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If you have not begun to do so yet, please pray for the upcoming meeting of Trump and Kim that the Lord will have it work according to His wisdom and purposes.

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I see Trump with his insulting nicknames as a perfect example of ridicule. I can't believe how twisted Haz is in his assessment that it's a democrat lefty shortcoming.
---kathr4453 on 6/21/18


Rule 5: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/19/18

And this is exactly what HAZ does. How do you not see that?
---NurseRobert on 6/20/18


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: Rule 5: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.

Isn't that EXACTLY what Haz27 has been doing in almost every single post? Calling everyone on the left almost every name in the book? Doesn't that make him a radical?

This is exactly how people avoid having to confront truth - rather than examining and dealing with actual facts, they resort to name-calling, as little children do, thinking that this somehow gives their point some measure of legitimacy.
---StrongAxe on 6/19/18


NICOLE. True, ridicule is one of the foremost methods of argument Lefties rely upon.

Lefties clearly dislike Facts and rational debate, and when confronted with such, they resort to ridicule, obfuscation, deflection, etc, to avoid it.
---Haz27 on 6/19/18


NurseRobert: Haz just keeps on proving my point. All he does is rant. It's a shame you cant see that..//

You just Proved my point!

No shame for insulting people.

As a True Leftist as Haz been saying you used one of Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals'

Rule 5: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.

Your example doesn't prove anything.

Plus, if you REALLY felt that way you would have insulted Kathr a long time ago. With plenty of her posted blogs as an example.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/19/18




Haz27's:

Your last message just proves NurseRobert's and my point. Your last message was 100% screaming at the Left, using your constant ad-hominem buzzwords like "brainwashed hate mongering Marxist Left", "megaphones of society", "controls public debate", "oppressive PC tyranny", "deceitfully abusing", "Leftist masters", "trumps reality".

You didn't in any way address the topic being discussed. You didn't in any way address what anyone here has actually said. All you did was rant at the left, as you always do.

You speak of megaphones, yet your comments are themselves nothing but one huge megaphone, as you're speaking to the world, but not to anyone here.
---StrongAxe on 6/19/18


Well actually HAZ the Right are also doubling down on Trumps bazaar behavior and praise God the Right are standing up and taking account. This is not a right or left issue, but a moral issue. But we see many extreme right are actually immoral in thought and action.

HAZ is addressing WHO? I see only immaginary foe in his delusional mind, brainwashed by the megaphones the extreme .
---kathr4453 on 6/19/18


Lacey... Haz just keeps on proving my point. All he does is rant. It's a shame you cant see that..


NICOLE. Lefties are so brainwashed, YADA YADA YADA
Haz27 on 6/19/18
---NurseRobert on 6/19/18


The Economy is not doing better than ever. The market is DOWN below what 2017 closed out as. This is the same propaganda garbage that floated around when Trump said they did more for PR than anyone else and that they were doing great..WRONG. and he fudged the death toll in PR too...67 vs more like 6700. Don't believe things just because Trump says so....His art of the deal BRAGGED on lying as an ART to make the deal. Please provide any bible verse to back that one up please.

But the blind will believe these lies and then when it's too late...what will you all do then. And even the job market numbers can be manipulated as well.

If everything is SO WONDERFUL, then let the DACA stay.
---kathr4453 on 6/19/18


NICOLE. Lefties are so brainwashed by hate mongering Marxist Left that hate rules them, not reason.

The Left dominate megaphones of society (Hollywood, universities, media, politics, Google, etc), and yet CN's Lefties conveniently fail to see how such control over public debate manipulates them.

The Left's oppressive PC tyranny has persecuted Conservatives for decades, deceitfully abusing them as somehow racists, bigots, phobic, without any foundation, whilst Leftists sell themselves as somehow virtuous..LOL. And when the likes of a Trump arises the Left double down on their hate, lies.

Lefties are narcissists, virtue signalling for whatever cause their Leftist masters command. Their feelings trumps reality.

---Haz27 on 6/19/18




Calling out FACTS as hate mongering is outrageous. Trump even now is EXERCISING his delusional Dictatorship stance by holding children hostage as a ransom to get his billions for the wall. This is NOT how our country operates.

Stating he wants HIS PEOPLE to sit up and obey the way Kim's people sit up and obey when he speaks......just isn't working here for Trump. It will all blow up in his face. His only base are the new Nazi mentality in America and the poles show that number on this issue is very LOW.

