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70 Week Prophesy Of Daniel

Does the 70 weeks time prophesy of Daniel 9 include a gap of thousands of years? This hardly makes sense. Yet a pretri rapture and 7 years of tribulation does that.

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It's silly to say God can't fulfill His promises to Israel because humans created a different calendar. Israel still uses their own along with the one we use today anyway. But even if that weren't so, NOTHING can twart Gods promises. Not even new doctrines that want to erase those promises to Israel, or spiritualized them away, or claim them for their own, claiming to be the New Israel. Sorry folks, but you don't want to do that. This has to do with Gods wrath dealing with them going all the way back to worshiping the Golden Calf. It's not about the Church, the BOC. God promised to revisit that sin upon them....IF you know how to read scripture and prophecy. Just because you don't, doesn't mean it's not gonna happen.
---kathr4453 on 6/28/18


There are two main views on the Second Coming. The more modern one is the Pretribulation rapture with the seven years from the 70 weeks cut off and placed in the future. This is based on Dispensationalism. A current major view.

But I cannot agree. For the Seventh weeks is over. There is not gap. There is not near enough room to discuss this here. But to continue. I and other follow the Covenant viewpoint. Which places the next event not in two parts but one. The rapture is the Second Coming. That the church goes through the tribulation. AGape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/28/18


faithforfaith:

What?! Just what part of the Old Testament would that be? The last part so the OT were written around 400 BC, and Armageddon is the end of the *NEW* Testament, and hasn't happened yet.

Anatoly Fomenko was a pseudoscientific crackpot whose historical theory is not taken seriously by any serius scholars because it uses dubious methodologies, and is also inconsistent with all historical evidence. Rohl's chronology is also rejected by serious scholars.

in 1582, Pope Gregory instituted a calendar reform that introduced a correction of one day every 400 years, which included a 10 day shift to retroactively fix accumulated error since Julius Caesar created his calendar - NOT 300 years.
---StrongAxe on 6/27/18


Matthew 24:15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
These are Jesus words...it does not say..." If you see something LIKE what was spoken in Daniel"

Not enough space to put the ALL of Matthew 24 here, but the WHOLE CHAPTER along with Matt 25 has not been fulfilled, not even in 70ad. There is SO MUCH MORE than the Temple being destroyed that is TO COME. Bits and pieces are not the way to go. Many Christians made the same mistake re Hitler.....which did look like it was the beast ....but much of the total package of prophecy even then had not been fulfilled, which again, did not fulfill the end times.
---kathr4453 on 6/27/18


Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass, and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Revelation is the revelation of Jesus Christ. This revelation was sent to John, ((not some OT Saint, where some writings were confused by claiming the Catholic Church messed with time.)) John was one of Jesus apostles, taken and shown things TO COME, just as Paul was taken up and shown things as well.

The answer to the question is ..(whether you believe in a rapture or not,) there are 7 years of prophecy yet to be fulfilled that centers around Israel....Romans 11 also back that up this fact.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/18




Genesis 49:1And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

2 Gather yourselves together, and hear, ye sons of Jacob, and hearken unto Israel your father.

Here we have prophecy of THE LAST DAYS....pointing to Revelation concerning Israel. Just as Genesis 3:15 was prophecy concerning the promise of the Messiah, fulfilled ...how many years later???? Approx 4000, that promise ALSO includes the end...Revelation. Matthew 24-25 ALSO foretell of these last days...Zechariah 12-14...Isaiah 14...

So NO it never happened in 1400bc. If it did we'd all be in the new heaven and earth today.
---kath4453 on 6/26/18


Sorry, but Revelation, not even Revelation 16 is a recount of the past. ...especially a past before the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Prophecy means FUTURE. Revelation would not be about Prophecy if it was something that already occurred. Revelation is also NOT a history lesson. That's like saying Isaiah 53 was NOT about Jesus...but someone at that time or prior to that time. Just like Jesus said the last days will be like Noah, there are many instances in scripture that events happened to warn about THE FUTURE...AKA THE LAST DAYS.
---kathr4453 on 6/25/18


The Old Testament text ended with the Battle of Armageddon (Battle of Megiddo, Rev. 16:16)...,look it up at Wikipedia) that occured in 1479 B. C..

As far as TIME and the recording of history, the FOMENKO chronology (a chronology is a timeline of histporical events), and the ROHL chronology are just two examples of PHONY HISTORY (and the age of time has ended also). Pope Gregory changed the calendar by 300 years in something called PHANTOM time (look all this up at Wikipedia). We cant be COMPLETELY SURE about any part of the past (the only sure things in life are death and taxes).
(.....we BELIEVE/faith in God, dont we?, and we have the ability to reasonably and logically doubt the lies).
---faithforfaith on 6/25/18


I'm sure most regular readers have figured out that I don't believe in a pre-mill, pre-trib rapture.

This does NOT mean I don't believe in the imminent personal return of our Savior.

I believe that He will return, and all the prophecies concerning His second coming will be fulfilled as literally--and unexpectedly--as those of His first coming.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/21/18


How can I distinguish Bible Prophecy from what is a regular occurrence!
I haven't read the prophets in years! Is is supposed to be a major disturbance or an unresolved issue or maybe recurrent like many issues?
---Lanre_Enilo on 6/20/18




The Prince came and ended the Old Covenant and sacrifices became worthless. His name is Jesus the Christ the Prince of peace.

