that you relied upon had lied to you, or alternatively you could deflect from the facts and instead continue to loyally follow the deceitful Left.

I see this latter option is the choice you made.
---Haz27 on 5/7/18


//If you live near St. George's Melkite Church in Birmingham, ask the pastor.//

I did and have gone, but you mean St. Elias not St. George.

St. George in Birmingham is a Orthodox Church.

You also mean Maronite Rite not Melkite Rite.

St. Elias a Maronite Rite has the only Mass schedule I could attend so I got permission from my Priest and Their Priest. Both told me the same thing.

I only went once and it was beautiful. But they said the Mass 1/2 in Arabic (Lebanese community and parts of the Mass were in different spots)
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/7/18


\\hey are ALL Catholics and NONE from Rome.

BTW, you are still writing it wrong. They are Rites.

Catholics in practicing the Melkite Rite, Maronite Rite or Chaldean Rite\\

WRONG, Nicole.

Canonically, they are sui juris CHURCHES in communion with--not under--the Pope.

If you live near St. George's Melkite Church in Birmingham, ask the pastor.

In the case of the Melkites, both the patriarch and bishops are elected by the Holy Synod, and hold authority from them, NOT from Rome.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/7/18


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Haz27, are you saying Slaves in the USA didn't know they were slaves? And Harriotts boasting she could free all slaves only if they knew they were slaves is rediculous. Just because HT made a statement doesn't make it true.

Cluny, It took divine intervention to free Israel, and more than just a mental issue. The mental issue was many wanted to go back into bondage AFTER they were free.

Also the slave traders were not the land owners in the USA. Slaves were considered PROPERTY, not citizens, and could be killed and beaten and chained at the will of the owner for just attempting to escape much less a lesser crime.

Probably the same in Egypt. That was also when Moses , now seeing himself a Jew was angry with the abuse.
---kathr4453 on 5/7/18


\\No black people had guns and AR15's to protect themselves against the ugly white man at that time forcing them into slavery.\\

kathr, the black Africans were sold into slavery by black Mahometan slave traders.

There is a slave mentality. After 400 years of being told what to do, the Israelites of the Exodus carried this mentality with them. Herman Wouk, and observant Jew, talks about this in his book THIS IS MY GOD.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/7/18


KATHR. Don't let hate mongering Left's lies control you. Instead check out K West's comments:

I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more IF ONLY THEY KNEW THEY WERE SLAVES.- quote from Harriet Tubman

the reason why I brought up the 400 years point is because we can't be mentally imprisoned for another 400 years. We need free thought now.

in school we need to learn how magic Johnson built his business NOT ALWAYS ABOUT THE PAST.


He pointed out black slaves were mentally in prison. Slavery of the mind.
K West is persecuted by authoritarian Left who enforce slavery of the mind.

NICOLE rightly opposes DEMs Political Black Plantation that keeps the minds of blacks in slavery.
---Haz27 on 5/7/18


No Nicole, because he made that statement about slavery being a choice. And has riled many black folks both Dems and rep for that comment. It's almost like being a holocaust denier in a way. Something ignorant people choose to believe, and hope others will, taking the blame off the powers of government.

The problem I have with K West statement is how stupid it is. Israel's 400 years of slavery was not a choice, and GOD had to interven and set them free, and slavery has been around for ever. No black people had guns and AR15's to protect themselves against the ugly white man at that time forcing them into slavery. The problem was, THEY HAD NO 2nd amendment rights....

So if K. West is not an Oreo, he's just an idiot.
---kathr4453 on 5/7/18


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Kathr: Is K West what's known as an OREO?//

Why would you ask that question?

Because he REFUSES to be a Democrat? Or he REFUSES to hate Trump as a Black man should according to your logic?

Or is it because Black Republicans are OREOs to you?

Yup Haz, some Democrats haven't changed their motto.

//So,why the heck are you blaming democrats for your own choice to be slaves? Blame yourselves....as K West said so eloquently ..---kathr4453//

Dear, he is speaking about you all getting mad when Black people walk off the Political Black Plantation.

NOT A REAL PLANTATION.

I am NOT a Slave. If I was I am sure my master wouldn't allow me to waste my time blogging during planting season.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/6/18


Who made the rule?
---Nicole

The authoritarian Left of the swamp who dominate media, Hollywood, universities, politics, Google, Facebook, etc have been long been setting the rules, persecuting any who refuses to submit to their oppressive PC tyranny.

The Left tell so many lies through these megaphones of society they dominate, that truth has little to no chance of catching up.

Sadly the likes of AXE, KATHR, etc actually believe the Left's lies and abuse.

Take KATHRS distortion of K.West. Kayne referred to the mindset of the slaves. West quoted I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more IF ONLY THEY KNEW THEY WERE SLAVES -Harriet Tubman.

The Left can NEVER be trusted.
---Haz27 on 5/6/18


Well according to K West, your slavery issues were your own choice to be slaves. And K West is a huge Trumpster. How do,you like those apples Nicole. A BLACK REPUBLICAN said there was no such thing as slavery , but a willing choice to be a slave, by your own free will. Is K West what's known as an OREO?

So,why the heck are you blaming democrats for your own choice to be slaves? Blame yourselves....as K West said so eloquently ..
---kathr4453 on 5/6/18


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