And adding 200 Billion to China Tarrifs may cause the NK thingy to blow up in his face too.
---kathr4453 on 6/19/18


Lacey....

Posted by HAZ on 6/18/18

AXE, NURSE, KATHR. Only authoritarian Islamists match the hate, bitterness of the authoritarian Left that you support.

Axe, Nurse, and especially Kathr, are hateful & bitter due to being so controlled by the hate mongering Lefts propaganda lies.

The Lefts selective outrage only exposes their hypocrisy and deceit.
---Haz27 on 6/18/18

Thus proving my point..
Have a wonderful day.
---NurseRobert on 6/19/18


People on the Left are the meanest even on a Christian blog website.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/18/18

Once again you are so funny :D

You should spend sometime looking in a mirror. Your responses are some of the most vile on this site.

Tell us, what names were you called??

The funny part is, you don't debate, you obfuscate and twist words to suit your right wing agenda.

And I have never tried to kick anyone off of this site. I simply said its futile to talk with HAZ because he has no other response but "left is bad, media lies". Thats all he has. Its funny because you are starting to use the same words. Much of a follower, Lacey?
---NurseRobert on 6/18/18


Nicole_Lacey:

I was referring specifically to Haz27, rather than you. For all our disagreements, you and I do often agree on things. Sadly, I can't say the same for Haz27.

You generalize with "you all on the left". Am I so mean? Do I call people names? (If not, you should not speak to me and say the words "you all"). Yet Haz27 (obviously NOT on the left) does it all the time. Instead of addressing issues, he frequently just resorts to calling us all brainwashed, mind-controlled puppets, etc.
---StrongAxe on 6/18/18


StrongAxe: I tend to be somewhat long-suffering, and it takes me a long time before I totally write someone off as completely irredeemable.//

What!

Please, you LOVE these debates and you know it!

Besides, you all on the left LOVE to control each other and others. Why?

You all are so mean. NurseRobert and Kathr are calling people names.

They can't debate so they try to isolate people just because they can't handle the debate.

Kathr even tries to convince the Moderators to kick people off CN when she is losing debates.

Now NurseRobert follows her lead by trying to get people to stop engaging others whom he disagrees.

People on the Left are the meanest even on a Christian blog website.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/18/18


Lacey - So you don't want a peaceful result from the summit??

-It was Clinton -

Mostly a false and misleading statement. Google "Clinton Nuclear Deal with Pyongyang" (BTW approved by a REPUBLICAN congress.

Mad? I'm glad he did, but you forget one of them was taken on Trump's watch.

NK has promised to denuke half a dozen times in the last 30 years. Where has that got us?

I support democrats who believe in a woman's right to choose, I also support republicans who believe in a woman's right to choose. I will continue to support a woman's right to chose until you pro fetus people stop blocking ways to prevent pregnancy.

You last sentence is so off the wall, it doesn't deserve an answer.
---NurseRobert on 6/18/18


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AXE, NURSE, KATHR. Only authoritarian Islamists match the hate, bitterness of the authoritarian Left that you support.

Lefties get upset and double down on their hateful abuse when Conservatives finally stand up against them, exposing their lies with facts.

Axe, Nurse, and especially Kathr, are hateful & bitter due to being so controlled by the hate mongering Lefts propaganda lies.

Funny how Lefties deleted their tweets over news photo of caged child illegals sleeping on floor, separated from their supposed parents, after it was revealed it was from during BOs rule.

Children are often used by illegals to pose as family when theyre not.

The Lefts selective outrage only exposes their hypocrisy and deceit.
---Haz27 on 6/18/18


Strongaxe I agree. I see many Rep leaders lawmakers taking a stand, Laura Bush, Rep Governors now refusing to send help to the border in defiance. His pride will be his downfall hopefully will lead to impeachment proceedings. Hopefully, JS will get the boot too.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/18


NurseRobert: That's funny. YOU'RE the one who supports Trump//

Supporting Trump doesn't make me wanting peaceful results from the summit.

//his kissy kissy with NK..//

It was Clinton who not only kiss up to his father but gave him MONEY and Nuclear technology capability without knowing if the NK was going to change.

But you are mad because Kim JongUn released American Captives WITHOUT a deal. Promising to denuke WITHOUT MONEY?

You SUPPORT Democrats who PROMISE to continue killing babies via aborting and you think it is funny for calling you sick?