Most people don't know this doctrine was developed in the 19th century to help take the heat off the Pope.

It is part of Darby's dispensationalism. A doctrine that does not follow the Bible.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/20/18


Whether it makes sense or not, it's fact. The prince that is to come, [Daniel 9:26], is not yet. This prince, is a future ruler of the people that 'destroys' (perverts and corrupts morally) the 'city' (as a guarded place of waking) and the 'sanctuary' (that place of holiness and sacredness) that has been founded in the children of God through the sacrificial atonement of Jesus. "The prince who is to come", [whose people destroyed the temple in 70 AD], will confirm the covenant [of animal sacrifice and offering], then bring them to an end in an attempt to validate himself as the Jews savior. "Even until the consummation".
---joseph on 6/20/18


Whether it makes sense or not, it's fact. The prince that is to come, [Daniel 9:26], is not yet. This prince, is a future ruler of the people that 'destroys' (perverts and corrupts morally) the 'city' (as a guarded place of waking) and the 'sanctuary' (that place of holiness and sacredness) that has been founded in the children of God through the sacrificial atonement of Jesus. "The prince who is to come", [whose people destroyed the temple in 70 AD], will confirm the covenant [of animal sacrifice and offering], then bring them to an end in an attempt to validate himself as the Jews savior. "Even until the consummation".
---joseph on 6/20/18


Sorry, that was a typo. It should have read 70 x 7 = 490 years.
---barb on 6/16/18


Maree and Therese, the 70 week prophecy of Daniel has already been fulfilled. There is no pre-tribulation rapture or 7 year tribulation in Dan 9.

70 x 70 = 490 years. God gave Daniel's people 490 years to accomplish what He asked of them in Daniel 9:24. They did not complete His requirements. Jesus, the Messiah arrived after the 490 years were up and He was rejected by Daniel's people. Dan 9:25. He, the Messiah, Jesus was cut off when He was crucified in the middle of His ministry. Dan 9:26.

The prince who came after Jesus in 70 AD destroyed the temple in Jerusalem causing the sacrifice to cease. Dan 9:26-27.
---barb on 6/16/18


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bothered with christianet for quite a long time. More comments on the question would be good. Why is it in the bible if we don't need to worry about it.
---Therese on 6/16/18


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StrongAxe, why are you acting as if I disagreement with you?

I was answering Cluny's question.

I didn't understand his question in relations to the blog. I wanted him to continue.

I didn't say it wasn't operational today.

I am aware people are STILL suffering from the first disaster in 1986.

I watched documentaries explaining people with cancers even down to their children today.

How some are trapped today in the area because they can't afford to leave.

Plus many of them have the highest natural sterilizations in Russia.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/16/18


Samuelbb7:

Chernobyl is not still operating.
Reactor 4 melted down in April 1986.
Reactor 2 was taken offline after a fire in Oct. 1991 damaged it beyond repair.
Reactor 1 was decomissioned in Nov. 1996 in a deal between Ukraine and organizations.
Reactor 3 was shut down in Dec. 2000.


Nicole_Lacey:

At the company where I worked in 2000, one technician there was a Russian who had been in the Russian Army. He was with the group that was called in after the meltdown to secure the area, and to keep people and looters out.

The radiation leak from that meltdown left the surrounding area (around 1000 square miles) unsafe for habitation for a long time. Check the Wikipedia article on Chernobyl Exclusion Zone.
---StrongAxe on 6/15/18


\\The plant is still operating. \\

No, it isn't. It had a major meltdown in 1986.

All the population of Chernobyl were evacuated, and most of the houses destroyed.

I just saw a program last night showing how a a new building was erected a safe distance away, and then slid over the immediately built "sarcophagos," as it was called at the time.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/15/18


Yes I remember Chernoble. The plant is still operating. The area is mostly evacuated. But many older people stayed there. Nature is taking over the area and animals are doing well.

There have been no people dying in the U. S. from problems with Nuclear Power plants. Many who are afraid of them base their fears on false information.
Now the pretrib rapture is based on the gap theory in the 70 weeks. A few opposed by Protestants up until the 1900's.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/14/18


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Nicole_Lacey:

After the Chernobyl reactor meltdown, many apocalyptic prophecy buffs were also having meltdowns of their own because the word Wormwood in Revelation is translated as Chernobyl in Ukrainian bibles.
---StrongAxe on 6/14/18


Cluny: does anyone remember the Chernobyl disaster of 1986, and what Chernobyl means?//

I do. It doesn't mean anything to me but man's attempts of handling nuclear materials the wrong way.
---Nicole_Lacey on 6/14/18


While we're discussing apocalypticism, does anyone remember the Chernobyl disaster of 1986, and what Chernobyl means?
---Cluny on 6/13/18


Monk Brendan, you took the words right out of my mouth--or fingers?

If you want to know the final exam questions at the Last Judgement, read Matthew 25.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/11/18


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Okay, let's all take a deep breath. Inhale--Exhale.

I know for a fact that God is not going ask for a completely filled out "70 Week" worksheet from you for you to get into heaven. Don't fixate upon it. Don't worry about it!
---Monk_Brendan on 6/11/18


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