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Please give me a scripture reference that shows that God will take a backslidden Christian home if he doesn't respond to chastisement.

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I never heard of such a thing. And what home would he be taken to?
---Johnny74 on 9/9/18


the reason why a backslidden Christian NOT respond to 'chastisement' is bec. it is NOT chastisement or correction but stupid teachings, judging the one being 'corrected'. Christian church lack compassion & understanding but add more burdens. do that 'chastisement' to a greedy & lazy pastor & he will say 'ye not judge me' what stupid question. I have been there instead of Christians having compassion they are quick to say 'SIN' but they do not understand the problem
---mike on 6/6/18


StrongAxe: You wrote: I am telling her that somethings CAN NOT be explained with Scriptures. That is true. But you also wrote: You are judging. Matthew 7:1
You immediately jumped to a conclusion and accusation and judgment without possessing all the facts,//

I am speaking about her demand to have Scripture reference to PROVE the person isn't in hell.

I am not judging. I haven't condemned a person.

She condemned someone to hell.

//I'm the one who is supposed to calm down? You should be offering advice, not judgment.//

Yes, I see you haven't calmed down.

It ISN'T nice to condemned anyone to hell!
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/1/18


John 15:1-6 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine, no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered, and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Those not abiding bear no fruit.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/25/18


But a Christian will bear fruit. A person who pretends to be a Christian will not. Read Galatians.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/24/18

Okay Samuel, let me ask you a question.

What you posted seems to contradict with what Jesus says in John 15:2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away...".

To me, this verse indicates that everyone, everywhere are plugged into Jesus. This is confirmed in many places that say that Jesus keeps everything together, that everything lives and moves and has its being in Him.

Other people disagree with this idea and say that only Christians or Believers are plugged into Jesus.

What do you say?
---Mark_Eaton on 5/25/18




True Mark and Stephen.

But a Christian will bear fruit. A person who pretends to be a Christian will not. Read Galatians.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/24/18


The non-bearing fruit branches were thrown into the bonfire (back before the 1970s)...
---Steveng on 5/23/18

Exactly.

The audience of Jesus did not question where the removed branches went, because they already knew. Tending vines, plants, and trees was part of their everyday life.

We who are so far removed from an agricultural life, ask questions like that.

Actually, Jesus does state this but it must be connected by the readers. Jesus says you cannot bear fruit unless you are abiding in Him. Later Jesus says anyone not abiding in Him is thrown away, dries up, but is later gathered up and thrown into the fire.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/24/18


In agriculture, a farmer would prune / cut off branches that were not bearing fruit so nutrients can be directed to the branches to bear better fruit. The non-bearing fruit branches were thrown into the bonfire (back before the 1970s). Today they are thrown into the incinerator.

Using another agriculture analogy: The gentiles are the wild olive tree and those gentiles that believe in Jesus are grafted into the cultivated jewish olive tree.
---Steveng on 5/23/18


Please give me a scripture reference that shows that God will take a backslidden Christian home if he doesn't respond to chastisement.
---barbara_king on 5/20/18

I think the closest passage would be John 15. Specifically verse two seems to indicate we as branches, abiding in Jesus the vine, if we do not bear fruit, He (the Father) removes the branch. Which could mean (at minimum) two different things. One could be the person being removed is brought home to God. The second could be that the person being removed has their relationship with Jesus removed.

John 15:2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away, and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit"
---Mark_Eaton on 5/22/18


To me, Hebrews 12:4-11 means how God succeeds in correcting us who are His children. So, if someone keeps rebelling against what you suppose is God's chastening, this could mean he or she is not a child of God.

And worldly people die young while being stubborn, while others die old. So, I can see there is no set rule for what God will do with stubborn people.

But, also Isaiah 55:11 says God's word will do all which God desires. So, the word of His New Covenant will do all which God means, in us who are His children. So, I would not excuse any less, but trust God for how He is able to do all > He < means by His word, in us.
---Bill on 5/22/18




Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: I am telling her that somethings CAN NOT be explained with Scriptures.

That is true. But you also wrote: You are judging. Matthew 7:1

You immediately jumped to a conclusion and accusation and judgment without possessing all the facts, and I'm the one who is supposed to calm down? You should be offering advice, not judgment.
---StrongAxe on 5/22/18


StrongAxe: Barbara doesnt say whether this is something that has already happened or is yet to happen. You are reading things into the post that aren't there. You are just presuming that she's judging - and YOU are judging HER for that.//

Calm down.

She is ASKING for Scripture passage.

I am telling her that somethings CAN NOT be explained with Scriptures.

Just because we can't give Scripture DOESN'T mean the person is in Hell as she thinks.

Not everyone needs CHASTISEMENT to return to God.

Gentleness goes a long way.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/21/18


Nicole_Lacey:

Barbara doesnt say whether this is something that has already happened or is yet to happen. You are reading things into the post that aren't there. You are just presuming that she's judging - and YOU are judging HER for that.

There are many stories about people making deathbed confessions or deathbed repentances. There are also stories about people who think they can lead a reprobate life and just confess on their deathbeds and be saved - having their cake and eating it too - but then when they are actually on their deathbeds, find that they are unable to repent.

You are right about one thing - it's ultimately up to God to judge, because he has the facts, and it's not up to us, because we don't.
---StrongAxe on 5/21/18


One who thinks him/herself to be backslidden, simply thought themselves to have reached a point in their walk with the Father that He is yet to bring them to. Once a child of God is empowered to reach a given place within the kingdom of God, that one can be assured that the error in their thinking that once hindered them from advancing to that point has been dispelled by the knowledge of the truth they have been privileged to embrace. When one receives the reality of the Fathers atonement, (Restoration to Divine favor) thru the exchange of His righteousness for our sin, one realizes that it is no longer he who works, but rather the Father works in him, both to will, & do, that which pleases Him, & He does not backslide.
---joseph on 5/20/18


There isn't one. Are you trying to scare somebody?

Happy Pentecost (for those on the Western Calendar).
---Cluny on 5/20/18


A backslider, or one who has fallen away from the faith, is a christian who falls back into sin.

There are many warnings in the bible about backsliding and falling away. End time prophesy shows that in the end days many shall fall away from the faith (one must have faith to begin with before falling away).

One is either a christian or a sinner. One cannot be in-between, lukewarm. Read the Parable of the Sower.

And remember there are two resurrections - the first at the beginning of the thousand year reign or Christ and the second at the end.
---Steveng on 5/20/18


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Well, Barbara that is supposing that you KNOW he didn't respond to chastisement before dying making you God.

How do you KNOW he didn't repent seconds before dying?

He might have said "God have mercy on me" in his or her head.

You can't read minds.

You are judging. Matthew 7:1

That's why the Catholic Church states no one can say someone is in Hell.

Not even the Catholic Church can pronounce a name in Hell.

Just pray and trust in God.
---Nicole_Lacey on 5/20/18


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