I DO KNOW who you support from your posts on CN. You constantly criticize Anti-Abortion Politicians while speaking favorably towards pro-abortion Politicians.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/18/18


NurseRobert:

You're right. However, I tend to be somewhat long-suffering, and it takes me a long time before I totally write someone off as completely irredeemable. Also, everything people like that say are visible to third parties, and frequently, their arguments need to be refuted, if not for their sake (since they never listen), then at least for the sake of other silent parties who may be paying attention.


kathr4453:

I saw a meme saying that with Trump saying he HAS to separate kids because we won't give him his wall, he as now entered the "I have to hit the kids because you won't do what I say" abusive dad phase of his presidency.
---StrongAxe on 6/18/18


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Actually concerning the immigration issue, I see Trump as a Terrorist holding families and children HOSTAGE to use as leverage to get the money for the wall. It's blackmail. Please reference any other President who stooped so low to get what he wanted. I wish he'd ask for 1 Million dollars and a helicopter and leave the country. And giving into those demands we should do.

Seeking asylum in the USA is not illegal. And that's what many are doing at the border. Please know the difference. Jailing those seeking asylum and separating from their children have a special place in hell....
---kathr4453 on 6/18/18


Kathr... I encourage you to do the same thing I told StrongAxe... Stop responding to HAZ's repeated right wing rhetoric. He posts this because he knows you will. Every now and then he posts something that makes sense, then turns back to "the left is bad, the media lies..."

Your better off just ignoring him.
---NurseRobert on 6/18/18


Haz27:

That's rich, considering the considerable "hate and bitterness" you demonstrate towards the left in almost every single post.

The Left's Trumpophobia has really driven Leftists into a rabidly delusional state.

How is that unlike the Right's 8 years of constant Obamaphobia?

Meanwhile. just this week, both Trump and Sessions are doubling down on why it's NECESSARY to separate immigrant children from their parents, blaming the Democrats - on a policy Sessions HIMSELF instituted. So much for all the Biblical exhortations to not vex strangers
---StrongAxe on 6/18/18


NURSE. FYI, the Australia First party had a full blood Aboriginal political candidate.

I recall attending one of their meetings years ago and this Aboriginal politician confronted the brainwashed Lefties who were protesting outside the venue screaming out the Left's usual abusive lies about racism.

That Aboriginal politician gave up trying to reason with these abusive Lefties (who even called him "brother" in spite of the fact they accused his party of being racist, LOL) conceding that there's no hope for these brainwashed Lefties.

Sadly, brainwashed Lefties get so rattled when confronted with facts that rather than accepting reality, they refuse to engage with reality. You're just such a case.

---Haz27 on 6/18/18


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HAZ, why are your posts so full of hate. Please stop posting hate here. You post hate when people call you out and don't agree with you. You are projecting your own hatred here. Stop accusing others of what you are guilty of.

Telling the truth is not hate HAZ. Agreeing with you to compromise or keep the peace when one should be telling the truth is hate HAZ. Slandering others here on line is hate HAZ.

Falsely attacking Nurse Robert, Strongaxe etc is hate HAZ. You like Trump do not like being called out for your lies, and have learned to TWIST in order to try to defend yourself and take down those who call you out......THATS HATE HAZ.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/18


"He has done more good for the human race than any president since Reagan."

Jerry what good do you 'think' he has done for the "human race"?
---Josef on 6/18/18


KATHR. If you bothered to read my posts without all the hate and bitterness you harbor, then you'd see that I never said the Conservatives would save the world.
Instead I said that the Conservatives are the lessor evil compared to the Left.

The Left's Trumpophobia has really driven Leftists into a rabidly delusional state.

---Haz27 on 6/17/18


Strongaxe, why do you even respond to Haz.. He has nothing to say of any relevance. Being Australian, his opinion of what is going on in the US is inconsequential. I don't particularly care about his opinion of me.

He's a tired old man who repeats himself. He probably sits around with his friends in the Australian First Party thinking about how they can throw the aborigines out of "his" country.

You need to ignore him and stop responding to his nonsense posts.
---NurseRobert on 6/17/18


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Haz27:

In your last message, you take a few issues NurseRobert has supported, and from that, you (incorrectly) link him with all the baggage on the extreme left, much of which I am sure he does not support. You have done this to me on many occasions as well. Meanwhile, when someone supports Trump's effectiveness, you also denounce any attempt to link him to all the loathsome things he has done.

Your linking the good and bad on the left, while simultaneously denouncing those who link the good and bad on the right, is pure hypocrisy.
---StrongAxe on 6/17/18


Thank God for Donald Trump. We pray for him every day. He has done more good for the human race than any president since Reagan. And all this while being continually maligned in the media. I can't wait to vote for him in 2020.




---jerry6593 on 6/17/18


part of bigger picture that leads to Christs prophecy of end times, Matthew 24.
---Haz27 on 6/16/18

...and somehow you think the Republicans are going to SAVE THE WORLD? There is no such scripture to back up your outrageous claims HAZ. It's ALL EVIL. That's what will be so deceiving here...that so many who believe they are Christians will believe the Far Right ...where they will be the ones who exalt themselves as God, ....the APOSTATES. the COUNTERFEIT Christian.....the ones who love separating children from their parents and thinking kissing up to Kim is good, ......being unequally yoked with a dictator murderer....who never keeps his word.

Jesus didn't come to bring peace but a sword.....FALSE Peace IS ANTI-CHRIST.
---kathr4453 on 6/17/18


Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.
-Theodore Roosevelt
---kath4453 on 6/17/18


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NURSE. You support the Left with its genocidal baby murder, its deviancy indoctrination of children, LGBT agendas, and corrupt, deceitful, adulterous leaders. You are in no position to attack Nicole on her support of Trump on his effectiveness.

KATHR. At the risk of setting you off on another of your rabidly hateful, delusional rants, I remind you that Ive said often before I see Conservatives (Trump being one of the more effective ones) as lessor evil compared to the genocidal, authoritarian Left.
BTW, my criticism of the Left and its great evils, is not ramming Trump down your throat. I rarely talk of Trump.

But this worlds politics is all just part of bigger picture that leads to Christs prophecy of end times, Matthew 24.
---Haz27 on 6/16/18


Well, now Trump is in the same category as Obama re NK. YET, Trump was critical that we didn't get much from either. Such a hypocrite. And a braggart bully with NO ART OF ANY DEAL. The only sick people are ones defending Trump and Sessions....abusing the Word of God to try to justify their abuse. Our country is based on LAWS, not Bible verses taken out of context, once used by Hitler and to justify slavery. AND WHAT?
NOT A PEEP FROM NICKY OR HAZ.
---kathr4453 on 6/16/18


Nurse Robert and Kathr, you all are sick sick people.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/16/18

That's funny. YOU'RE the one who supports Trump and his kissy kissy with NK..

Do you honestly think that the meeting between Kim and Trump really accomplished anything?

Trump is the one calling Kim as "Strong, Funny and a great negotiator." Kim ordered the death of 140 senior NK officials to consolidate his power.

He speaks and his people sit up at attention, I want my people to do the same.

You no NOTHING about what I support. You support a twice divorced, 3 time married, serial adulterer who thinks Kim is a wonderful.
---NurseRobert on 6/16/18


Nurse Robert and Kathr, you all are sick sick people.

You all don't care about the millions of NK people are in camps starving or beat to death.

NO PEAK from you all when Obama DID the same thing with Cuba and Iran!

How do you all think they got his knowledge of making those nuclear sites? BILL CLINTON Plus NK is sharing that knowledge with Iran.

What would you all suggest? Nothing

People are dying, but all you all can do criticize.

Kathr: we have Haz and Lacey ramming this idiot down our throats...//

Haz didn't say word about Kim JongUn.

Cluny STARTED this blog asking us to pray. But you left his name out? Why?

I guess it was Cluny ramming Kim JongUn down your throat as you said!
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/16/18


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StrongAxe: Which has a bigger visibility?//

You mean VOLUME?

//A 3" ornament of Mao that is seen briefly, or Hitler on the front page of Time as Man?//

As you said, Man of the Year isn't STATING the person is good.

It also doesn't celebrated as a GOOD person.

You all complain about Catholics having statues of GOOD people who are SAINTS.

But now you all are BUSY trying to explain AWAY Obama's Christmas Ornament of Mao when it is a TIME of joyous excitement of God being born to us to SAVE us from death into life.

But nooooooo, the Obamas and their anti-God display (IN FRONT) a man who KILLED 100 million people.

????????

Stop making excuses and admit the Obamas were WRONG!
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/16/18


Nurse Robert, I have a question. Trump answered the press by saying he praised and saluted NK AND Kim because he doesn't want NK nuking us. Now tell me if I'm wrong
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But isn't that giving into terrorism...exactly what America is not supposed to do....cowering under threats? And we have Haz and Lacey ramming this idiot down our throats...
And making mountains out of molehills over ornaments. Geewizz.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/18


Responding to Nicole's off topic remarks.

What does everyone have to say about Trumps Comment, "He speaks and everyone sits up and takes notice. I WANT MY PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME

OH PLEASE VOTE THIS FREAK OUT OF OFFICE IN 2020.

WE ARE NOT "HIS PEOPLE",people. Nicole thinks I'm insulting DT. A TOTALLY HILARIOUS STATEMENT.

Also this is not Gods will Cluny.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/18


Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/14/18

Simply responding to Lacey's off topic remarks.

I'm not sure who's will and purpose of the meeting was served. Trump claims NK is going to denuke. NK made NO such promise.

NK agree to denuke in 1985, 1992, 1994, 2005 (after violating agreements made in 1994), 2011, and 2012. What makes anyone think they are going to agree to do it now?In the mean time, Trump alienates all of our European allies and our neighbor to the north.

God works in mysterious ways and he doesn't always tell us why.
---NurseRobert on 6/15/18


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Kathr, Cluny was asked you NOT me. BTW, it was you who started insulting Trump instead of praying.

Because of you we all went off topic! Calling people names as usual.

LOOK BACK on the 7th and see how everyone agrees to pray, but you started calling names instead.

StrongAxe even had to ask you who was RG.

***Both are capable of treachery, which will be concerning. And now after RG shot off his ignoramus mouth,( can he get anymore senile) who knows what or even if its still a go. OR maybe RG did that on purpose with approval, just to have it called off, where Trump will be able to personally save face, because of other issues coming up that wasn't originally in the works. Lets wait and see.---kathr4453 on 6/7/18
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/14/18


\\ or Hitler on the front page of Time as Man of the Year 1938?
\\

Actually, his pic was on the cover.

TIME's "man of the year"--now person of the year--is NOT an award.

IT's merely expressing the opinion of TIME about who has had the biggest influence on world events and the news--for good or ill.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/15/18


Nicole_Lacey:

You wrote: Okay, but they don't make an ornaments of the loathsome people.

Which has a bigger visibility? A 3" ornament of Mao that is seen briefly, or Hitler on the front page of Time as Man of the Year 1938?

Kim Jong Un has ACTUALLY EXECUTED over 350 people in 8 years, but Trump thinks his people love him, and you have no problem swallowing that camel while choking one Christmas ornament.

And don't make "would be" straw arguments and blame us for them. Blame us for what we ACTUALLY say and do.

Why are you so OBSESSED about this one ornament, as much as you were OBSESSED about the word "Roman"?
---StrongAxe on 6/14/18


Trump keeps trying to blame others for this problem.

I am glad the talks started well. I hope the deal works.

But I still hope he is voted out of office.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/14/18


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Really Cluny, can you explain what Nicole's comments have to do with the blog statement? At least I mentioned the meeting, and hoe strange some things are...not to mention Trump saluting the NK military ....
---kathr4453 on 6/14/18


When Mao's ornament is front and center of tree Michelle was aware

//Time sometimes has loathsome people as Man of the Year//

Okay, but they don't make an ornaments of the loathsome people.

You and Kathr wouldn't be so understanding if Trump made a Nikolas Cruz ornament.

You would be mad at a man for killing 17 but not a man killing 100 million?

So stop making excuses for the Obamas.

Kathr: I wonder if Kim will be on Trumps next Christmas tree ornament....another who has murdered and starved millions of his own people//

Why wonder?

It's the Obamas who puts murderous people starving millions of his own people ornaments not Trump.

But since you don't care why should you start now?
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/14/18


Cluny:

Because every discussion on these blogs gets hijacked into a totally unrelated topic within a few days. :)


Nicole_Lacey:

Never?! Do you honestly think children will prefer to cling to their kidnappers?

You seem to assume that it's totally OK to separate thousands of children from their parents on the "off chance" that they MIGHT be kidnap victims?! If people risk their lives crossing hostile countries, swimming across rivers, and crossing deserts, and do so with children, are they more likely to do that with their own children, or somebody else's?

Jesus said the true shepherd gives his life for his sheep, unlike a hired worker. It's the same with parents and their children.
---StrongAxe on 6/14/18


StrongAxe, let me tell you what happened to my cousin's 6 month old girl. My dad was flying to Puerto Rico, but she couldn't afford the ticket. She wanted her daughter to see her grandmother for the 1st time. So she gave her daughter to my father. The baby cried all the way to PR.

But in PR she started crying when her grandmother took her from my dad. The baby was CLINGING to my father's neck refusing to go to her grandmother.

Everyone would have assumed my dad was her father.
Days later when my dad went to see the grandmother. The baby reached for my dad begging him to take her.

BTW, the baby NEVER seen my dad prior to the flight to PR.

Children's reactions SHOULD NEVER be an INDICATOR of who's their real parent.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/14/18


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Nurse Robert and kathr, what do your questions have to do with my suggestion that we pray for the summit meeting of Trump and Kim?

I don't see a connection. Maybe I'm stupid, but please explain.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/14/18


I'm more concerned with criminals Trump is hooked up with. Anything to distract from the REAL ISSUES. I wonder if Kim will be on Trumps next Christmas tree ornament....another who has murdered and starved millions of his own people ... Do you think this meeting WAS according to Gods wisdom and HIS WORD? or do,you think it was so Trump can win his NPP? But after insulting our allies and sucking up to dictators ...what's up with that....was that intentional ( wanting Russia back in the G7) just before visiting Kim to send Kim, and Russia some sort of message. ( Russia and N Korea are tight) ....Something STINKS in Denmark so,the saying goes. Somehow Christmas tree ornaments with AW painting of Mao is not a present evil threat here.
---kathr4453 on 6/14/18


Nicole_Lacey:

Fox didn't examine 799 others to see context, but judged Michelle on that one, as you do. Time sometimes has loathsome people as Man of the Year - not because they're good, but because they influenced history (e.g. Hitler 1938).

Snopes couldn't verify or disprove freight train part, but Sessions BOASTED of separating children from parents as a deterrent to illegals.

ICE may not know who kids' mothers are, but kids do! ACTUAL children TODAY are torn in tears from their Latino mothers, and taken away, many never to see family again. I thought you as a Latino woman might find this more outrageous than ONE SINGLE Christmas tree ornament that hurt nobody and nobody would have noticed except for Fox's dirt digging.
---StrongAxe on 6/13/18


First Lady herself directed the groups what to do and she was AWARE and APPROVED all ornaments.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/11/18

One, I doubt that very much. You actually think Michelle Obama look at all 800 ornaments?

Two: We took about 800 ornaments left over from previous administrations, we sent them to 60 local community groups throughout the country, and asked them to decorate them to pay tribute to a favorite local landmark and then send them back to us for display here at the White House, M. Obama

The picture of Mao was actually a picture of a painting by Andy Warhol. The right wingers (Hannity) looked foolish then, and they look foolish now.
---NurseRobert on 6/13/18


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StrongAxe, have you forgotten Prince Reid? His excuses for lying on the floor to get Obama re-elected? The Democrats getting rid of 60 votes for the nuclear voting?

//Perhaps Michelle didn't think ornaments were such a big deal,//

Adoring a man killing 100 million people isn't a big deal? Oh right, since killing American babies is good, why care about Chinese people?

//Trump's ICE is ripping children away from their mothers and literally put onto freight trains,//

Literally a LIE! Cite that freight?

Do you want the children to be in an Adult Detention?

Besides how do we KNOW these are their children? Because they crossed the border?

They could be kidnapping them and fleeing into another Country.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/13/18


Nicole_Lacey:

Yet the very same right that exhorts the left to cooperate with Trump are the very same ones who were constantly condeming Obama for almost everything he did. The very same Republican senators who criticize Democrats for obstructionism in confirming Trump appointees systematically not only blocked Obama appointees, but refused to even give them a hearing (e.g. Garland).

Perhaps Michelle didn't think ornaments were such a big deal, yet this is a gnat you're obviously choking on. Trump's ICE is ripping children away from their mothers and literally put onto freight trains, never to be seen again (sound familiar?), and you're worrying about Christmas ornaments?
---StrongAxe on 6/12/18


Thanks NurseRobert

//when conservatives attacked the White House over Christmas tree decorations.//

Of course. Do you think the Left would criticize Obama?

//Breitbart suggested the White House was making "some political statements" by having "Transvestites, Mao And Obama Ornaments Decorate White House Christmas Tree."//

Yes, because Michelle said so herself. Goggle it and Fox news still has the link to the 2009 White House website.

//Fox News itself noted that the "first lady's office says local community groups..but that they are unaware of these specific decorations."//

First Lady herself directed the groups what to do and she was AWARE and APPROVED all ornaments.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/11/18


It was during Christmas 2009, when conservatives attacked the White House over Christmas tree decorations. Breitbart suggested the White House was making "some political statements" by having "Transvestites, Mao And Obama Ornaments Decorate White House Christmas Tree."

In reality, Fox News itself noted that the "first lady's office says local community groups were asked to decorate hundreds of ornaments but that they are unaware of these specific decorations."

Much ado about nothing...
---NurseRobert on 6/11/18


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Nicole_Lacey:

All I hear is a brief one-line factoid from you. You didn't say where the ornaments came from, who bought them (maybe they were a gift to the white house from a foreign government?), when they were bought or anything else. You provided no links to information - and then you expect me to render judgment on such flimsy information, and you're actually outraged when I DON'T leap to snap judgment?!

You wasted your last ENTIRE MESSAGE railing about this, providing lots of your opinion on it, but no actual concrete facts that would allow OTHERS to form their own informed opinions.
---StrongAxe on 6/11/18


Haz, it is also sad that I have to explain how having a killer on an ornament is WRONG.

StrongAxe: You infer Obama's opinion based solely on a close-up of a single photograph?//

If the picture was of Hitler would you understand now?

Even though Hitler killed 10 million at the most when Mao killed 100 million.

//Do you know how or when those ornaments got there? Do you have anything more substantial?//

The fact that they KEPT the ornaments for the next 7 Christmas tell us what is truly in their hearts.

//Who is the REAL communist?//

When Trump puts an ornament of ANY KILLER on his Christmas tree, we can start the comparison.

I DIDN'T say red ornaments, but the COLOR red ALL year long.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/10/18


Besides, note how they love the color red.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/9/18


Is this your thoughts Nicole, or was this something you heard some conspiracy theorist say? Just like Trump believing asbestos poisoning was cooked up by the Mob because they have businesses taking it out of bldgs. ( they also collect garbage) Yet in 52 countries asbestos is totally illegal, having nothing to do with the American mob. We need folks making decisions on facts not conspiracy theories.

Start using your own head Nicole, and stop repeating others nonsense. I looked it up....and it was NOT your original thought, but that of the far right propaganda machine....and totally lame at that.
---kathr4453 on 6/10/18


NICOLE. regarding Communist leaders, recently in Europe the E.U. leader, Jean-Claude Juncker, gave a speech in Trier Germany to celebrate the 200th birthday of Karl Marx, the founder of International Socialism (Communism), which was responsible for over 100million deaths.

The Communist Chinese government even donated a giant bronze statue of Marx to celebrate the exhibition. Also the Communist Vietnamese leader gave a gushing commentary celebrating Marxs birthday.

Understandably many people were unimpressed that totalitarian political leaders would praise the founder of an ideology that resulted in over 100 million deaths.
---Haz27 on 6/9/18


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Nicole_Lacey:

Exactly how many millions were murdered is irrelevant to the point that all those murdered were more persecuted than Trump.

You infer Obama's opinion based solely on a close-up of a single photograph? Do you know how or when those ornaments got there? Do you have anything more substantial? (Trump praised communist Chinese having a president for life, and hopes we can do that here too. Who is the REAL communist?)

Of course they like red ornaments - read and green are THE two Christmas colors! Reading communism into red Christmas ornaments is a ridiculous stretch. You might as well say Jesus was a communist because the Blood of Christ is red - such a conclusion would be equally preposterous.
---StrongAxe on 6/10/18


StrongAxe: The 5-7 million is only during 3 years 1933 to 36.

I was speaking about during his whole time in power up to his death in 1953.

I saw a documentary, but the 2006 article I am going to cite exactly states up to 65 million.

'How many did Stalin Really murder?' The Distributed Republic.

//you get the idea that Obama and his wife love Mao?!//

From the 1st official White House Christmas picture of them standing by the Christmas tree.

If you look closely at the Christmas ornaments you will see red balls with Mao's picture on them.

They kept the ornament balls for other Christmas trees even after many complaints were sent to the White House.

Besides, note how they love the color red.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/9/18


Not only pray for this but for all Americans who have issues with asbestos in their homes and businesses. Where is the wisdom there? Trump thinks its a conspiracy run by the MOB. Well, that would make garbage in NY and NJ a conspiracy issue as well. standing garbage in the streets left to rot is NOT going to hurt you, because the MOB only said so so they coud make money picking it up. Same with Proabition. It was the MOB who said it was bad for, having it personally banned JUST SO they cound illegaly sell it to you. THIS is our moronic president's mindset. God help us all.
---kathr4453 on 6/9/18


Trump may believe he is above the law..BUT he's NOT ABOVE GOD.
Proverbs
29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.

7 The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: but the wicked regardeth not to know it.

8 Scornful men bring a city into a snare: but wise men turn away wrath.

11 A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards.

12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.

14 The king that faithfully judgeth the poor, his throne shall be established for ever.
---kathr4453 on 6/8/18


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Actually Trump is going out of his way to be the most persecuted...if that's the true definition of people being totally annoyed with him and his lying and Wishy washy stance on any given day, only to,change his mind and so on. There's a verse...the people GROAN when an evil man is in power......so I say people are groaning .....and not persecuting.

Leave persecution to the upright and righteous and Godly in Christ Jesus. 2 Timothy 3. That kind of persecution does NOT define Trump.

But again, those were Trumps own words where his sheep will believe his every word because they have no mind of their own. Blind following the blind, blind leading the blind. So sad. So very sad.
---kathr4453 on 6/8/18


Nicole_Lacey:

He didn't say "any president in history". He said "ANYONE in history". He should choose his words carefully, but he never does, always shooting his mouth off without worrying about accuracy or consequences. But even given that, I'm sure Presidents Lincoln (the founder of his own party) and Kennedy and a few others who have been assasinated, and Ronald Reagan, who was almost assassinated, would ALSO disagree.

From Wikipedia article on the Holodomor - 7 million Ukrainians dead, 10 million dead in entire USSR. Where do you get your 50-70 million figure?

Where exactly do you get the idea that Obama and his wife love Mao?!
---StrongAxe on 6/8/18


StrongAxe, really, I couldn't figure it out RG either.

//(E.g. Trump claiming that he has been persecuted more than anyone else in history.//

You all so disingenuous. You know he was speaking among Presidents.

Now if you kept it in the realm of Presidents, you could have said it wasn't true because other Presidents were assassinated you would be correct.

But, nooooo you went to the Jewish holocaust. REALLY?

//8 million Ukrainians under Stalin, and many others throughout history would beg to disagree).//

I beg to disagree with your numbers.

50 to 70 million Ukrainian were killed under Stalin not 8 million.

100 million in China under Mao. The man whom Obama and his wife love so much.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/8/18


kathr4453:

You wrote: Rudy G.

Oh DUH, that was so obvious that I should have figured that one out! Thanks!

has to be the most moronic statement to date

Given how many totally insane statements have come out of this administration, it's really hard to categorize any one of them as the MOST moronic. (E.g. Trump claiming that he has been persecuted more than anyone else in history. I'm sure 6 million Jews and 6 million others in the Holocaust, 8 million Ukrainians under Stalin, and many others throughout history would beg to disagree).
---StrongAxe on 6/8/18


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Rudy G....the unofficial loose cannon shooting off his mouth making rediculous comments here and there, can actually have some effect ....but it would appear by now NK would have spoken up.

To give a news report that Kim was on his hands and knees begging Trump to reschedule the summit and that is exactly where we wanted him.....well, has to be the most moronic statement to date when this summit has already been cancelled once because of supposed insults from their side. It made me wonder IF it wasn't intentional in hopes NK would cancel... Re:unexpected expenses, sonic warfare , or other issues we may not know about. Let's wait and see.
---kathr4453 on 6/8/18


kathr4453:

Who is RG?
---StrongAxe on 6/7/18


Both are capable of treachery, which will be concerning. And now after RG shot off his ignoramus mouth,( can he get anymore senile) who knows what or even if its still a go. OR maybe RG did that on purpose with approval, just to have it called off, where Trump will be able to personally save face, because of other issues coming up that wasn't originally in the works. Lets wait and see.
---kathr4453 on 6/7/18


While I don't care for Trump. He is still the President of the United States and I pray for him.

I will especially pray for him for the talks with North Korea. I pray he will succeed.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/7/18


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Indeed. Everyone should want the peace talks to work for the safety of the world
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/7/18


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